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David Shriner-Cahn:Juliet, hon Juliet is a storyteller consultant, public
David Shriner-Cahn:Her mission in life is to give women and men the stage to share their stories.
David Shriner-Cahn:She believes deeply that everyone has a story and we
David Shriner-Cahn:We just need to listen.
David Shriner-Cahn:Julia, welcome to the show.
David Shriner-Cahn:Thank you so
Juliet Hahn:much, David.
Juliet Hahn:I'm really excited about.
Juliet Hahn:So let's start
David Shriner-Cahn:with your story.
David Shriner-Cahn:Tell me a little bit about
Juliet Hahn:it, and I'm not going to go as far back, but
Juliet Hahn:I am dyslexic.
Juliet Hahn:So school was always really hard for me.
Juliet Hahn:I was really good in sports and that's where I went.
Juliet Hahn:So I literally followed the athletic platform, went to college for that,
Juliet Hahn:So I went into corporate.
Juliet Hahn:And very quickly when I had to take anatomy and physiology
Juliet Hahn:I don't know that I want to work this art I could have, but I decided I wanted
Juliet Hahn:So I went into communications, radio, television, and film, and that is where
Juliet Hahn:Funny enough, I did not think I was a creative.
Juliet Hahn:Coming when you're dyslexic in school, you're always it,
Juliet Hahn:I was really more the athlete.
Juliet Hahn:Some teacher somewhere down the line told me stick with what you're good at.
Juliet Hahn:So that's where the sports came in.
Juliet Hahn:However, when I was finishing school and really honing in, I decided I
Juliet Hahn:So even though.
Juliet Hahn:I went into communications, radio, television film.
Juliet Hahn:Most of the people in the major actually went into the creative part, where
Juliet Hahn:I was able to study all that, which I loved, but never really
Juliet Hahn:The advertising sales part, the relationships really got to me
Juliet Hahn:So that is where I moved to New York city and met my husband a couple of
Juliet Hahn:I worked on the agency side and then went into the sales part and my husband.
Juliet Hahn:I had three kids.
Juliet Hahn:I decided I wanted to stay home.
Juliet Hahn:I always wanted to be a mom.
Juliet Hahn:And it just was something that I knew deep down.
Juliet Hahn:I was fortunate enough that I was able to do.
Juliet Hahn:Now, this was in the world when, so I'll date myself, but I'm 48.
Juliet Hahn:My oldest is 16.
Juliet Hahn:It was at the time where they said women can do it all.
Juliet Hahn:you could do it all.
Juliet Hahn:You can work, you can have a full-time career and you can be a mom.
Juliet Hahn:And there was a part of me because I'm very connected to my why I'm
Juliet Hahn:And I knew.
Juliet Hahn:I'm not going to be able to do it all the way I would want.
Juliet Hahn:Something's going to give it's probably going to be my husband.
Juliet Hahn:I'm not going to be able to be the mom that I want and also
Juliet Hahn:So I remember I sat down with my sister who had a baby at the same time.
Juliet Hahn:She happened to be in corporate real estate.
Juliet Hahn:She was able to go to back to the office one day a week, and I was
Juliet Hahn:Maybe four.
Juliet Hahn:I could work it out with my employer, great company, but I knew
Juliet Hahn:And she said to me, what will make you the best mom and wife?
Juliet Hahn:And I said, oh my gosh, staying home.
Juliet Hahn:And she goes, why are you doing this?
Juliet Hahn:And I said, I don't know, because I feel like I was such a confident human always,
Juliet Hahn:And so I was questioning things like, okay, I, oh my
Juliet Hahn:W, I could really mess this person up.
Juliet Hahn:I need to really think.
Juliet Hahn:I started getting a little bit in my head and overthinking.
Juliet Hahn:And from there I decided when my sister said that I'm going to stay
Juliet Hahn:worked in the PTA.
Juliet Hahn:I was the environmental rep for the town.
Juliet Hahn:We moved out of the city after we had our third.
Juliet Hahn:And, it just, it was great.
Juliet Hahn:I loved every moment of it, definitely it was ups and downs, being, staying home.
Juliet Hahn:After being in the workforce is a little different, but I babysat my entire life.
Juliet Hahn:So I was sending like, okay, I can do this.
Juliet Hahn:I then I guess it was when my kids were a little bit older and I realized, you know
Juliet Hahn:Not that I didn't enjoy it, but I wanted more, I was feeling a little
Juliet Hahn:And so I started exploring things that I could do at home.
Juliet Hahn:I could, take in, cause my now my husband was working.
Juliet Hahn:He had a great job, but I also wanted to be a part of the.
Juliet Hahn:You know the world, I wanted to be able to contribute.
Juliet Hahn:I contributed with the kids.
Juliet Hahn:They were a little bit older now I wanted to bring home a little bit of a paycheck.
Juliet Hahn:So I went into fitness.
Juliet Hahn:Funny enough, I went back to the whole fitness thing and I started doing some
Juliet Hahn:And I started teaching classes.
Juliet Hahn:Absolutely loved that.
Juliet Hahn:And did that probably for five or six years.
Juliet Hahn:Thank God.
Juliet Hahn:That feeling again, you know what?
Juliet Hahn:I need a little bit of a creative outlet.
Juliet Hahn:That's when I started my podcast, that's when I really started consulting people
Juliet Hahn:However, I always had my foot, doing things and still active using my brain.
Juliet Hahn:So that's very quickly way of, telling you about my.
David Shriner-Cahn:So now at this point, how much of your
David Shriner-Cahn:Find their passion and build a business around it versus the fitness business.
Juliet Hahn:So it's pretty much a hundred percent.
Juliet Hahn:I still work with people every once in a while.
Juliet Hahn:Cause they know like I get up, I work out, I have my routines, but
Juliet Hahn:Yes it is.
Juliet Hahn:I like the way I look at my jeans, but it really is for my mind, it's how I
Juliet Hahn:And so I'm a hundred percent into the consulting.
Juliet Hahn:Helping people find that creative passion and turn it into a.
David Shriner-Cahn:And of the kinds of people you work with, what
David Shriner-Cahn:And I'm assuming that one of the main differences between the two is when you
David Shriner-Cahn:To get your income in your business up as quickly as
David Shriner-Cahn:Versus if you do work, work out your families scenario so that one
David Shriner-Cahn:And so building up a business slowly as your kids get older,
David Shriner-Cahn:A
Juliet Hahn:hundred percent.
Juliet Hahn:So I work with about 50 50, because a lot of times there's a number
Juliet Hahn:after some really soul-searching really after COVID, that's really,
Juliet Hahn:I need to figure this out.
Juliet Hahn:So I will work with people usually when they feel that and they still keep
David Shriner-Cahn:okay.
David Shriner-Cahn:And so for those folks that are employees and are going out on their own, what
David Shriner-Cahn:Or let's say they already have left their job, or they've
David Shriner-Cahn:What are some of the things that prevent them from being
Juliet Hahn:Yes.
Juliet Hahn:and this is something that it sounds so cliche, but it is so true.
Juliet Hahn:It's their mindset.
Juliet Hahn:A lot of my clients, when they first come to me, they will either say, this
Juliet Hahn:Who's gonna want to see what I'm doing.
Juliet Hahn:They have that limiting mindset and that limiting belief
Juliet Hahn:So we do a lot of work with that and also.
Juliet Hahn:I will work with people right in the beginning when they say,
Juliet Hahn:These are things that I wanted to look into and they might have a
David Shriner-Cahn:Yeah.
David Shriner-Cahn:So I've come across many people like this as well.
David Shriner-Cahn:And often they're in fields where it seems like the field might be
David Shriner-Cahn:Great writer or communicator.
David Shriner-Cahn:There's so many shifts going on in industries that involve
David Shriner-Cahn:And it seems like you can go online and find somebody who can do your
David Shriner-Cahn:You can often find somebody who says they'll do it at a much lower hourly
David Shriner-Cahn:The whole world of communications has shifted so much in the last number
David Shriner-Cahn:Yeah.
David Shriner-Cahn:So what do you do with folks like that?
Juliet Hahn:I think what's really important is that they know who they're
Juliet Hahn:I think it's really important for someone to really get connected with why they
Juliet Hahn:and not think about the rest of the world.
Juliet Hahn:Okay.
Juliet Hahn:There's tens of thousands of people and the writing part.
Juliet Hahn:Let's just use that in the sample.
Juliet Hahn:However, your story, the way you deliver is going to connect with.
Juliet Hahn:Your audience.
Juliet Hahn:And I think that's so important.
Juliet Hahn:There's so many people out there.
Juliet Hahn:I mean that need different services might need your message.
Juliet Hahn:Might need the service that you're providing that you can't really think,
Juliet Hahn:How people going to find me when you find.
Juliet Hahn:What truly connects with your mind and body and you put it out
Juliet Hahn:You're going to attract the people that are meant to mentor your church, attract
Juliet Hahn:And I really say it's the consistent part.
Juliet Hahn:I truly believe that we all have.
Juliet Hahn:Whether it's God or universe, but we really all have a path.
Juliet Hahn:And so when you have that feeling in your stomach, like you're
Juliet Hahn:Like I'm happy, but I'm not really happy.
Juliet Hahn:This is what I always tell my clients.
Juliet Hahn:I want you to really dig deep to that.
Juliet Hahn:Think about different things, I'm having a conversation with you.
Juliet Hahn:Or I had a conversation with the man in the office next to me, and
Juliet Hahn:But think about those little moments when you're talking to people
Juliet Hahn:That little flutter that makes you like, huh?
Juliet Hahn:That's interesting.
Juliet Hahn:I always say to people, I want you to follow that because that is, there's
Juliet Hahn:And once you start following that doors are gonna open.
Juliet Hahn:If you are on the right path and that's where it's you just have to do it.
Juliet Hahn:You can't sit back and think, okay.
Juliet Hahn:Oh, this other person did it better than me.
Juliet Hahn:I shouldn't do it.
Juliet Hahn:You really need to take that fear.
Juliet Hahn:And I know it's scary cause there's so many of my clients that are like,
Juliet Hahn:That fear base, they don't want to fail, but if you have that and you
Juliet Hahn:And you're just going to have that, you're going to stay in that comfortable,
Juliet Hahn:And is that worth
David Shriner-Cahn:it did Julia, how do you connect this?
David Shriner-Cahn:If you do the self-reflection and you realize, yeah, I really
David Shriner-Cahn:Cause I don't know if anybody would be interested.
David Shriner-Cahn:How do you go from that awareness of what the, it is to actually getting to
David Shriner-Cahn:That's true.
Juliet Hahn:So my first thing, my first step is what I always
Juliet Hahn:You go out and start asking people questions.
Juliet Hahn:You also, this is where the internet and social media is.
Juliet Hahn:So brilliant.
Juliet Hahn:Start asking little questions.
Juliet Hahn:Now you don't have to say, this is my product.
Juliet Hahn:Would you buy it right?
Juliet Hahn:You don't want to go out and do that, but you just start asking little questions
Juliet Hahn:A lot of times it is the people that I work with.
Juliet Hahn:They have created a product that needs to fit into.
Juliet Hahn:So it's something that is going to fit a need of someone else,
Juliet Hahn:So like what that is.
Juliet Hahn:So really get connected with that and start.
Juliet Hahn:this is what I literally, my clients do.
Juliet Hahn:They start writing it down, right?
Juliet Hahn:They write the steps down.
Juliet Hahn:This is the passion I have.
Juliet Hahn:This is the product they want to have.
Juliet Hahn:This is the little bit of market research they did.
Juliet Hahn:And then it's okay, let's go find your strengths and weaknesses
Juliet Hahn:so when I started my podcast, I knew where my strengths and we can start.
Juliet Hahn:When I started my consulting business, I knew where I was
Juliet Hahn:And so it was like, okay, let me find where I can have a little bit of support,
Juliet Hahn:And so that's what I always tell my clients find the thing
Juliet Hahn:Start that first and then put like your strengths and your weaknesses.
Juliet Hahn:Okay.
Juliet Hahn:Where am I going to need a little bit of support here?
Juliet Hahn:Where am I going to say?
Juliet Hahn:And that's where it's okay, let's figure this out.
Juliet Hahn:How am I going to make this a paycheck?
Juliet Hahn:And that.
Juliet Hahn:Then put it all into a system.
Juliet Hahn:So if you have a, like an online course, or if you have a product, an online
Juliet Hahn:Also, what I tell my clients is it's a lot of times it's really important
Juliet Hahn:So if you create some money, but you haven't done the market research and
Juliet Hahn:Are starting to talk about what you're going to be doing and see where
Juliet Hahn:It's not a great place to be.
Juliet Hahn:So you want to do a little bit of.
Juliet Hahn:Before, and then you start running with it and that's where like some
Juliet Hahn:I want to have everything done.
Juliet Hahn:That's not a great place to be.
Juliet Hahn:Cause you want to do both.
Juliet Hahn:So maybe you'll have four ducks in a row and a couple other line,
Juliet Hahn:That's where you want to be.
Juliet Hahn:Cause that's going to keep taking you the actionable steps moving forward.
Juliet Hahn:So if, again, if we're talking about an online course, you want
Juliet Hahn:If it's a product again, do you want to take the steps?
Juliet Hahn:So for a product you need to get the patent.
Juliet Hahn:You need to talk to the lawyer, you need to get the prototype.
Juliet Hahn:So you need to go and make, have someone make that.
Juliet Hahn:And then you're going to start talking about it market.
Juliet Hahn:Hey, would you use this?
Juliet Hahn:Would you do this to see where it is?
David Shriner-Cahn:I often tell people don't bother creating the website for.
David Shriner-Cahn:Sell your service first.
David Shriner-Cahn:See, who's going to buy it because your website is probably going to be different
David Shriner-Cahn:Exactly.
David Shriner-Cahn:So if you're selling consulting services, see if you can get a client
David Shriner-Cahn:Because you're probably going to be wrong in terms of what people will buy
Juliet Hahn:and you know what, David, I love that.
Juliet Hahn:You just said that because I think it's, so this is where people, I see
Juliet Hahn:But just like you said, it's so important to get that first client, see how
Juliet Hahn:I can't even tell you how many times I have flown the plane as.
Juliet Hahn:how
David Shriner-Cahn:did you do it with your business?
David Shriner-Cahn:Cause you clearly, like you're in a very different business now
Juliet Hahn:if this is it's a funny story.
Juliet Hahn:How I got into the whole consulting, a lot of my.
Juliet Hahn:That I was working within the fitness world through nutrition.
Juliet Hahn:They were extremely wealthy.
Juliet Hahn:Their husbands worked, they stayed home and time again, they
Juliet Hahn:And I was like, okay.
Juliet Hahn:They on paper, they look like they should be happy.
Juliet Hahn:People would look at them and be like, why aren't they happy?
Juliet Hahn:And the more I would talk to them, it was before.
Juliet Hahn:They weren't tapping into a creative passion.
Juliet Hahn:They didn't have anything other than what they, their daily lives.
Juliet Hahn:A lot of them were playing tennis and having lunch every day.
Juliet Hahn:And that's all they were doing.
Juliet Hahn:They were raising their family and they loved that, but they
Juliet Hahn:That extra thing that kind of lit them on fire that excited them.
Juliet Hahn:And so when they were telling me this time and time again, I can't
Juliet Hahn:And I would always come back to.
Juliet Hahn:Wait a second.
Juliet Hahn:you've always wanted to write a book or you have this amazing product
Juliet Hahn:So let's back into this.
Juliet Hahn:So that's really how I got into my consulting is because my nutrition
Juliet Hahn:Okay, this is what you want to do.
Juliet Hahn:And that's really, as my podcast grew, because then I
Juliet Hahn:Followed a passion and made it into a business.
Juliet Hahn:It all just came full circle.
Juliet Hahn:And so I hope that answered your question.
David Shriner-Cahn:What was the topic of your practice when you launched?
Juliet Hahn:So when I first launched it was personal journal stories
Juliet Hahn:I also want it to get these women out of their crazy worlds, moms
Juliet Hahn:I wanted to tell them stories because I was very prevalent on social media.
Juliet Hahn:I would get time and time again, people like you have it all together.
Juliet Hahn:And even though.
Juliet Hahn:Posts stuff that was not altogether.
Juliet Hahn:So I would always chuckled.
Juliet Hahn:I'd be like, okay, you see me being real.
Juliet Hahn:I wake up, I tell you what I'm doing during the day.
Juliet Hahn:a hot mess kind of bomb here, but you're still perceiving
Juliet Hahn:This is really interesting.
Juliet Hahn:I want to dive into this and figure out why is that?
Juliet Hahn:So there was a perception of who these people thought I was.
Juliet Hahn:So I was like, you know what?
Juliet Hahn:I'm going to tell stories because that's going to get them out
Juliet Hahn:I started that in 2019 and then.
Juliet Hahn:During quarantine.
Juliet Hahn:It was like, okay, I really don't have any really funny stories anymore.
Juliet Hahn:We're all together.
Juliet Hahn:we actually were very happy being altogether, but there wasn't a
Juliet Hahn:So I decided, because I knew when I started this podcast, it was
Juliet Hahn:Whether it was just a creative outlet or if it turned into
Juliet Hahn:So during quarantine, I decided I was going to interview
Juliet Hahn:And I called it quarantined stories.
Juliet Hahn:And that's when I started interviewing people and asking
Juliet Hahn:And then that's where then my storytelling part of my consulting business took
Juliet Hahn:And they would say, That's why I started this business or that's why I
Juliet Hahn:So that's how like that part of my consulting business on top of the
Juliet Hahn:And it's really cool to see how it's how it's
David Shriner-Cahn:Yeah, Juliette, how can you, one of the things that
David Shriner-Cahn:These opportunities have crept up.
David Shriner-Cahn:You weren't expecting them yet.
David Shriner-Cahn:They have led to some great things that connect your passion with
David Shriner-Cahn:What can you say about how you can be better aware of these
Juliet Hahn:I love that.
Juliet Hahn:I love that question.
Juliet Hahn:So there's a couple of different things.
Juliet Hahn:One is just be aware.
Juliet Hahn:all of us are going at such a.
Juliet Hahn:That we are not aware of what's going on around us.
Juliet Hahn:And again, whether it's universal or God, there is little signs
Juliet Hahn:But the other thing is to find that time, and I know this is going
Juliet Hahn:I, this is what I tell my clients all the time.
Juliet Hahn:I'm like, I want you to sit and daydream.
Juliet Hahn:And they're like, what?
Juliet Hahn:And I'm like, yes, we're not in class where the teacher is going to yell at you.
Juliet Hahn:It's so important.
Juliet Hahn:Whether it's the shower, whether it's I do it.
Juliet Hahn:When I walk my dogs, I can't meditate in the traditional meditation way because.
Juliet Hahn:I am a fast mover.
Juliet Hahn:I'm on the go.
Juliet Hahn:My brain needs to be working to be able to daydream.
Juliet Hahn:And so that's the other thing I tell my clients.
Juliet Hahn:I want you to find that time and that space where you can dream about
Juliet Hahn:And this is part of my workshop that I do is I want my clients to write
Juliet Hahn:It doesn't matter about what other people are going to say to you.
Juliet Hahn:How do you perceive your life?
Juliet Hahn:the life that you've always wanted.
Juliet Hahn:What is it?
Juliet Hahn:And I just want you to write it down.
Juliet Hahn:Is it that you live on the water?
Juliet Hahn:Do you live in the mountains?
Juliet Hahn:Do you have a huge house, a smaller house?
Juliet Hahn:Is it that what are the freedoms that you would want with having this business?
Juliet Hahn:That's going to create you unlimited funds.
Juliet Hahn:So I really go there where it's okay, let's paint this out.
Juliet Hahn:Let's point, get that picture.
Juliet Hahn:And then from there, once my clients do that.
Juliet Hahn:And so that's what your listeners can do right now.
Juliet Hahn:And just really write that down and then find that time again,
Juliet Hahn:And then when you do that, You're all.
Juliet Hahn:If this is the path that you're meant to do, you're going
Juliet Hahn:You're going to hear a little things around.
Juliet Hahn:You're going to meet someone that's Hey, I just started my own business.
Juliet Hahn:I'm doing this.
Juliet Hahn:You're going to be like, wait a second.
Juliet Hahn:How did you do that?
Juliet Hahn:How, what did you do?
Juliet Hahn:And then you're going to start asking questions and talking to people and
Juliet Hahn:Sometimes they shut and you're supposed to make a left instead of around.
Juliet Hahn:But that's what life is about to explore, to be curious, ask questions, really
David Shriner-Cahn:said, Juliet.
David Shriner-Cahn:we've covered a lot of territory.
David Shriner-Cahn:If someone wants to go deeper with anything we've shown.
David Shriner-Cahn:Access any resources you have, or get in touch with you,
Juliet Hahn:to go.
Juliet Hahn:So they can go to my website, which is I am Juliet, hon.
Juliet Hahn:And that's J U L I E T H a H n.com and also on all the socials.
Juliet Hahn:But that's the, you can email me from there.
David Shriner-Cahn:Sounds good.
David Shriner-Cahn:Juliet, I want to thank you so much for taking the time to join
David Shriner-Cahn:My guest has been storyteller consultant, public speaker, and
Juliet Hahn:us.
Juliet Hahn:Thank you so much, David.
Juliet Hahn:I so appreciate it.
David Shriner-Cahn:When you visit the smashing the plateau
David Shriner-Cahn:On today's episode with Juliet, hon, we learned how important it
David Shriner-Cahn:That's why the comradery of supportive collaborative colleagues is the foundation
David Shriner-Cahn:Being able to share your story in a safe space, where you can get feedback
David Shriner-Cahn:You'll also find a range of tools and resources to support your
David Shriner-Cahn:Check out the smashing the plateau community so that you
David Shriner-Cahn:What you're worth.
David Shriner-Cahn:Learn more@smashingtheplateau.com slash community.
David Shriner-Cahn:That's smashing the plateau.com/community.
David Shriner-Cahn:Thank you for taking the time to listen to our show.