You are going to love her blog Earthly Delights Farm, at but I invited her here because she runs the Snake River Seed Coop so here’s Casey O’Leary.
I’m in Boise, ID
I don’t own my own land but I farm on a 3 acre in the city. I farm on about acre and half and share with the landowner who runs a nursery and other farm projects. On our farm we grow about 100 varieties of seed crops for the Snake River Seed Coop
We also have a CSA program
I have been doing for the last 15 years, spring and summer 18 week CSA 45 members
going a different route, we’re just gonna do a fall CSA pickup. Just one big pickup in the fall of storage crops and instructions on how to store them.
for people who have small urban gardens, we’re making
I just want to make sure I am understand, you are actually giving them a 4×4 garden bed with the lumber etc, or just the stuff that goes in them?
No, we’re assuming they already have the boxes and the soil in those boxes
It’s a pretty common thing for Urban gardeners to have some sort of
just a way to maximize the amount of food they get out of it and use locally grown seeds
Is this your first year offering that?
Yes it’s the very first year
It’s interesting, you had mentioned in starting market farms
I’m in an interesting place because I’ve been running a CSA for 15 years
I am getting to the place where I am burnt out
In the past I have run this massive internship program that is really involved and a CSA with a lot of moving pieces and a serious commitment all season long.
I’ve been wanting a bit of a break, us farmers can’t just take time off in the summer, but just not having to harvest for CSA every single week would feel really nice to me
first time
we already grow our own seeds and starts
I’ve gotten decent at doing that and thought it would be offering that to other people
Like the fall CSA, instead of offering harvest and succession plant every week from May-Sept
do the work of growing those on a less rigorous schedule, if I want to take a few days off and go camping, I am not locked into harvesting every week.
ease my constant need to be on the farm
I might miss it, not know what to with myself.
You have no idea how timely this is, I’m working on this free garden course and a workbook to go with it, as I’m finishing it, every page I’m thinking how to help my listeners get from one-to-done in the easiest way possible that they have started their organic oasis, and at the end of this year being able to enjoy it, and this weekend I wrote a whole page on time commitment.
Thinking about what are you really going to be able to do. I told you in the pre-chat I am more the eater then the gardener. I like to go hiking, and I usually have a full time job. So, I was saying in the spring you get fresh rain and water from nature. Those crops are best for people who want to go hiking in summer.
The other part is I’m always telling my husband that I think selling organic starts would be huge. The thing I was excited about was I thought you were selling the boxes because I feel like my listeners frequently say one of their barriers is building the physical beds. And then I really want to get my masters too.
I started my farm when I was 24-25 and my farm model has continued in the model of a 24 year old. I turned 40 this year, I need a little more grown up model.
not quite so scrappy, hanging on by the seat of my pants. I don’t own my land and probably for many of your listeners they probably don’t own their own land
When you want to start a farm one of the biggest issues is the access to farmland
We have tons of people moving who have a lot more money then we have in Idaho.
from wealthier places
Also, probably the growing number of people able to work from home over the internet.
Yes, exactly and making the same wages with a lower cost of living, it’s driving up the land prices. I want to say I just read something about Idaho 48th in the country per capita wage for employees for Idaho, so we don’t make much money here.
It’s hard to figure that out
And because it’s a city there’s a lot of pressure to develop agriculture land into houses you’re not interested in selling to people who could pay the mortgage off of farming that land not anything new
It makes it hard to figure it out where you can have security
kicked off of several pieces and that can make it very difficult.
I was surprised you didn’t own your place.
It’s definitely a scrappy business model.
I do remember there was raspberry patch at our house, it was very
I spent a lot of time on public land issues. In Idaho, the political landscape is different then my politics are, working on those issues felt like running my head into a brick wall. Someone else was setting the agenda. I felt like I am wasting my time to shut them down.
no, no, no you can’t do it you shouldn’t do that!
I just want to turn and run as fast as I can in the direction in that I want to go and let someone else waste their time trying to shut me down!
reading stuff about CSAs
local food and how valuable it was as an environmental choice
Idk anything! OMGosh! My first gardens were horrible! You’re still so excited! And the more into seed saving too!
Just a lot of mistakes!
learning about I planted hopi blue corn and sweet corn next to each other!
blue corn in sweet corn
neither is good to eat!
a lot of that in the beginning
but gosh even though there were a lot of mistakes and failures, it’s such a satisfying way to spend my time! I was riding my bike home from some of my gardens I feel like my 12 year old self!
it is a lifestyle commitment
lifestyle change to start gardening
grateful
seeds have bene really useful
roadmap
We have so much in common, when I was in college, I met my husband because I felt like I was banging my head against the wall and my friends said go plant trees, and that’s where I met my husband on a mountain and our goal is to be as self sufficient and local as we can be.
I will be honest as I’ve gotten older, biking has not been as much as a crucial part of the farm
10 years we did almost everything by bike
bike trailers
How far would you go like a block or a couple of miles?
A couple of miles!
I now have one piece of farm only
I always had 2-3 plots of land farming concurrently so we would go between them. In the very beginning they weren’t all in the same neighborhood
3 those three would be within 10 blocks of each other
but now I’m just at one place, it’s 2 miles from my house
I have a dog that is kind of a pain in the neck now, he has to be on a leash when I’m riding with him, he won’t stay next to me. So that’s been annoying to get around by bike
it’s one thing to have myself, but to pull a giant ass cart, I feel like a horse!
more reliant on my little truck
human powered farming
important to never use fossil fuels for stuff we were doing
There’s a tractor on the farm, I don’t own it but I can use it once a year
Maybe to till in a cover crop instead of with a shovel which is really nice.
I think I double dug an acre 1/2 of land I didn’t own.
the true authenticity has suffered in that
I’ve done it for 10 years
I took a class through the University of Idaho
series of classes about this or that about beginning farm.
I took it maybe 12 years ago where they taught you how to outline a really good internship so you could share the info that you have in a way that is respectful of people’s time and gives them lots of resources and not like exploited free labor
I ran the internship with woman who I was farming, it ran for 3 years, till we parted ways and then I did it by myself for 7 more years
We go through everything through
a lot of Philosophy!
We read a lot of Wendell Barry
commercial
Try to combine that with hands-on farmwork
We read
really good overview of what a season on a farm looks like.
We start in March and go through October
So when they are done
plan out a CSA crop if they take good notes the idea is after they