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Cults are not always sinister. Similarly, cult leaders are not always manipulative sociopaths. Sometimes, all they need is one deluded man. August Engelhardt, born with a silver spoon, was many things, and one of them was delusional, something he shared with other cults and their leaders. You might wonder the peculiarities of Engelhardt’s delusion. It is nothing other than the obsessive yet interesting relationship he developed with the fruit with one of the hardest shells. This is a man that decided to give everything up for a life of nudity and a diet consisting of nothing other than coconuts.

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Patrick:

What's up long

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time No talk.

Josh:

Yeah, it's been over a

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year since I've had you guys on,

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on

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this

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podcast.

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You guys have been on Reddit on Wiki together,

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but

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wait,

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John's

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been on here A

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I was going to

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say.

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I meant, I

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meant

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together

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together Got it.

Patrick:

Got it.

Patrick:

The

John:

Let's

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keep the street.

John:

Let's keep the streak alive for

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you, Josh.

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The last episode that we all did together ate all

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filler

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It's

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the streak continues on another

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show.

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and we

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are talking more German stuff today,

John:

Oh my God.

Josh:

but before we dive into it, how does it feel to be back in recording episodes again?

Patrick:

Uh,

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That was rusty.

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it was

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Rusty.

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Definitely.

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Rusty

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not

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have no puns.

Josh:

Oh, no.

John:

You would

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think you would know that is what our show was

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about.

Patrick:

totally forgot,

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but I mean, it was

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good.

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It was fun.

Josh:

Nice.

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that's good.

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Yeah, Yeah.

John:

there

John:

was definitely a lot more improv in that episode.

John:

More than anything.

Josh:

Nice.

Josh:

Well,

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that's

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good.

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Like improv

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the improv

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You guys are

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good improv.

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So

John:

Thank

Josh:

yeah.

Patrick:

try,

John:

we try,

Josh:

before we move on, I have to ask you guys a quick question.

Josh:

How do you guys feel about coconut?

Video:

I,

Patrick:

I don't mind.

Patrick:

I'm actually actually like

Patrick:

coconuts a lot.

John:

I

John:

do love him

John:

as well.

Patrick:

I'm an

Patrick:

island boy.

Josh:

Oh God.

Josh:

We're canceled.

Josh:

Um, to wait

Josh:

to talk on

Josh:

that subject.

Josh:

The reason I ask

Josh:

is because today we are going to

Josh:

be talking about one man, August Engelhard who started the coconut

Josh:

cult.

Patrick:

I guess

Patrick:

I was just

Patrick:

going to ask is there coconuts in Germany.

Josh:

Uh

John:

I think it's a more of a tropical thing.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

he moves.

Patrick:

Got it.

Josh:

No, he doesn't.

Josh:

he doesn't start it

Josh:

in

Josh:

Germany.

Josh:

That would be weird.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Inglehart delusions led him to and obsessive, relationship with the fruit with the hardest shell.

Josh:

this man

Josh:

decided to give,

John:

is

Patrick:

is literally

Patrick:

literally coconuts.

Patrick:

I thought it was

Patrick:

just like, a, I dunno,

John:

Is

John:

there

John:

going to be

John:

some

John:

freaky

John:

shit

John:

involving

Josh:

just, I

Josh:

was

Josh:

literally just about to get into

Josh:

the freaky shit.

Josh:

So this man decides to give up everything for a life of nudity and a diet consisting, nothing other than coconuts

John:

Oh,

Josh:

they're

Josh:

hanging

Patrick:

hanging free, free balling

Josh:

free books.

Josh:

Um,

John:

what I'm not case, right, My gosh.

Patrick:

there you go.

Josh:

I got

Josh:

it.

Josh:

in.

Josh:

You got the pun in.

Josh:

So

Josh:

do you love coconuts that much,

Josh:

Patrick,

Patrick:

No,

Josh:

lose

Josh:

your clothes and eat nothing but coconuts?

Patrick:

that can't be

Patrick:

healthy

Josh:

No.

Video:

Oh,

John:

Right.

Josh:

There's

Josh:

a, yeah, there's probably

Josh:

some some issues

Josh:

with that that we may get into

John:

Hey, coconut

John:

juice is

John:

fire

John:

though.

Patrick:

Yeah.

Patrick:

I was going to say it has a lot

Patrick:

of

Patrick:

electrolytes, right?

John:

Yes.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I think it does.

Josh:

I actually don't like coconut,

Josh:

more

Josh:

of

Josh:

the texture than the flavor,

Josh:

like

Video:

He's

Patrick:

not an island.

Patrick:

Boy.

John:

Is it too spicy for you, Josh?

Josh:

yeah.

Josh:

It's too

Josh:

spicy.

Josh:

No,

Josh:

I just

Josh:

don't like, like the texture of coconut, like when

Josh:

you eat

Josh:

it.

Josh:

it's like the, yeah.

Josh:

I just,

Josh:

I don't

Josh:

know.

Josh:

I'm, I'm

Josh:

a real texture person when it comes to foods.

Josh:

So,

Patrick:

Well, have you

Patrick:

had,

Patrick:

like, what do you call that shit?

Patrick:

Uh, John, like before it becomes the brown.

Patrick:

coconut

Patrick:

Where it still has the, it's not as the green on it, you know,

John:

yay.

John:

I then.

Patrick:

guess

Patrick:

young coconut

John:

That actually.

John:

Yeah.

John:

It's

Patrick:

That's what it's

Patrick:

all right.

John:

called young

Josh:

tasted

Josh:

young coconuts.

Josh:

No.

Patrick:

Oh, well,

John:

Oh yes.

Patrick:

no, but it's a lot

Patrick:

softer.

Patrick:

It's

Patrick:

a lot softer.

John:

You don't like you don't like the white meat.

John:

You don't like that white meat, dosh inside.

Josh:

nah, No, it's

Josh:

not, not for me.

Josh:

And I

Josh:

don't know,

Josh:

like coconut juice is fine.

Josh:

I don't mind it.

Josh:

It's just the

Josh:

actual

Josh:

texture of the food.

Josh:

Yeah,

Patrick:

I get

Patrick:

it.

John:

see it.

Josh:

But,

Josh:

with,

Josh:

with, that setup out of the way, let's dive into August angle hard, and his background.

Josh:

So August Inglehart was born in Nuremberg

Josh:

in 1875 to a wealthy factory

Josh:

owner and specialized, manufacturer of varnish and

Josh:

paints.

Josh:

this led me to believe he may be huffed a bit too

Josh:

much

Josh:

of that

Josh:

before.

Josh:

uh,

Video:

German.

Josh:

yeah.

Josh:

Nuremberg.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

He's from Germany.

John:

Oh

John:

shit.

Josh:

yeah.

John:

Yes.

Josh:

no.

Josh:

Yeah, he is.

Josh:

He is German nut.

Josh:

I wasn't kidding.

Josh:

I said we were going to German to

Josh:

Germany

Josh:

today.

John:

joking.

Josh:

according

Josh:

to several accounts, he had a decent childhood, albeit subsequent complaints of, abuse and self-doubt, which, you know, in 1875, I think abuse was pretty prominent in the households.

Josh:

So nothing out of the ordinary necessarily.

Josh:

angle worked as a pharmacy assistant, before his, early pharmacy apprenticeship, he enrolled at

Josh:

our launcher university to study physics and chemistry.

Josh:

Of course, he

Josh:

completed his studies and landed job as a pharmacist.

Josh:

And soon enough, He became interested in

Josh:

health.

Josh:

He later

Josh:

abandoned pharmacy in 1899 to join young born or the fountain of youth.

Josh:

uh, reformed community in

Josh:

Germans.

Josh:

Harz

Josh:

mountains founded by brothers ate off just, and Rudolph just

Josh:

different,

Josh:

different

Josh:

aid off

Josh:

different

Patrick:

There's

Patrick:

something about

Patrick:

these Adolfs

Patrick:

man.

John:

This

John:

is just coincidental,

John:

man.

Josh:

Always start

Josh:

and shit.

Josh:

This one,

Patrick:

Hey,

Patrick:

note to self

Patrick:

don't name, your kid.

Patrick:

ate off

Josh:

that's

Josh:

a good call, especially nowadays, this was before Adolf Hitler.

Josh:

So, you know, 1899.

Josh:

I don't even think

Josh:

he might not have even been born by.

Josh:

Oh, he might've been

Josh:

born, but, uh, Yeah.

Josh:

So

Josh:

don't,

Josh:

don't, do it now for sure.

Josh:

so the, the fountain of

Josh:

youth, community

Josh:

was,

Josh:

based on a principle of vegetarianism and nudism

John:

Mm.

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his,

Josh:

his his interest

Josh:

in healthy lifestyle could be linked to a group of German writers and philosophers delusioned with Victorian era Europe,

Josh:

such as Gustov check-in Heizer.

Josh:

author of

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bust and broad

John:

That sounds like a porn title.

John:

Oh, busty broad

Josh:

uh,

John:

categories.

John:

I be looking

John:

into

John:

man

Patrick:

page 48,

John:

Can't make up my mind.

John:

Very nice.

Josh:

so, uh, this, uh, Gustaf

Josh:

was also

Josh:

interested in Coco verism, which was developed in

Josh:

the United States.

Josh:

It led

Josh:

him to readily absorb the lessons in nature and natural food

Josh:

sources.

Patrick:

First, I

Patrick:

got, like you said,

Patrick:

voyeurism,

John:

That's what I was.

John:

I was like,

Patrick:

called a cup of water.

Patrick:

Okay.

John:

I was thinking, watching someone,

Josh:

No, no, no, it

Josh:

doesn't.

Josh:

It

Josh:

doesn't get

Josh:

that.

Josh:

weird.

John:

if Josh looks back on the video.

John:

He's going to see us, bro.

John:

We were like, yo, is he watching someone?

John:

Fuck a go.

Josh:

Not

John:

he fucking a coconut?

John:

Ron?

John:

He's just watching.

Josh:

it's a

Josh:

Wilson situation.

Patrick:

yeah, exactly.

John:

God.

Patrick:

he said Coco voyeurism.

Patrick:

I was like,

Patrick:

what

John:

It's the same way,

Josh:

Coco voyeurism.

Josh:

I, I guess,

Josh:

yeah.

Patrick:

know why.

Video:

oh

John:

Holy shit.

Josh:

oh God.

Josh:

so these intellectuals founded the movement on the premise that man should live closer to nature,

Josh:

eat strict vegetarian diets

Josh:

and refrain from tobacco and alcohol.

Josh:

So I mean, pretty good

Josh:

principles.

Josh:

You know, like if you cut a little bit, some, some meat out of your diet eat more vegetables.

Josh:

You'll

Josh:

probably

Josh:

live a healthier

Josh:

life, especially if you don't smoke and

Josh:

drink alcohol that

Josh:

might help,

Josh:

upon interacting with early,

Josh:

frugivores

Josh:

proponents of fruit only diets.

Josh:

He pushed their beliefs even further affirming that the world's population could survive on nothing, but the

Josh:

coconut,

Josh:

a food source,

Josh:

he filled with divine attributes since I grew closer to the sun than any

Josh:

other fruit,

Josh:

which

Josh:

I don't know if that's true,

Josh:

Like

John:

They're pretty tall trees,

John:

though.

Josh:

I guess

Josh:

That's

Josh:

true.

John:

oh,

Patrick:

think banana trees are pretty short.

Patrick:

I think at least the ones

Patrick:

I've seen.

Patrick:

in the Philippines.

Patrick:

I don't know,

Josh:

You might be

Josh:

onto something.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

The coconut might be

Josh:

the tallest tree

Josh:

that

John:

I was going to bring a Philippines too,

John:

because actually one of the

John:

strongest liquor in the Philippines is actually coconut.

John:

is coconut

John:

liquor, right.

John:

Lumbar

John:

nug,

Patrick:

Already called that shit.

Patrick:

Yeah, I guess.

Patrick:

coconut.

Patrick:

Yeah.

Patrick:

Coconut

John:

That's like pure buck in

John:

death.

John:

it's worse than

Josh:

90 9%.

Patrick:

Yeah, and

Patrick:

I It's probably like 90, 90%

Josh:

Holy shit.

John:

bad.

Patrick:

can see the vapors coming off of it.

Patrick:

Let's just say that.

John:

That's how

John:

crazy

John:

it

Josh:

You

Josh:

sniff

Josh:

it and you get drunk.

Patrick:

probably.

Josh:

Oh

John:

Lip.

John:

I was,

John:

I was going to comment about this to Josh.

John:

Like I think this was on your Scientology episode.

John:

You did mention that a lot of the cult

John:

leaders have something to do

John:

with,

John:

or

John:

a lot of them has a scientific background.

John:

Like you said,

John:

he was a

Video:

chemist.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I wouldn't say like, there are some for sure that

Josh:

have it.

Josh:

I think it's either one or the other.

Josh:

They're either very smart people or they're

Josh:

very dumb

Josh:

people.

John:

Ah, There's

John:

nothing

John:

in

Patrick:

in between

Josh:

well,

Josh:

the Antell guy was

Josh:

an idiot.

Josh:

He

John:

fit both criteria

John:

is holy fuck.

Josh:

And

Josh:

you're starting a

Josh:

call.

Josh:

Tell

Josh:

God

Patrick:

the ultimate Colt.

John:

Yes.

Josh:

dummies,

John:

Colton almost spin off the ultimate network,

Josh:

the

Josh:

voyeurism.

Video:

Whoa.

Josh:

though

Josh:

it's

Josh:

unknown.

Josh:

What

Josh:

prompted him to go so far with his ideas?

Josh:

He felt the fruit might provide more than just sustenance.

Josh:

He believed

Josh:

it could provide eternal life.

Josh:

Inglehart wrote that naked, Coco,

Josh:

Coco.

Josh:

Verism not going to

Josh:

say it

Josh:

wrong now

Josh:

every time,

Josh:

uh,

Josh:

uh, is God's will and pure coconut diet makes man a mortal and

Josh:

United with

Josh:

God.

Josh:

So quite a, quite a

Josh:

claim.

Josh:

Inglehart believed that if we all dedicated our lives to coconuts and sunlight, The trappings

Josh:

of civilization, clothing, cities, power structures would

Josh:

be

Josh:

erratic.

Josh:

and Mann would live in warrantless, tranquility

Josh:

forever.

Josh:

Inglehart observed that with its physical shape and furry shell, the coconut is

Josh:

the fruit that most

Josh:

closely

Josh:

resembles the human head

Josh:

as a result.

Josh:

It is

Josh:

the best fruit

Josh:

for human consumption.

Josh:

So he might have had some cannibalism

Patrick:

Yeah.

Patrick:

right.

Josh:

Why

Josh:

would you

Josh:

look at

Josh:

something and say, that looks like a human

Josh:

head.

Josh:

I

Josh:

know I

Josh:

won't eat that.

Patrick:

I

Patrick:

want to live off of that.

Video:

I

Josh:

I won't

Josh:

eat

Josh:

nothing

Josh:

but that

Josh:

because it looks

Josh:

like humans.

Josh:

add,

Josh:

to him, coconuts are vegetable

Josh:

human heads

Josh:

and are the only

Josh:

proper human nourishment.

Josh:

We can expect God to make our food in the shape of our heads, Ingle hearts.

John:

Very sus

Josh:

yeah, he's a

Josh:

wild dude.

Josh:

through a

Josh:

gospel titled at carefree future, he preached that this belief publicly in places like.

Josh:

Nuremberg

Josh:

and other

Josh:

big cities in Germany, but it was received with a show of ridicule.

Josh:

this is Hitler

Josh:

all over again.

Patrick:

Yeah.

Patrick:

And what was the, what was the, um, instrument

Video:

that

John:

Viola.

Josh:

That's what

John:

and fucking August?

Patrick:

Oh yeah, I guess it was really good at the Viola.

Josh:

if you've take one

Josh:

thing away from my show, it's a

Josh:

white males from Germany

Josh:

are

Josh:

Very uh, fragile,

Josh:

Don't

Video:

secure.

John:

Exactly.

Josh:

don't criticize them too

Josh:

harshly.

Josh:

or

Josh:

It's taught.

Josh:

It's not good.

John:

They

John:

might rise

John:

to power

John:

and get naked.

Josh:

Or get

Josh:

naked.

Josh:

It's one or

Josh:

the

Josh:

other

Video:

again,

Patrick:

extremes, no in-betweens.

John:

no

John:

Invisiline.

John:

Exactly.

Josh:

So he was hounded out and publicly mocked for

Josh:

his odd

Josh:

views and insane notions.

Josh:

Unfortunately, the

Josh:

young born was

Josh:

eventually disbanded due to legal issues stemming from the practice of nudism, which was deemed unlawful

Josh:

and unethical.

Josh:

Adolf just

Josh:

was in prison for after being convicted of elicit naturopathic practices.

Josh:

He

Josh:

had

Josh:

a large

Josh:

beard and didn't

Josh:

wear

Josh:

a lot of clothing.

Josh:

Both

Josh:

characteristics presented him as a

Josh:

hippie and an ultra

Josh:

stodgy

Josh:

European culture.

Josh:

The, These experiences are

Josh:

believed to have driven Inglehart to a location free of European restraints and norms, where he might fulfill his ideals about natural life.

Josh:

Inglehart was a member of the Monte

Josh:

virtue

Josh:

movement

Josh:

as well.

Patrick:

Yeah, I like it.

Patrick:

All I can picture is with a beard, like his beard is long enough to like

Josh:

cover

Josh:

it.

Patrick:

come in the front.

Josh:

that'd be

Josh:

bad

Josh:

ass.

Patrick:

actually.

Patrick:

Yeah.

Patrick:

He's like, I'm not nude.

Josh:

yeah.

Josh:

He's like,

Josh:

I'm covered where I need to be.

John:

I

John:

can

John:

I can definitely see, a fan art making this.

John:

I dunno if

John:

you know your paintings,

John:

like the Primavera where her hair

John:

was

John:

like super long And

John:

instead of a shell, it's a coconut

John:

of this dude.

Josh:

it's

Josh:

so long.

Josh:

It's

Josh:

so

Josh:

long.

Josh:

it goes

Josh:

underneath his

Josh:

legs

Josh:

back around, and

Patrick:

It's a banana

Josh:

it.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

he

Josh:

makes a

Josh:

ponytail

Josh:

covers

Josh:

both sides.

John:

Isn't

John:

Germany cold as fuck sometimes.

John:

And this dude started a nudist kind of calling

John:

me

Josh:

Uh, Germany's not too bad.

Josh:

Like

Josh:

they're,

Josh:

it's a,

Josh:

it's a fairly warm,

Josh:

uh, climate.

Josh:

I mean, if you go north,

Josh:

I'm sure it's

Josh:

a little

Josh:

colder, but.

Josh:

Yeah, I don't

Josh:

know.

Josh:

Do You want me to look up the

Josh:

average

Josh:

temperature

Josh:

of Germany in

Josh:

the

Josh:

winter

John:

I mean,

John:

just curious, like

John:

I

Patrick:

negative 30 degrees

Josh:

and

Josh:

the

John:

degrees in

John:

a pool is

John:

enough for shrinkage.

John:

Just saying

Josh:

Uh,

Josh:

1.8 degrees

Josh:

Celsius.

John:

What

John:

the

John:

fuck is that?

John:

It's

John:

say it in

Josh:

one

Video:

point

Patrick:

It's like

Patrick:

35

Patrick:

degrees.

Josh:

Fahrenheit,

Josh:

I think.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

You're actually

Josh:

banging on that

Josh:

is 35.2, four

Josh:

degrees

John:

That's that?

John:

You

John:

said,

John:

that's that's the

Patrick:

that class, bro, I went to that class

Video:

that's

Josh:

to that.

Josh:

Cause

Josh:

that's the average in, in winter.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

That's not

Josh:

too bad.

John:

That's cool as shit.

Patrick:

He's from Canada,

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Ken is below zero.

Josh:

So

Patrick:

We're

Patrick:

from San Diego.

Josh:

It's

Josh:

in the

Josh:

middle,

Josh:

you know,

Josh:

it's

Josh:

not

Patrick:

We're 50 is freezing.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Maybe

Josh:

they

Josh:

put on clothes

Josh:

during

Josh:

the winter.

Josh:

You

Josh:

never know.

Video:

Then

John:

breaking

John:

the law.

John:

of there, their little

John:

Colt

Josh:

That's true.

Patrick:

Hey Josh, is there, uh, like nude beaches in Canada?

Patrick:

I dunno.

Josh:

There is

Josh:

actually,

Josh:

there was

Josh:

one in my

Josh:

hometown, that

Josh:

I think

Josh:

got shut

Josh:

down because

Josh:

the

Josh:

guy ran.

Josh:

It

Josh:

was crazy.

Patrick:

guy that ran, it was crazy

Josh:

yeah,

Josh:

He

Josh:

was nuts.

Josh:

Uh, he drove like a, a tractor or

Josh:

something

Josh:

at police

Josh:

cars.

Josh:

I don't know.

Josh:

It was

Josh:

it

Josh:

was a whole story.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

He

Josh:

was nuts

John:

showing it to them.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Showing

Josh:

them, showing them

Josh:

something.

Patrick:

Hey John, have you have you been uh, the

Patrick:

bike beach out here.

Patrick:

I've never

Patrick:

been,

John:

I've passed by it, but I've

John:

never liked actually been

Patrick:

okay.

Patrick:

I

Patrick:

heard it was just a bunch of old guys,

Josh:

John's

Josh:

just like I

Josh:

have

Josh:

binoculars

Josh:

that I,

Josh:

I

John:

I

Patrick:

I

Patrick:

don't go in it.

Patrick:

I just look,

Josh:

yeah, I just, I just observe.

John:

I want to say,

John:

when I went to Amalfi coast in Italy, I want to say I did see some naked people

John:

go there,

John:

which

John:

is what I was

John:

like.

John:

this is very weird.

John:

There's

John:

children.

John:

around

Josh:

Yeah, that's

Josh:

a different culture

Josh:

over there.

Josh:

There, they

Josh:

definitely have more nude beaches,

Josh:

in

Josh:

France, for

Josh:

sure.

Josh:

I

Josh:

don't know about

Patrick:

and

Patrick:

I didn't like shaving.

Patrick:

Right.

Patrick:

Am I, am I making

Josh:

Uh, yeah, I think

Josh:

some European

Josh:

cultures.

Josh:

Yeah, they don't, they don't shave

Josh:

as much

Josh:

the

Josh:

women

Josh:

anyway,

John:

shout out.

John:

Manscape what's

John:

up?

Patrick:

a sponsor, the

Josh:

yet.

Patrick:

sponsor,

Patrick:

the sponsor, the whole country, please.

John:

Yes,

Video:

it's

Josh:

The country

Josh:

Germany

Josh:

sponsored

Josh:

by

Josh:

manscaped.

Patrick:

brought to you by Medscape

John:

Use promo code

Patrick:

9 9, 9.

Patrick:

Oh no, no, no,

Patrick:

no.

Video:

9,

John:

9%.

Josh:

Oh,

Patrick:

Jeremy

John:

Yeah.

Patrick:

us.

John:

And it's okay.

John:

It's not

John:

our show,

Josh:

It's not.

Josh:

Yeah,

Josh:

it's

Josh:

all good.

Josh:

it's

Josh:

all good.

Josh:

We're moving.

Josh:

We're moving from Germany though.

Josh:

Cause uh,

Josh:

in 1902

Josh:

August set off from Germany with a bag full of books and an

Josh:

unusual mission

John:

Did you come

John:

August.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

His

Josh:

name's August.

John:

Oh, Isn't that the

John:

guy named from Hitler to

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

It was

Josh:

his buddy.

Josh:

Oh shit.

Patrick:

Yeah,

Patrick:

John, there's only three names in Germany.

Patrick:

That's why

John:

Adolf August?

John:

What

John:

else?

Josh:

Those

Josh:

are the

Josh:

only

Josh:

ones.

Josh:

Yeah.

John:

Oh shit.

Josh:

Oh God.

Josh:

yeah,

Josh:

I didn't make that

Josh:

connection, but

Josh:

damn,

Josh:

if you

Josh:

have

Josh:

listened

Josh:

to our

Josh:

Hitler

Josh:

episode,

Josh:

there was

Josh:

a lot

Josh:

of connections to it.

Josh:

I did not realize

John:

That's his friend,

Josh:

it's.

Josh:

Yeah, it's

Josh:

just

Josh:

foreshadowing for what

Josh:

to go.

John:

as

John:

long as

John:

he uses long

John:

as pubes and beard as the Viola now,

Josh:

oh

Patrick:

uh,

Josh:

Good.

Josh:

So, his new, he

Josh:

was set off on his

Josh:

new mission to construct a

Josh:

new edit Nick, ordered on

Josh:

the sun drenched coast

Josh:

of Papa

Josh:

new Guinea.

Josh:

He believed paradise existed somewhere around

Josh:

the

Josh:

equator.

Josh:

And

Josh:

the

Josh:

way to

Josh:

happiness

Josh:

was simple.

Josh:

Abandoned your world.

Josh:

Belongings traveled to

Josh:

a tropical

Josh:

island, become a nudist and

Josh:

eat

Josh:

only coconuts.

Patrick:

Hey,

Patrick:

sounds like plan to me.

Josh:

That's what

Josh:

I always say.

Patrick:

Yeah, Exactly.

Josh:

so

Josh:

in July, 1902 from the enormous fortune

Josh:

inherited the 24 year old Engelhart embarked on a voyage via

Josh:

the mail steamer,

Josh:

empire

Josh:

come

Josh:

September of the same

Josh:

year.

Josh:

He arrived at German new Guinea.

Josh:

In

Josh:

the

Josh:

Western

Josh:

Pacific with his hopes of curating the ideal circumstances for conducting coconut eating and tropical living experiments, he purchased a 75 Hector coconut and

Josh:

banana

Josh:

plantation

Josh:

on the

Josh:

coral island

Josh:

of

Josh:

kickoff

Josh:

con an island in

Josh:

new Guinea

Josh:

KubeCon

John:

That sounds like

John:

the next sounds like the next COVID variant

Josh:

now introducing

Josh:

Kaaba con

Josh:

more infectious, more deadly.

Josh:

Uh,

John:

It's good to have

Patrick:

Contracted

Patrick:

by eating.

Patrick:

Aw, man.

John:

go nuts.

Patrick:

Beat me to it.

John:

I

John:

was thinking,

John:

it

Josh:

oh

Josh:

God.

Josh:

So he

Josh:

has

Josh:

bananas on

Josh:

his plan

Josh:

too,

Josh:

but I

Josh:

imagine he

Josh:

just

Josh:

cut them

Josh:

down and

Josh:

put

Josh:

more coconut

Josh:

trees.

Josh:

It's

Josh:

like, we

Josh:

don't

Josh:

eat

Josh:

fucking bananas.

Josh:

so as the

Josh:

sole

Josh:

white guy,

Josh:

among 40 Malaysians, he erected a three-bedroom cottage on

Josh:

KubeCon

Josh:

and

Josh:

began

Josh:

practicing

Josh:

his ideals

Josh:

of

Josh:

living

Josh:

close to nature.

Josh:

He stopped wearing clothes and live solely on a vegetarian diet consisted primarily of coconuts.

Josh:

So he probably

Josh:

still indulged in

Josh:

bananas,

Josh:

you

Josh:

know?

Patrick:

Okay.

Josh:

so

Patrick:

Two Coke, two coconuts and one banana.

Patrick:

I don't know.

Patrick:

That's a well rounded, well rounded

John:

Yeah.

John:

Well rounded meal.

John:

Yeah, something,

Josh:

them

Josh:

up.

Josh:

A coconut

Josh:

banana

Josh:

coconut.

Josh:

on his plate.

Patrick:

It has to be in that order.

Patrick:

you

Josh:

This

Josh:

is all, I

Josh:

need.

John:

something

John:

about the

John:

word erected and a nudist colony.

John:

Just doesn't sit

John:

well with

John:

me

Video:

coconuts and

Patrick:

bananas

John:

and coconuts and bananas.

John:

Yes.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

There's a

Josh:

lot

Josh:

of

Josh:

innuendos in this

Josh:

script.

Josh:

Uh,

Josh:

so he

Josh:

constructed

Josh:

a

Josh:

philosophy based on

Josh:

the belief

Josh:

that the sun is the fundamental

Josh:

source of

Josh:

all life.

Josh:

And that because of the coconut is this fruit that glows grows closest to the light.

Josh:

It

Josh:

must be the best diet

Josh:

for humans.

Josh:

This viewpoint is known as

Josh:

Coco verism,

Josh:

which we

Josh:

talked about

Josh:

Culminated

Josh:

Inglehart his claims that

Josh:

persistent intake

Josh:

of coconut leads to

Josh:

mortality.

Josh:

Inglehart also traded coconuts, dried

Josh:

coconuts, and coconut

Josh:

oil

Josh:

for a living.

Josh:

he chose a coconut

Josh:

mano diet after

Josh:

suffering from an ulcer on his right leg, blaming tropical fruits for his ailment.

Josh:

So he

Josh:

blamed the banana.

John:

fucking bananas.

Patrick:

That's for me,

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

All I

Josh:

need

Josh:

is nuts.

Josh:

Uh,

Josh:

as

Josh:

social beings, men

Josh:

are always in need

Josh:

of humans

Josh:

for companionship.

Josh:

And Inglehart, wasn't

Josh:

an

Josh:

exception in

Josh:

this regard,

Josh:

despite migrating with about

Josh:

1200 books,

Josh:

he urged,

Josh:

to create a community

Josh:

of similar

Josh:

minds and

Josh:

practices.

Josh:

Inglehart

Josh:

curated a cult out of his fledgling movement

Josh:

called, Sada, Nord and or

Josh:

order of the son started Orrin Norton.

Josh:

We'll go with that.

Josh:

I meant

Josh:

to

Josh:

look up

Josh:

how to pronounce it

Josh:

and

Josh:

I never actually did.

Josh:

So

Patrick:

So

Patrick:

send a noted.

Josh:

send

Josh:

a

Josh:

note and

Josh:

yeah, We're

Josh:

going

Josh:

to go with the order, the

Josh:

sun.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

It's much

Josh:

easier or core Coco

Josh:

verism.

Josh:

his brand new

Josh:

religion was

Josh:

based on

Josh:

sun worship, not just

Josh:

the sun,

Josh:

but also the sun's earthly

Josh:

representation,

Josh:

which he

Josh:

instantly

Josh:

recognized as the humble

Josh:

coconut,

Josh:

they

Josh:

were

Josh:

the same thing and

Josh:

indivisible

Josh:

in Einhard's thinking,

Josh:

according to NPR, Iglehart

Josh:

co-wrote a book called a carefree future, the new gospel

Josh:

in 1898

Josh:

to gain

Josh:

adherence

Josh:

together with his coauthor

Josh:

August Beth

Josh:

men.

Josh:

So

Josh:

there was two

Josh:

August,

Josh:

right in

Josh:

that book.

John:

God.

Josh:

Patrick

Josh:

is right.

Patrick:

I'll tell you.

Patrick:

There's

Patrick:

only three names in Germany.

Patrick:

bro.

Josh:

Oh God.

Josh:

He began producing advertising to be printed and distributed across Germany to

Josh:

spread the news

Josh:

about,

Josh:

order

Josh:

of the

Josh:

sun, which promised ideal health and delightful

Josh:

tropical

Josh:

island

Josh:

living.

Josh:

angled hard urge people who wish to be part of his movement to relocate and dwell with him

Josh:

on

Josh:

the island.

Josh:

The

Josh:

cult's mode of operation was simple yet hard to understand

Josh:

and even

Josh:

more difficult

Josh:

to adhere to.

Josh:

ankle hurts.

Josh:

Our

Josh:

entire goal

Josh:

was for people to return to the

Josh:

natural

Josh:

way of

Josh:

doing things that

Josh:

existed when

Josh:

humans first lived in

Josh:

the

Josh:

garden

Josh:

of Eden.

Josh:

where you couldn't

Josh:

eat an apple.

Josh:

God

Josh:

it

John:

But you

John:

can have

John:

coconut.

Patrick:

They

Patrick:

never said anything about a coconut.

Josh:

The snake

Josh:

never said

Josh:

anything about the coconut.

Josh:

the restrictions were that you had to be

Josh:

naked and

Josh:

eat only coconuts.

Patrick:

I

Patrick:

have two simple rules.

Josh:

I got

Josh:

two rules

Josh:

for you guys.

Josh:

Be naked.

Josh:

Eat these nuts

John:

While

John:

I watch

Josh:

while I watch,

Josh:

oh

Josh:

God.

Josh:

Oh.

Josh:

So

Josh:

the reason,

Josh:

the reason

Josh:

they were

Josh:

naked,

Josh:

they had to be naked is because the sun

Josh:

was

Josh:

supposed to heal individuals of any ailments.

Josh:

Their

Josh:

bodies might be

Josh:

suffering

Josh:

from

Josh:

which

Josh:

there is some

Josh:

truth to this.

Josh:

Like, uh, you know, vitamin D

Josh:

that's what you get from the sun, right.

Josh:

It's supposed to help heal

Josh:

cuts, and

Josh:

like you're supposed to heal faster once

Josh:

when you get

Josh:

received

Josh:

more of it,

Patrick:

totally from a certain time.

Patrick:

Right?

John:

you

John:

can't be

Patrick:

sun.

Patrick:

I thought it was the morning sun only.

Josh:

Hm.

John:

You can't

John:

be standing in the middle of the

John:

sun, like

John:

an at

John:

noon.

John:

Cause That's

John:

like super

John:

friggin.

John:

Yeah.

Josh:

What have you

Josh:

live

Josh:

in Canada

Josh:

and the sun?

Josh:

It's just,

Josh:

it's

Josh:

just always dreary

Josh:

in the winter.

Patrick:

You

Patrick:

get the, you get, whatever you can get.

Josh:

I get a cut in December.

Josh:

It doesn't heal until June.

John:

This will get

John:

this.

John:

This is what has to get sunny delight.

Josh:

I

John:

just to heal up.

Patrick:

is always constantly D

Josh:

I would

Josh:

imagine,

Josh:

so.

Josh:

Yeah.

John:

Oh, because he gives

John:

vitamin D

John:

you know damn well that shit don't got no vitamins in that

Patrick:

I'll show her

John:

Shit's all

John:

sugar,

Josh:

It's yeah.

Josh:

It's

Josh:

sugar,

Josh:

a vitamin.

Josh:

I don't know.

Patrick:

vitamin

John:

vitamin

John:

water

John:

says they're a vitamin water but they're getting

Josh:

yet.

John:

for,

Patrick:

are

Patrick:

they really?

Josh:

Yeah.

John:

I think so like

John:

they're

John:

getting in trouble

Patrick:

because there's no vitamins in it.

John:

there's

John:

none.

Josh:

They

Patrick:

No, shut up,

John:

Yeah.

John:

dude.

John:

I used

John:

to drink

John:

that shit

John:

all the

John:

time.

Patrick:

recover, recover, recover flavor.

Patrick:

I'm like, okay, this is going to help me

John:

I'm like damn.

John:

I'm drinking pomegranate with the triple

John:

X.

John:

I'm

John:

like, oh, I'm so healthy.

John:

And that's

John:

I?

John:

Yeah.

John:

I'm like,

John:

fuck

John:

I feel bamboozled.

John:

like

Patrick:

I want to make a claim.

Patrick:

Hold

Josh:

That's

John:

Joined in

John:

that

Josh:

yeah, I get

Josh:

$20

Josh:

back

Josh:

or something

Patrick:

They send you, they send you a lifetime supply.

Patrick:

of

Patrick:

vitamin

Video:

Oh

Josh:

fuck.

Josh:

I don't know how we

Josh:

got

Josh:

there, but

Josh:

sunny

Josh:

D

Josh:

the sun gives

Josh:

you that.

Josh:

So I

Patrick:

no vitamins.

John:

No vitamins.

John:

Yes.

Josh:

so aside from the coconut members of the sect were not permitted to consume any other

Josh:

meals or

Josh:

fruits.

Josh:

In addition, Inglehart felt that marriage

Josh:

should be abolished

Josh:

and that people

Josh:

should abandoned their

Josh:

towns, cities, and garments

Josh:

to return to

Josh:

nature.

Josh:

I

Josh:

don't know

Josh:

why

Josh:

marriage

Josh:

had to be

Josh:

abolished,

Josh:

but

Patrick:

Yeah.

Patrick:

What was.

Josh:

honestly

Josh:

like that is what every fucking caught leader does.

Josh:

As soon

Josh:

as they

Josh:

get in

Josh:

charge.

Josh:

They're

Josh:

like,

Josh:

I don't

Josh:

want you

Josh:

guys married.

Josh:

Like,

Josh:

I don't understand.

Josh:

They just it's like a

Josh:

control

Josh:

thing.

Josh:

maybe

Josh:

I don't know.

Josh:

Or

Josh:

you're

Patrick:

they're

Patrick:

trying to, you know, they're trying to,

Patrick:

he's

Patrick:

trying to get with all the women

Josh:

no.

Josh:

no.

Josh:

He's like,

Josh:

you

Josh:

can

Josh:

cut a

Josh:

hole

Josh:

in

Josh:

the

Josh:

coconut And

Josh:

that

Josh:

works

Josh:

since.

John:

Make

John:

sure it's a mature coconut,

John:

not the

John:

young

John:

one.

Josh:

You

Patrick:

like

Patrick:

ladies.

Patrick:

We have plenty of bananas too.

Patrick:

We're done with the bananas.

John:

Get

John:

all

John:

the much

John:

from

John:

there.

Josh:

Oh

Josh:

fuck.

Josh:

so yeah,

Josh:

it is just a weird thing.

Josh:

They

Josh:

call it leaders seem to

Josh:

focus

Josh:

on

Josh:

his marriage.

Josh:

I

Josh:

don't,

Josh:

it is

Josh:

probably to

Josh:

get with

Josh:

the women

Josh:

you're

Josh:

probably

Josh:

right.

Josh:

Or just a power thing

Josh:

to

Josh:

be like,

Josh:

they'll

Patrick:

maybe it's to show.

Patrick:

yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Patrick:

Maybe to show how committed they are.

Patrick:

to,

Josh:

Yeah, you're,

Josh:

if

Josh:

you're, if you're willing to leave the person you love the most,

Josh:

for me, that's

Josh:

the highest form

Josh:

of,

Josh:

I don't know, devotion, I guess.

Patrick:

Yeah.

Josh:

makes

John:

You

John:

should,

John:

You should

John:

only be

John:

married to the cause

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

And

Josh:

coconuts.

John:

and

Patrick:

I mean coconuts.

Josh:

So, So,

Josh:

going

Josh:

on this,

Josh:

This, might flesh out the, uh, the theory a

Josh:

bit

Josh:

more.

Josh:

So, they should

Josh:

also dwell in the

Josh:

tropics without

Josh:

women

Josh:

who

Josh:

damaged the garden of

Josh:

Eden, but

Josh:

would not be able

Josh:

to ruin angle

Josh:

hearts paradise,

Josh:

and

Josh:

eat

Josh:

only

Josh:

coconuts.

Josh:

So,

Josh:

you

Josh:

know, he

Josh:

might've just

Josh:

been

Josh:

gay, which

Josh:

is

Josh:

fine.

Josh:

He just

Josh:

might've been, I

Josh:

cannot, you know,

Josh:

that or he, yeah, I don't know.

Josh:

Maybe he just hated

Josh:

women.

Josh:

I

Josh:

have

Josh:

no

Josh:

idea.

Josh:

He

Josh:

was

Josh:

either

Josh:

misogynist or

Josh:

gay.

Josh:

I don't,

Josh:

I don't know,

Josh:

back in

Josh:

the day,

John:

yeah,

Josh:

other

Josh:

August.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

that's

Josh:

the

Josh:

woman's name

Josh:

too.

Josh:

Her name is,

Josh:

also guess

John:

good stuff.

Josh:

a goose.

John:

Very nice.

Josh:

so

Josh:

he also forced

Josh:

them

Josh:

to pray to the sun.

Josh:

Inglehart felt that if people devoted themselves to doing

Josh:

so, they would be

Josh:

spared from sickness and

Josh:

disease.

Josh:

his efforts

Josh:

won international attention

Josh:

and covered by an article in the New York times in

Josh:

1905,

Josh:

He

Josh:

planned to

Josh:

have a

Josh:

sect or the sun, the New York times reported.

Josh:

he held that man

Josh:

was

Josh:

a tropical animal, not intended to live in caves called houses, but to wander

Josh:

as

Josh:

Adam did with the sun beating

Josh:

upon him

Josh:

all

Josh:

day

Josh:

and the dues

Josh:

of heavens for

Josh:

a mantle

Josh:

at night, Living such a

Josh:

life, he believed that healing

Josh:

and curative

Josh:

powers of the sunlight would in time render

Josh:

a man.

Josh:

So immune to

Josh:

sickness

Josh:

that sickness

Josh:

could be overcome,

Josh:

end quote.

John:

didn't they say that shit about?

John:

COVID like, if

John:

you

John:

stay outside,

John:

you feel

Josh:

That's

Josh:

what Joe

Josh:

Rogan said.

John:

there you

John:

go.

Josh:

and maybe I'll do

Josh:

that called someday.

John:

you

Josh:

I wonder

Josh:

if I have

Josh:

Joe

Josh:

Rogan

Josh:

fans listening

Josh:

to

Josh:

me.

Josh:

If

Josh:

you listen

Josh:

to Joe Rogan,

Josh:

let me

Josh:

know.

John:

because I want to make fun

John:

of you.

Josh:

I mean, no, Hey,

Josh:

like,

Josh:

he is

Josh:

like

Josh:

the most

Josh:

popular

Josh:

podcast

Josh:

or so like,

Josh:

there

Josh:

are a lot of people that listen to them,

Josh:

but

Josh:

I

Josh:

just want to know,

Josh:

you

Josh:

know,

Josh:

get

Josh:

some quotes so I can use it for my Joe Rogan

Josh:

cult episode,

Josh:

the Brogan cult.

Josh:

And

Josh:

we'll call it.

Josh:

so August considered coconuts, the finest things

Josh:

since sliced

Josh:

bread, Which

Josh:

might've been

Josh:

just invented

Josh:

back then.

Josh:

According

Josh:

to how stuff works.

Josh:

The bread

Josh:

used in

Josh:

Catholic communions is considered to become the body of Christ through a process known as transubstantiation.

Josh:

there's a

Josh:

lot of

Josh:

teas

Josh:

in

Josh:

there.

Josh:

We know what that?

John:

that

John:

bread hits though.

Patrick:

That

John:

the

John:

bread tastes

John:

good.

John:

yet.

John:

The

John:

Bread tastes good.

Josh:

Oh, God.

Patrick:

into church after a night of drinking

Josh:

you're

Josh:

like,

Josh:

I

Josh:

need those

Josh:

carbs.

Video:

No, no.

Video:

You're parched.

Video:

Yo,

Patrick:

actually get stuck to the

Patrick:

roof

Patrick:

of your mouth.

Patrick:

Let

Patrick:

me get some wine, please.

Josh:

I've

Josh:

never

Josh:

tried it.

Josh:

What does it taste like?

Josh:

Is it just

Josh:

like

Josh:

cracker

Josh:

or

Josh:

is

Josh:

it

John:

It's like a

John:

thin

John:

crack.

John:

like a It's like,

Patrick:

want it.

Josh:

a Creek.

Josh:

It's a

Josh:

crepe.

Patrick:

holy shit.

Patrick:

It's kind of like,

Patrick:

a crepe.

Patrick:

It

John:

Yeah.

John:

it's

John:

pretty.

Patrick:

like

Patrick:

a dried out.

Patrick:

crape.

John:

Yeah.

John:

I Like

John:

consistency

John:

of a crepe.

Josh:

You're

Josh:

like,

Josh:

please father, put

Josh:

some syrup

Josh:

on

Josh:

that bitch.

Video:

That's

John:

pretty

John:

much,

Patrick:

the wine is for.

John:

Yeah.

Josh:

Oh,

Josh:

true.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Washes it down.

John:

The body of Christ is

John:

busing, baby.

John:

Let's go.

Patrick:

Hey that era before.

Patrick:

COVID you imagine that we, the whole church chaired that one cup.

John:

Yeah.

Josh:

fuck.

Josh:

Really?

John:

I'm

John:

surprised.

John:

No one came back and were

John:

like, I'm surprised No one had siblings and shit back.

Josh:

They

Josh:

probably

Josh:

did

Josh:

spread that

Josh:

way.

Josh:

People ton

Josh:

of People

Josh:

had syphilis.

Josh:

I don't know if

Josh:

you

Josh:

knew this.

Josh:

That's

Josh:

why they wore

Josh:

those

Josh:

fucking

Josh:

white

Patrick:

Yeah, the whole

Patrick:

church heard That one code, bro.

Patrick:

That's fucking insane.

Josh:

and

John:

mean, he just did a

John:

little

John:

wipe.

John:

Yeah, yeah.

John:

with a little altar boy, just like wiping

John:

it a

John:

little bit down.

Video:

Mix.

Josh:

Next.

Josh:

It

Josh:

doesn't

Josh:

even

Josh:

change

Josh:

the cloth.

Josh:

It's

Patrick:

No, it was the same one from last week

John:

Yeah,

Josh:

We

Josh:

were wild

Josh:

and out

Josh:

before COVID

Josh:

Jesus.

Patrick:

saying,

Patrick:

Oh,

Josh:

oh God.

Josh:

Oh, well.

Josh:

so

Josh:

similarly to, uh,

Josh:

the,

Josh:

the cry

Josh:

or wafers

Josh:

that, uh,

Josh:

the communion

Josh:

wafers.

Josh:

That's

Josh:

what

Josh:

they're called,

Josh:

uh,

Josh:

the crepes,

Josh:

the communion

John:

Jesus,

John:

cripes.

Josh:

So Jesus

Josh:

Christ.

Josh:

So

Josh:

Inglehart

Josh:

thought coconuts possess,

Josh:

Christ's flesh through a process

Josh:

known

Josh:

as tropical Tran subs.

Josh:

Tentation

Josh:

according

Josh:

to

Josh:

Atlas.

Josh:

Obscura.

Patrick:

just put tropical in front of it.

Patrick:

Like, Yeah.

Josh:

He just

Patrick:

this is what I was going to work.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

if

Josh:

I ever get canceled,

Josh:

I'm

Josh:

going

Josh:

to

Josh:

be like tropical.

Josh:

Let's start a

Josh:

cult.

Josh:

That'll be my

Josh:

rebrand.

Josh:

They'll

Video:

new podcast.

Josh:

they'll never

Josh:

know.

Josh:

Uh,

John:

boy.

Josh:

Joe God,

Josh:

First episode

Josh:

canceled again.

Josh:

Triple tropical.

Josh:

Oh Engelhard considered God and coconut analogs for the

Josh:

Christian.

Josh:

Holy Trinity's

Josh:

father and son.

Josh:

Unfortunately his

Josh:

dedication turned

Josh:

him into a ghost.

Josh:

Because

Josh:

he died

Patrick:

And the name, and the name of the coconut

Josh:

in

Josh:

the new,

Josh:

according

Josh:

to

Josh:

NVR from 1902

Josh:

until

Josh:

1919, his

Josh:

meals consisted mainly

Josh:

of coconuts.

Josh:

Well, is all Jesus' diet seemed

Josh:

like

Josh:

a soul food.

Josh:

It

Josh:

damaged

Josh:

his body and

Josh:

blood.

Patrick:

Hi.

John:

oh my God.

Josh:

yeah.

Josh:

Um,

Patrick:

Oh,

Josh:

so,

Patrick:

Hey, not enough sun, huh?

Josh:

not,

Josh:

not enough to maybe

Josh:

too

Josh:

much.

John:

you already know, this fool is pruny as

John:

fuck,

John:

bro.

John:

Like, like

John:

leather tan

John:

skin

John:

looking.

Patrick:

Oh yeah.

Patrick:

With hella spots.

John:

yeah, dude.

Josh:

But do

Josh:

you know who won't force you to eat coconuts

Josh:

until

Josh:

you die?

Patrick:

Huh?

John:

Joe Rogan.

Josh:

No,

Josh:

he will.

Josh:

He

Josh:

will

Josh:

definitely.

John:

ask

John:

you, right you, right?

Josh:

horse

Josh:

based.

Josh:

He's the horse

Josh:

pace guy.

Patrick:

What's HeartSpace

Josh:

It's

Josh:

ivermectin, isn't it?

John:

Yeah.

Patrick:

Oh, I don't know.

John:

That's what it

John:

is.

Josh:

What'd

Josh:

you call

Josh:

it

Josh:

before John?

Josh:

You

Josh:

called it horse.

Josh:

horse

Josh:

tranquilizer

Video:

Oh,

Patrick:

is the academy.

John:

much.

John:

You're revealing a

John:

lot about

John:

your

Patrick:

I know.

Patrick:

I've I've heard.

Patrick:

I've heard.

Patrick:

I've

Patrick:

heard.

John:

your roll.

Josh:

I've T I've

Josh:

tried.

Josh:

I've

Patrick:

So I've been told.

Josh:

Uh, I

Josh:

try it

Josh:

every

Josh:

day

Josh:

at

Josh:

breakfast.

Josh:

It's the

Patrick:

especially the,

Patrick:

yeah,

Patrick:

bro.

Patrick:

It has, fiber has hella

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

fiber

Josh:

from

Josh:

a needle

Josh:

and

Josh:

it's,

Josh:

it's good

Josh:

for

Josh:

you,

John:

the

John:

tropical special

John:

K

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

well,

Josh:

my

Josh:

ad, my

Josh:

sponsors will not

Josh:

force you to take ketamine or

Josh:

eat coconuts unless they're a coconut company.

Josh:

I don't know if those exist, but, uh,

Josh:

here are some ads

Josh:

so in

Josh:

his collection of writings or written work title, a carefree

Josh:

future,

Josh:

the new

Josh:

gospel, August

Josh:

had written

Josh:

down

Josh:

his entire religion.

Josh:

The book

Josh:

was filled

Josh:

with

Josh:

dedicated

Josh:

poetry

Josh:

and

Josh:

love messages.

Josh:

Some of the

Josh:

poems are

Josh:

genuinely,

Josh:

I was

Josh:

standing

Josh:

from the artistic

Josh:

sense he was referred to as a

Josh:

good

Josh:

orator.

Josh:

Here is an extract

Josh:

of

Josh:

the poem titled

Josh:

mother coconut

Josh:

by

Josh:

a Inglehart

Josh:

quote, coconut Nobel princess, and benevolent

Josh:

mother of.

Josh:

likeness

Josh:

of

Josh:

God,

Josh:

you

Josh:

are, and divine

Josh:

and

Josh:

shape a plant

Josh:

and quote,

Patrick:

That's

Patrick:

beautiful

Josh:

that's beautiful I John's tearing

Josh:

up.

John:

I didn't

John:

feel

John:

shit,

Josh:

I've

Josh:

never

Josh:

heard

Josh:

someone talk

Josh:

so,

Josh:

so

Josh:

nicely, but

Josh:

a coconut.

John:

Uh, know.

Josh:

so he

Josh:

was said to possess

Josh:

oratory powers with radical

Josh:

ideas.

Josh:

this could be another attribute

Josh:

that

Josh:

drove his

Josh:

followers into the movement.

Josh:

like most call leaders.

Josh:

I mean, it's it's

Josh:

implied any

Josh:

call here is usually a good speaker.

Josh:

though

Josh:

he might've possessed somewhat good leadership qualities.

Josh:

He lacked the trust, a

Josh:

leader needed

Josh:

in his

Josh:

members or

Josh:

subjects.

Josh:

He

Josh:

demonstrated this in how he left his members

Josh:

to die

Josh:

of malaria.

John:

Oh

Josh:

yeah.

Josh:

this

Josh:

is

Josh:

what a woken many

Josh:

good leaders

Josh:

to

Josh:

review

Josh:

other

Josh:

options,

Josh:

rather

Josh:

than an only coconut diet to give

Josh:

his members

Josh:

a

Josh:

better immune system.

Josh:

He

Josh:

never

Josh:

thought he, that, that

Josh:

his belief

Josh:

had any faults.

Josh:

though,

Josh:

if

Josh:

there was

Josh:

a

Josh:

problem, he blamed the members

Josh:

that

Josh:

were the victims in the case of those who died from malaria, he believed that brought such misfortune

Josh:

upon themselves because they ate other

Josh:

fruits.

Josh:

Aside from the coconut.

Josh:

he,

Josh:

however, also died

Josh:

from malnutrition and

Josh:

very unhealthy weight.

Josh:

Would

Josh:

you not just get sick

Josh:

of

Josh:

coconuts?

Josh:

Like

Josh:

eating

Josh:

it

Josh:

every

Patrick:

sure.

Patrick:

Yeah.

Josh:

You

Josh:

there's no way you

Josh:

can get your calorie

Patrick:

yeah.

Patrick:

How

Patrick:

much, how much coconut can you eat in one sitting though?

Josh:

That's

Josh:

what I mean,

Josh:

like.

Josh:

it's

Josh:

like

Josh:

the, um,

Josh:

and I I've

Josh:

done

Josh:

this before,

Josh:

so I know,

Josh:

but like

Josh:

the

Josh:

people who meal prep,

Josh:

the

Josh:

same meals,

Josh:

Fuck

Josh:

by

Josh:

the

Josh:

now

Josh:

I'm

Josh:

just so sick of

Josh:

it.

Josh:

I'm like,

Josh:

what

Josh:

the fuck?

Josh:

Chicken

Josh:

and rice is just

Josh:

not

Josh:

cutting

Josh:

it

Josh:

for me.

Patrick:

Yeah, I've done it I did it for like a month chicken, rice and vegetables.

Patrick:

It was,

Patrick:

It was so bad.

Patrick:

It just made you It made you crave other stuff, even more.

Patrick:

you

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

So, So,

Josh:

we all

Josh:

lived the

Josh:

same college

Josh:

university lifestyle.

John:

Yeah.

John:

I was just like,

John:

man,

John:

fuck.

John:

I'm going to

John:

be fight

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

You're like,

John:

harder to

John:

get

John:

kidnapped

Josh:

Harder to kidnapped

Josh:

Jesus.

Patrick:

freshmen 30.

Josh:

John's

Josh:

walking

Josh:

to

Josh:

school

Patrick:

Well, no nine.

Josh:

20

John:

bro.

Josh:

he's, 23.

Josh:

Worried

Josh:

about

Josh:

getting kidnapped.

John:

Oh fuck

John:

it.

John:

I'm a

John:

soul as a fucking fifth graders.

John:

So yes, I am scared to get

John:

kidnapped.

Josh:

do

Josh:

have

Josh:

a young

Josh:

looking face,

Josh:

so

John:

Thank you.

Josh:

yeah.

Josh:

Oh

John:

I missed all

John:

as a

John:

fifth grader and not

John:

as smart as

Video:

every,

Patrick:

every time a kidnapping bag passes by John's running.

John:

shit.

John:

Oh, bank bus,

John:

bank,

John:

Let's get the fuck out of here.

Josh:

I

Josh:

don't need the

Josh:

candy.

Josh:

I don't

Josh:

need

Josh:

the candy.

Josh:

I

Josh:

don't need the kidney.

John:

It

John:

was a taco

John:

man

John:

up.

John:

Fucks me up.

John:

like shit.

John:

Let me go in that bitch

Josh:

Is

Josh:

there really

Josh:

tacos

Josh:

in there?

Video:

Oh,

Patrick:

shit.

John:

a

Josh:

It just

Josh:

Smells

Josh:

like blood

Josh:

and tears back

Josh:

there.

John:

right?

Video:

Oh

Video:

fuck

Josh:

you

Josh:

guys always get

Josh:

me off

Josh:

topic.

Josh:

I

Josh:

don't know.

John:

That's the point?

John:

Yeah.

John:

that's that's on you for inviting us.

John:

It's not like you're at a

John:

problem.

Josh:

That's

Josh:

fair

Josh:

enough.

Josh:

You know,

Josh:

although our

Josh:

episodes

Josh:

were very highly

Josh:

downloaded.

Josh:

so.

Josh:

Mike, because

Josh:

it was

Josh:

titled

Josh:

the

Josh:

Nazis.

Josh:

But,

Josh:

so, uh, he

Josh:

was also

Josh:

a very

Josh:

rigid in his leadership, leaving no

Josh:

space for opinions

Josh:

of the

Josh:

members,

Josh:

which

Josh:

does not

Josh:

depict good

Josh:

leadership

Josh:

where the members, had contrary opinions.

Josh:

He

Josh:

turned his back

Josh:

on

Josh:

them also for someone who trained to

Josh:

become a pharmacy

Josh:

assistant, he could have done better researching the

Josh:

nutritional benefits

Josh:

of coconut

Josh:

fruit

Josh:

before

Josh:

launching

Josh:

a cult,

Josh:

which

Josh:

I don't know how

Josh:

much

Josh:

like

Josh:

dietary

Josh:

information they had

Josh:

back then, you know,

Josh:

like I

Josh:

have

Josh:

no

Josh:

idea.

Josh:

It was a hundred years

Josh:

ago.

Josh:

They

Josh:

might

Josh:

not

Patrick:

Yeah, they, don't not on

Patrick:

the menu.

Patrick:

They don't have the calories.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

It's

Josh:

definitely not.

Josh:

They're

Josh:

just introducing

Josh:

that now.

Patrick:

Exactly.

Josh:

his

Josh:

story, however,

Josh:

showed that co the coconut

Josh:

was not a self-sufficient

Josh:

fruit and

Josh:

could not provide

Josh:

everything for the

Josh:

human body to survive.

Josh:

He

Josh:

lived for 17

Josh:

years from 1902 till 19, 19

Josh:

as the cult leader,

Josh:

but did not live a

Josh:

healthy lifestyle.

Josh:

His

Josh:

religion was part

Josh:

of a

Josh:

greater shift away from the excesses of the

Josh:

early 20th century,

Josh:

lake pre veganism,

Josh:

but without the tofu,

Josh:

which at

Josh:

least

Josh:

tofu gives

Josh:

you

Josh:

like

Josh:

some benefits and they, and vegans

Josh:

usually

Josh:

eat it

Josh:

with other things like

Josh:

are

Josh:

vegetarians,

Josh:

you

Josh:

know?

Josh:

So

Josh:

they're

Josh:

getting

Josh:

other,

Patrick:

tough was vegan, right?

Patrick:

Yeah.

Patrick:

Tough.

Patrick:

Tough

Josh:

Yeah.

Patrick:

Yeah.

Patrick:

Okay.

Josh:

vegan, But I was just

Josh:

saying vegetarians also

Josh:

eat tofu.

Josh:

Um,

Josh:

it's pretty

Josh:

good.

Josh:

And it's not

Josh:

bad

Josh:

if you

Josh:

put it

Josh:

in

Josh:

stuff

Josh:

with the right.

Josh:

right.

John:

Put the

John:

worst things in there that defeats the

John:

purpose.

Josh:

Well, that's

Josh:

fair.

Josh:

I guess.

John:

MSG.

John:

What

Patrick:

yeah, I was going to say

Patrick:

We have a dish that's like fried tofu, boat drenched

Patrick:

in soy sauce and vinegar and oh, I'm mixed with pork fat.

Josh:

Oh God.

John:

Pork fat.

John:

Yeah.

John:

So.

John:

it's like, that'd be

John:

super

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Just, just eat the pork

Josh:

at

Josh:

that point

Josh:

or a

Josh:

Chicken.

Josh:

Um,

Video:

different

John:

texture.

Josh:

So unsurprisingly, he

Josh:

didn't have

Josh:

a very large

Josh:

following.

Josh:

However, it was believed that what mattered to Inglehart

Josh:

was not the size

Josh:

of the

Josh:

group,

Josh:

but

Josh:

what you do with

Josh:

it,

John:

Um,

Josh:

the

Josh:

numbers

Josh:

of

Josh:

the order of the sun did not deter

Josh:

August

Josh:

single

Josh:

heart

Josh:

from

Josh:

being

Josh:

the dangerous

Josh:

cult leader, he

Josh:

was,

Josh:

he

Josh:

was not a normal guy by

Josh:

any

Josh:

measure,

Josh:

especially not

Josh:

the

Josh:

metric that coconuts could mend

Josh:

anything and cure

Josh:

everything.

Josh:

He

Josh:

was wrong for using

Josh:

his sermons to persuade his disciplines, that the

Josh:

coconut would

Josh:

answer

Josh:

everything,

Josh:

but that was

Josh:

his

Josh:

belief, even if

Josh:

it was

Josh:

barbaric.

Josh:

So

Josh:

Heinrich, you can a 24 year-old vegetarian captivated with

Josh:

angle hearts,

Josh:

radical

Josh:

lifestyle,

Josh:

and

Josh:

max let's

Josh:

out a former conductor and musician in Berlin's.

Josh:

well-regarded louts

Josh:

orchestra

Josh:

where two

Josh:

of

Josh:

his converts,

Josh:

they were

Josh:

both

Josh:

well-known persons.

Josh:

Yet.

Josh:

He

Josh:

persuaded them to join his

Josh:

cult.

Josh:

so

Josh:

there's

Josh:

two

Josh:

names that aren't

Patrick:

Hey

Josh:

August,

Patrick:

up to five.

Josh:

I have to find

John:

we're expanding everything now.

Josh:

uh,

Josh:

you can easily embrace

Josh:

the sun worshiping coconut Venus,

Josh:

but his constitution could not

Josh:

endure the dramatic bodily changes.

Josh:

He died within weeks because the system was unable to handle the stress

Josh:

of adapting,

Josh:

to such a lifestyle.

Josh:

his

Josh:

death

Josh:

shocked other

Josh:

cult members,

Josh:

but It

Josh:

did not serve

Josh:

as a wake-up

Josh:

call

Josh:

for them

Josh:

to halt

Josh:

or

Josh:

flee.

Josh:

They

Josh:

continued to go on

Josh:

with their lives.

Josh:

So it kind of fucked up.

Josh:

This

Josh:

guy shows up for two weeks and dies

Josh:

on a

Josh:

coconut diet,

Josh:

which

Josh:

is, you

Josh:

know, says

Josh:

something

Josh:

about someone

Josh:

who lives 17 years

Josh:

Just eating that

Josh:

I guess.

Josh:

But

Josh:

I don't

Josh:

know.

Josh:

Let's

Josh:

go on

Josh:

the

Josh:

other

Josh:

hand was

Josh:

well

Josh:

liked by the islands ruler, but

Josh:

for

Josh:

some

Josh:

reason

Josh:

he

Josh:

had brought along

Josh:

his music collections, and frequently performed compositions.

Josh:

That irritated England.

John:

It's the Viola.

Josh:

He

Josh:

brought

Josh:

the Viola

Josh:

and he's like,

Josh:

nah,

Josh:

not This

Josh:

This is my

Josh:

one,

Josh:

my one weakness.

Josh:

let's

Josh:

say I was

Josh:

stuck

Josh:

on a mission boat far from shore

Josh:

after

Josh:

a

Josh:

disagreement.

Josh:

And because there was no fresh food

Josh:

on board,

Josh:

he refused to

Josh:

eat.

Josh:

He was feverish

Josh:

beyond

Josh:

repair.

Josh:

By the time he

Josh:

came

Josh:

to land

Josh:

dying in the scorching heat.

Josh:

so basically

Josh:

angle,

Josh:

heart.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

He

Josh:

sent them

Josh:

off because they had a disagreement

Josh:

and

Patrick:

He said, go

Patrick:

back.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Basically

Josh:

or no, I don't.

Josh:

Yeah,

Video:

no

Josh:

coconuts

Josh:

for

Josh:

you.

Josh:

And

Josh:

he's

Josh:

like, that's all

Josh:

I

Josh:

eat.

Josh:

Then

Josh:

you will not eat.

Patrick:

This was

Patrick:

your idea.

Josh:

don't turn

Josh:

this around on

Josh:

me.

Josh:

Boy,

Josh:

take

Josh:

your Viola and get

Josh:

the

Josh:

fuck out of here.

Josh:

so other members, other group members, perish

Josh:

from other

Josh:

causes, including drowning sunstroke

Josh:

and malaria

Josh:

from which

Josh:

many of them sought

Josh:

sanctuary,

Josh:

Some of

Josh:

the cultists

Josh:

were

Josh:

ironically killed

Josh:

after being struck

Josh:

by falling coconuts.

John:

Definitely

John:

Dumbfoundead.

Josh:

Well,

Josh:

I think that's like,

Josh:

it's like

Josh:

a bigger

Josh:

cause of

Josh:

death than you

Josh:

would

Josh:

think.

Patrick:

No, I was just going to say, I think there's like a stat that says you'll die by a coconut before you die by a strike or get struck by lightning or

Patrick:

some

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

It's a weird,

Josh:

like

Josh:

it

Josh:

does happen.

Josh:

Falling coconuts.

Josh:

This is

Josh:

in, uh,

Josh:

an article

Josh:

from 2017

Josh:

falling

Josh:

coconuts

Josh:

kill

Josh:

150 people

Josh:

worldwide

Josh:

each year,

Josh:

15

Josh:

times the number

Josh:

of

Josh:

fatalities

Josh:

to sharks.

Patrick:

Oh, that's what it was.

Patrick:

It was

Patrick:

sharks.

Patrick:

It was sharks.

Patrick:

Yeah.

John:

Uh, Coquina is more dangerous than

John:

a

John:

shark.

Josh:

if you

Josh:

think about it, like

Josh:

they're

Josh:

heavy.

Video:

and like

John:

That is, they are

Josh:

if it drops from

Josh:

like a,

Patrick:

I don't know, 30

Josh:

20, 20, 30 feet,

Josh:

that's

Josh:

gonna, that's gonna

Josh:

knock

Josh:

you out or

Josh:

at least

Josh:

give you

Josh:

a

John:

You're right.

Patrick:

Pretty

Patrick:

nice A little nice though.

Patrick:

Shining it on your head

Josh:

a

Josh:

concussion.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

So

Josh:

it was not a

Josh:

particularly successful cult.

Josh:

Several

Josh:

individuals died

Josh:

likely

Josh:

because of hunger

Josh:

and

Josh:

many returned

Josh:

home

Josh:

to, laminate,

Josh:

their life

Josh:

choices,

Josh:

uh,

Josh:

lament

Josh:

their life

Josh:

choices

Josh:

from

Josh:

malnutrition laminate.

Josh:

And they're like,

Josh:

I'm

Josh:

done.

Josh:

She

Josh:

put me

John:

Hey son, look at this piece of coconut meat I eliminated

John:

for my time

John:

and Papa new Guinea.

Josh:

the two

Josh:

weeks I went

Josh:

there on vacation.

John:

while I was watching naked men.

Josh:

women,

Josh:

there's

John:

no women just

John:

naked

John:

men,

Josh:

only,

Josh:

um,

John:

all Adams

Josh:

from malnutrition to sunstroke and malaria,

Josh:

the

Josh:

cult members gradually died

Josh:

off.

Josh:

those

Josh:

who lived ran back to Germany away

Josh:

from

Josh:

the island

Josh:

that

Josh:

Inglehart did angle hearts.

Josh:

Self-created

Josh:

cult was

Josh:

located

Josh:

while all these happened,

Josh:

Inglehart

Josh:

continued to be devoted

Josh:

and did not allow

Josh:

anything

Josh:

happening around to deter

Josh:

him from

Josh:

continuing the

Josh:

sect.

Josh:

He was later

Josh:

left there all by

Josh:

himself and the German

Josh:

government forbade people from going there,

Josh:

due

Josh:

to his

Josh:

lunacy.

Josh:

He

Josh:

did not

Josh:

care,

Josh:

but

Josh:

continued

Josh:

to blame those

Josh:

who died for

Josh:

polluting their bodies with impurities,

Josh:

from other food sources,

Josh:

which

Josh:

is, you know, fair like

Josh:

sugars

Josh:

and shit.

Josh:

Like, that's

Josh:

not good for

Josh:

you,

Josh:

but

Patrick:

how did this guy live so long?

Video:

Not

Josh:

pure hatred.

Josh:

I

Josh:

think

Josh:

it was feeling

Patrick:

he was eating He was eating something else.

Patrick:

You guys

Patrick:

all eat only coconut while I eat

John:

coconut

John:

shrimp

Josh:

yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

coconut

Josh:

shrimp.

Patrick:

he turned it into the forest Gump.

Josh:

I,

Josh:

I

Josh:

would

Josh:

not

Josh:

put

Josh:

it past them to have eaten some others stuff to stay

Josh:

healthy.

Josh:

You

Josh:

know, that's

Josh:

kind of

Josh:

what cult

Josh:

leaders

Patrick:

I was just going to say it's a cult leader

Patrick:

thing.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

his

Josh:

location was turned

Josh:

into a

Josh:

tourist spot

Josh:

where people

Josh:

came

Josh:

to see the

Josh:

seq leader,

Josh:

some of the

Josh:

tourists who

Josh:

went out

Josh:

of

Josh:

their

Josh:

way to

Josh:

visit the solitary madman took photographs, which showed him as a bearded

Josh:

bag of

Josh:

bones with

Josh:

terrible skin,

Josh:

who he

Josh:

was,

Josh:

uh, macerated.

Josh:

And it was

Josh:

quite obvious that

Josh:

the coconut

Josh:

could

Josh:

not help

Josh:

him.

Video:

out.

Josh:

He could not refuse healthcare and

Josh:

a local doctor

Josh:

nursed him back to life

Josh:

instead of continuing to be better.

Josh:

He ran

Josh:

back

Josh:

to his island

Josh:

to his former

Josh:

way of life.

Josh:

He

Josh:

continued

Josh:

to live

Josh:

with

Josh:

this

Josh:

system

Josh:

until

Josh:

he

Josh:

could not

Josh:

take any more,

Josh:

bouts of malnutrition.

Josh:

And

Josh:

so he died

Josh:

in

Josh:

19, 19 at

Josh:

the

Josh:

age

Josh:

of

Josh:

44.

Josh:

very

Josh:

young.

Video:

you

John:

consider

John:

considering you ain't coconuts for like,

John:

jeez.

Josh:

Yeah,

Josh:

pretty good.

Josh:

Pretty

Josh:

good.

Josh:

The coconut

Josh:

religion does not stand out in the category of unorthodox religions.

Josh:

and

Josh:

although during its time, it may have managed to attract some relatively

Josh:

high profile

Josh:

figures.

Josh:

it

Josh:

ranks lower than some

Josh:

of the fringe calls

Josh:

the

Josh:

world has

Josh:

seen.

Josh:

Over the years,

Josh:

the sect

Josh:

has washed away

Josh:

from the people's

Josh:

memories

Josh:

and the younger generations do not even know what

Josh:

it was

Josh:

like

Josh:

in its heyday.

Josh:

There

Josh:

were also

Josh:

largely unaware of the purpose.

Josh:

It served

Josh:

up until just a few years

Josh:

ago.

Josh:

All that can

Josh:

be said

Josh:

to

Josh:

be

Josh:

left of the religion

Josh:

is an old woman who still tends

Josh:

to religious

Josh:

and

Josh:

shrine,

Josh:

but

Josh:

even

Josh:

she

Josh:

isn't as

Josh:

devout

Josh:

when asked, she admitted that she sprinkled salt chili or

Josh:

pepper

Josh:

on her

Josh:

coconut

Josh:

meals,

Josh:

the pure coconut has become

Josh:

unpalatable.

Josh:

And that

Josh:

is

Josh:

the coconut

Josh:

cult.

John:

Damn

Video:

wait.

Patrick:

So the shrine is still there.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

They

Josh:

have a

Josh:

shrine still on the island,

Josh:

um, that, uh, it it's

Josh:

like a

Josh:

tourist destination now.

Josh:

so

Josh:

it is tended, by this

Josh:

woman who

Josh:

kind of believes

Josh:

the

Josh:

religion, I

Josh:

guess,

Josh:

but

Josh:

obviously not not, not

Josh:

as

Josh:

fully

Josh:

as, uh, as

Josh:

August.

Video:

did

John:

man.

John:

I wonder if their coconut their

John:

hits different,

Josh:

maybe,

Josh:

maybe we

Josh:

should

Josh:

go,

Josh:

that'll be

Josh:

our

Josh:

next

Josh:

trip.

Josh:

After we

Josh:

go

Josh:

to the John Froome islands and then two, are we going to

Josh:

Nazi

Josh:

Germany where

Josh:

Nazis

Josh:

were

Video:

we'll

Josh:

do a

Josh:

tour.

Josh:

We'll visit

Josh:

all the

Josh:

August.

John:

Well, I mean,

John:

well, they

John:

make it back alive.

Josh:

Will I,

John:

we we we also got to go to

John:

the

John:

volcano.

Video:

Oh yeah.

Josh:

That's

Josh:

yeah,

Josh:

the John

Josh:

Freund volcano.

Josh:

That's what it was.

John:

there you go.

John:

There it is.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I

Josh:

forgot about

John:

I, If I don't if I don't jump

John:

in there,

John:

because they'll probably think I'm the Messiah,

Josh:

manscape

Josh:

better sponsor us.

Josh:

We're

Josh:

going

Josh:

to have

Josh:

to do all these

Josh:

trips.

Josh:

Jesus.

John:

right.

Josh:

All

Josh:

right.

Josh:

Well that is the coconut

Josh:

called.

Josh:

we're not

Josh:

done yet though.

Josh:

It's time

Josh:

for

Josh:

a cult

Josh:

critique.

Josh:

Your

Josh:

favorite

Josh:

part of the show where we rate the cult

Josh:

that we just talked

Josh:

about.

Josh:

You

Josh:

can

Josh:

give

Josh:

it

Josh:

a rating

Josh:

out

Josh:

of

Josh:

five stars, one

Josh:

to five, whatever.

Josh:

One being good,

Josh:

One

Josh:

being bad,

Josh:

whatever

Josh:

you

Josh:

feel

Josh:

like.

Josh:

John,

Josh:

what would you

Josh:

rank?

Josh:

the coconut.

Josh:

cult.

John:

I would give

John:

it

John:

three coconuts

John:

and a banana

Josh:

Okay.

John:

a rating,

John:

just because

John:

I think the underlying message that it might be too,

John:

you

John:

know,

John:

open-ended but

John:

I, you know, I, was listening to a few shows, mentioning that there's going to be like limited resources in the world in a few

John:

Well, people

John:

overeating like over

John:

uh, fishing and all that.

John:

We're going to run out of all those basic things.

John:

Like, I probably could never be a vegan in my life

John:

ever.

John:

It's so difficult because I do enjoy eating a lot of other stuff, but

John:

I think

John:

I think their head was at the right place.

John:

Like maybe not

John:

try to

John:

eat less of

John:

everything

John:

and just

John:

try

John:

to

John:

limit the resources

John:

that we're using up.

John:

But

John:

yeah,

John:

three

John:

coconuts and a banana.

Josh:

That's a good point.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

I mean,

Josh:

it's definitely

Josh:

the extreme.

Josh:

You don't want to go to there's some

Josh:

where there's a

Josh:

healthy middle,

Josh:

you know,

Josh:

eat,

Josh:

eat good

Josh:

and

Josh:

eat

Josh:

a

Josh:

little bad.

Josh:

you

Josh:

live

Josh:

a healthy

Josh:

lifestyle, but, uh, that's a

Josh:

good

Josh:

point.

Josh:

What

Josh:

about

Josh:

you,

Josh:

Patrick?

Josh:

What would you rate the coconut cult?

Patrick:

He's Getting a one coconut for me, man.

Patrick:

It's

Patrick:

not enough numbers.

Patrick:

It's probably just.

Patrick:

them two

Patrick:

There bro.

Patrick:

They're all listening Nothing for other people

Josh:

that's true.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

he was just,

Josh:

he

Josh:

just

Josh:

made coconut

Josh:

people.

Josh:

He's like,

John:

From Hungary.

Josh:

They look like people.

Patrick:

Exactly.

Josh:

I must eat them.

Video:

does look like heads.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

That's what

Josh:

he's saying.

Patrick:

August.

Patrick:

We're

Patrick:

up to 20

Josh:

there's

Josh:

20 people

Josh:

that one's

Josh:

dead,

Josh:

It's just a

Josh:

coconut That's

Josh:

fallen over,

Patrick:

over.

Patrick:

Oh man.

Josh:

are arguing, arguing

Josh:

with

Josh:

the musician

Josh:

guy,

Josh:

sends

Josh:

them

Josh:

on a ship,

Patrick:

you know, other

Patrick:

music, it irritated him because he couldn't hear.

Patrick:

it,

Josh:

Yeah,

Josh:

Oh

Josh:

shit.

Patrick:

there were,

Patrick:

you know, there were a cuckoo for coconuts.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

They were cuckoo for

Josh:

coconuts.

Josh:

You

Josh:

are

Josh:

correct.

Josh:

He's back.

John:

Yes.

John:

He's more

John:

prepared here than he was in our own show.

Patrick:

that one's off the dome.

Patrick:

All

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Patrick,

Josh:

Patrick Patrick loves

Josh:

my

Josh:

show.

Josh:

Okay.

Josh:

He

Josh:

loves

Josh:

this.

Josh:

He's

Josh:

been

Josh:

on

Josh:

this

Josh:

show more

Josh:

than he has the

Josh:

Dumbfoundead in

Josh:

the

Josh:

past

Josh:

six

Josh:

months.

John:

It's a

John:

fact.

Patrick:

True.

Josh:

I'm also

Josh:

going

Josh:

to

Josh:

give it two

Josh:

star or two

Josh:

coconuts.

Josh:

No

Josh:

bananas.

Josh:

Cause we

Josh:

don't,

Josh:

we

Josh:

don't

Josh:

fuck with bananas

Josh:

around

Josh:

here.

Josh:

Um,

Josh:

yeah,

Josh:

I

Josh:

think it

Josh:

was a,

Josh:

it's an interesting

Josh:

cult.

Josh:

It's a fun one to talk about, but

Josh:

there isn't really

Josh:

much

Patrick:

there wasn't harm, I guess.

Josh:

yeah,

Josh:

was some harm.

Patrick:

Oh, I guess.

Patrick:

Yeah, there was harm,

Josh:

it

Josh:

was,

Josh:

it

Josh:

was

Josh:

self-inflicted

Josh:

to

Josh:

the

Josh:

point

Josh:

where it

Josh:

is.

Video:

like.

Josh:

People

Josh:

could

Josh:

leave.

Josh:

Like he

Josh:

wasn't keeping

Josh:

people

Josh:

there

Josh:

and

Josh:

he was

Josh:

okay

Josh:

when they left.

Josh:

Um,

Josh:

but when

Josh:

you

Josh:

were

Josh:

there, you had to adhere

Josh:

to his

Josh:

rules.

Josh:

which yeah,

John:

We'll be

Josh:

rules.

Josh:

Oh yeah.

Josh:

Don't don't

Josh:

play music

Josh:

don't

Josh:

oh,

Josh:

no.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Don't get

Josh:

married.

Josh:

You can't

Josh:

be married.

Josh:

Uh, no

Josh:

women.

Josh:

He just

Josh:

he just kept

Josh:

going

Josh:

with the rules.

Josh:

There's

Josh:

a lot

Josh:

of rules

Patrick:

Started out

Josh:

with.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Just like,

Josh:

just

Josh:

like the

Josh:

Bible

Josh:

10 commandments.

Josh:

That's

Josh:

it.

Josh:

Oh,

Josh:

wait,

Patrick:

up.

Josh:

you can't

Josh:

be

Josh:

gay.

Josh:

shit.

John:

Yeah, You

John:

can't do this.

John:

Can't do

Josh:

Well,

Patrick:

Oh shit.

John:

It's like what had happened was what we meant by that

John:

is

Josh:

there was a, there's a

Josh:

translation

Josh:

error and

Josh:

you

Josh:

can

Josh:

actually be gay now.

Josh:

Yeah.

Patrick:

That's funny.

Josh:

Thanks

Josh:

Mr.

Josh:

Pope.

Patrick:

Yeah, these commandments were written.

Patrick:

Oh no Fucking thousands.

Patrick:

of years ago.

Josh:

Yeah.

Josh:

Yeah,

Josh:

but

John:

it's like we

Josh:

only 4,000 years old.

Josh:

All

Josh:

right

Josh:

Before we put ourselves in more hot

Josh:

water.

Josh:

All

Josh:

right.

Josh:

So

Josh:

the

Josh:

Dumbfoundead

Josh:

is back,

Josh:

as we

Josh:

have said, super

Josh:

exciting.

Josh:

You guys,

Josh:

I believe your episode

Josh:

will

Josh:

be out by

Josh:

the time this

Josh:

one

Josh:

comes

Josh:

out.

Josh:

Right.

John:

Comes out

John:

January

John:

10th.

Josh:

it

Josh:

will

Josh:

be out

Josh:

by the time this episode

Josh:

is

Josh:

out.

Josh:

So, please

Josh:

tell Fred about the

Josh:

show, even though

Josh:

I'm pretty sure longtime listeners

Josh:

know

Josh:

who

Josh:

you guys are, but just, you

Josh:

know, refresher,

Josh:

get them, get them

Josh:

back into

Josh:

the show,

Josh:

get

Josh:

them excited

Josh:

about it.

Josh:

Sell,

Josh:

sell the Dumbfoundead for my

Josh:

listeners.

John:

Not

John:

it.

Patrick:

Nah, I did it last time.

Patrick:

It's your turn, bro?

John:

No, no,

John:

no,

John:

no,

John:

no.

John:

no,

John:

You got it.

John:

You got

Patrick:

motherfucker.

John:

I'm

John:

always

John:

on.

John:

All

John:

right.

John:

So

John:

they know

John:

about that shit.

Josh:

That's

Josh:

fair.

Josh:

Yeah.

Patrick:

Well, if you guys enjoy puns and want to hear more of me and John, although the first episode back.

Patrick:

Right.

Patrick:

Very little puns,

Josh:

Probably

Josh:

a

Josh:

ton

Josh:

of Dick

Josh:

jokes though.

Patrick:

a lot of

John:

Oh, there will be.

John:

Yes.

Patrick:

of improv, but we usually have a lot of puns and you like hearing about dumb ways people die.

Patrick:

I like to laugh at their misfortune.

Patrick:

Come

Patrick:

check us out at the Dumbfoundead pod.

Josh:

Nice.

Josh:

That was

Josh:

pretty

Josh:

good.

Josh:

That

Josh:

was

Josh:

concise.

Josh:

I liked that.

Josh:

I'm personally excited to have you guys back.

Josh:

I know it is only monthly right now, but, uh,

Josh:

I'm excited

Josh:

to

Josh:

hear

Josh:

you guys

Josh:

back

Josh:

and

Josh:

talking about

Josh:

dumb

Josh:

ways.

Josh:

People died much

Josh:

like

Josh:

killing

Josh:

yourself by just

Josh:

eating coconuts.

Josh:

That

Josh:

should be an episode.

Josh:

We'll

Josh:

do a

Josh:

crossover.

Patrick:

There you go.

Josh:

Um, that's

Josh:

awesome.

Josh:

Super excited.

Josh:

Definitely go check them out.

Josh:

Their episode is out right now, Spotify, apple

Josh:

podcasts,

Josh:

wherever you listen.

Josh:

podcasts, go look up the dumb found dead.

Josh:

And before

Josh:

we go, if

Josh:

you

Josh:

enjoyed this episode, please give us a

Josh:

five-star

Josh:

rating on

Josh:

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Josh:

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Josh:

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Josh:

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Josh:

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Josh:

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Josh:

anywhere else

Josh:

you can give ratings.

Josh:

I don't know if there's anywhere else, but definitely do so.

Josh:

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Josh:

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Josh:

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Josh:

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Josh:

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Josh:

going

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back to bi-weekly,

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it

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was just to kick off the year.

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three episodes

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in

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three weeks,

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but, uh, my lifestyle

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does not allow me

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to do that

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much research

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scripts.

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to

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back to,

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bi-weekly

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if you want

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the episodes

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can't keep

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uh, once again, go to

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network, or use

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if there's nothing

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else, boys, that is it.

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Thank

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you very much

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for coming on.

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for the third

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time, fourth time,

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it could be that a part

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two

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with the Nazis.

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Yup.

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so thank you very

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much, and we'll definitely

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have you guys on again,

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and thank

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you, Fred,

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for listening.

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will

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see you on the

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next episode.

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