Hi there I'm Sue and welcome to the gift biz unwrapped
Speaker:podcast. Whether you own a brick and mortar shop sell online
Speaker:or are just getting started,
Speaker:you'll discover new insight to gain traction and to grow your
Speaker:business. And today I have joining us,
Speaker:Janet Dom res Janet works at Alton's kennels.
Speaker:The business is a full service kennel offering boarding training,
Speaker:rescue services,
Speaker:and other creative programs such as a children's vet camp.
Speaker:Janet's husband Alden ran the business for 15 years,
Speaker:literally through word of mouth and phone book listings.
Speaker:Meanwhile, in 2010,
Speaker:after a 28 year career in the postal service and six
Speaker:rotator cuff surgeries,
Speaker:Janet needed to make a change.
Speaker:She joined her husband at Alden's kennels and approach the business
Speaker:with a mission to bring it up to date from a
Speaker:marketing standpoint,
Speaker:without knowing a thing about computers,
Speaker:much less website construction or social media.
Speaker:Janet started the process of learning and creating and Google became
Speaker:her best friend.
Speaker:Today. They have over 2000 videos on YouTube and over 2,600
Speaker:Facebook fans,
Speaker:Janet can equate the growth of their business to the visibility
Speaker:gained through online search.
Speaker:Now there's a whole lot more to this story,
Speaker:but I'm going to let you hear it directly from Janet,
Speaker:and that's what we're going to get into now,
Speaker:Janet, thank you so much and welcome to the show.
Speaker:Oh, well thank you for having a map.
Speaker:So excited.
Speaker:I know Janet and I met at a local chamber of
Speaker:commerce event and she and I just started talking and the
Speaker:more she talked,
Speaker:the more I was like,
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:all of you guys need to hear her story.
Speaker:So I convinced her to come on.
Speaker:So yay.
Speaker:Anyway, Janet,
Speaker:the way I like to start off is by having our
Speaker:listeners get a little bit of a different glimpse into who
Speaker:you are by having you describe a motivational candle.
Speaker:So if you were to help us envision your perfect candle,
Speaker:what color would it be?
Speaker:And what would be the quote on the candle?
Speaker:It would be a cream candle because a cream color reminds
Speaker:me something angelic.
Speaker:Like you have some kind of guardian angel that always find
Speaker:some way to get you through the tough times to lead
Speaker:you, guide you or do something like that.
Speaker:So cream would be my color for the candle to help
Speaker:you get through the toughest.
Speaker:Wonderful. And there's that kind of the quote,
Speaker:an angel getting youth,
Speaker:or do you have another quote for your candle?
Speaker:I'm not real good at the quilt part,
Speaker:but never hurts to have a guardian angel.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:And I agree.
Speaker:I agree with you.
Speaker:Totally. So Janet,
Speaker:let's start at the beginning.
Speaker:How did this idea of Alden's kennels get established in the
Speaker:first place?
Speaker:I was from the city,
Speaker:my husband was a country boy.
Speaker:And when we had our first two children that I was
Speaker:a stay at home wife,
Speaker:he was a diesel mechanic at patent industries is the trade
Speaker:he took,
Speaker:but he gave me every animal I ever wanted.
Speaker:So we kind of lived out in the country.
Speaker:So I was raised in Pomeranians pet Pomeranians and having fun.
Speaker:And I met a couple show people and seeing the difference
Speaker:between a show Palm and a pet Palm.
Speaker:So I just started with a couple litters and just learning
Speaker:how to market them.
Speaker:And Elle had a terrible accident at work.
Speaker:So they called me and said,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:can you make it out there?
Speaker:And I says,
Speaker:no, I only have the one car and he's got it.
Speaker:So they picked me up,
Speaker:they brought me to the hospital and he had a very
Speaker:serious head injury.
Speaker:Oh dear.
Speaker:From a split room that exploded.
Speaker:So he almost died.
Speaker:So he had about 17 operations.
Speaker:He could never return to his trade.
Speaker:We were married 10 years.
Speaker:We had two kids.
Speaker:I wasn't working.
Speaker:So I had to go and get the job at the
Speaker:post office.
Speaker:And he,
Speaker:instead of,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:making him pump gas,
Speaker:I said,
Speaker:stay home and take care of the dog.
Speaker:And I'll help you with the paperwork and how to sell
Speaker:them and that kind of stuff.
Speaker:And market it.
Speaker:She took care of all the animals and the kids for
Speaker:school. And I went to work at the post office.
Speaker:So we would have insurance.
Speaker:I didn't make anywhere near the kind of money he did.
Speaker:So he had to make money off of these dogs now.
Speaker:Right? So then I told him,
Speaker:I'll go meet those show people.
Speaker:So he got into the breeding program of breeding show dogs
Speaker:besides pet dogs and that evolved.
Speaker:And then we finally had enough money to go from renting
Speaker:a place with horses and dogs to moving to this place.
Speaker:But he had to literally build the buildings for the dogs
Speaker:to go in.
Speaker:So he was building dog kennels,
Speaker:training facilities,
Speaker:raising the dogs,
Speaker:breeding the dogs bottle,
Speaker:feeding the puppies.
Speaker:It's a lot of work,
Speaker:all of this,
Speaker:watching the kids.
Speaker:So I could go to work at a post office and
Speaker:I went to work there.
Speaker:And then I went to Midwest dog grooming school at night
Speaker:for nine months to be a dog groomer,
Speaker:to help his business a little bit.
Speaker:So then on weekends we would broom 20 dogs on a
Speaker:Saturday and Sunday to subsidize the palms a little bit.
Speaker:Then people wanted us to board dogs.
Speaker:So then we expanded and made a wing for boarding dogs.
Speaker:So Al was building this building and this business because he
Speaker:had lost his and he made a success.
Speaker:He started showing the dogs and winning.
Speaker:So we had exotic color Pomeranians that were sold internationally all
Speaker:over the world.
Speaker:And then you got the history of dogs.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:it started coming around with rescue dogs.
Speaker:Breeders were bad people.
Speaker:Now we're overpopulating the world.
Speaker:So if you aren't out showing and selling very expensive dogs,
Speaker:these poor pets,
Speaker:weren't going to have a home because people were convinced they
Speaker:had to do rescue these dogs and adapt them.
Speaker:So we did,
Speaker:we took the dogs and made packages of 10 breeding stock
Speaker:and sold them to some of the best breeders in the
Speaker:country and in the world.
Speaker:And we left,
Speaker:we left with one dog,
Speaker:Bambi and Bambi was our demo dog to show that a
Speaker:Pomeranian could do obedience.
Speaker:He could do should town work like a German shepherd.
Speaker:He could do a bark and hold.
Speaker:He could do tracking.
Speaker:And he shows the dogs how to go in and out
Speaker:of a dog door for the counterpart.
Speaker:He sells the obedience classes.
Speaker:He has a CD,
Speaker:a companion dog title.
Speaker:So I mean,
Speaker:this dog is the only pet we have now.
Speaker:And now we cater to all our customers,
Speaker:dogs, but this all evolved over an accident and not knowing
Speaker:where to go and to raise two kids.
Speaker:So they still had a decent life and could have their
Speaker:pets and I get them insurance.
Speaker:So I couldn't write this history.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you couldn't have started off and thinking,
Speaker:this is what what's going to happen.
Speaker:And it ended up being,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:thank God he was okay.
Speaker:Right. And then merging into what you're doing today.
Speaker:It's crazy how,
Speaker:and you hear this over and over again,
Speaker:how businesses evolve from circumstances Except the opportunities There.
Speaker:You've got to grab it.
Speaker:You've got to recognize it and grab it.
Speaker:And then like you were saying,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:it just kind of evolved from your husband,
Speaker:working with the palms at home so that you could work.
Speaker:And then one thing led to another led to another and
Speaker:look at how great it is today.
Speaker:Yes. It was constantly changing.
Speaker:So, I mean,
Speaker:everybody's got to kind of look at it that way.
Speaker:It's never going to stay the same,
Speaker:whether it's a trucking business,
Speaker:you could see trucking businesses going under and some flourishing we've
Speaker:got to look at why are those few flourishing?
Speaker:Is it their marketing plan?
Speaker:Had they added something to it?
Speaker:Have they looked and reached out to see what the customer
Speaker:wanted? So what we were good at raising palms and getting
Speaker:show dogs,
Speaker:the average person wasn't our target market anymore.
Speaker:So we needed to conform.
Speaker:Now we work with rescue dogs,
Speaker:training them and with the veterans,
Speaker:my husband's a Vietnam veteran.
Speaker:Also, if a veteran comes in with a rescue dog,
Speaker:we give them free lessons.
Speaker:So that that dog can be a good companion from cause
Speaker:most of them have post-traumatic stress.
Speaker:Right? So we've learned to use all of the resources and
Speaker:evolve with where the need is because it's constantly changing the
Speaker:economy's changing the people,
Speaker:what they want.
Speaker:Dogs are changing from show dogs to rescue dogs.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:if we would have been stuck in the rest of the
Speaker:show part,
Speaker:maybe we would have went under there.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So tell us a little,
Speaker:A little bit more.
Speaker:Okay. So your husband owned Aldean kennels,
Speaker:and you were off working in the postal service,
Speaker:a job that you said you loved.
Speaker:Right? Talk us through A little bit.
Speaker:What happened and how you started integrating in with the kennels?
Speaker:Well, they were downsizing at the post office.
Speaker:And so I was on light duty because I had the
Speaker:surgeries from delivering the mail for 20 years.
Speaker:And after six surgeries,
Speaker:I could not return back to the delivery.
Speaker:I can do light duty.
Speaker:There was no work light duty for,
Speaker:for me.
Speaker:So I missed out on my 30 year retirement.
Speaker:So at 28 years,
Speaker:Oh, you were so close.
Speaker:Right? I was so close.
Speaker:It's quite a cut.
Speaker:So I says,
Speaker:well, I better help him with his business because what we
Speaker:had planned down with my career just didn't pan out the
Speaker:way we had planned.
Speaker:So I looked at it and I looked at what the
Speaker:other businesses were doing.
Speaker:And these young dog trainers and stuff,
Speaker:they were all on the computer.
Speaker:They all had what pages.
Speaker:They had beautiful video showing what they did in the kennel
Speaker:when they were training,
Speaker:when they were boarding a dog,
Speaker:when they were interviewing a customer on,
Speaker:on the go home lesson.
Speaker:And I said,
Speaker:Oh, there really is something because they're getting customers in and
Speaker:you couldn't do that with a phone book anymore.
Speaker:People just weren't calling on the phone book.
Speaker:So I've got competition too.
Speaker:There's about seven kennels and a five mile radius and my
Speaker:neighborhood. And so you had to be found.
Speaker:So I got on the computer and learned Google.
Speaker:Now you gotta remember I'm old.
Speaker:I didn't know how to put a picture to an email.
Speaker:So I don't know anything about a computer,
Speaker:right. So I got my way through the computer and started
Speaker:Googling to find out what do the customers want?
Speaker:Where do they want to bring their dogs?
Speaker:What do they want to see their dogs do?
Speaker:I'm so out of touch with this computer thing.
Speaker:So I just Googled dog boarding,
Speaker:dog training and all the neighborhoods around me all the way
Speaker:until I got to Chicago,
Speaker:because it got more interesting.
Speaker:The further I went out to see these fabulous things that
Speaker:we're doing,
Speaker:but it was social.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:because they showed the video,
Speaker:the picture,
Speaker:the website,
Speaker:all this stuff you couldn't do in a phone book.
Speaker:So that's how I kind of got started.
Speaker:I Googled a company that's made websites.
Speaker:I had to make the back pages,
Speaker:but I told them,
Speaker:you got to teach me how to do it.
Speaker:I can't be calling you up every time I want to
Speaker:change, you know,
Speaker:a service or put a picture on.
Speaker:I says,
Speaker:that will cost me a fortune to hire somebody to update
Speaker:this. So I did find a company that could do that.
Speaker:So I think it took me about a month.
Speaker:They talked to me for one hour during the week and
Speaker:I would practice all week long and write notes.
Speaker:If I couldn't remember the next step I was supposed to
Speaker:do or something like that.
Speaker:So it was at least four hours on the phone.
Speaker:The four week I was able to do any content.
Speaker:I wanted pictures,
Speaker:tagged the pictures,
Speaker:open up a YouTube channel,
Speaker:do it with a $99 camera.
Speaker:At that time they didn't,
Speaker:I didn't have a phone that could take a video.
Speaker:This was back in 2010.
Speaker:And there I was,
Speaker:I had my YouTube channel.
Speaker:Then I had to learn how to put my picture on
Speaker:a YouTube channel.
Speaker:So they knew who it was if they want to subscribe
Speaker:to it,
Speaker:of course,
Speaker:and then put these videos on the website and then learn
Speaker:how to tag them.
Speaker:So I was learning all these things as I went along
Speaker:a little bit at a time to see what's the easiest
Speaker:way they could find me.
Speaker:So the reason I have 2000 videos is that's what I
Speaker:do for my customers.
Speaker:If they're getting a nature,
Speaker:walk, I video the one-time video and get their picture to
Speaker:go with it and put that on our Facebook page and
Speaker:tie the Facebook page with our website.
Speaker:If they get playtime or lesson,
Speaker:they get a video.
Speaker:So then to make it like a phone book,
Speaker:I would direct these videos to different towns,
Speaker:like a nature walk and Highland park,
Speaker:for instance,
Speaker:and tag it that way and Highland park,
Speaker:they would find Alden's kennels.
Speaker:Wow. All right.
Speaker:I'm going to stop you here because there is so much
Speaker:here, but now seriously,
Speaker:Janet, before you started,
Speaker:when you were working with the post office and then you
Speaker:took the break and then you started working with all of
Speaker:this. Did you have any marketing background classes,
Speaker:courses, knowledge at all?
Speaker:No. I didn't even know a business person.
Speaker:It's so interesting because you did two things that people talk
Speaker:about all the time and you just did them naturally.
Speaker:One of the things and give business owners,
Speaker:we've talked about this before is being resourceful.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:finding the answers.
Speaker:And especially now online,
Speaker:there's so much out there,
Speaker:but so Janet,
Speaker:didn't just say,
Speaker:I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker:I'm not doing it.
Speaker:She took on the challenge.
Speaker:And then she went and figured out a couple of things,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:under this resourcefulness category one,
Speaker:which is so important.
Speaker:And people forget to do this all the time.
Speaker:You were saying Janet,
Speaker:that you went to see what the customers wanted,
Speaker:right? So you were looking at the customer and providing the
Speaker:solution that you didn't think you knew what the customers wanted.
Speaker:You proved to yourself that these were the things that the
Speaker:customers wanted,
Speaker:which I think jump-started you right away in terms of the
Speaker:right path to go for,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:for getting visibility and resonating with people.
Speaker:And the other thing is,
Speaker:in terms of finding someone to help you with that website,
Speaker:we don't always have to do it alone.
Speaker:And this is one critical place where so many people,
Speaker:when they're starting up and they're an entrepreneur now,
Speaker:granted the business was already running,
Speaker:but you were taking it in a brand new direction.
Speaker:We don't have to do things ourself.
Speaker:And we so often,
Speaker:I think it was the podcast,
Speaker:either one,
Speaker:or I think it was two episodes ago now,
Speaker:I'm not sure exactly how we're going to schedule these out
Speaker:where Vivica Von Rosen from LinkedIn was talking about how we
Speaker:often are so late when we finally bring in some extra
Speaker:help, we try and do everything ourself.
Speaker:You didn't do that.
Speaker:Janet just naturally it's,
Speaker:it's pretty incredible.
Speaker:Naturally you went out and said,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I'm going to have someone help me build this website so
Speaker:we can get up and running,
Speaker:but then I want to know how to do it for
Speaker:the future.
Speaker:So super kudos to you because those are two things that
Speaker:many people don't come upon until later in the game.
Speaker:So that got you started towards success really quickly.
Speaker:Talk to us a little bit more about the evolution of
Speaker:the videos.
Speaker:So you were just describing how every chance you get,
Speaker:you take photos with customers in whatever they're doing,
Speaker:but it didn't start that way.
Speaker:Right? You were mentioning you were working with a camera camera
Speaker:instead of a phone camera way in the beginning,
Speaker:right? Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. It was pretty primitive.
Speaker:So you had to learn how to do it.
Speaker:And you know,
Speaker:YouTube changes all the time,
Speaker:just like Facebook and everything else.
Speaker:So you had to learn it and then relearn it and
Speaker:add to it.
Speaker:And then,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:it was almost three years before I upgraded the video equipment,
Speaker:but I mean,
Speaker:we did all right,
Speaker:because I was being found,
Speaker:they always said,
Speaker:what do you ever ties in Chicago?
Speaker:And I says,
Speaker:you know what,
Speaker:because they have the money to come.
Speaker:I'm cheaper than downtown Chicago.
Speaker:And I can give them everything the best Kendall can.
Speaker:And if I can't,
Speaker:I can outsource and find the kennels here that would have
Speaker:dock diving.
Speaker:I says,
Speaker:or a massage therapist or something like that,
Speaker:acupuncture. They want to go outside of it.
Speaker:We could do field trips.
Speaker:So that was another thing was if you don't have it,
Speaker:you can outsource it so that you have everything that customer
Speaker:wants and the people appreciated it and you go to the
Speaker:best places.
Speaker:And then you video there,
Speaker:here's your dog going to the field trip.
Speaker:It's going to camp out to play day with its friends.
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:So I mean,
Speaker:now how cool is that?
Speaker:Right? Right.
Speaker:Yeah. And just for our listeners,
Speaker:how far outside of Chicago are you?
Speaker:Oh, I'm two hour drive.
Speaker:Usually Two hour drive from Chicago.
Speaker:Yeah. But you know,
Speaker:for those of you who aren't in the area or our
Speaker:international viewers or listeners,
Speaker:Chicago is a huge market.
Speaker:So two hours mean it's not like there's Chicago and then
Speaker:it's farmland.
Speaker:And then there's,
Speaker:Alton's kennels.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:there's a lot of homes and all of that in between,
Speaker:but it is a way,
Speaker:yeah. Too soon as they're passing that our kennels and they
Speaker:come to me because they saw the video they saw the
Speaker:place looks like.
Speaker:Right. So do you have any suggestions for any of our
Speaker:listeners who are hesitant about doing video?
Speaker:They're making it easier all the time.
Speaker:So just dive right into it and all aspects.
Speaker:Some companies even offer some little classes for,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:79, 95,
Speaker:two or three hours.
Speaker:If you want to go live on Facebook or something,
Speaker:that's a video you're doing.
Speaker:You can do it on your phone.
Speaker:The phones are fabulous now for any just about anybody.
Speaker:I'll open up a YouTube channel for you.
Speaker:If you can't do it yourself,
Speaker:but it's,
Speaker:it's like any other online account.
Speaker:Just like if you're buying at Amazon more or less,
Speaker:you can create your account almost the same simple way.
Speaker:So if your shopper online,
Speaker:all this stuff will be so easy for you.
Speaker:And don't be afraid of it.
Speaker:People want to see where they're going or they want to
Speaker:see the product or see you make the product,
Speaker:whatever, you know,
Speaker:whatever platform you want to do.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:YouTube really helps.
Speaker:So is it,
Speaker:is it it's kind of your,
Speaker:are you always doing the videos or do you have other
Speaker:employees doing videos that working Well,
Speaker:I usually have other people do the aspects of working with
Speaker:the dog.
Speaker:I'm usually doing all the videos.
Speaker:My husband can do the videos.
Speaker:Now I've trained him that he can,
Speaker:some of the employees kind of are learning to hold the
Speaker:camera a little slower,
Speaker:so they don't move it too fast and stuff.
Speaker:And it's always video your prime method.
Speaker:Like you're not doing blog articles or anything like that.
Speaker:It's mostly video and you're bringing that over to Facebook so
Speaker:people can see that.
Speaker:And that's it.
Speaker:Right. And I have some pictures on Pinterest.
Speaker:I do a little bit of Instagram.
Speaker:I have a lot of tweets going out the videos,
Speaker:go on a tweets.
Speaker:I connect them with a lot of it too.
Speaker:I have my YouTube.
Speaker:So it can go out to LinkedIn and silver other formats
Speaker:too. When I want to show something like a training class
Speaker:and we're opening a new one starting up,
Speaker:you want to see one,
Speaker:one was like before.
Speaker:So I would post something like that once in a while
Speaker:in LinkedIn.
Speaker:So I use the video and all the other social media
Speaker:platforms, because I'm not a good writer.
Speaker:If I could write,
Speaker:I'd be right in blogs because I've got a lot of
Speaker:experience. I know the topics,
Speaker:but I read a show.
Speaker:You then write it.
Speaker:Well, and video is so much better than the written Word
Speaker:right now.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:everyone, Facebook,
Speaker:everything is favoring video now live streaming and video.
Speaker:So you're right on target with what the hot item is
Speaker:these days.
Speaker:Oh, well that's good news.
Speaker:So talk to us about a time when there was a
Speaker:struggle within the business,
Speaker:either the business overall,
Speaker:or as you were getting up to speed with social media
Speaker:and computers and all that.
Speaker:Well, right before I left the post office,
Speaker:the business was a,
Speaker:well, they said the recession was like 2008.
Speaker:Well, yeah,
Speaker:it, we had less customers.
Speaker:So we ran a tighter budget to compensate.
Speaker:We just blamed it all the economy's bad.
Speaker:So we're not going people.
Speaker:Aren't traveling.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:the housing industry,
Speaker:all our blue collar,
Speaker:people are not vacationing.
Speaker:We blamed it on all that.
Speaker:And it was not that it was the phone book.
Speaker:Nobody was using a phone book and that's all we were
Speaker:using or a couple newspaper ads.
Speaker:So when the internet broke in and I,
Speaker:I decided I had to do it because the younger people
Speaker:were doing it.
Speaker:And they were being found when you Googled them.
Speaker:And we weren't anywhere to be found.
Speaker:I says,
Speaker:this is,
Speaker:I've got to do this.
Speaker:Or you might as well close your doors when they stop
Speaker:coming. It's not because we didn't do the service and we
Speaker:didn't do a good job.
Speaker:They didn't know we were here.
Speaker:Right. So we had to,
Speaker:that was the biggest thing was,
Speaker:people need to know you're there.
Speaker:They need to know your current with what they want as
Speaker:things change because the dog industry believe it or not.
Speaker:Pet industry changes very fast.
Speaker:It didn't years ago,
Speaker:but now it does.
Speaker:They want to have the California dog,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:what does that mean?
Speaker:What does the California dog mean?
Speaker:You go out to dinner with your dog at the restaurant
Speaker:now and on a patio year at the beach with them,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:there's swim dates,
Speaker:there's play dates for your pets.
Speaker:There's massages.
Speaker:There's spa day,
Speaker:peppermint, BAS blueberry,
Speaker:facials. I mean,
Speaker:there's all this stuff that you could do for your pet
Speaker:that that Think about,
Speaker:can I live there too?
Speaker:Blueberry facial.
Speaker:It's just what they want for their pet,
Speaker:with what you have for yourself.
Speaker:People want that for their pets now,
Speaker:believe it or not.
Speaker:And we're going to make sure we find out where we
Speaker:can get it done for them.
Speaker:If we can't do it ourselves,
Speaker:outsource it.
Speaker:Well, give biz listeners,
Speaker:this is another good point that I just want to continue
Speaker:to reinforce is over time.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:hopefully we all start businesses that are going to last for
Speaker:years, right?
Speaker:But over time,
Speaker:businesses change,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I just recently in my hometown,
Speaker:we're seeing a first shop that's been here forever,
Speaker:shuttering their doors.
Speaker:Why that's not really something that people are as interested in
Speaker:in this day and age,
Speaker:I need more,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:the, you know,
Speaker:all the natural and the green and all of that,
Speaker:doesn't really equate to people.
Speaker:Having firs,
Speaker:Janet's talking about how everything's changing with her industry.
Speaker:And she had to evolve to stay relevant,
Speaker:same thing for us,
Speaker:for all of our industries.
Speaker:I don't care what you're doing.
Speaker:You need to really be watching and make those pivots with
Speaker:your industry.
Speaker:So that you're always right on top of the trends,
Speaker:staying timely with whatever your product is,
Speaker:whatever the colors are,
Speaker:whatever the styles are,
Speaker:if that relates to your product tastes,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:if you're a Baker,
Speaker:all that type of thing,
Speaker:you have to be very conscious and make changes as you
Speaker:go your business even of six months ago,
Speaker:or year ago might not be as relevant as what's currently
Speaker:happening today.
Speaker:So you need to stay on top of what's going on.
Speaker:Would you say anything else about that,
Speaker:Janet? You know what?
Speaker:You got the truth,
Speaker:join a chamber,
Speaker:meet the other business.
Speaker:People you'll see the ones that are making it and the
Speaker:ones that are struggling and they're good at what they do,
Speaker:but they haven't kept up with the social media and the
Speaker:internet. That's the only thing that they left out and they're
Speaker:their businesses going to the wayside.
Speaker:So, you know,
Speaker:chambers can share their,
Speaker:their information with you,
Speaker:to the business people,
Speaker:if they're prosperous,
Speaker:you're going to prosper to see you got to help each
Speaker:other. So I just loved meeting the people,
Speaker:the business people they never got to meet years ago,
Speaker:working at the post office.
Speaker:I was so secluded from that.
Speaker:So I'm learning now to w what they're successful in,
Speaker:what they're not,
Speaker:and what businesses within the chamber can help you grow yours.
Speaker:Yeah. All right.
Speaker:So, Janet,
Speaker:this is a perfect segue into us talking about what you
Speaker:do with that super exciting networking event that you have going
Speaker:on. So I want you to take it from the top
Speaker:and tell Neil,
Speaker:fill all of our listeners in on what you're doing.
Speaker:My biggest advertising and social event that helps in is a
Speaker:multi-state mixer.
Speaker:I went to other people's mixers for two years before I
Speaker:plan my first one.
Speaker:And I saw everything.
Speaker:I liked everything I wanted to add.
Speaker:Somethings that weren't so good.
Speaker:And when we created it,
Speaker:it was to tell you the truth.
Speaker:It was a good success.
Speaker:There was at least 150 people there.
Speaker:All right,
Speaker:let's start.
Speaker:What, so what made you decide in the very beginning that
Speaker:you were even going to do this?
Speaker:You were going to all these other events who would think
Speaker:as a kennel,
Speaker:that you would want to do a mixer.
Speaker:Where did that thinking come from?
Speaker:Well, I was hesitant because you,
Speaker:you serve food and everything else.
Speaker:We have a training hall.
Speaker:So I had to make sure that if there's food,
Speaker:that they had to think that they weren't in a kennel
Speaker:eating food.
Speaker:And I had to say,
Speaker:what's going to draw on there.
Speaker:So you had to have raffles,
Speaker:and then you had to have people that wanted to meet.
Speaker:So by may belying to all these chambers and going to
Speaker:all events,
Speaker:I met all these hundreds of people that are in the
Speaker:most unique businesses you ever could imagine.
Speaker:So by the promise of them meeting people outside of their
Speaker:own little chamber,
Speaker:they were kind of excited about that.
Speaker:So I did use Facebook,
Speaker:Facebook events,
Speaker:email, constant contact.
Speaker:I'd sent out,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:flyers through there and invite them and tell them they were
Speaker:going to meet somebody.
Speaker:Hopefully at the end of this event,
Speaker:only two hours,
Speaker:we would serve them,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:some drinks and food.
Speaker:And we had a chef serving them.
Speaker:It wasn't just hors d'oeuvres on the side.
Speaker:And it just grew from there.
Speaker:So every year has gotten bigger.
Speaker:I think this last one was 300 people and it's free
Speaker:for them.
Speaker:They don't have to pay a thing.
Speaker:And now some of the vendors,
Speaker:they want to be sponsors because they're in front of an
Speaker:audience of business people instead of paying for,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:an expo and a booth and a lot of giveaways.
Speaker:Now they're giving away something to show their service with.
Speaker:Somebody probably could use them as a business.
Speaker:So you do that as a raffle or a silent auction,
Speaker:or what are you thinking with that?
Speaker:They serve the food or the rental equipment at the chairs
Speaker:table. So you don't have to pay to put on there.
Speaker:They're helping out with,
Speaker:it's still,
Speaker:I have a budget,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:they have to meet there,
Speaker:but as it grows and you want it,
Speaker:and this is a red carpet affair.
Speaker:We have Rick carpets,
Speaker:or we have the logos on the floor from maiden vinyl.
Speaker:This is,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:limos, bring the executives.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:this is a real,
Speaker:we want to serve our people the way they deserve to
Speaker:be as a business person.
Speaker:And then the plus for me,
Speaker:they see my location.
Speaker:And if they want to tour the kennel later,
Speaker:they can,
Speaker:I don't even have a chance to talk about my business.
Speaker:We're so busy.
Speaker:We had 30 raffles to raffle off somewhere golf,
Speaker:outings, Cubs,
Speaker:tickets, all different things.
Speaker:So people can be a part of it.
Speaker:So people would remember them that they were there.
Speaker:So it's getting to be one of the most popular events
Speaker:out here in McHenry County,
Speaker:Tres ed multi-state.
Speaker:And it brings in 300 plus people.
Speaker:And once a once a year,
Speaker:Once a year is all we can.
Speaker:Right? If you had all your Fort,
Speaker:yeah. Are you able to equate it to increase business?
Speaker:Oh yes.
Speaker:By far,
Speaker:if those people themselves don't have a dog or have a
Speaker:need for our kennel or training,
Speaker:they always have a friend.
Speaker:They know.
Speaker:So they've made so many referrals saying I've been there,
Speaker:I've seen the place,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:that the kennels gorgeous,
Speaker:the people have experienced and it's worth the drive if it's
Speaker:not in your backyard.
Speaker:So I get it from the referrals that they know where
Speaker:I'm at.
Speaker:My town is only 832 people.
Speaker:So for me to be successful,
Speaker:I've had to reach outside of my little town.
Speaker:So that's why there's no limit.
Speaker:Right? We've talked before,
Speaker:give business listeners about the power of communities.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:if you're a shop,
Speaker:you can bring in a group of people surrounded,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:with a common interest of the product of your shop,
Speaker:but maybe you do book clubs or knitting events,
Speaker:or, you know,
Speaker:whatever relates to your business.
Speaker:This is so interesting because she's bringing people in.
Speaker:Many of them probably don't even have animals right yet,
Speaker:but they're coming in,
Speaker:they're coming in for a networking event because of the show
Speaker:that she puts on.
Speaker:You're listening to her,
Speaker:the red carpet and,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:limos and all of that.
Speaker:So it's clearly a talked about event and it's continued to
Speaker:grow over the course of time.
Speaker:How many years have you put this on now,
Speaker:four years now we have only four years,
Speaker:only four years.
Speaker:Would you give any advice to someone who is considering starting
Speaker:an event?
Speaker:Like think back to that very first one and what would
Speaker:be some advice if someone wanted to start something,
Speaker:not even on a hundred,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:some people don't have the space,
Speaker:right? You're lucky to have space,
Speaker:to be able to accommodate that.
Speaker:But even if you're going to do 20 or 30 people,
Speaker:what type of advice would you give somebody who's thinking about
Speaker:doing that?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:first support your business.
Speaker:People. If they're having mixers,
Speaker:support them by going to it and that they can count
Speaker:on you,
Speaker:then they're going to return,
Speaker:come to yours to support you.
Speaker:You have to give,
Speaker:you have to give before you get.
Speaker:So not only did I learn by going to them,
Speaker:it was supporting them that somebody showed up for their mixer
Speaker:and supported their business and wanting to see it and share
Speaker:the experience and invite a friend to it and give them
Speaker:more exposure.
Speaker:And then you see how you can use that business network
Speaker:to invite people to yours.
Speaker:So they do come and to find out what is going
Speaker:to be to make them interested in coming,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:is it going to be the location?
Speaker:Is it going to be,
Speaker:your business is going to be you you're selling you.
Speaker:You are the business.
Speaker:And then you can never forget that this is what brings
Speaker:the people out.
Speaker:You have to support them.
Speaker:They'll support you.
Speaker:Did you do any,
Speaker:do you collect email addresses there?
Speaker:Or how does the process work?
Speaker:Like how do you know how many people are coming?
Speaker:And I count the business cards because when you do come
Speaker:in, that's all we ask you to do is to put
Speaker:a business card.
Speaker:And the bowl for the,
Speaker:the raffles are all free,
Speaker:but we pull a business card and any businesses invited,
Speaker:you don't have to be a chamber member at this event,
Speaker:but you have to be a business.
Speaker:So if you have a business card,
Speaker:that's your ticket in,
Speaker:put it in the bowl.
Speaker:If your name gets picked,
Speaker:you win that raffle.
Speaker:And I can count those business cards at the end of
Speaker:the night,
Speaker:I have those.
Speaker:So that's more or less what I do.
Speaker:And I invite them for the following year.
Speaker:And then do you do so you put them on some
Speaker:type of an email list so that you have them for
Speaker:the night.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:And that's all I use them for is for the,
Speaker:a mixer invite.
Speaker:So you,
Speaker:okay. So,
Speaker:so, and they know that by entering into the raffle,
Speaker:they're not going to get on this email list where they're
Speaker:going to start getting all these emails,
Speaker:because a lot of these folks don't have dolls.
Speaker:Right? Exactly.
Speaker:That's why I don't want to end date them with that
Speaker:because they remember this mixer so much,
Speaker:they don't need to have emails to border dog or anything.
Speaker:If they want you,
Speaker:they're going to come.
Speaker:If they,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:if they want to give me the business.
Speaker:So it's,
Speaker:sometimes you don't have to,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:collect all of that.
Speaker:If you can give them something,
Speaker:they can remember,
Speaker:you buy you like your customers when they're happy,
Speaker:your customers are always going to return.
Speaker:So this is what you want to do.
Speaker:You want to give first and you're going to receive,
Speaker:I think that's part of our success was the mixer.
Speaker:And having other people meet people so they could make money
Speaker:and make that contact.
Speaker:If the people around you are successful,
Speaker:money's going to flow throughout all of them.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:You're absolutely right.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So Janet three tips,
Speaker:if you think this is,
Speaker:might be interesting for you and your business is one first
Speaker:give before you get,
Speaker:go out and support other people's events,
Speaker:be visible in your community.
Speaker:Number two is use your networking connections because you have been
Speaker:out and about to different chambers and other events.
Speaker:And those are people then that you can invite in,
Speaker:but you need to invite them in with a purpose,
Speaker:something that's going to be valuable to them.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:time now is our most valuable commodity,
Speaker:right? So spending time anywhere needs to serve a valuable purpose
Speaker:in their mind.
Speaker:So Jen's talking about that and then finally collect the contact
Speaker:information. And in her case,
Speaker:it's business cards that she's using so that they know about
Speaker:the event for the next year.
Speaker:And it continues to build and build.
Speaker:I would suggest depending on what your event is like is
Speaker:you may also put them on some type of an email
Speaker:campaign. It just depends on how you're structuring everything.
Speaker:But we often talk about how do you collect addresses with
Speaker:their consent to be put on some type of a communication
Speaker:schedule. So,
Speaker:great, great information,
Speaker:Janet. I really appreciate your sharing.
Speaker:All of that with us.
Speaker:I'd like to roll now into our reflection section.
Speaker:This is a look at you in a little bit of
Speaker:a different way in terms of what you're doing throughout your
Speaker:day to be successful.
Speaker:If there was one trait that you would say,
Speaker:this is the one that's helped me be so resourceful,
Speaker:learn the computer,
Speaker:know about networking,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:all things that have been so great that we've been discussing.
Speaker:What would that trait be?
Speaker:Fear of failure.
Speaker:I will do anything to prove that I won't fail.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:whether it's my marriage or job,
Speaker:or that's why I was devastated when they let me go
Speaker:at the post office,
Speaker:but I wasn't going to fail.
Speaker:And the business too,
Speaker:it was faltering a little bit.
Speaker:My husband has the same attitude.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:he probably would have worked himself to death trying to figure
Speaker:out how to bring customers in,
Speaker:but he didn't leave the property to know marketing changed.
Speaker:I was wanting to see that marketing changed,
Speaker:right. Would say he worked hard and,
Speaker:and as hard as he has been the whole time,
Speaker:but it didn't make a difference.
Speaker:It's the times changed.
Speaker:The marketing plans changed.
Speaker:And that's the only thing that kept us from failing.
Speaker:So Really important to know.
Speaker:Yeah, that's great.
Speaker:I love that fear of failure.
Speaker:So I would not have expected you to say that.
Speaker:So it's really interesting.
Speaker:What tool do you use regularly to help keep productive or
Speaker:to create some type of balance?
Speaker:Oh, just the,
Speaker:the chambers going out and socializing with people and seeing what's
Speaker:happening in the neighborhood keeps my sanity.
Speaker:If I'm at home or at the business,
Speaker:I'm on the computer continually too.
Speaker:My eyes are burnt out,
Speaker:trying to figure out all the new stuff that's coming out
Speaker:and Googling to see what changes in the business or out
Speaker:there helping him.
Speaker:So he looks good in the video.
Speaker:Got it.
Speaker:And gives them what they want.
Speaker:Right. Wonderful.
Speaker:And you're a people person.
Speaker:So that probably energizes you,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:being around,
Speaker:rubbing shoulders with other people,
Speaker:seeing what else is out there,
Speaker:I'm shy,
Speaker:but I still want to be with people.
Speaker:So You do not come across as shy in any way,
Speaker:shape or form.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I've only met you once or twice now,
Speaker:but you don't seem to be shy at all.
Speaker:Well, I didn't even know how to introduce myself when I
Speaker:went in and mixer was I'm Janet,
Speaker:I own account,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:well, I don't have a dog and they'd walk away.
Speaker:Do you know how many times that happened to me going
Speaker:to me?
Speaker:And I kept pushing myself,
Speaker:pushing myself,
Speaker:but I found somebody that helped me do a tagline.
Speaker:So sometimes you have to go outside for that help when
Speaker:you're not as creative as you think you are.
Speaker:Right. And it sure helped me.
Speaker:It gave me more confidence and it polished it up a
Speaker:little bit And kudos to you for continually going out there,
Speaker:even though you are uncomfortable with it,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:just knowing that that was what you needed to do.
Speaker:And now I bet when you go to these chambers or
Speaker:other networking events,
Speaker:they know you.
Speaker:So it's now it's probably really easy.
Speaker:It's easier.
Speaker:It's still a struggle for me.
Speaker:My mother had the talent of going in a crowd and,
Speaker:and being successful with strangers.
Speaker:I still have to struggle with it,
Speaker:but it's much easier with the tools that I've learned to
Speaker:use to get me through it.
Speaker:Good. So you just do it cause you know,
Speaker:it's worth it.
Speaker:Well, You're doing too.
Speaker:I do enjoy it.
Speaker:Cause The introductions are one thing.
Speaker:And then the conversations on the side are totally separate thing.
Speaker:Right? So they both are there.
Speaker:Is there a book that you've read lately that you think
Speaker:our customers would find value in?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:Elena McKenna was a good friend of mine.
Speaker:She's part of BNI.
Speaker:And I don't even remember the name of the book.
Speaker:It was,
Speaker:I read it in spurts,
Speaker:but she was good at networking.
Speaker:One of the best people I've ever seen network to.
Speaker:Sometimes if you read some of the books on network and
Speaker:helps you,
Speaker:if you're struggling with that introduction and struggling on the followup,
Speaker:do you have a business to do a follow-up fifth grade,
Speaker:you have to follow up.
Speaker:So it teaches you a lot and it gives you a
Speaker:lot more competent and it grows your business.
Speaker:So a good resource for really learning how to network the
Speaker:right way.
Speaker:Yes. Okay.
Speaker:I will Google what this book is and we'll put it
Speaker:in here for sure.
Speaker:Okay. All right.
Speaker:Wonderful. And give biz listeners just as you're listening to the
Speaker:podcast today,
Speaker:you can also listen to audio books with ease.
Speaker:I've teamed up with audible for you to be able to
Speaker:get a book,
Speaker:just like Elena.
Speaker:McKenna's for free.
Speaker:If you haven't done so already,
Speaker:all you need to do is go to gift biz,
Speaker:book.com and make a selection.
Speaker:That's gift biz,
Speaker:book.com. All right,
Speaker:Janet. I'd like now to offer you to dare to dream,
Speaker:I want to present you with a virtual gift.
Speaker:It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.
Speaker:So this is your dream or your goal of almost unreachable
Speaker:Heights that you would wish to obtain.
Speaker:Please accept this gift and open it in our presence.
Speaker:What is inside your box?
Speaker:It is a sky blue Pomeranian.
Speaker:Oh, I have a Palm keep going.
Speaker:Really? I do.
Speaker:Yeah. You know,
Speaker:in 1991,
Speaker:I went out to California and I saw blue Pomeranians and
Speaker:they weren't the gray color.
Speaker:They like seriously blue,
Speaker:blue, seriously blue.
Speaker:What shade of blue?
Speaker:She had a Navy blue.
Speaker:She had a sky blue.
Speaker:No. Yes.
Speaker:And you know,
Speaker:that's why they have Fox is so important because if you
Speaker:haven't seen it,
Speaker:you think I'm crazy.
Speaker:If I didn't have another breeder friend with me to back
Speaker:it up,
Speaker:that she saw it too.
Speaker:It was fabulous.
Speaker:And when you do the history of those exotic colors in
Speaker:England, the amount of numbers of dogs you had to breed
Speaker:to get that color was just astronomical.
Speaker:You need six generations of blue on both sides to get
Speaker:maybe one out of a hundred puppies born to be sky
Speaker:blue or Royal blue or blue and that gray.
Speaker:Wow. I Bet they are super expensive too.
Speaker:Yes. And they're hard to find.
Speaker:Yeah. They're hard to find Very,
Speaker:I'm going to have to Google that now,
Speaker:too. You probably peaked all of our listeners curiosity.
Speaker:Like really Skyblue Pomeranian.
Speaker:Everybody you'll have to check it out.
Speaker:Oh boy.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So if people were interested in knowing more about the kennel,
Speaker:where's the best place online that you would direct them?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:just dog group,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:just Google it like your website or the,
Speaker:or just Google dog boarding.
Speaker:Okay. Whatever,
Speaker:telling you why to do it.
Speaker:And I should come up on a first or second page
Speaker:all done to kennels and you can see the website or
Speaker:you can go to the videos either or,
Speaker:Okay. All right.
Speaker:Super and give as listeners.
Speaker:As you know,
Speaker:with every episode,
Speaker:there is an accompanying show notes page and there we will
Speaker:have the website,
Speaker:the YouTube links,
Speaker:social media links,
Speaker:everything. So you'll be able to check it out.
Speaker:And maybe if I can find a fun picture of a
Speaker:sky blue Pomeranian,
Speaker:maybe I should just put it up there for everybody to
Speaker:see. Yes.
Speaker:Do that.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So Janet,
Speaker:I really,
Speaker:really appreciate all the information that you've given us today.
Speaker:A little bit of a different look.
Speaker:I think it is super cool.
Speaker:How you were able to go from seriously yellow pages marketing
Speaker:in 2010 to where you are today in such a short
Speaker:time, kudos to you,
Speaker:really an applause that is fabulous.
Speaker:And I really appreciate your sharing.
Speaker:Not only that,
Speaker:but all of the networking information.
Speaker:Think it might have sparked some ideas for people here.
Speaker:So you've paid it forward to help other people with their
Speaker:businesses today.
Speaker:For sure.
Speaker:So I appreciate it.
Speaker:And continued success to you,
Speaker:Janet with Alden's kennels.
Speaker:Thank you so much,
Speaker:Sue. It has been exciting and I hope somebody can appreciate
Speaker:the struggle and there is success at the end of it.
Speaker:If you can just don't give up,
Speaker:I think.
Speaker:Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker:And you've helped towards that end for sure.
Speaker:May your candle always burn bright.