Just as our parents made choices that affected us, so too do we have the opportunity to set the narrative for those we bring into the world. My guest this week, Sabrina Victoria, was raised as a Jehovah's Witness, with no preparation for life outside of that world. As a single mom, determined to escape a 13-year narcissistic abusive relationship, Sabrina displayed a tenacity and optimistic spirit that has inspired fans worldwide and helped endless amounts of people break through and discover their own untapped talents and immense potential. Here, I sit down with the creator and CEO of Human Better 365, a human transformation company, creator of the Her Version Podcast and founder of Her Nation Community, speaker, entrepreneur and author, Sabrina Victoria. And we have A LOT of laughs through the darkness. Because Truth Tastes Funny.

Chapter Markers:

00:00 - Aliens & Deities

03:12 - From G-d Loving to Boy Crazy

09:00 - Single Motherhood & Kingdom Hall: "Good Job, Sabrina!"

14:00 - Frickin' Chaos & An Escape Plan

19:00 - Showing Up Every Day (and Getting Sh*t On)

22:00 - I Will Survive - and Escape

28:00 - Fading

30:34 - Human Better 365

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/sabrinavictoria/

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Sabrina Victoria - Final Transcript

[00:00:26] Hersh Rephun: Welcome to the Truth Tastes funny podcast. I am your host v repo, and if my guests can handle the truth, so can you open wide folks? Here it comes.

[00:01:05] Hersh Rephun: The operative thing is what do we do with it? How do we handle. And just watching some of Sabrina's posts on social media made my day yesterday, so she's here to no pressure, but to make our day and welcome Sabrina to Truth tastes funny.

[00:01:31] Sabrina Victoria: My brain immediately went to aliens because for the past two days I've just been submerge. Because of this whole Joe Biden thing with aliens. I've never thought about aliens or talked about aliens or thought nothing, but I'm like, lemme just look up some alien shit. I don't even know. So I've got all of this alien conspiracy theory in my head right now.

[00:01:51] Hersh Rephun: It was so funny. So you went right to the extraterrestrial transformations, by the way, how our minds work. That isn't a bad, you know, [00:02:00] thinking ahead maybe a year or so in the future it might, the introduction might go like, You know, Sabrina works with humans. She works with extraterrestrials.

[00:02:30] Hersh Rephun: There you go. And so by my standards where I come from, I'm kind of a baby. So

[00:02:38] Hersh Rephun: age. Yeah. And we usually lose the stutter around 4,000 years. Oh my God. That's where the stutter goes away. So we can start this conversation wherever you like. If you wanna start it, you know, at this moment in.

[00:03:10] Hersh Rephun: We can go wherever we want and we can wear costumes too

[00:03:38] Sabrina Victoria: And then all hell broke loose for myself and my family. Right around 20. I ended up pregnant with no husband, emphasis on the no husband. And because of that I was completely what's called disfellowshiped or disassociated. From my entire family and my entire community and basically [00:04:00] everything that I had ever known, I was basically just kind of thrown out, totally naive to the world, totally, absolutely no adulting skills whatsoever, and led the stereotypical single mom life of broke.

[00:04:41] Sabrina Victoria: Soon after that, I ended up in a very toxic relationship. Let's just put it lightly. It was 13 years of a nightmare. Basically, I was, uh, shown this bright, shiny object of money, which is the one thing that I was missing in my life. So I thought at that point, [00:05:00] and I was showed. Dream of building an empire and living with somebody and everything being taken care of.

[00:05:30] Sabrina Victoria: Double tripled, quadrupled over the course of time and eight years in, I'm on the floor in the bathroom having a total breakdown. Just like, I don't know if you have ever had this happen to you or any of your listeners, but just like everything in your body, just feeling as if it is coming out through your tears and screams and cries, and I'm on the floor.

[00:06:17] Sabrina Victoria: Everything except for physical abuse. And I recognized that I had no voice, no power, no. And I was extremely co-dependent, had very high empathetic vibes, had no boundaries, and I dove head first into personal development. I researched everything I could find my hands on. I opened up a secret bank account, a secret storage unit, and over the course of four years, I was able to start three online businesses.

[00:06:55] Hersh Rephun: Yeah. Wow. Wow. And I knew some [00:07:00] of that from, you know, just background and looking you up and stuff, but Wow, just to hear that is like, I can totally picture it. And while I obviously don't have the same exact life, I know those moments where there just isn't any answer in that moment because this is past, having looked for the answer now, it'ss like, oh my God, what is happening?

[00:07:52] Hersh Rephun: I'm not sure, but she is just amazing in it, and I'm mentioning it in the context of this conversation because I [00:08:00] think people who are interested in this conversation and who have relate in some way to what you went through and what you know, what your path. We'll get where this is coming from and you should definitely watch it, but you may, you empowered yourself to now, one thing that I'm curious about is what was, you know, the whole concept of family kind of cutting you off.

[00:08:51] Hersh Rephun: It's just not possible. But that said, it's like, so what was your awareness of the world [00:09:00] like? What was your exposure to the world at large? Clearly it was somehow limited. By your upbringing, right? Yeah. So maybe just backtrack a little bit to that moment where you get cut

[00:09:26] Sabrina Victoria: The answer to every single question that you could possibly have within that association or within that religion. Bring it to God and God has all the answers. And that was, I think, was one of the mis biggest missteps with my story that was so heartbreaking for me, was there was a point, you know, when I first left, my son's father was in the picture, so he actually came and got me from my parents' house.

[00:10:15] Sabrina Victoria: And within a very short amount of time, maybe two or three months, they sit down and they have. The elders or the governing body or the, the people that run the place basically sit down with people who are sinners or who have been disfellowshiped and they say like, Hey, you're doing a good job, or, Hey, you need to work on this, or, Hey, we're noticing this, or we're noticing that.

[00:10:52] Sabrina Victoria: However, one thing, we can't have you plain house with your son's father. You need to [00:11:00] either marry your son's father or. Break up with your son's father. You can't be doing this whole back and forth thing. So me just so desperate for my family back, my community back, my relationship back with God, and just feeling like such a horrible, gross sinner thought that me praying, right?

[00:11:48] Sabrina Victoria: I mean, we were both broke. So how is he supposed to like help me financially and then also live his life separately? What I was expecting from God, [00:12:00] Everything silly. It was so silly. So he left and he just skipped town and never paid me a dime. Literally never paid me a dime. And I'm sitting in my apartment with a baby working minimum wage job, trying to do all of the things on the floor, praying to God, cuz that's the only answer is God.

[00:12:32] Hersh Rephun: Yeah. Yeah. And it's also hard to, you know, the, the whole, the whole, a lot of, you know, religions have this built into it for some reason, and I draw a very distinct line between my perception of God and religion.

[00:13:15] Hersh Rephun: I've been in pr, I know what spin is. And so I know what a, what spinning is. I know what a bullshit artist is and I know what a snake oil salesman is. I know what all those things are. Yeah. So those are human things. Yep. That's not a what a God does. Yep. And so the idea that, you know, God has all the answers is what somebody is telling us, not what God is showing us.

[00:14:05] Sabrina Victoria: next fricking just chaos.

[00:14:27] Sabrina Victoria: Yeah. Yeah. Like I actually was like finally my prayers and it wound up being the devil. Mm-hmm. Like for real, Absolut. Nightmare. An absolute

[00:14:56] Hersh Rephun: Yeah. And your son. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So, and how old was [00:15:00] your son at this point? He's a teenager. He's

[00:15:21] Hersh Rephun: Right. Yeah.

[00:15:30] Sabrina Victoria: where are we living? We're in Florida, south Florida. Of

[00:15:47] Hersh Rephun: Yeah. They don't have a lot of change in the topography there, but there's just a lot of weird things that can happen in Florida. 100%. Um, yeah. So, okay. So what was your move at that? [00:16:00]

[00:16:13] Sabrina Victoria: It's very fearful, especially if you're leaving on your own. You know, baby daddy is not in the picture. This is all I'm hanging onto my relationship with my parents is all Ray. And you're feeling very alone. You're feeling super isolated. So when I first started on this journey of collecting money, uh, I did, you know, anything and everything of my first thing was like a little eBay account.

[00:16:52] Sabrina Victoria: Yay. It didn't go like that. Yeah. So when I hit the 6,000 mark I got, I started to get a little bit of an ego [00:17:00] and I was like, holy crap. Like, look at me. I'm like doing stuff. I'm making stuff happen. I couldn't believe because I was been told every single. From 0.1 to point from A to B that I was dumb and stupid in no college education and I would never make it.

[00:17:38] Sabrina Victoria: I left my bank account open on my computer for like one second Too long. Yeah. And he saw the money and he literally flipped, flipped the fuck out. And my little $200 a week allowance that he would give me for groceries, gas, whatever he's to, he stopped paying me that weekly amount, right? So that $6,000 got washed out immediately [00:18:00] while I'm still working.

[00:18:20] Sabrina Victoria: I hit. $13,000. About a year and a half later, I call up my son's father and I'm like, Hey, listen, I'm leaving. I'm out. I just wanted let you know. I'm super scared. I don't know what to expect. He's like, yeah, sure. I got your back. No problem. I'll watch my your, you know our son whenever you need me to, I'm there for you.

[00:18:59] Sabrina Victoria: That [00:19:00] would be fantastic if you took him on a camping trip. Long story short, he never returned him from the camping trip. He freaking stole. Yeah, he just took 'em. So I had to get a lawyer involved. We had emergency corridors. He was fighting for full custody. Didn't tell me where he was living, like moved in with his girlfriend.

[00:19:39] Sabrina Victoria: God hates me. Like what is going on? I'm doing all the things. I'm showing up. I'm being positive. I have an optimistic attitude. I'm being a great mother. I'm being healthy. I'm working my ass off. I'm doing all of the things that, all of the books Tony Robbins tells me to show up at a hundred percent all the time and all the things.

[00:20:18] Sabrina Victoria: Mm-hmm. He's not like punching me in the face or anything. It's just like, it's just mental and emotional. Yeah, and verbal and sexual abuse all the time, every day. But like stuff that I could just zone out. I can zone out during sex. I can like leave my body during sex, you know? It's. So I had to have this hard conversation with myself in the car, I have this document for child support or child custody that's like 18 pages long that cost me 18 grand, a thousand dollars per page, and I'm banging on my car.

[00:21:15] Sabrina Victoria: Watch Ricky Lake, reruns of Ricky Lake for the rest of the, yeah. I made a decision that I would continue to work and continue to. To leave this relationship until the day I died, because I never, ever, ever wanted there to be a what if. Mm-hmm. I never wanted to think back to myself 20 years later when I'm 50 years old, thinking to myself, The nightmare that I am living in.

[00:22:06] Sabrina Victoria: And plus my weekly play, plus my three businesses were rolling. I became an expert in all of the areas and within one year I was able to collect $31,000. Yeah. And with that $31,000 is how I wound up leaving that situation. And I think that it's so important to know that backend of that story, because people fail one time and they're like, Or two times and they're like, oh, and this is with everything.

[00:22:49] Hersh Rephun: and then that's it. Yeah. Well, you're a big proponent of, uh, you know, what's the big deal?

[00:23:22] Hersh Rephun: I remember when, when I was a little kid and my parents didn't really spank me, but my. Would threaten me or scare me into like, I would think he was gonna spank me and his voice was so booming and he was ch like walking through the house to get me that, the fear of whatever was gonna happen, just scared the shit out of me so that I would be sorry for what I did without ever ha having a, a, a.

[00:24:19] Hersh Rephun: If you didn't have that one, if you didn't have these mistakes that you went through and these incidents that. You wouldn't have learned anything, you know, from them. So if you would've gotten a luckier break, let's say you might have lost bigger in another, in another circumstance, what was going on? So at the end of this legal tra, did you get custody of your son?

[00:24:46] Sabrina Victoria: that, everything stayed the same. He just then had to pay child. Yeah. So, you know, he had 'em every, my son's now 19 years old. Yeah. But you know, he had 'em every other weekend and had to then pay, he hadn't paid any child support up to that point, so [00:25:00] he actually kind of screwed himself. Yeah.

[00:25:30] Sabrina Victoria: And must have been a

[00:25:34] Sabrina Victoria: wasn't there. I still have it. Yes. Yeah, it was a, a very nice bicycle. A hundred percent. But yeah, I mean, it was, The best feeling ever to step into mine. To step into my power, my money, my confidence, my voice, and finally have ownership over my future.

[00:26:01] Hersh Rephun: What was, you're obviously, you're always kind of on the edge of survival, so the goal is often survival, but were you thinking bigger than Surviv?

[00:26:41] Sabrina Victoria: We were running six different offices in four different states and had the world at our fingertips as far as money goes. And that was my vision. So my, I'm like, I'm always bigger and bigger and bigger. Just where are you now? How can we [00:27:00] take a step up and where can, and I think that that's just in me. I think just naturally, I'm just naturally a visionary.

[00:27:24] Hersh Rephun: Well, that's a fascinating thing because what it shows us is that your family didn't give themselves the opportunity to see.

[00:27:47] Sabrina Victoria: Yeah. I got, I wound up getting reinstated when I was, it's all may believe so, like, oh, thank

[00:27:57] Sabrina Victoria: it's, yeah, but reinstated, [00:28:00] well, my son was maybe, Yeah, somewhere around there.

[00:28:24] Sabrina Victoria: Out of what? The religion. So you just kind of. You know, you go, but then you don't go, and then you go and then you come. And

[00:28:32] Sabrina Victoria: have. Yeah, it's called fading. Fading. Well, they don't, that's not them. That's the people who are already out. That's like's not their choice. Yeah, that's our, like the people, the ex Jehovah's Witnesses have their own verbiage for that, and that's called fading.

[00:29:02] Sabrina Victoria: So I'm like a hundred percent not interested.

[00:29:33] Hersh Rephun: Yeah. It's any religion that involves people has, is. It has this problem, you know, and I'm not a theologist, but I did grow up in, you know, the Jewish faith, and I was very, you know, I was very well educated in that thing. I went to Yeshiva all through my upbringing and, you know, and through college I'm, I, you know, I'm surprised I'm not smarter, but I definitely, you know, learned a lot of [00:30:00] stuff and I, and you know, I see both sides of a lot of different things.

[00:30:27] Hersh Rephun: Who are going through an inability to, to, to realize their potential. How would you.

[00:31:00] Sabrina Victoria: Yeah, to fix the thing. I mean, it all boils down to just where are you focusing? Where's your attention? Where's the time to fix the thing? So yes, helping 100%. And then it all goes back to power, confidence, voice stages, sales, and really helping people re. You know, their power, their power in themselves, their power in their companies, their power in their businesses, in their careers, and allowing people to step into who they are as a person.

[00:31:54] Sabrina Victoria: And I just don't think there's enough emphasis on like how to human, you know, we're taught all the things. We're [00:32:00] taught math and spelling and science, and if you don't use the right. Apostrophe with the right thing. You're like shamed. It's like, dude, do you know how to be a human? This is where every should be.

[00:32:30] Hersh Rephun: Whatever else. I mean, if penguins can learn how to warm and protect an egg over the gestation period, then why can't humans figure out how to, you know, u use a coffee maker?

[00:33:04] Hersh Rephun: Why? I know that there's that much room left in there, and this is what my brain decided to keep in there. But there's a song about that and it's, it's that they kind of live through time in these various lives. And Johnny Cash's line is something like, um, I may come back as this. I may come back of that, he says, or I may come back as a single drop of.

[00:33:48] Hersh Rephun: And then there are a lot of people out there who can coach and I don't know if. I, what do you think separates [00:34:00] what makes the right relationship between you and a client, let's say, or, oh, the you and the kind of person you can guide

[00:34:22] Sabrina Victoria: Yeah. I mean, it's so uncomfortable for people. I can't even tell you how many times I've, I have done initial interviews with people and I literally have to be like super uncomfortable, but like I. Probably can't do anything for you because they're not willing to take any suggestions. Everything has already did that.

[00:35:01] Sabrina Victoria: It always goes from, I can't, absolutely impossible to, how can I, I mean, there has to be a question of how can I do it right? Because if it's always like, I can't, impossible, there's no way, and you never even take a moment to think. Well, what if or how could I, or if I could, right, what would it look like?

[00:35:52] Sabrina Victoria: He would check phone records, he would check computer history. He, so when you wanna talk about being in a prison and absolutely no way [00:36:00] out, I could have very easily have been like, there's no way. Yeah. Like there's nothing possible that he had cameras in and out of work and his home. So like how do you possibly.

[00:36:35] Hersh Rephun: impossible. Impossible.

[00:36:59] Hersh Rephun: [00:37:00] You would, you might say to that client, you would say, okay, at this point the only thing we can do is open a company that called excuses. And you can run that company. No, that's not possible. It's not possible. Okay, so since this is our last session, you get your deposit back and that's the good news. I didn't give you a deposit.

[00:37:50] Hersh Rephun: Yeah. In order to get through anything, like I've had those difficult conversations with people who didn't find humor. It doesn't even matter if I'm on the, you know, [00:38:00] shitty end of the stick, you know, it doesn't matter. Yeah. If the person has a sense of humor, not obviously being a wi like an evil sense of humor, you know, has the humanity to have a sense of humor, then that makes everything go so much easier.

[00:38:27] Sabrina Victoria: we going big here? Are we able to be a visionary in this conversation?

[00:38:34] Sabrina Victoria: can. So my 12 year plan, which you know, is gonna go real fast. Yeah,

[00:38:45] Hersh Rephun: If it's a 12 year plan. Yeah. It doesn't have to take 12. But

[00:39:17] Sabrina Victoria: So HB 365, I want to buy middle school. So old used middle schools that are for sale. Purchase them, blow them out, revamp them into huge workshops, event centers, and huge auditoriums where we can have speakers. I want to make like a TEDx combined with Mind Valley. Where you can do it virtually or you can do it physically and you can actually come to a location, like a church-like atmosphere and you can see a speaker and you can learn something new.

[00:40:29] Sabrina Victoria: To help them level up as a human. So it's on, it's on track. You know, I'm gaining the people. I am doing the virtual right now, and in hopes of soon attaining enough financial backing to attain actual physical locations. To bring people together in community. That was the one thing that I was missing was community.

[00:41:17] Sabrina Victoria: You should be allowed a place to be despite, you know, the inner workings of what your belief system is on God. Atheist, agnostic, anything at all, alien. You should still have the opportunity to be around humans and learn how to do this thing better than the way that you're doing it.

[00:41:43] Hersh Rephun: That's huge. That's beautiful. And the, and the fact is that, well see, I think God would love that. Right? Yes. Thank you. Because that is, that encompasses all of these good things we're supposed to be doing for one another. Yep. [00:42:00] I. You know, standing on a street corner, judging somebody down the block, you know, and blocking their way, walking away and turning our back on them because they didn't do what we wanted.

[00:42:33] Hersh Rephun: You know, we have all these issues. We face climate and all, everything else. But you know, just the idea of we're human. We're given this gift, we're given all of these skills, let's learn how to use them better. Yep. Unless you're convinced that you're using them the best way you can, which some people are, but a lot of us are not.

[00:43:14] Hersh Rephun: You've given them a lot to think about already. But anything floor is yours, Sabrina, anything you want to share?

[00:43:40] Sabrina Victoria: We are all, we're all dealing with stuff, right? Like even if you don't relate to my exact story, there's stuff that people are dealing with. And we can get caught up in this mindset of worry and in this mindset of PEs pessimistic, being pessimistic and not feeling like we have anywhere to turn, and feeling hopeless and [00:44:00] helpless.

[00:44:26] Sabrina Victoria: It might pivot you. However, in the end, you can turn around and you can smile. And you can recognize that everything's gonna be okay. And I think that if we do that enough, if we reassure each other ourselves enough that like I've done hard things before, I can do hard things again. Everything is gonna be okay, and we can continue to repeat this mantra in our heads.

[00:44:52] Hersh Rephun: Thanks so much for tuning into Truth. Tastes funny. If you enjoyed the experience. Please leave a five star review and share this podcast with [00:45:00] your friends.