Dom and James are joined by former Wednesday Carlos Carvalhal, on the anniversary of that fateful weekend in London four years ago.
We talk about his time in charge of the Owls, his thoughts on the play-off final and whether he'd do anything differently in that game if he could go back.
Carlos also tells us about his continued close friendship with Dejphon Chansiri what he regrets from his third season in charge at Hillsborough.
He also reveals why he expects to be back in England next season - and lots lots more.
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