We have a youtube channel called OFF GRID with DOUG and STACY
Basically we post daily videos about our daily life. We built a log cabin in 90 days from scratch. Built it with no carpentry skills. We have an organic garden with raised beds. We use the Back to Eden method. This year we just built a greenhouse to extend our season.
Did you have a whole team? 90 days?
Yes a whole team, 3 people and Me, myself and I
We bought a tractor, when we first bought the land.
We were city slickers when we got here. We have 11 acres
I have this great big tractor, it had a bucket more then adequate
notched the logs and put them up, it’s still standing and we’ve been here 6 years!
we grew up in the city….
jumped in with both feet and it’s been an awesome ride.
Tell me about your first gardening experience?
We’re from the St. Louis Metro area.
Stacy – I grew up, we live in a residential area with an acre lot. My dad was Mr. outdoorsmen. I wasn’t really interested in it at all. We had all the produce and I didn’t pay attention to one thing that he did. I could kick myself for but now that I’m older, I get it now.
We had grapes on our fence rows. We grew everything, raised rabbits. I was only child.
Doug grew up in an apartment with a sister and a single mom. I left home when I was almost 16, and there was 0 interest in that stuff.
How long ago did you pack up and go off grid?
6 years ago
It was just like we were sick of it. We wanted to know where our food was coming from and what was in it, GMO’s etc.
We wanted to live off the land
every day has been a challenge
first got here we had no idea what we were doing. When we first moved in, trying to figure out what we were gonna do
off grid with doug
didn’t have running water. Just got running water 2 years ago. For 4 years hauling water into
We charge our equipment
via our truck
videos on our channel to describe that
Turned out we were 7-8 miles away from the Amish and we befriended them
being the adventures guy I am, I ended up getting a team of belgiums and a plow
plowing with belgians
totally old fashioned
So if you had to start over again. Your place is wiped out or you move to Montana what would you do differently what would be the first thing you would do.
get right into
what kind of gardening we do now.
never know what’s gonna happen
This past year put our minds together
gonna get raised beds
made em high enough they are waist level my favorite way to do it.
over the years getting kind of smart
Yesterday I went to home depot, and took pictures of all the boards I want mike to design some beds, people are always asking me how to make them. We started out the same way, no running water. We started with 2 small 8×10 beds. WE’ve always had these really nice raised beds. The new mini-farm have deep beds but they are not raised beds. Yesterday I planted a fall crop of lettuce to see if it will grow and I was like it’s so nice to sit on the edge of this bed.
Need other mediums to grow
mulch type garden
We try to get raw cut cedar, we have a lot of
We have a lot of saw mills in our area
they’re gonna last the longest
He’s always arguing with me, who’s gonna go to home depot and buy wood you use recycled wood, I’m like lots of people don’t have access to recycled wood like we do. We have one that’s an old water bed frame.
hardier wood for fluctuating expansions
do what you can where you are
Better then to stand still till I have cedar
I’m glad you said that, people asked the other day about using railroad ties, but they have creoste I think or something.
compost your toilets
basically a humanure composting system, has been around thousands of years. You can youtube it or google it
5 gallon buckets
And then it turns into the most black luscious great compost
Get yourself educated on that there’s a certain stigma, but people are like ewww did he just say that? We get such great compost out of that and if you watch some youtube videos.
On our way!
We’re just programmed. You have a toilet and flush it. Even here, Ill say that the amish
have an access panel in the back
animal stuff and just spread it out in the fields. I’m not so cool with that system. But this system that you
creating compost for vegetables gardens
Tell us about something that grew well this year.
my favorite thing to grow
Anthocyanin rich fruits and vegetables.
I like to talk about health
some foods are better then others and I like the ones with bright colors.
Anthocyanins type of flavonoid a powerful antioxidant. They yield 2 times the amount of antioxidant
done very well
put it with little tomatoes or mozzarella
look like snakes
taste just like a cucumber
I have done very well in my beds
Last year they weren’t quite as good because we were trying to get the soil just right
super star projects
All my greens have done phenomenally
planted a new basil
spice up my herbs
grew out the Wazhoo lime taste
Mexican or something you want a lime flavor.
I am the worst at growing eggplant
I tried and it never works, I tried in different medium
I like to add a caveat to everything that did good section in our raised beds
some of the plants
We’re gonna heavy compost it and let it set.
We’re not that nerdy.
I think I was telling you in the pre-chat you’re like episode 202 but it’s been recommended, we haven’t done it either, I finally talked mike into doing it this year and then with school was so busy never did it either. I think they were talking about Eliot Coleman that found out he needed some obscure thing like Boron and sometimes they talk about putting gypsum which is dry-wall. And one part could be missing one thing and another part could be missing something else. Cause I asked about Mike’s new mini-farm versus our regular garden by the house.
As far as eggplants, one thing I know Mike has told me what finally worked for him was putting them in the same bed, he used to put like 2 here and 2 there and one there in different beds with tomatoes etc and he struggled for years. he would get beautiful plants and purple blossoms but no fruit. That was his answer.
I want to ask you about a swiss chard recipe because I went to the market with a huge bag and I was thinking I need to teach people what to cook with it. I like to use the stalks for celery with dip, they’re a little stringier but they have way more flavor.
I use it in everything? I blanch it, freeze it and use it instead of spinach because that’s hard to grow and I put it in eggs, lasagna, anywhere but do you have a favorite recipe?
loaded in vitamin
I ferment mine
It’s to die for if you like spicy foods
You can do it without making it spicy if you don’t like spicy food
cut the stalks in little pieces
take the green part
pull it apart
I don’t do a lot of it, but I’ve had a lot of guests and I just interviewed the Kombucha Mama
That’s basically how we preserve a large portion of our bounty by preserving.
6-months to a year
You’re not killing all the beneficial enzymes
couple of table spoons of that a day! It’s just great!
I can hear your duck in the background!
We talked about things that went good, eggplants that didn’t work so well.
Is there something you would do different next year or want to try/new?
nitrogen pulled out of a lot of the stuff being so new, our first year
looking forward to do new types of squashes and pumpkins
We just planted a fig tree we should have those coming on next year.
few little ones
My mom has a fig tree, and they are soooo yummy. Most people don’t know they are fresh green not the dried up things in the store.
I haven’t done that
all of the potatoes
I would love to grow sweet potatoes. I’m gonna have Mike work on that one of these years. My mom made pumpkin flowers love them.
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Which activity is your least favorite activity to do in the garden?
We don’t like to weed when it’s 100 degrees in the hot in the middle of the afternoon.
What is your favorite activity to do in the garden?
Stacy: collecting your bounty getting all your yummy produce
watching the day-to-day progress… you go out one day and the next day you go out and it’s double the size
I love to watch how it grows. One minute it looks like nothing and the next minute it looks great!
I know sometimes it seems like it grows in front of my eyes or I’ll go out and drive back in and it’s like I think that grown 3 inches today.
What is the best gardening advice you have ever received?
I think it is as a human body we need certain nutrients for us to survive
People don’t realize we need magnesium etc and so does your soil
when you can get your soil rich it will have a healthy immune system
their gonna be strong have good soil and a good base we want to get our
plants strong and strong immune system
Doug: I think the best advice I got is from watching youtube like
We’re friends with Curtis Stone the Urban Gardener
one advice is we like to echo is
find out what works for you
experiement and grow new things
many different ways of growing so if one doesn’t work for you go to plan B = be flexible
How many raised beds do you have now?
2 L shaped ones that are rather large
10 of them
A favorite tool that you like to use? If you had to move and could only take one tool with you what would it be?
I would have to pick him because you know what, we didn’t have anything tool wise
If I had to pick tool like a little handhoe in the raised beds I use that the most
The one with the pointy end
hand-hoe with a pointy end
Do you know what I’m talking about?
Maybe we can put a picture in the show notes? Doug, I’m only kidding you can pick a tool.
As far as the gardening goes
move it with your hand
use our hands
makes them from scratch out of iron
something minimal like that now
moved anywhere else
first two systems we would go to even if we moved to a difference place
Stacy: I have my dad’s wheelbarrow since 1960 still in good shape.
You know when I first came up with this question I thought a shovel, but then I thought a wheelbarrow too because one they’re pretty expensive, I’ve been trying to buy us another one so Mike has one for his mini-farm and we have one by the house. I think it’s essential for moving rocks, straw, weeds! This summer I cleaned out this little area I called it the secret garden because I think I hauled out 6 wheelbarrows full of weeds this weekend.
Almost every meal we make is harvested from the garden, this is what I do
We try to do at least 7-9 cups of leafy vegetables a day. I have these huge bowls to make a big salad. I get my scissors
make a home made salad dressing
mix it all up. One of our favorites.
Do you guys make cheese?
We have access
We barter with our amish friends
It’s about ROI
milking something 2xs a day
We’re trying to get word out about our lifestyle
barter with our neighbors
I’m an Italian coming out of New York and I have a friend who makes homemade Mozzerella and it is just to die for!
We’ll be in Oregon and Santa Rosa, CA for the Heirloom expo
All the Mother Earth News Fairs of 2017
Homesteaders of America on oct 14th in VA
What zone are you guys?
You are? Awesome, someone was just asking me? Do you have a good growing area?
Yeah, we do. With the greenhouse now we can take it into winter
If your listeners are interested we’re actually branding an OFF GRID with DOUG and STACY cold frame.
best green house panels
teamed up with them
coming out with a cold frame that we designed
built by a local craftsman
help people grow earlier and later into the year.
herb garden outside their back door
top of the cold frame
gateway into the tough text thing
It’s a great way to start. You just open it up
put your seeds in really easily
I love this idea. I want a kitchen garden right outside my kitchen that has lettuces, radishes etc. I’m a salad girl. And the herbs! My mom makes the most delicious salads all year because she has fresh herbs outside her front door and every salad tastes different!
heat up the soil
I think it was 4’ long and 2’ feet wide.
I’ve seen people do that on their long beds
chains in there
hinges do your business
tough text panels at loews
1,000,000 views month
pretty consistently a year and a year and 1/2
didn’t understand about youtube wasn’t thinking about documentary
help educate people
3 years ago
supplement income to the homestead
basically every day
our goal is to bring value
We’re not experts in one thing, we’re just living it and doing it and having our experiences and knowing what works and what doesn’t and we’re doing it. So a little bit of everything!
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If they come check out our channel, well we’ve built structures…
When we first got here and the only structure that was here was our big barn and I harvested the water off of that with gutters.
3000 gallon water catching system for
Listeners can come check it out, we gravity feed that into our log home and for the animals and the garden area.
We encourage you, even if you live in the city and your listening to this awesome podcast, try to hook something up to a 50 gallon barrel, something to your down spouts for your garden. Even if you’re in a suburban area and neighborhood you can do that, follow your local rules and guidelines, because there are some places that just don’t like that.
I built a $50 chicken coop in less then an hour that’s gotten 1000s of hits, if you are looking to raise some chickens.
Stacy does a lot of her stuff.
make your own
to get the most benefit out of foods – the healthiest way we can eat them today right now.
I cook with a sun oven, an ALL AMERICAN SUN OVEN
Don’t need to use energy. I’m roasting some almonds in it
Doug and I like to have fun together, we sit in our Hickory rocking chairs
stand behind one percent
a whole play list dedicated to it!
It’s the bomb!
If your listeners want to save money on them
DOUG: We use it like crazy!
STACY: All summer I use it everyday for something! It is definitely, living off grid but if you live in the suburbs in the summer time and don’t want to heat up your house.
as long as you can see your shadow you can cook in the ALL AMERICAN SUN OVEN in the winter time you can use it!
It’s a great item to have if you like organic stuff, it’s using no fossil fuels
For preserving all your bounty!
company been in business really likes what he’s doing
Montana you get a really good reflection, where you get a lot of snow
cooks really good
if it starts to rain and your already cooking you just bring it in it will continue cooking as long as you don’t open it up
can’t say enough about it
natural type of lifestyle might want to give it a look!
I’m gonna check that out today, because we’ve been out of propane and our electricity hasn’t gone out, I’m ready for an electric stove.
That propane stuff is gonna get spider webs
Once you get one you just wake up in the morning
held the world guiness book record for the most Chocolate chip cookies baked at the same time.
Helps women who have to cook in places like in Africa Somalia, etc.
They can save it and make it through the winter months.
sell it back to the harvesters later in the year for 5 times the produce. They are able to take the produce, dehydrate it themselves and save them money.
$1/2/$5 is a lot when 50¢ is the average wage.
not put it in direct sun. It’s like a crock pot without electricity, I think inthe first 2 weeks it had over 100,000 hits!
don’t have to follow the
You know how you leave and say we’ll go and we’ll be back at 4 and it’s 8:30pm when you get home.
we go get our stuff
it’s still warm
gasket makes a tight seal
nothing ever burns
Let it cook it’s normal time
brownines or bread at 350º
but they will dry out so don’t leave them.
Depends on the sun
will dry out
cook something kind of quick
if you can
set it and forget it
see a tab that says playlist
tons of recipes and ideas and ways to use it.
I was looking at your website because we’ve been having a problem with our chickens getting out into our garden.
We basically do things a little different, a lot of homesteaders on youtube keep chickens closed in. Some people use the electric netting
more of the planting
We let our
We keep our locked the garden area
do it when were’e ready of them to do it
nothing against but they have a team of people that are dragging these things around
as we get older we talk about a lot is to keep aging in place
systems in place
your the young buck right now no fear
systems in place that can accommodate that so we don’t have to scale back as dramatically as we age.
once every couple of days?
We have a big fence around it.
Snip their right wing.
doesn’t hurt them
most won’t go in there
make it to where they can’t fly so they can’t get the air that they need. We also have cats that take care of our
Want to keep them out too! Because it’s like a giant litter box.
Oh yes, Mike has that problem too especially in the winter when he plastics off the porch like a greenhouse he has to cover the pot when things are small.
Couple of books that were very influential
self sufficient life
wrote the book
encyclopedia of country living
back in the 70s 60s
came full circle
By Sally Fallon from Nourishing Traditions.com
what’s happened to the
wonderful way to r
watch out channel
grape nuts ads
going out and foraging
knowing your herbs and plants
Stalking the Wild asparagus
love those kind of books
we’re trying to get moving in that direction
when you bring value and entertainment intertwined
channels that around your size
look for someone with 100 subscribers
reach out to them
I think your channel’s great
you can do a video on a topic
very important part
when people take the time out to write you a comment
more your channel grows
100,000 basically one of us
mix it up
help if you are posting snidbits
all roads lead back to youtube
tagged to go into
when you go into as a creator
go to the playlist
they probably are more adventageous for twitter and instagram
that revolve around what your doing
metadata of your thumbnail
suggested video file
organic gardening or teaching
post 3 pictures every day
about 7000 instagram
something to offer
click on your logo
this is somebody
sales my home
left home at almost 16
hey were gonna do that
run into a few snags
led a very exciting life
if it passes
devote a lot of time to what they are good at
his wife plays in a band
playing in the band
check it out
stacy who hardly ever went out
just bought a brand new wrangler
I wanted to drive it
I asked her
That night I met
we do this thing bikers for babies
he comes up to me do you believe
got married in dec
that’s the girl I’m going to marry
right away we had a connection
circumstances going on in my life
never a dull moment
16 years ago if you would have walked up in that bar and someone told us your future is gonna involve youtube and living off grid, we would have been like are you crazy
600 square feet
do we have taco night
some of our subscribers come and visit and hang out and when they come we say we’re having taco night
Wonderful wonderful taco night! we eat a lot of tacos!
What’s good is that whoever comes
safest thing for people to eats
if there was one change you would like to see to create a greener world what would it be? For example is there a charity or organization your passionate about or a project you would like to see put into action. What do you feel is the most crucial issue facing our planet in regards to the environment either in your local area or on a national or global scale?
Stacy: food and water to survive. I would say the big thing is to get control with the GMO foods and wreaking havoc on people’s health, wreaking havoc in our environment.
you tube and dvds out
check that out
so many people being activitsts
get out there and get the word out
about GMO’s a lot of people don’t understand the difference between hybrid and
friends of ours
John Kolehr’s from Growing Your Greens.
First would be because IDK, if most of your listeners are probably hip to large scale farming especially using GMOs
That’s a misconception but what it does do is it drives down soil fertility
if we could educate people to grow their own food
depleted in magnesium
so many health issues because of our soil depletion
a lot of people are eating food grown with big farmer
not geting nutrition
we have a lot of
fat unhealthy people
we eat more food and health care then any place on the
growing their own food
procesed food and
storing things you should be storing at your own house
you should have a cabinet of things you grew
THAT WOULD BE A major blow to the global warming!
every household would get an ALL AMERICAN SUN OVEN
you could cut back on a lot of
We have a running joke that if Al Gore is really serious about global warming then he would come live this lifestyle
want you to walk the walk!
a sun oven in every person’s home would really cut down on fossil fuels so go to www.sunoven.com/dougstacy
I do put it in the shownotes, because I think because 38,000 people have been to my website but then they stay for like a minute so what they do there IDK?
We never thought we were gonna do it.
We bought 11 acres and we sold our house. We sold everything, we didn’t bring anything with us. We sold everything on craigslist, garage sales. We sold everything the only thing we kept was our futon and coffee table
I started building a long cabin
We had a one bedroom apartment we rented for a year
Get used to the process of being downsized.
getting used to the down
brought the tent up
Then we met the Amish
We have a 100 year old ice box like in the Pioneer days.
put ice in it in the old days
or we’ll set up containers
We’ve been working on building a root cellar. We have been talking all summer long we need another freezer.
It’s not really good for like freezing your food
cheat a little bit, we do have a neighbor
a neighbor handy with older gentleman
a freezer in his out building that we keep meat in
You could can your meat
grow in your root cellar
We’re going to build an ice box and stack the ice up in there
wire mesh trays
everything will be cold inside
I tell people all the time I’d do it over again except I want water on the property, I have to have drains in the house but I would haul water, we only went one summer with a cooler. I would never live without a fridge again.
You could get that ice cold. Build it out of 8 inch or 10inch thick styrofoam. You could cut down on your propane
propanes an option but you go through the propane.
can power a smaller fridge
When our neighbor moved in she put power in and it was only $2000 to put electricity in and we just went for it it was funny in 1999 going into to 2000 so we put in power and water and all of a sudden had power and cell phones and internet and it was funny!
right now were using our phone as a hot spot.
No way I was wondering how you were doing this?
We have a Verizon sweet spot
They were like we dont have coverage in that area and I was like no some friends came by and did streaming and sign me up!
Were they sorry they offered unlimited
Our go to quote is
Awesome Thanks so much you were so wonderful!
everyone comes together
just started it