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Why Planning Rest Before Work Is Smart
Episode 42116th January 2023 • Everyday Disciple Podcast • Caesar Kalinowski
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Sabbath rest is not about just taking a break. It’s about putting an end to the restlessness of self, and self-provision, that keeps us living distracted, frantic, and fragmented lives of dissatisfaction.  This week on the Everyday Disciple Podcast, we talk about why planning your rest before work is smart and crucial to living the life God intended for you. And we’ll give a few ways to get started. In This Episode You’ll Learn:
  • God’s original intent for the Sabbath and how it always pointed to Jesus.
  • Why Sabbath rest is a lot more than just “not working”.
  • The importance of planning your rest before you plan your work.
  • Ways you can get started living out of rest as part of your lifestyle.
  From this episode: "God desires us to spend time with him and be in his presence even more than we do! He created us and knows that this time of reconnecting to his goodness, grace, and provision–fulfilled in Christ–is for our ultimate good. Regularly reconnecting your heart to his unconditional love and acceptance allows you to be the person you were created to be. You’ll never look back at your life and think, “I spent too much time in life in the presence of God…"
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Caesar Kalinowski:

Sabbath rest is not just about taking a break.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But I think properly understood.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It's about putting an end to the restlessness of self and self provision that keeps us living distracted, frantic, and fragmented lives of dissatisfaction.

Caesar Kalinowski:

The transformed life that Gospel offers is a perpetual state of Sabbath, a non-stop resting in Christ's completed work on the cross.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Jesus secured for us what we could never earn for ourselves.

Caesar Kalinowski:

The forgiveness of sins and the restoration of our relationship with the father.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We can do nothing to add to this anymore than we could cause plants to grow or control the weather or cause God to love us any more than he already does because of Jesus.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We can rest today, every day at a soul level.

Heath Hollensbe:

Welcome to the Everyday Disciple Podcast, where you'll learn how to live with greater intentionality and an integrated faith that naturally fits into every area of life.

Heath Hollensbe:

In other words, discipleship as a lifestyle.

Heath Hollensbe:

This is the stuff your parents, pastors and seminary professors probably forgot to tell you.

Heath Hollensbe:

And now here's your host, Caesar Kalinowski.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hey, Heath, always good to be with you.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We're only a couple of weeks into the new year.

Caesar Kalinowski:

How's things going?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Things are good.

Heath Hollensbe:

I, uh, I didn't.

Heath Hollensbe:

I didn't not finish any of my New Year's resolutions cause I didn't make any.

Heath Hollensbe:

So I'm, I'm loving the rain.

Heath Hollensbe:

We're starting to get some snow in the forecast.

Heath Hollensbe:

This is a good time to be alive.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hey, did you, uh, are you into the awards shows?

Caesar Kalinowski:

We're kind of in that season now.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You, are you into the whole like, uh, golden Globes were a week or so back.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Uh oh, yes.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Oscars are coming up.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Are you into

Heath Hollensbe:

that?

Heath Hollensbe:

I'll tell you, I do like some award shows.

Heath Hollensbe:

, I, I did watch the Golden Globes and so I hope our listeners aren't learning something about me that makes them hate me.

Heath Hollensbe:

But no, I love it.

Heath Hollensbe:

I thought it was a, I thought it was great, and I look forward to, I mean, I watched the Grammys and I watched the Golden Globes.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I wonder how accurate the Globes will be to the, uh, Oscars coming up, right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Ooh, yeah, that's a good question.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Let say it's about 50 50.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Is it?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, that's what I read recently.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Oh, I just, half the time they get it right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Alright, here we go.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

So, um, so we talked a couple weeks back, just a little bit about goal setting and New Year's resolutions and that sort of stuff.

Heath Hollensbe:

And I know for myself, and actually maybe even most people setting goals or even loosely planning out the work that they hope to do in this next year.

Heath Hollensbe:

Mm-hmm.

Heath Hollensbe:

takes a huge precedence over planning out how we will rest throughout the year because we're kind of driven in this due to be mentality.

Heath Hollensbe:

Right?

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

So rest is equally important, wouldn't you say?

Caesar Kalinowski:

It is.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I, I, I really think it is.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And, you know, whether someone is a detailed goal setter, you know, or they really go after it and they got systems for this.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And I've actually taken courses on how to set goals for the year and all this, you know, people have income goals and health goals and all this.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Um, very few of us seem to really grasp the importance of working from rest.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

and that would naturally start by embracing and planning out some rest when you think Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, in, in Sabbath time, if you will.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Um, before we start to plan out all of our goals and work for the year or the week or the month even.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And, and think about it today, we all live with cell phones and laptops and smart devices of some sort.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I got Google, like home things all over the house and we have it all, you know, and, and that allows us to check in and.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Even when we're not working, right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yep.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So we're, we're just never off work.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And so I think if there's ever a time to revisit and, and heed, you know, like God's eternal sort of creational order and plan of like, hey, you need to work, but Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But work from rest.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Um, it'd be now cuz like I just, there's never any time off and.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, December, Tina and I like last minute as you know, we took a vacation, went on a cruise.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It was just like last minute.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We were so fried.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Cause our last couple vacations that had been planned out before work Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Um, kinda got canceled and kind of messed up and for various reasons.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And we were like, well, I guess, you know, it's all right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We'll just, you know, we'll go soon.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, we never did.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And we were toasted and so it, it came, it became very real again.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So, um, we are once again trying to Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Do a better job at that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So, it's funny you say

Heath Hollensbe:

that cause I was thinking the other day driving to work.

Heath Hollensbe:

You know, I wake up first thing I do is check my phone even, you know, like before I drink water, do anything.

Heath Hollensbe:

It's like you check your phone, it's the last thing you do before you go to bed.

Heath Hollensbe:

Wow, we're exhausted.

Heath Hollensbe:

I'm on the freeway.

Heath Hollensbe:

15 minutes after I'm awake, people are cutting each other off.

Heath Hollensbe:

There's angry.

Heath Hollensbe:

You get to work, you're getting bombarded right away.

Heath Hollensbe:

And so I think there is some importance of this, this resting kind of idea of operating out of that versus having to rest because we're so exhausted and I know my own personal life.

Heath Hollensbe:

it's backwards yeah Most of the time my body like just shuts down.

Heath Hollensbe:

Cause I go, go, go, go, go.

Heath Hollensbe:

And I'm not living outta rest.

Heath Hollensbe:

I'm living out of this due to be mentality.

Heath Hollensbe:

And then it's almost like God says you can't sustain it your body says I'm gonna shut this thing down so that you have to

Caesar Kalinowski:

submit to it.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Well, yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And so then we medicate.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And there's all, there's all this stuff out there of like how to beat burnout.

Caesar Kalinowski:

All these, it's like we have flipped it backwards.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

You know?

Heath Hollensbe:

So I wonder if like one of the residual or insidious or, or I wonder if one of the residual and insidious effects of living under this tyranny.

Heath Hollensbe:

Due to be mentality,

Caesar Kalinowski:

what you do equals who you are and how to earn significance.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I wonder if

Heath Hollensbe:

that's kind of fueling this work, work, work,

Caesar Kalinowski:

work, work way of planning life.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I think it is, man.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I, I really do.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, thinking about our human predisposition to.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Earn our worth by doing to work hard for status and love and acceptance and you know, be valued and all that at work and all that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I wanna remind us that in the beginning of the story, in the beginning of the Bible, God created humans in his own image on the sixth day.

Caesar Kalinowski:

and it says to be like him.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And then it was the next day, the very first full 24 hours of life for Adam and Eve was a day off, a day of rest.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

This is what scripture says.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It says By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So on the seventh day he rested from all his work.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy because he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So, so he did that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

, right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

He did that as a model, but then also right in Exodus, like we see like chapter 20, I think.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

When God gives the fourth of the 10 Commandments, it says, remember the Sabbath by keeping it holy.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

A whole paragraph's provided for this command while the others are just mentioned briefly.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, such like thou shalt not steal.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It seems, I think, Keith, that God knew that we were gonna wanna work hard at earning do to be and providing for ourselves, and that we would need a rhythm of reminders to help us restore balance and trust in him.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, it's good like all the time.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So weekly is what God set up, right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And God created everything, including us.

Caesar Kalinowski:

He pronounced it awesome.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And then he took a break to enjoy it all, and that's his desire for us too, to live in a rhythm of resting in his finished work.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Doesn't that just sound like deep breath already?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

You know, it's like the way we want to live.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

And I'm thinking too, if I'm following this new thing on Twitter where it's, it's like these independent Baptist preachers that are, are so much law, law law, and they're always about drinking and wearing the right clothes and women doing their hair to a certain length still in 2020.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

And one of the things way to go is like when it comes to this command of rest and working out of that restored understanding of who we are.

Heath Hollensbe:

And then who God is because of that.

Heath Hollensbe:

Why isn't this command brought up all the time?

Heath Hollensbe:

It's, it seems like the command to rest is so easy to just blow off and maybe, I don't know what's causing it

Heath Hollensbe:

it

Caesar Kalinowski:

is, you know, I, I've, I've probably joked about this before.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, out of all the commandments, keep, the Sabbath is actually mentioned twice.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like in conjunction with the 10 Commandments and then it's the most often mentioned of all the laws keep, don't, don't forget to keep the Sabbath.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And I, and I think, like I said, God knows that we're gonna wanna blow that off.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And it's weird because we wouldn't blow off the others so cavalier.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like thou shalt not kill.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Maybe.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I gotta cut that down.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Woo.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Pray for me.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That guy really bothered me.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Pray for me.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That guy cut me off again in traffic, you know?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Maybe we just get so busy we forget, you know, like it's cultural, right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Everything's, you know, up and to the right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And so we lose track of God's ongoing.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Goodness.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And his provision.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And we begin thinking that we're our own source of talent and energy and skills and like everything.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And I and I, we see that all the way back, all the way back through the Old Testament, where's, God, don't think that you did this with your own hands.

Caesar Kalinowski:

This is from God.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But I think we're still those same humans.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And I think we, we, we forget and we think we are actually our own source.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That's good.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So Sabbath rest is not about just taking a break though.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I gotta say that red front.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It's not just, Stop and work, but I think properly understood it's about putting an end to the restlessness of self and self provision that keeps us living distracted and frantic and fragmented lives of dissatisfaction.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, you're right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But the transform life the Gospel offers.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Is this per this perpetual state of Sabbath, a nonstop resting in Christ's completed work just like the father's completed work in the garden?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

On the cross.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Jesus secured for us what we never could earn for ourselves.

Caesar Kalinowski:

The forgiveness of sins and the restoration of our relationship with the father.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And we can do nothing to add to this anymore than we could cause plants to grow or control the weather.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Or just as a great reminder, and this is a big part of Sabbath, cause God to love us anymore than he already does because of Jesus.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We can rest today, every day at a soul level.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So yeah, you're right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So in our communities we found it helpful to think of this rhythm, uh, of like working from rest.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Uh, and like together, the idea of it is recreate it's society that we.

Caesar Kalinowski:

rest that's the re part rest in Jesus completed work on our behalf.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And out of that rest then we create value in beauty and go to work and clean the house or cook a meal without feeling the need to earn God's or anyone else's approval because we already have his approval.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah,

Heath Hollensbe:

no, I remember a couple years ago listening to a message that was called The Theology of Rest, cuz I was, I was in a really busy season and I hated sleeping like I, I felt like six hours, five hours a night is fine.

Heath Hollensbe:

I can get more done.

Heath Hollensbe:

Be

Caesar Kalinowski:

one of these guys that just power naps like three times a day.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like Elon Musk.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, I thought about that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

No, . It's not happening.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Tina would never stay married.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, , I hate you.

Heath Hollensbe:

But there was this really convicting comment about, you know, like resting.

Heath Hollensbe:

Actually, when you'd look at the thing behind the thing, resting is a reminder that the world goes on without us.

Heath Hollensbe:

That as we sleep and as we rest, God is sovereign and he's taking care of things.

Heath Hollensbe:

The world's not falling apart cause we dozed off for a few hours.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, a friend of ours had the corny like fridge magnet years ago and it said, and he and like had a place to like marker your name in there.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So it was like, good morning Heath.

Caesar Kalinowski:

This is God, I'll be taking care of everything.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Today and I won't be needing your help . Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Just a reminder,

Heath Hollensbe:

like you don't have to do

Caesar Kalinowski:

it corny, but it's like, I think about it all

Heath Hollensbe:

the time, you know, like, so that was really convicting to me and my kind of my personal, like, wow, you do need to slow down because it is a reminder, Heath.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

That you don't have to be in control.

Heath Hollensbe:

I'm curious how this sort of plays itself out in your life and your marriage.

Heath Hollensbe:

. Caesar Kalinowski: Well, I, I gotta just come right out and admit it.

Heath Hollensbe:

I like, I suck at this rhythm of recreate, recreate right.

Heath Hollensbe:

This, you know, like continual Sabbath thing.

Heath Hollensbe:

Sure.

Heath Hollensbe:

It's so hard to live in a moment by moment reality of Sabbath rest, and it's hard.

Heath Hollensbe:

to set aside a regular time each week to be restored and refocused.

Heath Hollensbe:

Okay.

Heath Hollensbe:

So I just have to say that.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

Like I'm not, I am not the poster boy for that.

Heath Hollensbe:

Okay, sure.

Heath Hollensbe:

And kind of as a reminder, like, see, this isn't new though.

Heath Hollensbe:

The Israelites thought that the Sabbath was purely about just not working.

Heath Hollensbe:

Hmm.

Heath Hollensbe:

Like, you know, like, so you're thinking I'll just gonna have to carve out a day and tell the, you know, wife and kids.

Heath Hollensbe:

I'm like, I'll be out in the garage, you know, doing nothing, you know, but they missed the whole point of it . And I think we do too, and that's what freaks us out a lot.

Heath Hollensbe:

I think it's why we don't dig into Sabbath more.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

Is much like the Israelites.

Heath Hollensbe:

We missed the point.

Heath Hollensbe:

See, the reason God wanted us to stop doing stuff for a day in rhythm, weekly rhythm was that he wanted us to be renewed and transformed by focusing on his work.

Heath Hollensbe:

And now in the work of Christ and his creativity and his strength and power.

Heath Hollensbe:

Hmm.

Heath Hollensbe:

This is not just so we could take a short break or get a day off and kind of rest.

Heath Hollensbe:

I mean, that's part of it.

Heath Hollensbe:

Sure.

Heath Hollensbe:

Our bodies aren't endless.

Heath Hollensbe:

Right.

Heath Hollensbe:

But ultimately, so that our hearts would be refocused on the Gospel reality of who he is and what he's accomplished in Christ.

Heath Hollensbe:

Hmm.

Heath Hollensbe:

So don't let resting.

Heath Hollensbe:

Recreate this rhythm, become a new law to be observed.

Heath Hollensbe:

Like I have to work harder at resting , you know?

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

Um, it doesn't really make sense, does it?

Heath Hollensbe:

So ask God to cultivate this in your heart.

Heath Hollensbe:

I think that's a starting point by, by his spirit.

Heath Hollensbe:

Like you won't muster it up on your own cause you just, that's our life and that's how the world pushes on us.

Heath Hollensbe:

And the boss will always want more.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yep.

Heath Hollensbe:

But he can create this desire within us.

Heath Hollensbe:

That's his job.

Heath Hollensbe:

So the point of this rhythm and this point of this whole idea of working from rest is not, immobility.

Heath Hollensbe:

Or mindless amusement or entertainment, you know, like, well I didn't do anything, you know, I just laid on the couch.

Heath Hollensbe:

You know?

Heath Hollensbe:

Um, it is intentionally spending time regularly realigning our heart with God's heart and his son, and it's about physical rest.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

It really, really is.

Heath Hollensbe:

And, and having enough space to even hear the spirit.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

You know what's funny is, uh, I was thinking about a, a boss that I had in the last church I worked in and this particular boss was always worn out.

Heath Hollensbe:

You'd, you'd, you'd ask how, how

Caesar Kalinowski:

you no model and was

Heath Hollensbe:

of joy and vitality.

Heath Hollensbe:

, no.

Heath Hollensbe:

Moving on to the next thing.

Heath Hollensbe:

You're on medication cause your blood pressure is high.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yes.

Heath Hollensbe:

You were exhausting your staff.

Heath Hollensbe:

And I remember how exhausting it was with the people being around this person because they're not rested.

Heath Hollensbe:

All of us felt drained.

Heath Hollensbe:

Oh yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

You know, like, so there is kind of this like when you're the ethos, setting the mode, everyone around you is feeling like the barometer

Caesar Kalinowski:

of what you're at.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, the thing behind the thing there is it's not believing in grace.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You gotta prove yourself.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Prove yourself.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

And so if you're living that way, then you want everybody else to step up too.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Because if I'm running this , actually demand this hard.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

If I'm running this hard, everyone else should be, I mean, I'm the pastor, so like obviously God loves me, so you, you gotta work harder.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And it's not stated and it's not even conscious, but that's what's going on.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It's a, it's a lack of belief in grace

Caesar Kalinowski:

it's a killer.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Oh, it's especially in the church, you know?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Isn't it crazy?

Caesar Kalinowski:

God knew that like from the moment he created us like that, that's where we'd go.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

Oh, that is really wild.

Heath Hollensbe:

And I remember you and Tina, we've talked a bit and maybe even on the show, I know for sure offline that you guys were saying that one of the first things you do in looking at the new year is.

Heath Hollensbe:

Is creating the vacation times, the days off.

Heath Hollensbe:

Those are some of the first things you pencil in.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And that's why when it got messed up last year, it was like kind of stunning, you know?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

A couple of 'em, I mean, really, they weren't like our.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It, it wasn't because of us necessarily.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like we didn't just go, oh, let's blow it off.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It wasn't that stuff happened.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And you know, trips had to cancel anyway, so.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

But I know, so as you fill these things up and then you kind of add in the work related stuff around it.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

Uh, it seems like this is like you're, you're working from a place of rest as your priority versus let's try to pepper in a vacation.

Heath Hollensbe:

When we're maxed out and we know we're gonna need one.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Or yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

cause we're not tied to like, kids that are off school.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We gotta go then, you know, our own.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah,

Heath Hollensbe:

exactly.

Heath Hollensbe:

So maybe you could share a little bit about kind of your methodology and, and maybe some of the thing behind the thing

Caesar Kalinowski:

is to do this.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It's, it's not anything, it's not anything like crazy.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like, here's the system, you know?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But, but several years ago we started looking at how, how, how can we simplify our lives?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Are we living lives of simplicity and beauty and focus and all that?

Caesar Kalinowski:

And we felt like no, we were kind of running thing to thing.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We really were.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And so we thought, you know, we are not, creation order.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We are not working from rest.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We always rest from our work.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That's how the weekends felt and all that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And there again, you know, let's go back to the calendar.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, Hebrew calendar, it started with a day of rest.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yep.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And then the week we worked out of it.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, but we flip all that and I mean, I know, I guess we've got Sunday on our calendar first, but you know, is there a focus day of like, let's restore anyway and.

Caesar Kalinowski:

. So what we started trying to do is as we plan out the quarter or the year, generally we do this for the year.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We try to go, okay, listen, let's do our best guess.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Mm-hmm , and let's get all of our vacations on the calendar.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Best guess and they might slide a week or two.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Usually that's it.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like, we'll go like, oh, we were planning to go second week in November, but you know, I just got asked to speak.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Can we slide it to the third week?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Great.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So, and this might be March, so it's, you know what I mean, but Yep.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But we're prioritizing it.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And so we, we punch all those in and I've really, really been trying to work hard to take Fridays off.

Caesar Kalinowski:

. Okay.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And, and, and I sometimes I'll catch up on a little bit of work on the weekend or whatever, but Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I've really just been trying to, because that's a, that's a family day.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I get to go up to Seattle and see the heir to the throne.

Caesar Kalinowski:

See Caesar five and Caesar four.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Mm-hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

. And so, uh, all that's kind of punched in.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Now, do I ever miss a Friday?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yes.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Do we ever like accidentally the vacation blew?

Caesar Kalinowski:

But we try to punch all that into the calendar before.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Stuff.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So then when I get a call and say, Hey, we'd love you to, you know, have you fly out and do some training for us, or Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Take us through the story of God training or whatever.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'll be like, when do you wanna do it?

Caesar Kalinowski:

And, and usually people won't have a, a hard date.

Caesar Kalinowski:

They'll say, well, um, I don't know.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sometime in March.

Caesar Kalinowski:

March, yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We're kinda looking at this week.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Last, you know, last week of March or April 1st, or, sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, and then I'll look around and go like, oh, we got that going on.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Can't do that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Gonna go.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, that's good.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And then if it goes over a day off, then I'll try to, I'll try to jog that and go like, okay, I'm gonna take the day before off.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Or when I get home, I'm taking that, that day off and normally it's a work day.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Because I blew it off.

Caesar Kalinowski:

See, and, and even like coming back from vacation last month, I was like, I'm still taking my day off.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'm still taking it off, even though it was like two days later.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Because see, that's the whole, you know, that's the, that's how it starts to slide.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yep.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'm back.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Well, you were just on vacation, like you should be working and this is me talking to me.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And, and it's like, yeah, but that's how it starts.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like, no, take your day off.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Have a good weekend.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So like, you know, I actually got most, most of.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Two and a half weeks off, like, you know, around the holiday this year, which was what we planned.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I could show you on the calendar.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It was there from like schedule.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Way the heck back.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So that's what we do, um, to kind of get the ball rolling and, and I suggest that to take this seriously, like this idea of working from rest, if nothing else, you pull out your calendar with your spouse if you have one.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And, and you prioritize and schedule times to rest.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Annually, like what I was just talking about, but how about weekly and daily?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like why, why is it, and I have like my ideal day too.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And I have, I have, I have rest and reading times built in.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And that seems so unproductive.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That's how my day went today.

Caesar Kalinowski:

and I took those times.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I got so much done today.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And, and when I finally got to that sort of ideal day, which included like when I start and what I end, how often I'm gonna check, email, all that stuff, and when I'm actually going to eat and then have some time to kind of downtime align my heart, read if I want to, whatever.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I get so much more done.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Because all that distraction of like, let's go here, let's just check the news.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like, oh, that looks funny.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Let's go there.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'm like, you know what?

Caesar Kalinowski:

I actually have time set aside for that if I want to.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'll do it in a little bit, so I'll just work hard now, you know?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And so I, I just wanna challenge people, like if they're serious about it, start with that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Start with the annual, like punch in your days off and your vacations, and start to work around it.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Now I know some people it's like, well, I have to take 'em when work tells me.

Caesar Kalinowski:

that's different.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But a lot of people have flexibility.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And I

Heath Hollensbe:

think the thing that if I'm, if I'm hearing you correctly too, and knowing your heart is, um, is not to become legalistic about this.

Heath Hollensbe:

Right.

Heath Hollensbe:

And go, this is the way that we do it and we have to do it this way.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

So I, I would just kind of make the question is do you think that there's one perfect way or only one maybe right way to Sabbath or to truly rest because we're all different.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

It might look really different from one person to another or one family to another, right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, absolutely.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It does.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And, and it will, and this is I think where like we all.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Back to the law.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We would just rather be told, take that day off.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Don't do anything.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hey, what did you pick up?

Caesar Kalinowski:

That pillow that fell on the floor?

Caesar Kalinowski:

What are you housekeeper, your, you know, I remember one time we were on a, we were on a cruise and we had met this, um, a Jewish couple.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Okay.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And they were really trying to be very, very observant.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So when the Sabbath came, the Sabbat came for them.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

They, um, and we had, we had really had some amazing spiritual conversation with them.

Caesar Kalinowski:

They invited us, in fact, the whole table to do Shabbat.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Oh wow.

Caesar Kalinowski:

With them.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That's cool.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And they didn't have all the perfect foods, but they substituted the best they could.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And I think everybody left the table after that night.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We were like super into it, but they like, they would not have their room cleaned on Shabbat because Oh, wow.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like they couldn't, you're not supposed to ask your servants either.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

To work on the Sabbath and they wouldn't use their key card because that was using electricity, which someone had to produce on the boat, even though someone's steering the boat and all, you know what I mean?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Oh wow.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And so they were.

Caesar Kalinowski:

legalistic about it, huh?

Caesar Kalinowski:

So they had to leave their state room with all their valuables and stuff, and, you know, passports all in the room just un unlocked.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Wow.

Caesar Kalinowski:

good for them anyway.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But, but here's the thing.

Caesar Kalinowski:

See this, there again, this is not new to our hearts.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I, I'm, I'm reminded of Colossians two, uh, 16 and 17.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Check it out.

Caesar Kalinowski:

This is Paul talking.

Caesar Kalinowski:

He goes, therefore, don't let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink So, like you were talking about just a minute ago, like a super legalistic, you know, guy like, okay, you can't eat this.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You gotta dress this way.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You're like, Paul says, don't do that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Don't let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink or wear or whatever.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Or with regard to a religious festival, a new moon celebration, that's kinda like our Halloween.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

All right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Or a Sabbath day.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Huh?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Don't let anybody judge you about that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

These are a shadow of the things that were to come, but the reality, however, it's here, it's found in Christ.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Wow.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Isn't that beautiful?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Is he, so Paul was going through it too.

Caesar Kalinowski:

People were trying to like, but Yeah, but, but, but, you know.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But remember, and Jesus got hassled cuz his guys were like picking a grain of head off the thing while they were walking down the road and they ate like, oh, you're farming.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, like, he's like, you don't, you don't even understand

Caesar Kalinowski:

yeah,

Heath Hollensbe:

he's like, they're doing

Caesar Kalinowski:

this wrong.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So, you know, it seems like Paul was saying all the way back there that things like Sabbath were put in place like a shadow to point to a greater rest that would come in the person of Christ.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And then, and that is key by the way, when Sabbathing.

Caesar Kalinowski:

or taking a rest or like even like now I'm convicted of like for my daily breaks and reading and all.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Am I just reading goofy stuff and watching cat videos on YouTube, ? I don't, I don't do too much of that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But it happens . Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Or you know, or am I, am I saying, oh, I'm gonna read this work related blog?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Or am I saying, hey, as long as I've kind of carved out this rest for myself, in my head to not produce anything, can I take at least a little bit of time to focus on Christ.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And his completed work.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And that's part of what my morning, you know, routine's about, you know, I met before we started recording today.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We're talking about that a little bit.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That's all built in now.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'm telling you man.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It is, it's like, it's part of building the Sabbath into our lives, so That's good,

Heath Hollensbe:

man.

Heath Hollensbe:

What would you say to people that are, might be listening to the show right now and going like, well, Caesar Heath, you guys, you don't know my schedule.

Heath Hollensbe:

There's no way I could fit some time into rest.

Heath Hollensbe:

There's, maybe we could give a couple creative ideas, uh, that could get the Sabbath juices flowing for people that are listening.

Heath Hollensbe:

Right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Some practical ideas.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Well, like the first thing I said is if, if, if you're, if you, if you listen to this and go like, it's scriptural, God created us that way.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I, I'm in, but I don't know where to start.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Start by scheduling out, like I said, you know, your, your vacations at least and your days off.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like get those on the calendar first and then try to make 'em immovable.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Just try to, okay.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yep.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Here's another one though.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Set one day each week where you sleep in a little later than normal he's like, yeah, but I got four kids like me.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But you, you get to, yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And you could swap out those days as a couple or whatever.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'm not saying like, you sleep till two o'clock or something.

Caesar Kalinowski:

, but good luck sleeping a little later than normal, and you don't jump straight to your normal sort of weekly workday routine.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Some people like, well, I, I did, I slept, you know, I slept till seven, you know?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But then like jump straight into like, All the stuff.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It's just different stuff.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Um, don't jump right to your to-do list.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Don't check your email right away.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Or that project that you're hoping to knock out.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Take it slower.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like, just start with that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like, have a day I sleep in.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We take it a little slower.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Have a slow cup of coffee or tea together with your spouse if you have one.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, read a little, some days when Tina and I are doing this, we'll drink coffee on the deck together and just like nothing.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We barely even talk, you know?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Just look at the trees, you know how we have birds like crazy here.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yep.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And then, we'll, maybe sometimes we'll even catch up on a few tv.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like in our pajamas before we jump into the tasks of the day.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Usually we got some, like everybody else, we got tasks and or we're babysitting or I gotta deliver this or help someone move or clean the garage or Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But have one day, like if, if just, if like you go like I don't have much, have one day where you sleep in a little later, you start out a little slower, you'll allow yourself to just kind of focus and you know what I would say is just another little upgrade to that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Take five minutes of that slower morning start and just jot down what you're grateful for.

Caesar Kalinowski:

If you did that once a week, that alone, oh, change again.

Caesar Kalinowski:

God's gonna man, make it on the list.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Oh, absolutely.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And all that he's done.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That alone is gonna start to reset your clock a little bit.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah,

Heath Hollensbe:

that's good, man.

Heath Hollensbe:

All right.

Heath Hollensbe:

All

Caesar Kalinowski:

right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Number two.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Um, this is powerful and I don't do it all the time, but when I have, oh my goodness.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It's kind of like the ketchup, uh, schedule and plan out days of solitude.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Huh.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, times that you can be quieter and be alone with God to focus on Jesus to commune with him.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And so for a long time I used to have about,

Caesar Kalinowski:

Mm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I think it was once a quarter I would have a couple days of solitude scheduled out.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Wow.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And sometimes it'd be a day.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I always like to do two.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It seemed like just going through a day, getting to spend the night and wake up, like with no agenda other than I'm hanging out with God, you know?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

A Days of solitude.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And I, I would bring a book, usually in a journal mm-hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

or a couple books.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I, I, I was, you know, I wasn't watching TV and, you know, catching up on Netflix or any of that business.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And, uh, it was about once a quarter.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Oh my goodness.

Caesar Kalinowski:

God always spoke wow.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I always left feeling refreshed.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I always re He always said, I love you, son.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You're good to go.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'm ahead of you.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I've already looked at the next week.

Caesar Kalinowski:

In the next quarter I'm in it.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, it's cool.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'm pleased with everything you're gonna get done, you know?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Huh?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like you gotta believe that, right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

God's already in it and he goes like, you know, Heath, I know what you're gonna get done next month.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'm totally stoked.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You're good.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That's cool, right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

And so I, no, I really can't do that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You think I can't do it?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Try one.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, just try one.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And so what I would do is I would like, um, like we had some friends, uh, here in Gig Harbor before we lived out here.

Caesar Kalinowski:

They have a big boat, right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Mm-hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

and, um, We, uh, I could say, Hey, could I stay in the, it's like a cabin cruiser, right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Could I stay in the boat?

Caesar Kalinowski:

And they're like, sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And it's like a three bedroom.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I just, I would just live in one bedroom and hang out and I'd walk around the docks and look at birds and I'd go for long walks and they would, they usually offered like, you want us to bring us meals and all that?

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'm like, nah, it's okay.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'm just, I'd bring a little cooler, eat minimally.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know, I, my focus wasn't that right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Um, sometimes I would just.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I had some friends go like, you know, my dad's got like a cabin up north, you know, it's like a couple hours away.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Like, let me see if, you know.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I get that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It was generally free, I think.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I think one time maybe like I rented a hotel in the water somewhere for like a night and I used some points or something.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I just, sure.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It wasn't about the money.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It wasn't about like, whoa, suave man, like plush it was getting away something new.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It was just so I had.

Caesar Kalinowski:

, bad internet, , you know, and a book.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And I didn't have to like do all the normal stuff and you know, kids and all that, right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

And all that.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So try that out.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That that'd be, that would be a suggestion that I would have,

Heath Hollensbe:

you know, when I was a kid, I re not a kid.

Heath Hollensbe:

I remember being a teenager when I just started driving 16 and my buddy challenged me.

Heath Hollensbe:

He said, you know, we tithe 10%.

Heath Hollensbe:

Why don't you tithe 10% of your time?

Heath Hollensbe:

Like, and so I would say there's like three or four months of my life where I, I went through two and a half hours a day.

Heath Hollensbe:

I'd start my morning with just being in the word and in prayer and journaling and it was, I look back on that time and go, if I could do anything to free up my schedule to do that again, it was the best.

Heath Hollensbe:

But you know, the good old days, 20

Caesar Kalinowski:

years ago, and I know well with four kids, you're a different season.

Caesar Kalinowski:

But that, I'd say what happens though, Heath, what you just described is by most people do zero.

Caesar Kalinowski:

. Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So like, pick one of these things.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Just find something.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Just say, Hey, hey Kathleen, what's my day to sleep in a little bit?

Caesar Kalinowski:

And you know, and I just have a cup of coffee and flip through some books that I'm, you know, just digging.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And you know, and I'll be up and at 'em, but, you know, kick couple hours or something you like and, and what day do you want to do it, honey?

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And

Caesar Kalinowski:

you

Heath Hollensbe:

know what I mean?

Heath Hollensbe:

It works out.

Heath Hollensbe:

It reminds me like, I don't think there's nearly enough hanging out and resting and true communing with Jesus going on in my life at this point.

Heath Hollensbe:

I should, I should be working towards that

Caesar Kalinowski:

again.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That was my goal, you know, I was trying to heap some coals on.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Gospel shame.

Caesar Kalinowski:

All right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Here's another one.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Okay.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Okay.

Caesar Kalinowski:

This will be the last one I give you.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We'll wrap up.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Um, think about this.

Caesar Kalinowski:

If true Sabbath rest is a resting in who God is yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And who he's made us to be.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Then taking the time and setting a daily pace and schedule that allows us to be present with one another.

Caesar Kalinowski:

and truly present, present to the point that we seek to notice and acknowledge the unique beauty and creativity and image bearing of the other person.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That's a form of Sabbath rest that's wired right into our schedules.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That's like that moment by moment, like, God is good.

Caesar Kalinowski:

He's our source, he's our source of our identity and our image, and our authority and our privilege.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And I don't wanna pack my schedule so fast, like a 10 minute meeting.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Could it be a 15 minute meeting?

Caesar Kalinowski:

So I have, I'm gonna go into it thinking I am gonna be present with this person.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I know we have tasks to do, but I'm gonna be present enough to just notice the image of God in this person.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, right.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That's so good.

Caesar Kalinowski:

That's a refocusing cuz that's what Sabbaths about, who's God and who's he created us to be.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Well, don't just make it when you're hiding out somewhere, like make, well that's a simple way to weave it into like everything.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I think so.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Well, and how

Heath Hollensbe:

different would our lives and relationships be if we actually planned out our days and schedules to include the presence with one another to see God in each other and to learn to better support and bear with one another.

Heath Hollensbe:

And,

Caesar Kalinowski:

you know, I, I think, oh, it's like, imagine if God wired that into us and in fact commanded it.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

Um, oh man.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah.

Heath Hollensbe:

I was, I was encouraged even the other day when Josh, our, our mutual friend, sent us a text saying, Hey, let's get together and get in each other's lives.

Heath Hollensbe:

And I'm like, yes.

Heath Hollensbe:

That's, that's really what we

Caesar Kalinowski:

need.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We're getting ready for this.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

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Awesome.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So I'll just tell everybody whatever you choose and how formal you make it.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Great.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Okay.

Caesar Kalinowski:

To get into this rhythm, like anything that's important, you simply need to begin.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, so rest then work.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Okay.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Did you hear that?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Rest then work rest in your work rest while working and, and, and rest from work too.

Caesar Kalinowski:

? Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We get to, okay, let's get to the big

Heath Hollensbe:

three.

Heath Hollensbe:

This is the three takeaways that just tangible.

Heath Hollensbe:

We want you to walk away with if nothing

Caesar Kalinowski:

else.

Caesar Kalinowski:

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And you can get this as a printable pdf.

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If you want these, I have pre-written them down for you, you can get this as a printable PDF by going to everyday Disciple dot com slash big three b i g three

Heath Hollensbe:

caesar, what would you say the big three

Caesar Kalinowski:

are for this week?

Caesar Kalinowski:

Condensed.

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Don't miss this.

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Humans were created to work from rest, not the other way around.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Mm-hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

believe it.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You just we're doing it backwards.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It's no wonder that we're, you know, we're busier and more burned out as soci society than ever.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Cuz our work never ends.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And we carry it around with us in all these digital devices as but as the Gospel begins to free you from the lie of this due to be treadmill you'll be set free to rest as a priority, which leads to a more productive and truly fulfilling life.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah, it really does.

Caesar Kalinowski:

All right, number two.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Okay.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Uh, God desires us to spend time with him and be in his presence even more than we do or need it.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Hmm.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Okay.

Caesar Kalinowski:

He created us and he knows that this time of reconnecting to his goodness and grace and provision all fulfilled in Christ is for our ultimate good.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yeah.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So regularly reconnecting your heart to his unconditional love and acceptance allows you to be the person you are created to be.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I, I, I really want to like just.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Tell everybody, you're never gonna look back at your life and think, you know, I just spent too much time in my life in the presence of God, . I just hung out with God.

Caesar Kalinowski:

It's gonna happen too much.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I should've got, you know, I should have worked.

Caesar Kalinowski:

So third, um, make time in your daily schedule to be truly present with the people in your life.

Caesar Kalinowski:

We just talked about it, right?

Caesar Kalinowski:

This'll take great intentionality since we're so programmed to try to move quickly through meetings and, and our work and get to the next thing.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Yep.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Look for admire and honor the image of God that's in.

Caesar Kalinowski:

You know the people you work with and your family, your kids, your spouse, call that out in others.

Caesar Kalinowski:

As you notice it.

Caesar Kalinowski:

Try to encounter and experience each place and every creature as God's love and glory uniquely made

Heath Hollensbe:

visible.

Heath Hollensbe:

Hmm, that's good.

Heath Hollensbe:

Yeah, that is really good, man.

Caesar Kalinowski:

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Caesar Kalinowski:

Alright, well I gotta get going.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I hope you'll join us again next week cuz we're gonna keep diving into discipleship admission.

Caesar Kalinowski:

And gospel fluency, and hopefully helping make this all a whole lot easier for you in your everyday life.

Caesar Kalinowski:

I'll talk to you soon.

Heath Hollensbe:

Thanks for joining us today.

Heath Hollensbe:

For more information on this show and to get loads of free discipleship resources, visit everyday Disciple dot com and remember, you really can live with the spiritual freedom and relational peace that Jesus promised every day.