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10 Minutes of Tennis: Rafa Retires
Episode 80 β€’ 15th October 2024 β€’ Atlanta Tennis Podcast β€’ Shaun Boyce and Bobby Schindler
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Episode #80 Season 24: Shaun Boyce & Justin Yeo

On this episode of 10 Minutes of Tennis, Shaun and Justin talk about the retirement of Rafael Nadal and what it means for the tour.

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Today, this is 10 minutes of tennis with World renowned Tennis Coach Australian in Puerto Rico,

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Justin Yeo, and we are going to talk about what everybody is talking about,

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which is the retirement of Rafael Nadal.

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So, before I start reading off headlines and what the questions are and what everybody else thinks

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we should talk about, Justin, what's your first response to Rafa calling it quits?

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It's about time.

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[Laughter]

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Give it up, buddy.

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I just wish you all the best.

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We feature the guy with the battle horse, and he just went through everything.

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I remember 2010, meeting with Umka Tony and talking about his 2009 string open title.

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We had a great discussion because Tony was explaining that he came off with

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sending final against Fadafoe all night.

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It was a rain delay during the tournament, so he had to play Saturday in the semi-final against

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Fadafoe when five sets.

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He got up the next morning and played federally in the final.

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Tony talks about it that, you know, about five to 10 minutes,

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Rafael was like, "Can't do this."

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He's totally bleeding.

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His fingers were hurting.

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Fighting with sore.

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It's not about the previous.

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Tony just turned around and said, "Well,

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we said we wouldn't be out of the federation, but not on the hardquets in China."

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Sorry.

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Now, so do you.

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So we trained on for another 45 minutes and then the federation fought.

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Now it's 2009.

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So, we're now 2024 and multiple performance and physical therapist guys all said that

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you'd be lucky to make 2012 with the injuries available.

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So it's just absolutely being the markable.

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So you're like, keep going as far and be as successful as he is.

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And I have to give him two days of the most out of all the players,

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because there's no one that has evolved their game and their physicality.

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To keep playing, you know, federally probably could have done a little bit of difference for

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a chance a couple of things.

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Maybe come forward a bit earlier and see if he could last a little longer.

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Instead, he was like,

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I'm done playing my game.

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That's it.

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My dial switched and switched and switched and switched.

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So very impressed.

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So I think the boss won, but they get to that point we have to wish him the best so that they enjoy

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the rest of their life.

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Yeah.

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One of the headlines says, "Rafael Nadal did not retire" quote as he would have liked.

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What do you think is going on?

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You think he wishes he could go out on top?

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I mean, is that kind of the concept there?

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No, but I think he would have rather retired at French-Hoting.

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But he could have done that.

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I mean, he could have retired this year.

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That's what you're saying.

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It's about time, meaning he should have just said,

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"You know what, guys, you're right. I'm out."

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He could have done that at the end of this last French-Hoting.

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He could have, but he wanted to come back and play Spain.

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And he wanted to, and he wanted to finish on his note.

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You know, and if there's anything like I said, 2009-2012,

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2010, things like '18, you know, both also in Pizzy-Prieve.

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I don't know how this guy can keep going.

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The wheat changes, the muscle proficient.

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I mean, there were so many things in just kept.

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And then taking the ball off the baseline and coming to the net and changing his server,

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and making him survive a little longer. And that was a risk in the first place.

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Right? And then Moya just said, "We're going to keep going.

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This is what we've got to do."

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And he took 20-30% off his ball time.

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You know what I'm saying?

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So Moya wouldn't know because Moya was of the generation where the Claycourt players

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didn't last very long because they were just peed up at the end of five to seven years.

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I mean, to say, if you really want to play Roger Federer's got a very efficient game,

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less so than I think most people think.

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Like, it wasn't the third volley efficiency.

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But a very efficient game, he wins quickly, can shorten the point.

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You've got to figure out how to do that.

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And like you said, with the technique changes and the adjustments and his ability to volley,

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remember that Claycourt or back in the day that could volley?

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No, neither do I.

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And this guy coming in with perfect technique and being able to finish points at the net

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was a complete change from that culture.

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Yeah, well, I mean, you had to listen to Mr. McIner, right?

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I mean, John said that Graffin's got probably the best volley in the whole game.

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Yeah, and what do you mean there's two far back in the court?

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Yeah, but he's a Claycourt guy.

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Act like court.

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I don't know.

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I mean, I've seen Jocovic close to the baseline and when the French open,

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if you look at Barraica, same thing,

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we would weigh up on the baseline and we could do well at the French.

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So I wouldn't necessarily label all Claycourt players 19 to fact,

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but that was one of his signatures, Raffa, which is weighing you down.

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And I always always just be saying to junior development,

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it's not about necessarily beating a guy off the court.

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It's actually beating him in challenge and the fight that makes it harder.

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So out round he's somebody actually is harder on a person than being passed and winneth all day long.

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So the hardest thing is to lose to someone when it's your own racket and you're trying

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to just battle with them.

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And that guy just a little bit stronger, a little bit cleaner and just doesn't miss, you know.

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It's the hardest thing to take. You're like, oh my god, it was right there. Oh my god, I had this.

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There's always things and Raffa's got this signature.

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He just weighed down and we're going to miss him.

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He just got a voice about it.

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Both Kings that are going on and out have a voice about him.

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They were great examples for the generations coming.

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They were just amazing.

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So we're going to miss him, but at the same time we go to the point and go wish him back well and let the new

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wife come in.

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Yeah, let the younger guys come.

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One more thing on Raffa specifically, a right-handed person that was turned into a left-handed tennis

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player intentionally. Are we going to see more of that? Look at the success of what's the guy's name,

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the British guy that just made the semis of the US open.

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I don't know why I can't think of his name.

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But you're talking about guys that are, you got coaches that are saying to the four and five-year-old

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kids, yeah, you're right-handed. That's fine, but you're going to be a lefty because there is some

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inherent advantage. Do we think we're going to see more of that? Is that something that's a thing

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or is it just going to be as rare as it always was?

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Well, from the information on you, they didn't know you was lefty until later.

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They didn't know that. So he was like in the high up in the world in 12 and 14 when they realized

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he was running the money. And just said, well, he is where he is now. We got changed now.

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But parents, parent knows he's going to pick up a crayon with his right hand.

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No, that can't back in, you know.

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He plays golf right-handed. Somebody had to know.

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Well, interestingly, I can say that, right? He didn't really draw a playing golf.

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And if you're sorry to play soccer, you play both feet.

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Play both feet very well. There's the same obvious there, yeah.

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In any video footage of him, he's both feet were just ridiculous.

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In any footage of you watched him in soccer, he just dominated a field and just had people

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flabbergasted on the other side, left and right. So I don't know, it's...

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Again, we all know, too, that lefty is filled up all more and I'm empty, yes.

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So I can understand both sides of what he did. He must have just

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been comfortable more lefty, so they left that happened. But later on,

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started identifying things. So we could throw a ball very much stronger on the right than the left,

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which, you know, maybe he would have been a bigger server than what I was.

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But the guy, uh, would generally left me and hurt a lot of people.

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Yeah, yeah. And Jack Draper is the name that I was trying to think of who's...

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I'll give it a try. He's Draper, so you told me.

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Yeah, is it right-handed person?

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And they made him left-handed. And I plan on doing that with my son.

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We've got a two-year-old and we take him out to the courts and people look at us and they're like,

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"Oh, yeah, you should put that rag in his left hand. All the coaches say that."

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So is it just a thing people say and it's harder to do or maybe Rafa is one of the last really

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famous, you know, huge success stories of it?

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As a talent development coach and we're doing this for many, many years in the Junior,

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I always say that I'm playing two in and of both sides if you want to because it's the

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experience and the rotation. And then as they get going, you'll start to identify

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your chance for more dominant or for which one the child finds more prominent than enjoy.

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Because trying to force something that's not there is, I think that if you're

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inundations like myself, I could have done but I could be generally happy.

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But on the other hand, some people are very dominant on one side.

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You'll probably be developing fast stuff. You get that right,

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they're trying to get the other side to say, "But everyone's elected."

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Well, either way, we may never know. What do you have been as successful if he was a righty?

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I don't think so. Well, the statistician, Sheran and Wilk too, right? What's the majority of

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tens please, right him? Yeah, the majority of tens. So when we saw her, they'd feel like,

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"Good luck, he was like, "Woohoo!" Right, I was calling an inherent 10% advantage.

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And when you're going against Grand Slam, you know what? That's a good thing to have.

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The feel of the left side has always been more than what I've said. You know,

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again, to look at the center of one of the best feels ever knew the right.

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I agree. Would have we swapped further to lefty because if it's supposed to, I don't think so.

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Yeah, probably not. Good point. Well, either way, we definitely wish him all the best.

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We assume he's going to be involved in tennis in some ancillary way in promoting and helping

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his academy is going to do great things. But yeah, hopefully this is something that he can finally,

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I don't think they give it up, but he can finally just be done with it and say, "I can't push forward

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anymore. We don't want him to torture himself any further than he already has."

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Yeah, I finished with the three Kings that I call him is Junkovich Federer and Madal.

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I think they'll be always in tennis for a silver. And that is a very fortunate thing in head

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because they're going to lead the next future, the next generation to get involved because of

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how much they've learned over the last 23 years. I think they're going to be in stand like we just

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know, in San Press, it's just being a lot of plays just to feel. I don't think we're going to see that

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within some players. I love record. Good ambassadors for the sport. But we gave Rafa an extra

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couple of minutes because he's worth it on our 10 minutes of tennis. Justin, you know,

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this has been 10 minutes of tennis. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. We'll see you next week. Thank you, sir.

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