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Speaker:episode 96.
Speaker:They all have a character or personality that I just love
Speaker:to see when people look at them and a smile comes
Speaker:on their face.
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Speaker:Hi there,
Speaker:it's Sue and welcome to the Gift Biz Unwrapped podcast.
Speaker:Whether you own a brick and mortar shop,
Speaker:sell online,
Speaker:or are just getting started,
Speaker:you'll discover new insight to gain traction and to grow your
Speaker:business. And today we have joining us,
Speaker:Teresa Curley of Bear Creek Design.
Speaker:And Felting Bear Creek runs through the pasture of Jeff and
Speaker:Teresa's property in North Dakota.
Speaker:They raise sheep,
Speaker:cattle, and chickens.
Speaker:It's the sheep from her property that provide the wool for
Speaker:Teresa's business,
Speaker:bear Creek design and felting.
Speaker:Teresa's been selling her one-of-a-kind needle felted art online since 2006.
Speaker:Two years later,
Speaker:she opened her Etsy shop and as her business continues to
Speaker:evolve, Teresa has designed several beginner and advanced needle felting kits
Speaker:so others can learn her techniques and enjoy her craft as
Speaker:well. Welcome to the show,
Speaker:Teresa. Thank you.
Speaker:I'm excited to be here,
Speaker:Loving that you are here.
Speaker:And we're gonna just dive right into your motivational candle.
Speaker:As our listeners know,
Speaker:we like to get to know our guests in a little
Speaker:bit of a different way,
Speaker:and learning about your candle is a wonderful way for us
Speaker:to do that.
Speaker:So if you were to describe your ideal motivational candle,
Speaker:what color would it be and what would be the quote?
Speaker:The color of my candle would be green.
Speaker:I like natural colors like brown and greens.
Speaker:The quote would be,
Speaker:be the reason someone smiles today.
Speaker:My sculptures that I make,
Speaker:they all have a character or personality that I just love
Speaker:to see when people look at them and a smile comes
Speaker:on their face.
Speaker:Beautiful. And I think as crafters,
Speaker:that's such a great satisfaction that when you get a response
Speaker:like that,
Speaker:a happy smile,
Speaker:people come up and say,
Speaker:oh, that's so beautiful.
Speaker:Or just make someone happy.
Speaker:I think that's the reason deep down for all of us
Speaker:who are creators,
Speaker:why we do this in the first place.
Speaker:Yes, I definitely agree.
Speaker:Gift business listeners,
Speaker:I saw Teresa's booth at the the Chicago one Ofa kind
Speaker:show and her product is so adorable.
Speaker:I'm gonna have you describe it first there.
Speaker:Before we get into exactly how your story started,
Speaker:just give us a little description of your product.
Speaker:Okay. I make a needle felted sculptures.
Speaker:They're made out of a hundred percent wool from our sheep.
Speaker:They're solid wool all the way through.
Speaker:I make whimsical characters as snowman and realistic animals such as
Speaker:elk and elephants and giraffe,
Speaker:they all have their own personality.
Speaker:Even the realistic sculptures have a grin or a look about
Speaker:them that will make you smile.
Speaker:I also have designed needle felting kits.
Speaker:They have the wool from our sheep inside them.
Speaker:They have instructions with pictures and everything that you need to
Speaker:complete these projects.
Speaker:And they're all designed with the beginner in mind.
Speaker:So if you've never heard of felting before,
Speaker:you would be able to complete the projects.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So that gives you a little bit of an idea,
Speaker:but you're gonna have to go over and look at these
Speaker:and we'll talk about websites and all of that later because
Speaker:they are so cute.
Speaker:And Teresa,
Speaker:it's interesting to me that you call them sculptures.
Speaker:Yes. Initially I thought of them as,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:they're little cute stuffed animals,
Speaker:but there's a lot of detail in them.
Speaker:Explain where you got the sculpture as a description.
Speaker:A lot of people do look at them and think that
Speaker:they're, they're like a stuffed animal,
Speaker:but they're actually a sculpture.
Speaker:And that I start with just wool roving,
Speaker:just a fluff of roving.
Speaker:And I stab it with the felting needle.
Speaker:And as you stab it with the felting needle,
Speaker:it pulls the wool into itself and it makes it harder
Speaker:and harder.
Speaker:So once you have a basic shape,
Speaker:then you just keep adding wool and poking it on with
Speaker:a felting needle.
Speaker:And so you are sculpting your way out.
Speaker:And I just look at pictures of live animals or I
Speaker:get some of the ideas out of my own imagination.
Speaker:Now I'm not very familiar with this craft,
Speaker:but is this your own technique?
Speaker:Is this a technique you've created?
Speaker:No, it isn't.
Speaker:It's very popular right now actually.
Speaker:There's a lot of people doing it.
Speaker:All right,
Speaker:but not like you.
Speaker:Alright, So take us back.
Speaker:How did you decide to get into this in the first
Speaker:place? Well,
Speaker:it all,
Speaker:it came about slowly.
Speaker:I've always been a stay-at-home mom,
Speaker:homeschooling my,
Speaker:my children and my husband has had to work overtime and
Speaker:extra jobs to provide for the family.
Speaker:And so I always was looking for a way to earn
Speaker:an extra income.
Speaker:I wasn't sure what that was going to be.
Speaker:And the way it came about is there's many events leading
Speaker:up to it and they all just come together perfectly.
Speaker:My daughter,
Speaker:when she was seven years old,
Speaker:was interested in learning how to knit when my kids are
Speaker:interested in something like that and like homeschooling,
Speaker:I like to just jump in and and help them and
Speaker:anyway I can.
Speaker:So we learned how to knit together.
Speaker:We began knitting.
Speaker:Even the boys were knitting.
Speaker:We were really excited about what we were making.
Speaker:And then we kind of got excited about wool yarn and
Speaker:how and the whole process of spinning it ourselves and we
Speaker:thought that would be fun.
Speaker:We looked into it a little bit and on my daughter's
Speaker:eighth birthday she asked for a lamb and secretly I kind
Speaker:of wanted some sheep myself.
Speaker:So she maybe knew that,
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:But she ended up getting two lambs and I got two
Speaker:lambs as well.
Speaker:And that was the beginning,
Speaker:that's where it all started.
Speaker:We started to look into what we were going to do
Speaker:with their wool.
Speaker:We picked a Romney breed that is known for their quality
Speaker:wool. And we joined a local group that calls themselves a
Speaker:wooly women.
Speaker:They used to raise sheep or they'd still raise sheep and
Speaker:they do things with their wool such as spinning thine,
Speaker:you name it,
Speaker:anything you can do with wool.
Speaker:And we joined this group and the first time we were
Speaker:there I was learning how to spin the wool into yarn
Speaker:and my daughter was shown how the needle felt.
Speaker:And when she went to bed that night when we got
Speaker:home, I picked up the needles and started playing and I
Speaker:stayed up till three in the morning making a sheep.
Speaker:After that,
Speaker:we would go demonstrate,
Speaker:we would spin and with the wooly women at local events
Speaker:and people were interested in purchasing the things that I had
Speaker:made. And so I just started to think,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I was amazed that they wanted to purchase them and it
Speaker:was kind of exciting.
Speaker:I'd always known somewhere in the back of my mind that
Speaker:selling online was the only way I was going to possibly
Speaker:make money where we are,
Speaker:we're located on a farm 30 miles from any small town.
Speaker:So it makes it difficult to have like a store or
Speaker:anything like that.
Speaker:So I kind of knew online was where I had to
Speaker:go. So I started looking into eBay is where I began.
Speaker:I put some of my sculptures on eBay and we were
Speaker:all excited to watch the,
Speaker:the bids come in and were amazed at how much that
Speaker:they would bring.
Speaker:And eventually I found out about Etsy and in 2008 I
Speaker:opened an exi shop and I sold my sculptures there.
Speaker:I sold wool roving to other needle filters in my shop.
Speaker:I was asked locally for local four H groups and things
Speaker:to teach classes on needle felting.
Speaker:And so I started doing that and then my customers and
Speaker:and on Etsy or on social media began to show an
Speaker:interest in learning how I do what I do.
Speaker:And so I thought,
Speaker:well maybe I could take these classes and put them into
Speaker:a kit,
Speaker:write some instructions and pictures and be able to help people
Speaker:learn it all across the country.
Speaker:That's when I started with a bear kit and I've moved
Speaker:up to 13 kits I have now of different levels.
Speaker:There is beginner and then advanced beginner as well.
Speaker:You Have just walked through the evolution of a business in
Speaker:such a fabulous way.
Speaker:And it's so interesting because really what you're saying is you
Speaker:really didn't have an end goal in mind.
Speaker:It's just one step led to another,
Speaker:led to another.
Speaker:It was your daughter being interested in lambs and then you
Speaker:doing it more of just a home craft.
Speaker:And then you went local,
Speaker:saw people were interested in what you were doing and would
Speaker:actually buy it.
Speaker:Right. So you were checking to ensure that there was a
Speaker:market there,
Speaker:but you weren't even looking for that at that time.
Speaker:Then it jumps over to eBay,
Speaker:Etsy, then it jumps to classes and then it jumps to
Speaker:kids just one step after another.
Speaker:And I wanna just underscore this gift as listeners,
Speaker:you may not know exactly where you're going,
Speaker:but being open to the opportunities along the way is exactly
Speaker:what Teresa did.
Speaker:And honestly,
Speaker:this isn't something you would've been able to do even probably
Speaker:15, certainly 20 years ago because the online presence wasn't even
Speaker:available yet.
Speaker:So how fortunate are we to be able to live here
Speaker:now? I know it.
Speaker:It all happened at the perfect time,
Speaker:so Absolutely.
Speaker:So all right,
Speaker:so now you're online selling kits.
Speaker:I know you're also out at shows.
Speaker:Is there anything more we should know about the business kind
Speaker:of as a whole before we move on?
Speaker:I do online classes as well.
Speaker:That is something I started a couple years ago.
Speaker:I'm trying to get into more of the difficult things where
Speaker:I could show in movies how to do things.
Speaker:That's been one of the things I've done recently.
Speaker:Do you Charge for those classes?
Speaker:I do.
Speaker:Okay, wonderful.
Speaker:And that's,
Speaker:that's so nice because you can do it right from home.
Speaker:Do you still have children at home that you're still homeschooling?
Speaker:I do.
Speaker:I have two.
Speaker:They're 14 and 16 years old.
Speaker:Okay, so this is something you can still be at home
Speaker:watching them because those teenagers can be trouble.
Speaker:Definitely. And still progress your business online.
Speaker:That's fabulous.
Speaker:Talk to us a little bit more about the online classes.
Speaker:How are you producing those and getting them up and just
Speaker:give us a little feel for how that all got started
Speaker:and how it's evolved.
Speaker:Well it started because there's a lot of things that you
Speaker:can't put into the kids and that's why the kids are
Speaker:mainly beginner.
Speaker:They're easy,
Speaker:most anybody can do them.
Speaker:Where there is interest out there in learning like more techniques
Speaker:like the details that I get in the animals and how
Speaker:to do them.
Speaker:And so I knew it had to be movies of me
Speaker:actually doing it to show them.
Speaker:And so I put together the videos myself and I attempted
Speaker:to to organize it into classes and get it on my
Speaker:website. But I,
Speaker:in the end had to ask for extra help from ultimate
Speaker:WordPress help is where I've gotten my help for that.
Speaker:And they've put that together for me.
Speaker:Tell me what that is.
Speaker:I'm not familiar with that Ultimate WordPress help.
Speaker:What is that?
Speaker:She calls herself a site savior.
Speaker:So if you don't like a business like mine where you
Speaker:want to do what you do and you don't wanna waste
Speaker:your time working on your website and all the technicalities that
Speaker:are involved,
Speaker:I have a year,
Speaker:I go by yearly annual membership and she's there for any
Speaker:trouble. I have,
Speaker:something's not working right on on my website.
Speaker:She's there within minutes usually to help me.
Speaker:And she also will do website design and like theme changes
Speaker:and site customizations and technical fixes where you don't wanna waste
Speaker:your time.
Speaker:We're for up until that point I was spending hours watching
Speaker:videos and trying to do it all myself.
Speaker:And this is just,
Speaker:yeah, it has helped me quite a bit.
Speaker:I think it's something that we all struggle with as entrepreneurs
Speaker:is that we wanna be able to do everything ourself.
Speaker:And a lot of people will get to a point like
Speaker:you, I guess were with videos that you knew you wanted
Speaker:to accomplish something and you got to a certain point cuz
Speaker:all your videos were already filmed.
Speaker:Right? It was just a matter of getting them up to
Speaker:the site and how that would all work.
Speaker:So many people run into those types of barriers and then
Speaker:I'll just stop.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:they'll just be like,
Speaker:it's too hard.
Speaker:Or they'll put it aside and not run through it.
Speaker:And what I really like about what you're talking about Teresa,
Speaker:is you reached out for help at some point you're trading
Speaker:time for money.
Speaker:You could be creating more kits and more videos in the
Speaker:time that you're spending trying to figure it out.
Speaker:So you reached out,
Speaker:got help and I'm sure that's been a lifesaver,
Speaker:not just for the videos,
Speaker:but anything else with your website now?
Speaker:Yes, definitely a lifesaver.
Speaker:And she's got like life rafts on her all over her
Speaker:website. So I mean it it is,
Speaker:it's a lifesaver.
Speaker:I couldn't do it.
Speaker:I mean I maybe could,
Speaker:but it would take me way more time and waste my
Speaker:time. Exactly.
Speaker:Yeah. Better off in their hands,
Speaker:they can do a better job.
Speaker:Well And you know,
Speaker:you get that done right and then you can move on.
Speaker:Like I said to other things,
Speaker:making new kits,
Speaker:whatever it is that is a profit generating activity,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:you're the talent,
Speaker:you're the person behind it versus trying to figure out all
Speaker:the website stuff.
Speaker:Exactly. I love that you brought that up in gift as
Speaker:listeners think about that.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:are you trying to build something and you're stuck in one
Speaker:portion, maybe it's time to reach,
Speaker:reach out and get some expert help instead of trying to
Speaker:get it through and get the solution done that may or
Speaker:may not work and then you have to repeat it over
Speaker:and over again.
Speaker:So yes,
Speaker:you're spending a little bit of money as you're growing your
Speaker:business or building whatever you're doing,
Speaker:but in the end it can be worth it cuz it's
Speaker:done. Right.
Speaker:And you can be focusing on other stuff to advance your
Speaker:business further faster.
Speaker:Okay. Teresa,
Speaker:tell us about a challenging time along the way.
Speaker:Something that you really struggled with over and above now the
Speaker:videos, but something else that was a hurdle that could possibly
Speaker:stop people but you know,
Speaker:you were able to jump over and make it work.
Speaker:So trying to do everything myself has been my biggest struggle.
Speaker:There's a lot of things behind the scenes that have to
Speaker:go on,
Speaker:such as assembling the kits and dying the wool and spinning
Speaker:and felting and just keeping track of the social media and
Speaker:while preparing meals for my family and the homeschooling and designing
Speaker:kits. And then there's the sheep and lambing time and just
Speaker:keeping track of inventory has been a challenge.
Speaker:And just keeping the house clean and laundry,
Speaker:trying to balance it all has been the biggest.
Speaker:And wanting to do it all myself and thinking I'm the
Speaker:only one that can do it.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:I'm already exhausted by you,
Speaker:what you just said.
Speaker:So what are you doing?
Speaker:How are you tackling it all in a way where you
Speaker:can stay sane?
Speaker:My family is helping out.
Speaker:I'm letting go of certain things,
Speaker:training them to,
Speaker:to help me.
Speaker:My husband has been very supportive and willing to learn things.
Speaker:He's taking over the dying of the wool when he has
Speaker:time. He helps me with the shipping generally just going down
Speaker:there and taking care of that.
Speaker:I haven't let go of putting the kids together yet.
Speaker:And my daughter,
Speaker:when she was home,
Speaker:she's gone to college now,
Speaker:but she used to cook all our meals,
Speaker:which was amazing.
Speaker:Now I've turned to freezer meals that I do like once
Speaker:and then there were good for two weeks.
Speaker:That's a good tip though.
Speaker:But the boys help and my husband and then along with
Speaker:the ultimate WordPress help has been another big thing.
Speaker:So I've been listening to a book by Chris Ducker,
Speaker:virtual Freedom that's been putting the idea of virtual assistance into
Speaker:my head,
Speaker:but I'm not exactly sure yet.
Speaker:I'm halfway through the book so I don't know exactly where
Speaker:they can help me,
Speaker:but it's kind of exciting to think that they maybe could.
Speaker:Well I think they could.
Speaker:And while,
Speaker:since you've mentioned the book,
Speaker:I follow Chris Ducker too.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:he has a whole virtual assistant staffing company and I have
Speaker:used virtual assistants before.
Speaker:So mostly from the Philippines,
Speaker:which is where he is.
Speaker:If you have tasks that are routine that don't need someone
Speaker:right there on the premises and it's something that someone could
Speaker:follow step by step by step,
Speaker:it's definitely something to look into,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:down the road.
Speaker:Not now necessarily,
Speaker:but down the road.
Speaker:So I'm just gonna jump right in here and remind Gift
Speaker:Biz listeners,
Speaker:just like you're listening to us here today.
Speaker:You can also listen to audiobooks like Virtual Freedom really easily.
Speaker:I've teamed up with Audible and if you haven't already,
Speaker:you can jump over to gift biz book.com
Speaker:and make a selection for a book for free on me.
Speaker:I wanna jump back now to your story.
Speaker:You ha now have experience on eBay and Etsy.
Speaker:What would you say about either of those in contrast with
Speaker:each other or one that you feel is better serving you?
Speaker:Or just any feedback here because I know both of these
Speaker:sites would be of interest to our listeners.
Speaker:Well, eBay was definitely exciting as far as watching the bids
Speaker:come in as a family.
Speaker:We, we just thought that was thrilling and just the potential
Speaker:to see them go up maybe than higher than what you
Speaker:would charge.
Speaker:Where Etsy is just a constant presence where now that I
Speaker:have customers that come back and they want to know where
Speaker:I am,
Speaker:they want to be able to find me at all times
Speaker:and that's where the Etsy shop has really been good.
Speaker:Are you using them both right now?
Speaker:I am,
Speaker:no, I'm using Etsy.
Speaker:Okay. And my website.
Speaker:Okay. And why did you decide to eliminate eBay?
Speaker:I'm comfortable with Etsy and how it works and I put
Speaker:them on there and I'm done.
Speaker:My shop is always open,
Speaker:always set up.
Speaker:Are you doing any Etsy ads?
Speaker:I have been doing Google ads through Etsy.
Speaker:Through Etsy's platform.
Speaker:Yes. Can you explain a little bit how that works?
Speaker:You would just put in how much you would like to
Speaker:spend per day and it goes out in the Google ads.
Speaker:You pick which products you would want to have advertised and
Speaker:you're supposed to give it a month.
Speaker:It'll take that long to get a good response to the
Speaker:ads. And I have seen a good,
Speaker:and I started that before Christmas and I've been really happy
Speaker:with how it's turned out.
Speaker:That's great input.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:And it's,
Speaker:and it sounds like it's pretty clear cut and easy.
Speaker:You give them the specifics about what you need for your
Speaker:business, probably target market a little bit,
Speaker:that type of thing and then they just take it away
Speaker:from there.
Speaker:Yes. And the build,
Speaker:I mean it's just subtracted from your Etsy account so you
Speaker:hardly even notice,
Speaker:you know that you're being charged because you're having the extra
Speaker:income as well.
Speaker:Sure. And that'll build over time.
Speaker:I mean if you're already seeing results then you hit the
Speaker:right target and it'll just keep growing and building.
Speaker:Yes. All right.
Speaker:And give biz listeners also remember you need to invest in
Speaker:your business.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you can't just put a website up and expect people to
Speaker:come find you.
Speaker:Once you've got your website up,
Speaker:the next step is you have to tell people that you're
Speaker:there. So Etsy's a great platform for that as Teresa's just
Speaker:described. Okay.
Speaker:So we've talked a little bit about your promotion in terms
Speaker:of online.
Speaker:Let's talk about the shows.
Speaker:Sure. What do you look for in a show?
Speaker:Because for you now,
Speaker:you were here in Chicago,
Speaker:so you had some travel and all that.
Speaker:How do you determine what shows you'll go to?
Speaker:Well we've tried several shows,
Speaker:local shows and we've done fiber festivals farther away from here.
Speaker:And overall the one of a kind show where it's focusing
Speaker:on art has been our best show.
Speaker:We get the most people see our products,
Speaker:we get to interact with the most people.
Speaker:It's probably a lot of money to invest for us,
Speaker:but it's definitely been worthwhile.
Speaker:The fiber festivals that I've gone to,
Speaker:it seems like the people are,
Speaker:they've already into knitting and they don't want another craft to
Speaker:add to their pile of crafts.
Speaker:Yeah, I just haven't done as well at as those,
Speaker:as I have at the,
Speaker:at the art kinds.
Speaker:Like one of a kind show.
Speaker:Well and the one of a kind is perfectly timed too,
Speaker:cuz it's right before Christmas.
Speaker:Yes it is.
Speaker:Perfect. You're picking up some sales directly that way too.
Speaker:Are you focusing on one side of the business more than
Speaker:another, like selling the sculptures versus selling the kits?
Speaker:I don't know that I'm focused either way.
Speaker:The nice thing at the one of a kind show is
Speaker:the different price points that my sculptures run a little higher
Speaker:where the kits are like around 20,
Speaker:$30. And so I sell a lot of kits there and
Speaker:I also sell a lot of snowmen,
Speaker:which are around the $60 price range.
Speaker:And then,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:the higher price range on my sculptures.
Speaker:So it all evens out.
Speaker:And then once you attract someone in as a customer,
Speaker:how do you stay in touch with them or continue communicating
Speaker:with them?
Speaker:Or I guess I should start with do you I do.
Speaker:I send out an email newsletter at least once a month,
Speaker:sometimes twice.
Speaker:I interact with them on social media.
Speaker:I'm active on Pinterest and Facebook and Instagram and I recognize
Speaker:a lot of them on there as well.
Speaker:Okay. And what types of things do you put in your
Speaker:newsletters? I put the new things that I'm making,
Speaker:I often share works in progress.
Speaker:So there's a lot of people that are following or interested
Speaker:in what I do and they wanna know how I am
Speaker:making these sculptures.
Speaker:And so I try to have what they look like when
Speaker:they're beginning and then I'll just show the steps.
Speaker:I share that on social media.
Speaker:And then I always put a,
Speaker:a blog post together and share that in the newsletters.
Speaker:I share where I am doing classes,
Speaker:anything new that I've made and,
Speaker:and new kits that are coming.
Speaker:And I also do giveaways.
Speaker:Oh, wonderful.
Speaker:And talk to us a little more about the giveaways.
Speaker:Every Once in a while I do a,
Speaker:a snowman giveaway,
Speaker:one of my sculptures the snowman or I give away kits.
Speaker:And is that then a way for you to attract more
Speaker:people to your email list Or You're just doing it to
Speaker:recognize people who are already on the email list?
Speaker:Exactly, yes.
Speaker:To to reward them for to,
Speaker:for following me and and staying in touch.
Speaker:And I would imagine too that when someone gets a kit
Speaker:maybe for the first time and they start trying it,
Speaker:that's a really vulnerable part of your customer onboarding,
Speaker:if you will,
Speaker:because you want them to be successful with that first kit
Speaker:so that they'll buy more.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you don't want them to get to a point where they're
Speaker:challenged with something and then they just put it aside and
Speaker:forget about it.
Speaker:Your emails allow them,
Speaker:number one,
Speaker:they're reminded of you when they get the email and then
Speaker:tips and seeing how progression goes with,
Speaker:with a kit.
Speaker:Maybe it's not the one that they have but you know,
Speaker:similar type thing could reinforce the process if for some reason
Speaker:they were struggling with something.
Speaker:Yes. I also put together posts quite often about different techniques
Speaker:that I use and so it's like in detail how the
Speaker:mistakes I've made or what you can do if you make
Speaker:a mistake or,
Speaker:and I also include those in the newsletters to try and
Speaker:help them if they're trying to progress in their needle felting.
Speaker:Do you have a customer story that you could pull out
Speaker:in terms of fun customer experience with them using your product?
Speaker:I teach classes and it's,
Speaker:and my sheep,
Speaker:it's like a little fluffy sheep with curly bull on it
Speaker:and that has been my favorite class to teach and they're
Speaker:always so amazed that they actually made it and it actually
Speaker:looks like a sheep that and it's just fun to,
Speaker:it's fun to hear them exclaiming over and talking to it
Speaker:as they're making it and just exclaiming how cute it is
Speaker:and yeah,
Speaker:that, that really makes me happy.
Speaker:Oh, that's so cute.
Speaker:They're talked to it as they're,
Speaker:as they're remaking it.
Speaker:Yes. I have to admit I do it too.
Speaker:Well if you've given 'em their personality in their face,
Speaker:you, you can't help it.
Speaker:That's true.
Speaker:Explain a little bit about how the classes started.
Speaker:So you had the idea and now you're doing the physical
Speaker:classes, are they right in your area all the time?
Speaker:Usually in my community,
Speaker:yes. And so where's the location?
Speaker:I just go where they want me.
Speaker:So like groups that will have me come to their town
Speaker:and I'll do that.
Speaker:I would like to have people come here,
Speaker:I just don't have the space yet or I haven't found
Speaker:a space.
Speaker:Also throwing around ideas of retreats,
Speaker:felting retreats because there's been interest from all over the country
Speaker:and learning how to needle felt from me and I don't
Speaker:know when I'm ever gonna get to their state.
Speaker:But yeah,
Speaker:a retreat would be excellent way.
Speaker:Talk a little bit about what you've learned in terms of
Speaker:doing successful classes,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:how you sign people up and then actually the course of
Speaker:the class,
Speaker:like the course of the time that people are in there,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:and how you teach them to do this.
Speaker:What can you share with us on that?
Speaker:Well I've learned a lot in like when people are interested
Speaker:in purchasing my kits,
Speaker:I can tell them exactly how long it takes,
Speaker:like a beginner or I learned things from teaching them how
Speaker:to go back and rewrite some of the things in my
Speaker:kits because I realize what they're struggling with and I've learned
Speaker:a lot that way just to be there when they're doing
Speaker:it and see what maybe they don't understand or what I
Speaker:need to explain better.
Speaker:It's been very valuable in writing out the instructions for the
Speaker:kids for me.
Speaker:Right, so you're getting insight from them cuz you're actually watching
Speaker:them try and do what you've put together.
Speaker:Yes. See where they get stuck.
Speaker:Yeah. Customer research I guess you could call it.
Speaker:Yes. So Have you had any issues in the class where
Speaker:someone's just been really challenged and not able to do something
Speaker:or any struggles in the classroom environment?
Speaker:Well there was a time where I was asked to do
Speaker:it at a,
Speaker:a nursing home and I was excited to do that because
Speaker:I thought,
Speaker:well I would love that when someday when I'm in a
Speaker:nursing home.
Speaker:And yeah,
Speaker:but the struggle there was it takes a lot of physical
Speaker:energy to keep stabbing the wool with the needle and I
Speaker:never realized that they would get tired.
Speaker:Ah. And so I had 19 people and I ended up
Speaker:making 19 sheep that night.
Speaker:Oh because,
Speaker:because they kept looking at,
Speaker:can you do it?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:because they were tired and they didn't wanna do it and,
Speaker:and I,
Speaker:and I didn't,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I wanted them to have fun so I tried to go
Speaker:around and,
Speaker:and yeah,
Speaker:I pretty much made 19 sheep.
Speaker:That could be a good dual thing if someone's in a
Speaker:senior home and has a relative,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:like a buddy system because I'm sure they adore those sheep
Speaker:now. You know,
Speaker:having them all,
Speaker:They were pleased with how they turned out.
Speaker:They were happy.
Speaker:I bet they had the expert making them Well and they,
Speaker:and it was like at bedtime even it was like at
Speaker:late in the evening and some of 'em were falling asleep
Speaker:and if I were to do that all over again,
Speaker:I think I would make it easier or I would have
Speaker:stuff done before I got there.
Speaker:Or like you said,
Speaker:have helpers for each of them.
Speaker:That would definitely be the way to go.
Speaker:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker:But I could see where they would just cherish them cuz
Speaker:they're so cute gift as listeners,
Speaker:you have to look at them To Theresa,
Speaker:we're gonna merge now into our reflection section and talk a
Speaker:little bit more about you as a person and how you've
Speaker:been successful.
Speaker:Is there a natural trait that you call upon as you're
Speaker:going through your business day?
Speaker:I would say just determination.
Speaker:I'm pretty determined.
Speaker:Once I decide I wanna do something,
Speaker:I stick with it until it's done.
Speaker:Certainly the trait of a successful entrepreneur,
Speaker:finding a resource as we were talking about with WordPress earlier,
Speaker:doing, you know,
Speaker:whatever you need to do to be able to move the
Speaker:ball forward.
Speaker:And is there,
Speaker:besides your pre-cooking two weeks of meals,
Speaker:is there any other tool or some other trick that you
Speaker:have to try and keep balance in your life?
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:you are more challenged because you are working right out of
Speaker:home, you're homeschooling,
Speaker:you've got the animals to take care of.
Speaker:Is there anything that helps you balance all of this?
Speaker:Well, that's still a work in progress,
Speaker:but lately I've started a bullet journal,
Speaker:I don't know if you're familiar with them,
Speaker:but day planners and things that are already made up have
Speaker:not worked for me.
Speaker:And so a bullet journal,
Speaker:I am putting my calendar in there,
Speaker:I draw it in there.
Speaker:The way I want each page is blank for me to
Speaker:put down anything that I need in there.
Speaker:So if I have a blog post idea every day,
Speaker:I'll put the date and I'll put what I wanna accomplish.
Speaker:If I have a kit idea,
Speaker:I, it's my books right there.
Speaker:I keep track of books that I'm reading and you know,
Speaker:favorites and homeschool ideas.
Speaker:It's in this bullet journal.
Speaker:Beautiful. And gift as listeners,
Speaker:if you don't know what a bullet journal is,
Speaker:I only ran into them in terms of the concept probably
Speaker:like six months ago or so.
Speaker:And they are so popular they were sold out.
Speaker:But the bullet journal,
Speaker:just like what Teresa's describing isn't all structured for you already,
Speaker:but it is,
Speaker:do you have,
Speaker:do you have like colors and designs and all of that
Speaker:since you're artsy in your journal as well?
Speaker:I do because I,
Speaker:it's kind of a stress reliever.
Speaker:I kind of look forward to being able to write in
Speaker:there because it's just something different.
Speaker:I like to make it pretty,
Speaker:so yes.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:So it's a structure of being able to create your day.
Speaker:And they do have physical journals that go along with it.
Speaker:It's a real thing,
Speaker:it's just not a concept.
Speaker:It's a real thing.
Speaker:And I'll link to the bullet journal,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:an article or something like that in the show notes so
Speaker:you can see what we're talking about.
Speaker:Okay. We have talked about the virtual freedom book.
Speaker:Is there anything else you wanna add in terms of any
Speaker:other books that you are reading or have read or listened
Speaker:to that you think our listeners could find value in?
Speaker:Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey has pretty much changed our
Speaker:lives as a family,
Speaker:especially with this income that's been increasing every year.
Speaker:And just being able to manage our money wisely has been
Speaker:wonderful and changed our lives.
Speaker:All right,
Speaker:Teresa, at this point I want to invite you to Dare
Speaker:to Dream.
Speaker:I'd like to present you with a virtual gift.
Speaker:It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.
Speaker:So this is your dream or your goal of almost unreachable
Speaker:heights that you would wish to obtain.
Speaker:Please accept this gift and open it in our presence.
Speaker:What is inside your box?
Speaker:Well, there's two things in my box.
Speaker:First would be that our family would be financially secure enough
Speaker:to be able to give back,
Speaker:like give to people in need to volunteer in our community
Speaker:and church where now we don't feel like we have the
Speaker:time. We're still working on debt,
Speaker:we're still in the growing process where I would just love
Speaker:to see that we're able to take the time to volunteer
Speaker:and that would just bring us so much joy.
Speaker:The second is a little more selfish.
Speaker:I would like to get my business out of my house.
Speaker:It's, it's taken over my whole house.
Speaker:There's wool everywhere.
Speaker:I'm taking up half the basement,
Speaker:move the family room over.
Speaker:Kids are sitting right in front of the TV just to
Speaker:have space to put my kids together and for all the
Speaker:wool and things that I need.
Speaker:I would just like a studio space that was separate so
Speaker:that I could have my house back.
Speaker:And I would like it to be where people could come
Speaker:and we could have classes.
Speaker:It would be big enough so that I could teach others.
Speaker:And there's so many that would love to come to my
Speaker:farm and see the sheep and that would be part of
Speaker:coming and and learning from me.
Speaker:That would be awesome.
Speaker:Yeah, It would be a whole experience,
Speaker:right? Yes,
Speaker:Yes. I love that.
Speaker:And I,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:one of the reasons I like asking this question is I
Speaker:like putting people's goals and dreams out in the environment because
Speaker:something tells me with the whole secret thing and power of
Speaker:attraction, that it helps people get what they're dreaming of.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:it just seems like you're walking that path right into exactly
Speaker:what you want.
Speaker:You've got all the services you wanna provide,
Speaker:it's just you need that physical place.
Speaker:Yes, It's very exciting.
Speaker:Gift Biz listeners,
Speaker:you know that there's gonna be a show notes page and
Speaker:on that page will be all the information,
Speaker:contact to Teresa's website,
Speaker:social media sites,
Speaker:all of that.
Speaker:You have to go look at these sculptures.
Speaker:They're so cute.
Speaker:If you need a smile in your day,
Speaker:like Teresa was talking about way in the beginning,
Speaker:all you need to do is go on the website and
Speaker:look at these adorable little animals.
Speaker:Theresa, for people who are not near a computer right now,
Speaker:maybe on their phones or walking their dogs at the gym,
Speaker:straightening stock in their shop,
Speaker:something like that,
Speaker:what would be the single best place for someone to go
Speaker:and connect up with you online?
Speaker:Bear Creek felting.com
Speaker:is my website.
Speaker:From there you can find my Etsy shop.
Speaker:You can find my Facebook,
Speaker:Etsy, Instagram,
Speaker:a Pinterest.
Speaker:You can also find pictures of my sheep and our farm
Speaker:life, as well as all of my sculptures that I've made
Speaker:and information on Neil Felting.
Speaker:Perfect. Well,
Speaker:I have to tell you,
Speaker:Teresa, I live in the suburbs of Chicago,
Speaker:but I swear in my past life,
Speaker:I grew up on a farm because I always like not
Speaker:being in the city,
Speaker:but being more out nature,
Speaker:animals, all of that.
Speaker:So your life to me sounds absolutely fabulous.
Speaker:And I love the fact that you have the opportunity in
Speaker:this day to be able to make these adorable creations and
Speaker:sell them online and make a whole business for yourself and
Speaker:your story about being able to go step by step by
Speaker:step and just one thing led to another,
Speaker:led to another,
Speaker:and the dreams that you have for your future.
Speaker:There is no question in my mind that all of those
Speaker:things are gonna happen.
Speaker:Thank you again so much for joining me today.
Speaker:And may your candle always burn bright.
Speaker:Thank you,
Speaker:I enjoyed it.
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