Episode #80 Season 24: Shaun Boyce & Justin Yeo
On this episode of 10 Minutes of Tennis, Shaun and Justin talk about the retirement of Rafael Nadal and what it means for the tour.
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Speaker:Today, this is 10 minutes of tennis with World renowned Tennis Coach Australian in Puerto Rico,
Speaker:Justin Yeo, and we are going to talk about what everybody is talking about,
Speaker:which is the retirement of Rafael Nadal.
Speaker:So, before I start reading off headlines and what the questions are and what everybody else thinks
Speaker:we should talk about, Justin, what's your first response to Rafa calling it quits?
Speaker:It's about time.
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Speaker:Give it up, buddy.
Speaker:I just wish you all the best.
Speaker:We feature the guy with the battle horse, and he just went through everything.
Speaker:I remember 2010, meeting with Umka Tony and talking about his 2009 string open title.
Speaker:We had a great discussion because Tony was explaining that he came off with
Speaker:sending final against Fadafoe all night.
Speaker:It was a rain delay during the tournament, so he had to play Saturday in the semi-final against
Speaker:Fadafoe when five sets.
Speaker:He got up the next morning and played federally in the final.
Speaker:Tony talks about it that, you know, about five to 10 minutes,
Speaker:Rafael was like, "Can't do this."
Speaker:He's totally bleeding.
Speaker:His fingers were hurting.
Speaker:Fighting with sore.
Speaker:It's not about the previous.
Speaker:Tony just turned around and said, "Well,
Speaker:we said we wouldn't be out of the federation, but not on the hardquets in China."
Speaker:Sorry.
Speaker:Now, so do you.
Speaker:So we trained on for another 45 minutes and then the federation fought.
Speaker:Now it's 2009.
Speaker:So, we're now 2024 and multiple performance and physical therapist guys all said that
Speaker:you'd be lucky to make 2012 with the injuries available.
Speaker:So it's just absolutely being the markable.
Speaker:So you're like, keep going as far and be as successful as he is.
Speaker:And I have to give him two days of the most out of all the players,
Speaker:because there's no one that has evolved their game and their physicality.
Speaker:To keep playing, you know, federally probably could have done a little bit of difference for
Speaker:a chance a couple of things.
Speaker:Maybe come forward a bit earlier and see if he could last a little longer.
Speaker:Instead, he was like,
Speaker:I'm done playing my game.
Speaker:That's it.
Speaker:My dial switched and switched and switched and switched.
Speaker:So very impressed.
Speaker:So I think the boss won, but they get to that point we have to wish him the best so that they enjoy
Speaker:the rest of their life.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:One of the headlines says, "Rafael Nadal did not retire" quote as he would have liked.
Speaker:What do you think is going on?
Speaker:You think he wishes he could go out on top?
Speaker:I mean, is that kind of the concept there?
Speaker:No, but I think he would have rather retired at French-Hoting.
Speaker:But he could have done that.
Speaker:I mean, he could have retired this year.
Speaker:That's what you're saying.
Speaker:It's about time, meaning he should have just said,
Speaker:"You know what, guys, you're right. I'm out."
Speaker:He could have done that at the end of this last French-Hoting.
Speaker:He could have, but he wanted to come back and play Spain.
Speaker:And he wanted to, and he wanted to finish on his note.
Speaker:You know, and if there's anything like I said, 2009-2012,
Speaker:2010, things like '18, you know, both also in Pizzy-Prieve.
Speaker:I don't know how this guy can keep going.
Speaker:The wheat changes, the muscle proficient.
Speaker:I mean, there were so many things in just kept.
Speaker:And then taking the ball off the baseline and coming to the net and changing his server,
Speaker:and making him survive a little longer. And that was a risk in the first place.
Speaker:Right? And then Moya just said, "We're going to keep going.
Speaker:This is what we've got to do."
Speaker:And he took 20-30% off his ball time.
Speaker:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker:So Moya wouldn't know because Moya was of the generation where the Claycourt players
Speaker:didn't last very long because they were just peed up at the end of five to seven years.
Speaker:I mean, to say, if you really want to play Roger Federer's got a very efficient game,
Speaker:less so than I think most people think.
Speaker:Like, it wasn't the third volley efficiency.
Speaker:But a very efficient game, he wins quickly, can shorten the point.
Speaker:You've got to figure out how to do that.
Speaker:And like you said, with the technique changes and the adjustments and his ability to volley,
Speaker:remember that Claycourt or back in the day that could volley?
Speaker:No, neither do I.
Speaker:And this guy coming in with perfect technique and being able to finish points at the net
Speaker:was a complete change from that culture.
Speaker:Yeah, well, I mean, you had to listen to Mr. McIner, right?
Speaker:I mean, John said that Graffin's got probably the best volley in the whole game.
Speaker:Yeah, and what do you mean there's two far back in the court?
Speaker:Yeah, but he's a Claycourt guy.
Speaker:Act like court.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:I mean, I've seen Jocovic close to the baseline and when the French open,
Speaker:if you look at Barraica, same thing,
Speaker:we would weigh up on the baseline and we could do well at the French.
Speaker:So I wouldn't necessarily label all Claycourt players 19 to fact,
Speaker:but that was one of his signatures, Raffa, which is weighing you down.
Speaker:And I always always just be saying to junior development,
Speaker:it's not about necessarily beating a guy off the court.
Speaker:It's actually beating him in challenge and the fight that makes it harder.
Speaker:So out round he's somebody actually is harder on a person than being passed and winneth all day long.
Speaker:So the hardest thing is to lose to someone when it's your own racket and you're trying
Speaker:to just battle with them.
Speaker:And that guy just a little bit stronger, a little bit cleaner and just doesn't miss, you know.
Speaker:It's the hardest thing to take. You're like, oh my god, it was right there. Oh my god, I had this.
Speaker:There's always things and Raffa's got this signature.
Speaker:He just weighed down and we're going to miss him.
Speaker:He just got a voice about it.
Speaker:Both Kings that are going on and out have a voice about him.
Speaker:They were great examples for the generations coming.
Speaker:They were just amazing.
Speaker:So we're going to miss him, but at the same time we go to the point and go wish him back well and let the new
Speaker:wife come in.
Speaker:Yeah, let the younger guys come.
Speaker:One more thing on Raffa specifically, a right-handed person that was turned into a left-handed tennis
Speaker:player intentionally. Are we going to see more of that? Look at the success of what's the guy's name,
Speaker:the British guy that just made the semis of the US open.
Speaker:I don't know why I can't think of his name.
Speaker:But you're talking about guys that are, you got coaches that are saying to the four and five-year-old
Speaker:kids, yeah, you're right-handed. That's fine, but you're going to be a lefty because there is some
Speaker:inherent advantage. Do we think we're going to see more of that? Is that something that's a thing
Speaker:or is it just going to be as rare as it always was?
Speaker:Well, from the information on you, they didn't know you was lefty until later.
Speaker:They didn't know that. So he was like in the high up in the world in 12 and 14 when they realized
Speaker:he was running the money. And just said, well, he is where he is now. We got changed now.
Speaker:But parents, parent knows he's going to pick up a crayon with his right hand.
Speaker:No, that can't back in, you know.
Speaker:He plays golf right-handed. Somebody had to know.
Speaker:Well, interestingly, I can say that, right? He didn't really draw a playing golf.
Speaker:And if you're sorry to play soccer, you play both feet.
Speaker:Play both feet very well. There's the same obvious there, yeah.
Speaker:In any video footage of him, he's both feet were just ridiculous.
Speaker:In any footage of you watched him in soccer, he just dominated a field and just had people
Speaker:flabbergasted on the other side, left and right. So I don't know, it's...
Speaker:Again, we all know, too, that lefty is filled up all more and I'm empty, yes.
Speaker:So I can understand both sides of what he did. He must have just
Speaker:been comfortable more lefty, so they left that happened. But later on,
Speaker:started identifying things. So we could throw a ball very much stronger on the right than the left,
Speaker:which, you know, maybe he would have been a bigger server than what I was.
Speaker:But the guy, uh, would generally left me and hurt a lot of people.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah. And Jack Draper is the name that I was trying to think of who's...
Speaker:I'll give it a try. He's Draper, so you told me.
Speaker:Yeah, is it right-handed person?
Speaker:And they made him left-handed. And I plan on doing that with my son.
Speaker:We've got a two-year-old and we take him out to the courts and people look at us and they're like,
Speaker:"Oh, yeah, you should put that rag in his left hand. All the coaches say that."
Speaker:So is it just a thing people say and it's harder to do or maybe Rafa is one of the last really
Speaker:famous, you know, huge success stories of it?
Speaker:As a talent development coach and we're doing this for many, many years in the Junior,
Speaker:I always say that I'm playing two in and of both sides if you want to because it's the
Speaker:experience and the rotation. And then as they get going, you'll start to identify
Speaker:your chance for more dominant or for which one the child finds more prominent than enjoy.
Speaker:Because trying to force something that's not there is, I think that if you're
Speaker:inundations like myself, I could have done but I could be generally happy.
Speaker:But on the other hand, some people are very dominant on one side.
Speaker:You'll probably be developing fast stuff. You get that right,
Speaker:they're trying to get the other side to say, "But everyone's elected."
Speaker:Well, either way, we may never know. What do you have been as successful if he was a righty?
Speaker:I don't think so. Well, the statistician, Sheran and Wilk too, right? What's the majority of
Speaker:tens please, right him? Yeah, the majority of tens. So when we saw her, they'd feel like,
Speaker:"Good luck, he was like, "Woohoo!" Right, I was calling an inherent 10% advantage.
Speaker:And when you're going against Grand Slam, you know what? That's a good thing to have.
Speaker:The feel of the left side has always been more than what I've said. You know,
Speaker:again, to look at the center of one of the best feels ever knew the right.
Speaker:I agree. Would have we swapped further to lefty because if it's supposed to, I don't think so.
Speaker:Yeah, probably not. Good point. Well, either way, we definitely wish him all the best.
Speaker:We assume he's going to be involved in tennis in some ancillary way in promoting and helping
Speaker:his academy is going to do great things. But yeah, hopefully this is something that he can finally,
Speaker:I don't think they give it up, but he can finally just be done with it and say, "I can't push forward
Speaker:anymore. We don't want him to torture himself any further than he already has."
Speaker:Yeah, I finished with the three Kings that I call him is Junkovich Federer and Madal.
Speaker:I think they'll be always in tennis for a silver. And that is a very fortunate thing in head
Speaker:because they're going to lead the next future, the next generation to get involved because of
Speaker:how much they've learned over the last 23 years. I think they're going to be in stand like we just
Speaker:know, in San Press, it's just being a lot of plays just to feel. I don't think we're going to see that
Speaker:within some players. I love record. Good ambassadors for the sport. But we gave Rafa an extra
Speaker:couple of minutes because he's worth it on our 10 minutes of tennis. Justin, you know,
Speaker:this has been 10 minutes of tennis. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. We'll see you next week. Thank you, sir.
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