In this episode of Collaborators Unite, host Chuck Anderson dives into the world of brand storytelling with special guest Chase Friedman. Chase, a brand strategist and expert in brand storytelling, shares valuable insights on the importance of purpose-driven brands, the role of storytelling in effective marketing, and the power of collaboration. Join them as they discuss how to create a compelling brand blueprint, differentiate yourself in a stakeholder-driven economy, and build a strong network of like-minded collaborators.
Guest Bio:
Chase Friedman is a brand strategist, filmmaker, writer, and director. Starting his career as an independent filmmaker, Chase transitioned into creating branded content and brand storytelling for purpose-driven organizations. With his deep passion for storytelling, he helps businesses and nonprofits develop authentic brand strategies that connect with customers on a deeper level. Chase believes in the power of collaboration and building strong relationships in business.
Key Points Discussed:
- 04:28 - The importance of conducting a deep brand discovery process
- 10:13 - The three core phases of a brand blueprint: brand core, brand positioning, and brand personality
- 16:45 - The shift to a stakeholder-driven economy and the demand for purpose-driven brands
- 25:07 - The role of storytelling in effective brand strategy and marketing
- 32:55 - The value of collaboration and building a strong network
Guest's Must-Read Book Recommendation:
Chase recommends "Building a Story Brand" by Donald Miller. This book provides valuable insights on how to create a compelling brand story that resonates with customers and helps businesses grow.
Links:
- Brand Blueprint eBook: https://vanquishmediagroup.com/tag/ebooks/
- Discovery Call with Chase Friedman: https://vanquishmediagroup.com/discoverycall/
Join Chuck Anderson and Chase Friedman in this episode of Collaborators Unite as they unlock the power of brand storytelling and explore the art of creative collaboration. Don't miss out on valuable strategies and insights that can help take your business to new heights.
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Chuck Anderson,
Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the show. This is the
Speaker:creative collaboration show with Chuck Anderson, and
Speaker:this is the show where we help, business owners, at
Speaker:various stages in their business growth to,
Speaker:find missing pieces of the puzzle that they're
Speaker:looking for in terms of their, in terms of their
Speaker:messaging, their lead generation, their sales, their branding,
Speaker:all of that. And, and one of our purposes of the show is
Speaker:to, not only get you some great information of which we
Speaker:have some great information here for you today, but also to connect you
Speaker:with people who I think are just great collaborators, great people to
Speaker:reach out to and learn something more for or even get their
Speaker:help, you know, if if if this is the kind of help you get need
Speaker:to have in your business. And I'm you're you're probably on a big mission
Speaker:to, to make sales. And how do we make sales? We gotta get leads.
Speaker:And where how do we get leads? Well, we gotta we need eyeballs. How do
Speaker:we do all of that? And there's so many strategies and so many things that
Speaker:we can do. Today's expert is an expert
Speaker:at brand storytelling. He's a
Speaker:fractional CMO and the founder of Vanquish Media
Speaker:Group. I'm honored to have Chase Friedman here with me
Speaker:today. Chase, welcome to the show. Thank you. Feeling this
Speaker:mutual. Honored to be here. Awesome. Well, I'm I'm
Speaker:really grateful that you said yes and that you would, that you're gonna be on
Speaker:the show. And, you know, in the brief chat that we had earlier. Obviously,
Speaker:you have a lot of really great things going on. And, look, I did,
Speaker:I did the light introduction here, but I think, you know, a great place
Speaker:to start, Chase, is, tell the folks a little bit more about you and what
Speaker:you do, and we'll go from there. Yeah. Well,
Speaker:look. To start, I I I gotta walk walk the talk,
Speaker:and, I'm sharing what I believe my mantra,
Speaker:goes first. So I I believe that every person, every business owner, every
Speaker:organization has the capacity to do good and do well in the
Speaker:world. Right. The path to get there
Speaker:is through a clear and definable brand identity and
Speaker:message and purpose. Right. So as you mentioned, I
Speaker:serve as a fractional CMO and the founder of English Media Group. We
Speaker:empower entrepreneurs and business owners to achieve that balance of of
Speaker:profitability through championing their unique purpose.
Speaker:We guide them to develop that identity messaging, develop the
Speaker:actionable strategy for show and then help execute the marketing
Speaker:campaigns that result in measurable results and impact.
Speaker:Awesome. And what what do you, what are you noticing in terms of
Speaker:people coming to you? Like, what are they saying that they they need the help
Speaker:with or or maybe even the struggles that they're having
Speaker:prior to reaching out to you. Yeah. It's almost it's almost in
Speaker:what they're not saying. Right? So one of the first questions I like to ask
Speaker:a potential client or someone I'm working with is, tell me what you do. Tell
Speaker:me about your business. And you usually get some long winded sort of
Speaker:rambling explanation of it. And right then and there is kind of
Speaker:the first kind of signal of if they are not clear
Speaker:with who they are, what they do, and how they serve, how can their
Speaker:customers expect To connect with them and understand.
Speaker:You know, so, basically, the pain points, hey. I'm feeling
Speaker:Overwhelmed, stuck, stagnant. I'm lacking
Speaker:clarity of where I'm going and how I'm gonna get there.
Speaker:And the initial symptoms tend to be, I need more leads. I need
Speaker:more business. I need more revenue. To which point I say, let's pump the
Speaker:brakes. Before we start diving in to doing all of these digital marketing
Speaker:tactics, which we do, we gotta start at the beginning. We gotta start measure twice,
Speaker:cut once. And that starts for us in brand discovery.
Speaker:Getting a really clear understanding and audit,
Speaker:of what your brand is, what you stand for what sets you apart in the
Speaker:marketplace and what the true value is that you serve and provide for
Speaker:your customers. Once you've got that in place, Then, yes, we can
Speaker:start to put the bones together of that visual presence and
Speaker:storytelling and the campaign for growth. But a lot of people
Speaker:wanna, you know, Skip a few steps and get to these
Speaker:marketing tactics, which I'm sure you've seen as well have just
Speaker:diminishing returns if you are not Crystal
Speaker:clear in your message. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean,
Speaker:we're bombarded with emails and webinars
Speaker:and social media posts and podcasts
Speaker:all the time. And everyone is sharing this tactic or
Speaker:that tactic, and sh and, you you we'd even
Speaker:get influenced by really slick copy and go, oh, yeah. I need to be
Speaker:doing that in my business. And I think also the desperation of,
Speaker:I need clients like yesterday. Like, we're emerging here.
Speaker:Like, how how can you help me get businesses today
Speaker:our business today? And sh I I love what you just said. It's like, let's
Speaker:pump the brakes a little bit. Let's let's solve the problem here. Otherwise, we're just,
Speaker:you know, we're we're just gonna make it worse. But what what what's the reaction
Speaker:that you get when you when you when you say that because I think it's
Speaker:really smart to do, and I say that often as well. And,
Speaker:because you do have to take a step back if you're really gonna solve problem
Speaker:and not just need customers, need customers, need customers.
Speaker:What what what are you noticing there? Yeah. Look. You can't
Speaker:solve long term with short term fixes.
Speaker:Okay? So I've seen this happen time and time again. Look. I've been there as
Speaker:well. I've I've I've Spun my wheels on this, you know, building and growing a
Speaker:business. Looking for those quick fixes, those growth
Speaker:hacks, those ten x your revenue overnight, you know, those empty
Speaker:promises. And that stuff, most
Speaker:of the time, if not all the time, gonna work. And it's certainly not gonna
Speaker:work sustainably to grow the business.
Speaker:So, you know, one of the biggest things that we
Speaker:look at is like you said, we're bombarded by
Speaker:thousands of communications marketing messages per day. Sh Our brains are
Speaker:wired to filter out the crap and only
Speaker:let in the things that resonate and connect with us on a deeper level.
Speaker:Right. So if you are able to develop a deeper kind of
Speaker:connection and bond and really kind of invite your customer into a story with
Speaker:aligned value and purpose, Then you're getting somewhere.
Speaker:But, you know, back to what a lot of these organizations are doing, they're
Speaker:in this reaction mode, and you're gonna end up
Speaker:spending countless amounts of money and time
Speaker:on these quick fix tactics that can never work
Speaker:as well as they potentially could without a really clear
Speaker:singular, you know, story and message. It sounds like this is really
Speaker:the foundation of what everyone should have. So, I
Speaker:mean, well, let's let's unpack that a little bit. First
Speaker:of all, how did you how did you find yourself
Speaker:specializing in this particular type of
Speaker:marketing or marketing strategy. I mean, everyone's got their
Speaker:thing. Yours is brand storytelling, and you're also
Speaker:CMO. You know, how did you find yourself
Speaker:specializing in this? So good question. I
Speaker:Little not not too little secret. My background is not in
Speaker:marketing, and it is not in branding. It's actually in storytelling. So I started my
Speaker:career as sh An independent filmmaker, a writer, director,
Speaker:producer telling stories because I love the way it impact and
Speaker:inspired people. You know, going through kind of the starving artist phase, you know, led
Speaker:me to say, okay. Well, how can I position this for businesses and brands? And
Speaker:began to be commissioned by Some pretty large organizations
Speaker:that this was the dawn of branded content and brand storytelling.
Speaker:What do we create? What do we say? How do we say it? How do
Speaker:we reach people? So storytelling is in my DNA, and I do believe that that
Speaker:is the core, you know, x factor in any
Speaker:good brand strategy or or marketing. And I do believe that
Speaker:show. Branding has to come first, as the lens in which you
Speaker:see the world, and then marketing is the how and how you deploy that.
Speaker:Right? So storytelling is kind of key. I'm a
Speaker:big I'm a big supporter of, you know, the story brand framework, which
Speaker:really allows you to simply and clearly put, You know,
Speaker:the core elements of your brand story into a coherent framework. I get
Speaker:it all the time from clients that say, well, I'm not a storyteller. I don't
Speaker:know how to tell stories. I I don't have an interesting story to tell,
Speaker:and I say that's BS. You do. You just haven't
Speaker:you know, we haven't gotten there yet. And so that's kinda one of the fun
Speaker:parts of getting there with a client. But, yeah, I definitely do not have a
Speaker:traditional route or background,
Speaker:Working for an agency or major brands. I've kinda gone about
Speaker:it in a little bit of, an alternative route. Yeah.
Speaker:Well, I I love I love that, actually, because
Speaker:you're you're bringing that skill of being a storyteller
Speaker:to marketing rather than bringing story tell you know,
Speaker:rather than being a marketer and then trying to become a good storyteller.
Speaker:And, you know, and so sh and not everybody
Speaker:does feel like they're a good brand, not brand storyteller, but
Speaker:storyteller in general. And you see so much copy, and I and I and I
Speaker:attend a lot of working events, I mean, a lot. And you
Speaker:can tell the ones that really have figured out, you know,
Speaker:how to explain what they do in a way that draws
Speaker:people in. Yeah. And then others that are
Speaker:explaining what they do, and you're like, what are you talking
Speaker:about? Yeah. You you you've lost me somewhere.
Speaker:Yeah. Exactly. And and and, you know, a lot of that tends to be,
Speaker:like, the the name of their package or the name you know,
Speaker:the some made up title that they've given given themselves
Speaker:or, features of their of their product
Speaker:or service. And and and so it's, you
Speaker:know and and also clever names that they give
Speaker:their their programs and their processes and stuff. I mean, I just don't
Speaker:get it. So what what are you noticing out there, and, you know, what, you
Speaker:you know, how do we move away from that and more into telling a
Speaker:story that draws people in? Yeah. I mean,
Speaker:You know, my my belief is working with and for what I consider to be
Speaker:purpose driven organizations. To me, brand purpose
Speaker:is really this is really kind of the defining element of what I
Speaker:believe are are are the most successful businesses and brands
Speaker:today. We're going through this shift where we've been through it. I
Speaker:mean, we've we've shifted from the old model of really shape
Speaker:shareholder driven capitalism to a more stakeholder
Speaker:driven economy in capitalism or conscious capitalism. And what that means
Speaker:is the stakeholders, your employees, your customers,
Speaker:Have more say in seat at the table, and they are demanding
Speaker:to you know, they they are they are demanding of of
Speaker:brands In sharing authentically what they stand for, what they
Speaker:believe in, how they're how they are making a greater good beyond
Speaker:the bottom line. Sh Right. And the the data and the
Speaker:research is is endless. Okay? You know, people are are
Speaker:willing to pay more, sh or,
Speaker:will willing to pay more. They wanna work for and they wanna
Speaker:invest in these purpose driven organizations. Sh Right. So it it it
Speaker:checks multiple boxes. You know, just a quick
Speaker:statistic. You know, 82 per 82% of customers, They'll
Speaker:make purchase decisions with purpose in mind,
Speaker:and yet brands are still struggling to kinda get that in the forefront of their
Speaker:messaging. Their consumers are are 4 to 6 times more likely to
Speaker:purchase from, protect, and champion purpose driven brands. So I'm
Speaker:not talking about the businesses and products that are just Operating on, you know, a
Speaker:race to the bottom lowest price. Right? There can only be 1 winner and lowest
Speaker:price. But how else are you gonna differentiate in your marketplace? And what
Speaker:what do you stand for? That to me is this,
Speaker:you know, this this movement, this new generation,
Speaker:millennials, gen z, it's even getting more compelling, and people
Speaker:wanted to buy from, work for, and invest in these value aligned
Speaker:companies. Mhmm. Well, let's speak about, more about
Speaker:value aligned companies and just even the the types of companies that you work with
Speaker:in general. I mean, who who are you finding coming into your world
Speaker:and that you're really, serving. I mean, is there a certain
Speaker:type of business that is kind of
Speaker:drawn to what you do or that you specialize in?
Speaker:Yeah. It's a good question. So there's what I would consider to be evident,
Speaker:purpose driven organizations, nonprofits foundation that are really
Speaker:rooted in a cause or a purpose and a passion, but they're
Speaker:often lacking the clarity. Right? You see, there's a lot of
Speaker:nonprofit organizations. The structure, the clarity, the marketing prowess,
Speaker:and even the branding to communicate their message. So that's really where we help them,
Speaker:Reach More People, Impact More Lives. On the b two b front,
Speaker:right, these organizations a lot of times that, You know, whether
Speaker:you're a start up or you've been around for some time,
Speaker:there's this feeling uninspired or stuck or
Speaker:stagnant with where you are. Maybe you've gotten some modicum of success,
Speaker:but it hasn't put you over the edge, or you're struggling to differentiate yourself
Speaker:in a crowded marketplace. And
Speaker:those leaders and founders, you know, most of the time,
Speaker:they wanna do more than just turn profit. They wanna leave a lasting legacy.
Speaker:They wanna leave a lasting impact, whether that's for the the culture,
Speaker:and welfare of their employees or their community or, you
Speaker:know, the world at large. So it's a
Speaker:belief in around doing some you know, what do you believe beyond the bottom
Speaker:line? If you can even entertain that question, let
Speaker:alone ask yourself that question. That's an ideal
Speaker:client. Oh, I love that. And, you know, I
Speaker:mean, that tends to be a lot of the type people that we meet in
Speaker:the work that we do are people that are obviously
Speaker:selling something and would like to do that profitably.
Speaker:Right. Massive amounts of profit is not
Speaker:their primary goal. It's really how do I serve? How do I
Speaker:improve humanity. How do I improve even just the lives of my
Speaker:clients? Some filter out into, you know, community
Speaker:world, all that kind of stuff. But, but beyond
Speaker:beyond just here's what I do in my business, and I I'm
Speaker:serving my shareholders and and making as much profit
Speaker:as humanly possible. I so I love all of that. And
Speaker:how do you think, the mindset of that type of
Speaker:entrepreneur difference from maybe other other types of business
Speaker:owners in term you know, just from your experience. Yeah. Again, I think
Speaker:it resides in in the reality that we're living in a stakeholder driven economy right
Speaker:now. I think it's a little more enlightened entrepreneur
Speaker:that not just, sh You know, look. If if you have a burning desire to
Speaker:make an impact and change in the world, that's amazing. You
Speaker:know, not everyone comes to to the table with that. But
Speaker:tactically, strategically, right, as I've shared with
Speaker:you, it benefits your ability to grow and
Speaker:and and make a profitable business by differentiating yourself in the
Speaker:market. And the best way to do that is through that kind of
Speaker:clear message and purpose. People buy on a you know,
Speaker:they filter through emotion first and logic second. Right?
Speaker:The way that you build Lifelong
Speaker:deep relationships with your customers, like the apples or the
Speaker:Patagonias of the world, right, is through an identity
Speaker:that people are willing to pay more for and
Speaker:and stand in, you know, hour long lines down the block,
Speaker:to get to get what you're serving. So it's
Speaker:it's yeah. It's it's a again, do good in the world, sh
Speaker:but do well. It's the strategic it's becoming a strategic advantage with
Speaker:a more conscious consumer,
Speaker:that Really is looking for those brands that align with their values.
Speaker:Mhmm. We still have lots more to cover here,
Speaker:but I I sh everything you're saying resonates a
Speaker:100% with with me and and a lot of the people
Speaker:that we connect with just through the the networking that we
Speaker:do in our community. And, if
Speaker:anyone listening in to this episode right now. If you're resonating
Speaker:with what you're hearing, we have all of Chase's
Speaker:contact information stuff beneath the video and in the podcast
Speaker:notes. And we'll talk a little bit more later about how to connect with
Speaker:him. And, I think he has a free gift for us as well, but we're
Speaker:gonna hold on. We'll listen to the rest of the episode. But just I just
Speaker:wanted to, point that out because and, Chase, the
Speaker:reason I do that is, sh you know, it some
Speaker:people are going well, like, yes. This is exactly the type
Speaker:of help that I've been looking for. Sh and,
Speaker:and and so they don't have to wait through 30 minutes of I
Speaker:love it. Of podcast episodes. So we wanna just help to connect the dots
Speaker:there. So, so let's talk a little bit of, you
Speaker:know, we we've talked about the problems that, you know, the
Speaker:your, the types of businesses that you serve are are facing.
Speaker:We've talked a little bit about, the type you know, who they are
Speaker:and what some of their values are. Sh you know, anyone who's,
Speaker:listening in right now and going, okay. Great. I
Speaker:resonate with this. What do I do? Right? So what do you think some
Speaker:of and like you said earlier, pump the brakes. Right? Because it's
Speaker:like yeah. We're just we keep layering more tactics
Speaker:on top of other tactics and on top of other tactics, and
Speaker:we're trying to get today clients and solve the cash flow issues of
Speaker:today, but we're really sacrificing, you know, the
Speaker:stability and the sustainability of the future as well. So, you
Speaker:know, what are your thoughts on that? And then, you know, what what what do
Speaker:you think are the next steps that people should take shoe, to
Speaker:deal with that. Yeah. So the 1st step that we take is
Speaker:really in in doing a deep brand discovery. Sh And we put together
Speaker:really a comprehensive, plan strategy
Speaker:guide that we call a brand blueprint. And a and a brand
Speaker:blueprint is really a combination of, you
Speaker:know, 3 core phases. Right? Sh What is your
Speaker:brand core? Your purpose, your vision, your values, you know,
Speaker:that internal things that are kinda your guiding north star as a business and a
Speaker:brand. Brand positioning. Right? So how do
Speaker:you stack that up and align that within the minds of your customers and
Speaker:personas within your competitors in the marketplace and kind of defining
Speaker:your unique advantage, your value prop, your onlyness, whatever you wanna call
Speaker:it. And then finally, is that brand personality. How do you bring
Speaker:that all to life, in a way that is authentic and clear and
Speaker:compelling, the voice, the tone, the messaging? Sh How do you how do you,
Speaker:you know, not just be a clinical brand that talks about features and benefits,
Speaker:but speaks 1 to 1 humanly to to the people you're trying to serve.
Speaker:So that blueprint really provides a great framework to help
Speaker:guide everything that you do in your business sh
Speaker:From internal collateral to website to social media campaigns to
Speaker:marketing and outbound, you gotta have that core foundation
Speaker:in place. And that's slide. You know, again, talking about a
Speaker:blueprint, give the analogy of, a playbook in football.
Speaker:Right? Unless the entire team knows that
Speaker:play, inside and out. You know, one missing
Speaker:piece of that can can can create a disaster. You've all gotta be
Speaker:operating off the same playbook so that you can have success, execute
Speaker:plays, grow your business, what have you.
Speaker:Yeah. So, yeah, so so smart. And, you
Speaker:know, I think in some of the conversations I have,
Speaker:It's very clear that some are not operating from a playbook,
Speaker:but they're operating very day to day, sometimes even hour
Speaker:to hour, minute to minute. I mean, they're so reactionary to the things that are
Speaker:happening. But what you're saying
Speaker:is, you know, by having a playbook, you're being proactive. You have a
Speaker:plan and you're and and you kind of, you you
Speaker:know what you're trying to achieve and you know how you plan to achieve.
Speaker:Is that what you're talking about there with the playbook? The 2 key the the
Speaker:the 2 things about that is getting the clarity, Right? Over
Speaker:who you are, what your message is, why, how, and what of your
Speaker:business, but also the consistency. And that's the other thing. You
Speaker:see these businesses Going day to day constantly
Speaker:pivoting their message and their approach, which is confusing
Speaker:to them as well as their customers.
Speaker:So it's getting the clarity first, but having that that framework,
Speaker:that blueprint for consistency so that it really touches
Speaker:all consumer touch points, of your
Speaker:business. Love it. So let's talk
Speaker:about stage of business a little bit because I I I hear it all the
Speaker:time. Okay? I yeah. That that's good for this kind of business or
Speaker:that, and we get we've got the whole range here in our audience. We have
Speaker:people who identify as solopreneurs. They're really doing
Speaker:everything themselves. We're trying to encourage them to do a lot less themselves.
Speaker:Some of them are moving towards that by having some VAs or
Speaker:maybe a small team all the way up to companies that, you know, they
Speaker:have teams, they have some systems, but they're
Speaker:they're to make them better. And, and so
Speaker:what are you, what what do you recommend? Like, at what stage
Speaker:in business. Do you think somebody should be thinking about
Speaker:this? Is it is it something you do from day 1, or do you have
Speaker:to hit a certain point where it's like, oh, okay. Now I'm ready for
Speaker:this. No. Yeah. I I look. I think I think
Speaker:brand strategy and identity is core that's foundational to
Speaker:every business. You've gotta start there. I don't care whether you've been, you know,
Speaker:1st day of business as a solopreneur show. Or you've been around for 10,
Speaker:20 years, and you just haven't really quite nailed it yet, because we've worked with
Speaker:both. This is to me, is the starting
Speaker:the starting point Because it really does impact and
Speaker:guide everything else that that comes after
Speaker:that. Right? You know, there's there's a great quote
Speaker:by Napoleon Hill, you know, who wrote the
Speaker:17 principles of success. You know, a man without a definite major per or
Speaker:definite major purpose is a is as helpless as a ship without a compass.
Speaker:Right? Take that approach whether you're an individual solopreneur
Speaker:sh business. If you do not have that clarity and that purpose and that
Speaker:strategy to guide your ship,
Speaker:Steve, good luck good luck navigating the stormy seas
Speaker:because there will be storms. So I think it's it's paramount,
Speaker:the first and core thing that that they do and invest in.
Speaker:Yeah. Absolutely. Well, it's along those lines,
Speaker:I mean, sh one of the reasons why we in invite people
Speaker:to our show and why we invited you is that, not only do you have
Speaker:a great message and great work that you do, sh, but we
Speaker:also see you as someone who's great, a great collaborator
Speaker:and someone who, should be brought in if the
Speaker:if this is the missing piece of the puzzle in
Speaker:in your business. I mean, we see you as someone who would
Speaker:be ideal to reach out to and potentially bring bring in to
Speaker:solve this problem. And, it kinda ties into the theme of this
Speaker:show. We call it creative collaboration show for a reason is that
Speaker:is let's not try to figure out everything ourselves, but there's
Speaker:other people out there who are experts and brilliant and genius at what
Speaker:they do. Sh and let's find ways to bring them
Speaker:in, whether it be just to hire them or collaborate with them or
Speaker:partner with them or whatever. And we wanna inspire our
Speaker:audience to to to think more like that instead
Speaker:of, oh, I'm gonna Google something. I'm like, oh, okay. Well, there's the tactic of
Speaker:the day, and that's what I'm gonna do there. So, so I've got a couple
Speaker:of questions along those lines. Sure. First of all,
Speaker:what's your approach to collaborations, partnerships,
Speaker:working with others? Is it something you actively do, and, you know,
Speaker:how has that made a difference in your business? Yeah. That's that's
Speaker:honestly what fuels and drives me. Right? You know, we we we kind of
Speaker:have a small but mighty team. And so we are
Speaker:we cert we aren't staffed or we don't, position
Speaker:ourselves to be the know all, you know, the be all elixir, you
Speaker:know, silver bullet solution. Myself, you know, I
Speaker:believe in surrounding my myself with people that are stronger than
Speaker:me in in areas that I'm not as efficient in.
Speaker:I think it just makes for a greater sort of impact. And
Speaker:so I love like, that's probably one of my greatest joys
Speaker:is is connecting like people like like minded people
Speaker:that could be complimentary. I do with my clients quite a bit.
Speaker:You know, it's just hey. We serve this client who's a
Speaker:nonprofit, and they have an aligned mission with your business. You 2 should get together
Speaker:and do a campaign together, Whether it involves us or not.
Speaker:So I always believe in bringing in people that are, you know, the
Speaker:smartest people in the room whenever possible, sh because that's when
Speaker:real when real magic happens. If you're sitting in kind of a vortex in a
Speaker:bubble with group think, you know,
Speaker:you you're not gonna really kinda solve the bigger picture challenges.
Speaker:Brilliant. So I obviously, she do have that mindset,
Speaker:and it's it's it's something that you're, open to. What what would
Speaker:you say is, your go to method when
Speaker:you when you identify maybe a piece of the puzzle in your business you're trying
Speaker:to have fill or or maybe you're working on a project and and
Speaker:and you're looking for someone with a particular skill set or someone to collaborate
Speaker:with, where do you where do you go looking? I mean, that's the question I
Speaker:get from a lot of people is, like, sh where do I find people? And
Speaker:so what's your go to method? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I just trying to build
Speaker:a robust network. Right? I try and reach out to a lot of people and
Speaker:and and do kind of brief little 15 minute, you know, virtual
Speaker:coffee introductions with people that I find interesting. They might have
Speaker:zero relationship, or correlation to what I
Speaker:do, but they're doing interesting things in the world. And so
Speaker:that to me is just trying to build Good connections, good
Speaker:relationships without really an agenda at the onset. You know, I
Speaker:believe if you've you know, a good relationship will manifest into
Speaker:something at the right time and place. You never know when that's gonna come
Speaker:up. And so I think just diversifying the way I meet
Speaker:people. You know, networking events, Yes. Absolutely. I should probably be doing more of
Speaker:that. I gotta talk to you about that. But, you know,
Speaker:podcasting, getting to meet you and understand, you know, what you do,
Speaker:LinkedIn is a great way to do it. I always opt for
Speaker:unknown relationship versus someone blind and cold. You have to go out and
Speaker:vet. So I'll also ask Trusted people within my
Speaker:network. Hey. Who have you worked with? Who do you really love that does,
Speaker:you know, x, y, or z? That is a paid media specialist
Speaker:or, you know, a graphic design ace wizard in this
Speaker:industry. And then and then the
Speaker:key is paying it forward. You know, anytime I can
Speaker:see a blind spot in a client or just someone that I work with,
Speaker:it's, you know what? Hey. I know someone that be of value to you. If
Speaker:you're interested, give this person a call.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Well, those kinds of connections are
Speaker:very, very powerful. I I love whenever
Speaker:we receive personal introductions. We we give
Speaker:them out all the time. We like to be connectors. Connecting the
Speaker:dots really, really, really does help. We're big on networking.
Speaker:Podcasting is a great way to get to know somebody. Hosting a show. I think
Speaker:everybody should host a show. And and so sh and
Speaker:it's not why I started it, really. It's you know, actually, I just
Speaker:started it because I thought it'd be really cool to be a pod to have
Speaker:a podcast. And then I realized, well, wait a minute. I'm getting to know
Speaker:people that I've never met before or who I'd like to know
Speaker:more. Sh I'm getting a chance to know more about them, and so
Speaker:it's been great for that as well. And then just the relationships. You
Speaker:don't have to do business with everybody you meet, but just getting yourself
Speaker:known, I think. And and or do you know
Speaker:anybody who who's good at this or that? And and and
Speaker:so developing that network for sure. Networking meetings
Speaker:are great, but they can be very time consuming and,
Speaker:hit or miss in terms of getting to the right people. Overwhelming. Yeah.
Speaker:It's not as intimate or personal. There's there's, I I
Speaker:truly prefer a more intimate setting. Show. There's different kind of workshops
Speaker:or masterminds that I'm part of where it's a pretty
Speaker:niche group of, Let's say people in the branding or
Speaker:marketing space or, you know, I'm a I'm a member of
Speaker:1% for the planet. So we donate, you know,
Speaker:1% of our total annual revenue to, nonprofits
Speaker:that are are fighting, you know, climate change and solving kind of, you know,
Speaker:that issue. That's a really cool group of
Speaker:sort of mission value aligned people organizations
Speaker:that you can just have a great conversation with. What is kind
Speaker:of that common thread? So, finding the more targeted groups versus
Speaker:just, You know, en masse at a multi, you know, 100 or 1000
Speaker:person networking event is is more my preference and
Speaker:speed. Yeah. I'm I'm with you on that one for sure. Well,
Speaker:Chase, thank you for weighing in on that. And and just for everything you've
Speaker:shared with us today. It's been amazing. And,
Speaker:you know, before we kinda let you go, I just wanna, get from you a
Speaker:couple things. Number 1, I know you have a free gift to get
Speaker:you to talk a little bit about that. But, also, anyone listening in to this
Speaker:right now and still listening, probably
Speaker:a great next step would be to reach out to Chase and just see how
Speaker:he can help you. He and his team are standing by to to
Speaker:help or at least start with the conversation. Explore
Speaker:how they might be able to help. And, I I believe there's a reason
Speaker:why you're still listening right now, so so do that. I have,
Speaker:all your contact information beneath this video and in the podcast show
Speaker:notes so, they can connect with you there. But tell us a little bit about
Speaker:the gift you have for us, and, and and we'll put the links
Speaker:to that there as well. Yeah. So, you know, really,
Speaker:it's it's kind of a our playbook, our framework for our brand
Speaker:blueprint. It's an ebook that we offer, on our
Speaker:website as as as well as a few other resources. But, really, it's the primer.
Speaker:It's that first step to really start to get you thinking around
Speaker:What is my brand identity and positioning and strategy? So I talked about
Speaker:brand blueprint a little bit earlier. This is a really
Speaker:great free, Easy to use kind of resource to kinda get
Speaker:the juices flowing. And, of course, you know, always happy to have a
Speaker:conversation, you know, do a discovery call with you. Really just to understand, you
Speaker:You know, where you're at, what's holding your back, what are some of the challenges
Speaker:and pain points, and then exploring some of the solutions that can
Speaker:help you break free from that cycle. So start with that
Speaker:that that brand blueprint. Give it a try. If you get stuck, give me a
Speaker:call and go from there. Fantastic. Well, you can get that brand
Speaker:blueprint by. Again, clicking the link just beneath this video, it's also there
Speaker:in the podcast show notes. Chase's contact information
Speaker:is there as well. Show. So, Chase, thank you so much for being on
Speaker:the show. This has been, time well spent. I've really enjoyed getting to know a
Speaker:little bit more about you and your and your business, and and and I
Speaker:think your approach, I mean, from 1, you know,
Speaker:socially conscious entrepreneur to another, I really
Speaker:appreciate, where you're coming from, on all of this.
Speaker:So, now before I let you go, I just wanna ask 1 question. This has
Speaker:become a little bit of a social experiment and just something that I
Speaker:started asking. But, everyone has had a different answer to it, and it's
Speaker:not what I thought was gonna happen. But, sh so much of growing in business
Speaker:and growing ourselves is is about learning. I've learned a tremendous
Speaker:amount of stuff from books. Sh everyone's got their
Speaker:favorite. And so I just wanted to ask you if you if you could leave
Speaker:everyone with 1 must read book recommendation
Speaker:that's been, you know, you know,
Speaker:something that's inspired you or that, is one of your
Speaker:favorites. Which one would you recommend? Yeah. Good. Great
Speaker:question. So one book I
Speaker:really love, which is kind of a a tome and a testament to this movement
Speaker:around purpose, show called Good is the New Cool.
Speaker:And I've got 2 books. I think 1 is kind of really around,
Speaker:brand and then the other is kind of about marketing. But good is the new
Speaker:cool. Really kind of it's inherent in the title. It's it's saying
Speaker:that, You're doing good in the world has become the en vogue and the kind
Speaker:of more profitable model for business. It's Aftel and Bobby Jones wrote it,
Speaker:and they've got an amazing Organization called conspiracy of
Speaker:love that you can, I think, sign up for free for newsletters,
Speaker:but check that out? If you're interested in, you know, that whole
Speaker:paradigm of do good and do well, this is a great read.
Speaker:That's a fantastic I've never heard of that one before. I'm gonna go check that
Speaker:out. That's perfect. Yeah. So thank you
Speaker:so much, Chase, for, recommending that, and I I think that's a
Speaker:that's a nice capper to, what I think has been a a great
Speaker:episode. And, I just can wanna remind our
Speaker:audience stat. You know, there's a reason why you're here and listening to us right
Speaker:now. So if you haven't already, reach out to Chase, go grab the
Speaker:branding blueprint, and, make this time well spent for
Speaker:you. And, and, also, if you were inspired
Speaker:by anything that we said today and sh and maybe this is breathe new
Speaker:life into some of the plans that you have and some of the goals that
Speaker:you have and or or maybe, leading you towards a solution to an
Speaker:obstacle you're trying to overcome in your business. I would like you to think
Speaker:of 1 action you could take today and then do
Speaker:that one thing today. And maybe it is just reaching out to Chase. That's a
Speaker:great action to take. I mean and he's you can see he's very easy to
Speaker:talk to. Love it. We we've just spent 32 minutes, talking
Speaker:here, and didn't hurt at all. So there you go. Hopefully, game
Speaker:list. Yeah. So, thank
Speaker:you to our audience. Thank you to Chase. Now, Chase, before we, you
Speaker:know, to just kinda, bring this episode in for a landing, if you
Speaker:were to leave our audience here with just 1 final piece of advice or
Speaker:words of wisdom. What would you leave them here with today?
Speaker:Yeah. Simple. It's it's you have the
Speaker:ability to do good and do well in the world. You know? It does not
Speaker:have to be all about Profitability and bottom line, and it doesn't have
Speaker:to be all about just kind of bleeding heart, saving the world. You can have
Speaker:both. You can find that balance. And what better mix? Right? Doing
Speaker:well in business. You're making a living for yourself and your family, and you
Speaker:feel good about the lasting impact you have in the world. So, you know,
Speaker:Find that pursuit and that balance of do good and do well.
Speaker:Do good and do well. Great words to end this episode by. Chase.
Speaker:Thank you. And to our audience, thank you. This has been another
Speaker:episode of the Creative Collaboration Show with Chuck Anderson. My
Speaker:guest has been Chase Friedman, show. And