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Speaker:Gifters bakers,
Speaker:crafters, and makers pursuing your dream can be fun.
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Speaker:Your gift biz here is your host gift biz gal,
Speaker:Sue moon Heights.
Speaker:I cannot wait to get into the show today because Kelly
Speaker:has such valuable tips for building your team and growing your
Speaker:business and particularly watch for her productivity tip that she presents
Speaker:at the end of the show.
Speaker:It's fabulous.
Speaker:I also wanted to remind you that if you have any
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Speaker:I would love to hear from you.
Speaker:You can get in touch with me through the email sue@giftbizonwrapped.com.
Speaker:Any thoughts,
Speaker:any comments on the show,
Speaker:anyone you'd like to listen to just send me a message
Speaker:there today.
Speaker:I have the pleasure of introducing you to Kelly Roach of
Speaker:Kelly Roach.
Speaker:Coaching Kelly is the host of the top rated podcast,
Speaker:unstoppable success,
Speaker:radio and international best-selling author,
Speaker:and the CEO of Kelly Roach coaching as a former NFL
Speaker:cheerleader and fortune 500 executive Kelly brings a powerful combination of
Speaker:proven and profitable business growth strategies.
Speaker:This is coupled with the mindset wellness and productivity practices required
Speaker:to help entrepreneurs build a profitable business around a life.
Speaker:They absolutely love Kelly's passion and purpose is in helping entrepreneurs
Speaker:around the world achieve exponential profit sales and income growth while
Speaker:Kelly from one former NFL cheerleader to another welcome to the
Speaker:show. Thanks for having me.
Speaker:I'm excited to be here.
Speaker:So, So thrilled that you're here,
Speaker:we start out by having you introduce yourself in a little
Speaker:bit of a different way,
Speaker:and that is through describing a motivational candle that really is
Speaker:applicable to everything that you're all about.
Speaker:So if you were to tell us what your candle would
Speaker:look like,
Speaker:what color would it be and what would be the quote
Speaker:on your motivational candle?
Speaker:I love that question.
Speaker:I'm laughing because it's just so fun that you start the
Speaker:show this way.
Speaker:So I think if I were a motivational candle,
Speaker:I would be in a glass and Kaseman,
Speaker:and I would probably have a little bit of a curve,
Speaker:a little bit fancy,
Speaker:a little bit of elegance and beauty to it,
Speaker:but I would still be probably a decent size thick round
Speaker:candle. So it still has a common sense everyday used to
Speaker:it, but just a little bit of flare,
Speaker:a little curvature,
Speaker:something with a little bit of taste added to it.
Speaker:And I think by quote on the front of myself as
Speaker:a candle would just say,
Speaker:be the best in everything that you do every day is
Speaker:a new opportunity to take life and make the absolute most
Speaker:of it.
Speaker:Perfect. And I love the fact that you added the style
Speaker:to your candle.
Speaker:So it's not just an ordinary candle.
Speaker:And I note that you didn't tell me the color.
Speaker:You're just telling me the style,
Speaker:the shape,
Speaker:the look of it.
Speaker:So just to be a little different,
Speaker:right? I left a little bit to the imagination.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:Well, give us a little bit more information about your journey
Speaker:and where you're coming from as you progressed into Kelly Roach
Speaker:coaching. Yeah,
Speaker:absolutely. So my background,
Speaker:I was working for a fortune 500 firm.
Speaker:I was doing sales and marketing and recruiting,
Speaker:and very quickly within like less than a year,
Speaker:I was promoted into management.
Speaker:And from there I just kind of sprung my way upward.
Speaker:I was promoted seven times in eight years and I was
Speaker:ultimately leading a team of a hundred people in 17 different
Speaker:locations. So it was almost like running 17 different little small
Speaker:businesses each with their own profit and loss statement each with
Speaker:their own team,
Speaker:their own staff,
Speaker:their own budget,
Speaker:all of that.
Speaker:And that's really where I fell in love with leadership and
Speaker:developing people and teaching and coaching and training on sales and
Speaker:pricing and marketing.
Speaker:And I really kind of got my chops back in corporate
Speaker:learning to do that and being responsible for a $50 million
Speaker:budget definitely helped me grow up really fast.
Speaker:I guess you could say from a business standpoint,
Speaker:because I did all of that pretty much in my twenties,
Speaker:but as I got a little bit older,
Speaker:I met my husband.
Speaker:I knew we were going to want to get married.
Speaker:I was thinking about my future and what mattered most to
Speaker:me. I really began to realize that no matter how many
Speaker:times I got promoted in a corporate setting,
Speaker:I was never going to be able to bring together my
Speaker:core values,
Speaker:which were freedom and financial abundance and flexibility.
Speaker:And one of our big goals and dreams was always to
Speaker:travel and to really be able to have our kids be
Speaker:home with us and all of that.
Speaker:And so it just became very obvious over time that I
Speaker:wasn't going to find all of those things working for someone
Speaker:else I needed to kind of go out and create that
Speaker:for myself.
Speaker:So that's where the whole idea of Kelly Roach coaching came
Speaker:from just basically took everything that I had learned and reshaped
Speaker:it and refocused it in to design programs,
Speaker:to help entrepreneurs,
Speaker:to grow their businesses quickly by specifically wanting to focus on
Speaker:small business owners,
Speaker:because I knew that different from my time for the fortune
Speaker:500, that was helping one corporation make millions of dollars from
Speaker:the work that I was doing.
Speaker:Every time I helped a small business owner grow,
Speaker:it would have an impact on their family,
Speaker:their kids,
Speaker:their ability to have this great quality of life take vacations,
Speaker:make priority,
Speaker:what was most important to them.
Speaker:And, and so that was kind of the meaning behind the
Speaker:work that I was doing.
Speaker:And it's just been a great journey and I have an
Speaker:amazing team behind me now.
Speaker:And the company has just kind of grown and grown and
Speaker:grown since 2012 when I started it.
Speaker:And yeah,
Speaker:that's a little bit about how I got to what I'm
Speaker:doing here today.
Speaker:What you're saying I really love in terms of your ability
Speaker:to impact is so much closer,
Speaker:the final result and the rewards of what you're doing and
Speaker:teaching smaller businesses and entrepreneurs,
Speaker:I think is so much more valuable because you really are
Speaker:bringing it down to a very,
Speaker:very personal level,
Speaker:helping people be successful with their businesses.
Speaker:And of course,
Speaker:then achieving pretty much what you were able to achieve success,
Speaker:financial freedom,
Speaker:the ability to travel,
Speaker:create your own time,
Speaker:et cetera.
Speaker:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker:So, I mean,
Speaker:it's that it's being so close to it and it's knowing
Speaker:that there's meaning behind the work that you're doing.
Speaker:And for me,
Speaker:like when I get success stories from my clients,
Speaker:they're like I just paid off all of my dad or
Speaker:we're going to be able to take that vacation that we
Speaker:dreamed of,
Speaker:or I can finally hire staff.
Speaker:And one of the really cool things about a lot of
Speaker:the work that I'm doing now is over the last year,
Speaker:the business has really shifted into helping entrepreneurs with building their
Speaker:teams. And I've shifted a lot of my focus into teaching
Speaker:entrepreneurs, how to be good leaders and how to teach their
Speaker:teams, how to sell and market and serve for them.
Speaker:So the business owner can actually create that freedom because what
Speaker:I found was that like 99% of business owners had no
Speaker:freedom. And a lot of it was because either a,
Speaker:they didn't know how to manage the team that they had
Speaker:effectively or B.
Speaker:They didn't have a team at all.
Speaker:And what's really cool about that is on one hand,
Speaker:I'm helping business owners to create an achieve freedom for themselves.
Speaker:But on the other hand,
Speaker:it's actually driving our economy.
Speaker:Like it's creating new jobs for people,
Speaker:which is,
Speaker:I don't think as entrepreneurs that we really think about the
Speaker:impact that we have on a global scale or on a
Speaker:national scale.
Speaker:But when entrepreneurs become successful enough to hire people in their
Speaker:businesses, you're creating a job and a paycheck for a family.
Speaker:So then your impact goes beyond growing your own business to
Speaker:now impacting the greater world around you in ways that you
Speaker:don't even realize,
Speaker:which is really,
Speaker:really cool to me,
Speaker:it is at least.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean,
Speaker:it's a great perspective that you share that,
Speaker:but I'm going to back up a little bit,
Speaker:because I think a lot of entrepreneurs,
Speaker:especially in our space where we have a lot of makers
Speaker:and creators here,
Speaker:but I'd almost say it's general to all entrepreneurs.
Speaker:We come in as the super power women,
Speaker:right? And we say,
Speaker:we're going to be able to do everything.
Speaker:And I will sacrifice and put in all the time and
Speaker:do every single thing from accounting to product creation,
Speaker:to sales,
Speaker:to marketing,
Speaker:to technology,
Speaker:all of that and save the money.
Speaker:So you think to build the business.
Speaker:And I think that's a big hurdle that people have to
Speaker:overcome. Is there comes a point where for you to grow
Speaker:your business at all,
Speaker:you're going to have to build a team.
Speaker:It can't just be a one man show anymore.
Speaker:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker:And I think the thing that's so interesting about that mindset,
Speaker:well, there's a couple of different things.
Speaker:First of all.
Speaker:And I joke with my own team about this all the
Speaker:time, 99.9%
Speaker:of all the stuff that needs to get done in your
Speaker:business, you are like the worst person to be doing it.
Speaker:I agree either.
Speaker:You're just flat out,
Speaker:not good at it,
Speaker:or you spend too much time on it,
Speaker:or it's just not in your skillset.
Speaker:If you think about all the things that it takes to
Speaker:run a successful business there's and dozens of different mindsets,
Speaker:skillsets, perspectives,
Speaker:and mentalities required to run a successful company.
Speaker:So anytime you have one person that's trying to cross over
Speaker:all of these different skillsets,
Speaker:of course,
Speaker:there's massive inefficiencies and ineffectiveness,
Speaker:which is actually causing you to go backwards instead of forward.
Speaker:So people think like,
Speaker:Oh, I'm saving myself money by not spending the money to
Speaker:get a team member.
Speaker:When in fact you're costing yourself thousands and thousands of dollars
Speaker:in growth every single month,
Speaker:because you're just not the best person to be doing the
Speaker:job that you're doing for a multitude of reasons.
Speaker:How do you start thinking about building a team,
Speaker:obviously when you're just starting a business,
Speaker:you are a one man show at first what's the trigger.
Speaker:And at what point is it a financial thing?
Speaker:Is it a certain sales number or at what point would
Speaker:you trigger adding in and starting to build a team?
Speaker:Well, I think first and foremost,
Speaker:having a flexible mindset about the way that you build a
Speaker:team and the way that you construct this is really important.
Speaker:In the beginning,
Speaker:you are not going to need a full-time person doing any
Speaker:one of the roles in your business.
Speaker:So in most instances,
Speaker:the first step of getting help is going to bring in
Speaker:some type of contractor.
Speaker:And a lot of times the easiest,
Speaker:most obvious thing that can allow you to grow more quickly
Speaker:is to get all of the administrative and admin stuff off
Speaker:of your plate,
Speaker:which someone on an hourly basis can do for you in
Speaker:just a couple hours a week.
Speaker:And so that is like usually the first and best step.
Speaker:And what I always say to people is it's really not
Speaker:a financial decision of where you are so much as it's
Speaker:a commitment to yourself,
Speaker:that whatever hours you hire someone to come in and take
Speaker:over admin and operational things for you,
Speaker:that you are then going to dedicate those hours to selling
Speaker:and marketing your business.
Speaker:At which point it's not going to cost you anything to
Speaker:have that person,
Speaker:the place where we kind of get ourselves into trouble,
Speaker:Sue is if you hire that person to take on all
Speaker:the admin and operations stuff,
Speaker:and then you still keep doing non-revenue producing things well,
Speaker:yeah. Then you are going to be in the hole.
Speaker:Right? Exactly.
Speaker:And I'm so glad you brought that up because we talk
Speaker:about freedom and all that doesn't mean that you add someone
Speaker:in and then you have time to go and have lunch
Speaker:with your girlfriends.
Speaker:Exactly. It's a process.
Speaker:Yes. Yeah.
Speaker:And exactly what you're saying.
Speaker:I agree with you wholeheartedly is that you have to then
Speaker:be directing yourself into activities that you,
Speaker:as the owner of your business should be doing,
Speaker:which is business growth,
Speaker:revenue, generating activities.
Speaker:Exactly. And I think that,
Speaker:and especially,
Speaker:I know we're talking to a lot of craft makers and
Speaker:people that are really passionate about creating and providing a really
Speaker:special, unique product.
Speaker:And I think the thing that can be really,
Speaker:really tough when you are a creative and when you are
Speaker:someone that really puts a lot of love and investment into
Speaker:creating something really special to sell is that you really want
Speaker:to spend your time and attention on your craft.
Speaker:And one of the most important mindset shifts,
Speaker:if you want to create and you want to actually make
Speaker:really good money from your business is to recognize that your
Speaker:craft as a business owner moves from the thing that you
Speaker:do to coaching and developing people so that you can multiply
Speaker:the amount of product that you can move and the amount
Speaker:of people that you can serve.
Speaker:And that's a really tough bridge sometimes for people to cross.
Speaker:But what you have to ask yourself is,
Speaker:are you more invested in doing the craft?
Speaker:At which point you can get a job doing the craft,
Speaker:or you can work part time for someone else doing the
Speaker:crafts and having that be like your sole focus,
Speaker:or are you more interested in the end result of what
Speaker:being a business owner can create for you?
Speaker:Which is the freedom.
Speaker:It's a financial abundance,
Speaker:it's the flexibility,
Speaker:all of that.
Speaker:At which point you have to really embrace crossing that bridge
Speaker:over into leadership and people development,
Speaker:and really focusing your time and energy on learning the craft
Speaker:of sales and marketing so that your business can run like
Speaker:a well-oiled machine and continue to grow.
Speaker:And I think the mindset gift biz listeners too,
Speaker:could be at first,
Speaker:it's like,
Speaker:well, nobody can make my product as well as I can.
Speaker:That's the mindset we all have because it's your design,
Speaker:it's your talents,
Speaker:et cetera.
Speaker:But just as Kelly is talking about,
Speaker:perhaps a way to think of this that would be acceptable
Speaker:to you is you are the designer.
Speaker:So all of the products that are going out are your
Speaker:design, your creative input in terms of how it comes together
Speaker:and what the finished product looks like.
Speaker:All of that in terms of the production can be lovingly
Speaker:taught to other people and in doing so,
Speaker:you're able to get your fabulous product into more hands of
Speaker:more people and then growing your company.
Speaker:Exactly. And you're right.
Speaker:What I always say to people is there's a difference between
Speaker:a producer versus the thinker and the business owner.
Speaker:The CEO really needs to be the thinker,
Speaker:the visionary,
Speaker:the person that's overseeing,
Speaker:everything that's done.
Speaker:That's kind of at the top of the ship,
Speaker:looking out to make sure you don't hit any icebergs,
Speaker:right? So if you're down underneath in the workshop and you're
Speaker:creating the product,
Speaker:it's going to be really hard for you to be out
Speaker:front, making sure that this whole ship is pointed in the
Speaker:right direction and is going to make its way safely to
Speaker:the destination that you're going to try to arrive at.
Speaker:Does that make sense?
Speaker:Yes. And I love that description.
Speaker:It's perfect.
Speaker:I want to talk a little bit more about replacing the
Speaker:activities too.
Speaker:You're talking about being the driver.
Speaker:I think when you have that backup,
Speaker:you have people doing the admin things,
Speaker:different types of things that come to mind to me,
Speaker:Kelly, and I'm an ad.
Speaker:Have you expand on,
Speaker:this is the types of activities you should be talking about,
Speaker:not necessarily going into social media,
Speaker:but going out into networking or not posting on social media
Speaker:necessarily, but making contacts on social media in face to face
Speaker:real live,
Speaker:that scary networking type thing,
Speaker:connecting up with potential clients,
Speaker:negotiating. If you're a wholesaler,
Speaker:those are more revenue generating activities.
Speaker:That's what you would replace doing your financials,
Speaker:or at some point making your product,
Speaker:et cetera.
Speaker:Are there any other types of tasks,
Speaker:just so our audience can get a little bit more of
Speaker:a feel for the types of tasks they should be doing
Speaker:that fall in the appropriate column.
Speaker:Would you add anything else to that,
Speaker:Kelly? Yeah.
Speaker:Well, I mean,
Speaker:I think you make a really good point there Sue,
Speaker:so something interesting.
Speaker:I'll just share.
Speaker:Obviously we use social media.
Speaker:Social media is a huge driver.
Speaker:I'm a completely online business except for my corporate clients that
Speaker:I work with.
Speaker:And so for us,
Speaker:social is huge and there have been big,
Speaker:big changes to social in the last year and even more
Speaker:so in the last six months,
Speaker:one of the things that we just did in my company
Speaker:was we completely eliminated all social media automation for posting.
Speaker:So back in the day,
Speaker:it was like top of mind awareness,
Speaker:preload, all these posts to stay in front of your audience,
Speaker:that doesn't work anymore,
Speaker:right? People now want engagement.
Speaker:They are much more interested in seeing you feeling you and
Speaker:interacting with you on a one-on-one basis.
Speaker:So when you think of social or you think of making
Speaker:connections to grow your business,
Speaker:whether it's you pursuing wholesale accounts where you're going to physically
Speaker:go out and drop by with goodies,
Speaker:like I have my team go out to a target list
Speaker:of 20 key corporate customers that we're pursuing every single week.
Speaker:And they put together goodies and they have flyers and handwritten
Speaker:notes and they make these beautiful presentations and they go out
Speaker:every single week.
Speaker:And that's how we target our corporate clients.
Speaker:And then of course we have other team members that call
Speaker:them and email them and all of that on the online
Speaker:side, it's really about engagement.
Speaker:So it's,
Speaker:one-to-one interaction,
Speaker:whether it's messaging on Instagram or messaging on Facebook or messaging
Speaker:on LinkedIn,
Speaker:or whether it's you live streaming and actually demonstrating and showing
Speaker:one of your beautiful products that your team or that yourself
Speaker:just finished creating and talking about it and actually just selling
Speaker:it on air.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:look at QVC,
Speaker:right? What do they do?
Speaker:They demonstrate beautiful handcrafted products and they live stream and sell
Speaker:them. That is exactly.
Speaker:Now what you guys,
Speaker:as craft makers have the opportunity to do all day everyday
Speaker:for free from the comfort of your own home.
Speaker:So it's about leveraging technology in a meaningful way.
Speaker:It's about driving engagement and spending your time closest to the
Speaker:money, which is going to be interacting with people,
Speaker:whether that's face-to-face in person or utilizing the online space and
Speaker:the new technology that's now available for us,
Speaker:I would not have said it any better.
Speaker:Cali. Perfect.
Speaker:Let's also talk a little bit about pivoting,
Speaker:which is,
Speaker:I know one of the topics that you pay a lot
Speaker:of attention to tell us overall what pivoting means in a
Speaker:business, and then we'll get into some further conversation.
Speaker:I'm sure.
Speaker:In terms of when you do that at all.
Speaker:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:So pivoting is really the art of being able to assess
Speaker:in a non-emotional way what's working and what's not.
Speaker:And when it's time to make strategic changes in your business
Speaker:and pivoting is very different from hopping from tactic to tactic
Speaker:every other week,
Speaker:because you don't have the patience to follow through on something
Speaker:long enough to actually see a result.
Speaker:So I just want to put that out there right away,
Speaker:because these are two very opposite ends of the spectrum.
Speaker:And it's really important not to confuse them on one hand,
Speaker:in order to even use pivoting as a strategy in your
Speaker:business, you have to have the patience to implement a strategy
Speaker:or tactic for long enough,
Speaker:and with enough intensity and precision to know that it's working
Speaker:or not working so that you even can assess it to
Speaker:make strategic changes.
Speaker:But when I think about pivoting,
Speaker:what I think about is the fact that our business climate
Speaker:is changing very,
Speaker:very rapidly,
Speaker:more rapidly than ever.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:literally month to month,
Speaker:things are changing,
Speaker:especially in the online space now.
Speaker:And pivoting is really being like cognizant and aware of what
Speaker:you're doing to grow what you're doing to achieve success and
Speaker:knowing when it's time to make a strategic and well-thought-out change
Speaker:in your business.
Speaker:So it's like if something lived out its life cycle and
Speaker:it's time to upgrade or change the strategy that you're using
Speaker:to accomplish that goal,
Speaker:or if a technology changes.
Speaker:So I just gave an example of pivoting.
Speaker:So for us,
Speaker:a pivot that we made just about two months ago was
Speaker:we eliminated all social media automation,
Speaker:and we switched completely to live streaming and singular posts that
Speaker:are really well-crafted to drive engagement Right after we hear from
Speaker:our sponsor,
Speaker:Kelly breaks down exactly what she's doing with live streaming on
Speaker:social and the results that she's getting This podcast is made
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Speaker:So we're posting a lot less frequently,
Speaker:but we're getting higher engagement on the things that we're posting.
Speaker:And we're really focusing in my team is spending a lot
Speaker:of time doing one-to-one engagement in messaging campaigns on Facebook,
Speaker:LinkedIn, and Instagram.
Speaker:That's an example of pivoting because what worked a couple of
Speaker:years ago when there was free organic reach no longer works
Speaker:today because now the spectrum of content has gotten so saturated.
Speaker:And the automation of posting has really destroyed the newsfeed in
Speaker:terms of the integrity of what's being put out there.
Speaker:So you really have to take it to the next level.
Speaker:If you want to stand out and actually get results from
Speaker:what you're posting versus just going through the motions and doing
Speaker:it. That's like a perfect example of what I'm talking about
Speaker:here. When I say pivoting,
Speaker:Right? And for sure,
Speaker:the advancement of life and the prioritization that anything live gives
Speaker:you, whether it's Instagram stories,
Speaker:Facebook live,
Speaker:whatever. And we've talked a lot about that here.
Speaker:So our audience is pretty well acquainted with all of that,
Speaker:but the thing I want to reinforce an underline that you
Speaker:said, Kelly,
Speaker:that I think is really important.
Speaker:And somewhere where people kind of drop off is pivoting needs
Speaker:to be from a strategic perspective,
Speaker:you were doing something one way.
Speaker:It's either run its life cycle or it's the situation has
Speaker:changed. So as you're talking about with social media,
Speaker:it's time for a change to stay up with the times
Speaker:and be relevant,
Speaker:but then also the measurement aspect,
Speaker:like not just to change for change itself,
Speaker:but why are you changing?
Speaker:And then how are you going to measure if what you've
Speaker:just done is working and you should do all of that.
Speaker:I'm thinking Kelly,
Speaker:before you even make that change,
Speaker:think it all the way through.
Speaker:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:imagine just with this shift that we just made,
Speaker:like imagine how much time and thought we were talking about
Speaker:that for weeks and really assess that decision before making it,
Speaker:and you don't want to get caught in indecision,
Speaker:but you absolutely need to assess,
Speaker:and it needs to be strategic and not emotional.
Speaker:And you have to know what result you want by doing
Speaker:it. It's not worth even making the change unless you're going
Speaker:to invest in really,
Speaker:truly bringing it full circle and getting an improved bottom line,
Speaker:profitable result from what you're doing.
Speaker:Right. Right.
Speaker:And how long do you think you wait to see if
Speaker:the change has made any impact?
Speaker:Usually when you're making a strategic pivot like that,
Speaker:you should start to see results very quickly.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I would expect to see results within a matter of weeks.
Speaker:However, I will give the caveat that you also cannot manage
Speaker:things at a micro level like that.
Speaker:So for example,
Speaker:I think you mentioned that you guys have talked about live
Speaker:streaming here a lot.
Speaker:We teach live streaming and I'll have a lot of customers
Speaker:that will come and say,
Speaker:I've been doing live streaming every week for two months.
Speaker:And I haven't gotten a client for a minute.
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:how often are you live streaming?
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:you didn't even get to your 16 touches yet.
Speaker:It takes momentum.
Speaker:It takes continuity.
Speaker:It takes a lot of focus on promotion and distribution,
Speaker:all of that to take a new strategy and go from
Speaker:zero to profitability.
Speaker:So on one hand,
Speaker:when you're making a strategic change in an area that you've
Speaker:already had success making that change should start to produce results
Speaker:pretty quickly.
Speaker:Whereas if you're doing something new or for the first time
Speaker:and you yourself are just learning it,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it could be six months plus of you needing to do
Speaker:that consistently and repetitively before you're seeing real,
Speaker:tangible results.
Speaker:And sometimes you need to use your judgment and other times
Speaker:that's why it's good to work with a mentor or a
Speaker:coach, someone that can realistically give you feedback on what you're
Speaker:doing and say,
Speaker:this isn't working.
Speaker:You need to change this,
Speaker:this and this in order to get results,
Speaker:or what you're doing is effective.
Speaker:You just need to stick with it.
Speaker:You haven't been doing it long enough.
Speaker:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker:Right. Depends on what the topic is to what you're actually
Speaker:doing. Exactly.
Speaker:And give biz listeners.
Speaker:The idea comes to mind for me about this too,
Speaker:is your product and the relevance of your product as time
Speaker:changes. And the whole idea of pivoting is pertinent here too.
Speaker:If your product is something that's no longer viable,
Speaker:no longer something that an audience is looking at pivoting in
Speaker:of an adjustment,
Speaker:a switch,
Speaker:a different version,
Speaker:or an extension of your base product,
Speaker:maybe in order something that we can all relate to DVDs,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:blockbuster it's over,
Speaker:had they thought of pivoting and changing and adjusting their product.
Speaker:They may still be in business.
Speaker:Think of that also with your product really important for the
Speaker:longevity of your business.
Speaker:Is it still relevant?
Speaker:If you are a soap maker or essential oil,
Speaker:something like that,
Speaker:is there a scent that's really popular right now that you
Speaker:should be adding?
Speaker:That could be,
Speaker:I guess,
Speaker:a minor pivot,
Speaker:I would call that one Kelly,
Speaker:but it's not just what you're doing in your business,
Speaker:but also how pivoting could relate to your product.
Speaker:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:And I think it can be on a small scale or
Speaker:it can be on a very big scale.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:if you look at what has happened with retailers over the
Speaker:last couple of years,
Speaker:hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of stores closed thousands and thousands
Speaker:and thousands of people out of work,
Speaker:and you ask yourself,
Speaker:why, why did that happen?
Speaker:Well, it happened because they did not pivot to proactively going
Speaker:out and getting customers.
Speaker:They were still relying on customers coming to them period.
Speaker:End of story.
Speaker:And because they were not able to pivot effectively or waited
Speaker:too long to begin that process,
Speaker:they just got kind of swept away with the tide.
Speaker:So it's important to keep your hand on the trigger and
Speaker:be on the lookout.
Speaker:And that's why I gave the analogy of being on the
Speaker:top of the ship and making sure you're not going to
Speaker:run into an iceberg because if you're down under you can't
Speaker:even see you got your head down working.
Speaker:You're not even looking around you to see,
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:my whole industry is changing.
Speaker:My whole space is changing.
Speaker:If I don't change,
Speaker:I'm going to be out of business pretty soon.
Speaker:Right? It's such an important point because we can get so
Speaker:mired in the Facebook live topics like we were talking about,
Speaker:which is super important,
Speaker:but in terms of your whole industry,
Speaker:what is happening,
Speaker:what are the trends?
Speaker:What is going on?
Speaker:And if you're not looking from the upper level,
Speaker:you're going to miss it.
Speaker:Exactly. So obviously people can find out this information through podcasts,
Speaker:through industry specific Facebook groups,
Speaker:possibly, or periodicals,
Speaker:I would say like journals or online resources within their industry.
Speaker:Where else can you give us any clues or tips of
Speaker:where you would go just to make sure you're keeping in
Speaker:touch with all those top-line topics?
Speaker:Well, Look within your own business as well,
Speaker:right? So if you found that a year ago,
Speaker:you were selling something like hotcakes and now it's not selling
Speaker:anymore. You got to dig into that.
Speaker:I find that a lot of businesses don't do a lot
Speaker:of internal reporting,
Speaker:especially when they're small,
Speaker:they feel like they're too small to be focused on tracking
Speaker:and measuring and doing analysis.
Speaker:And a business is never too small to be doing tracking
Speaker:and analysis.
Speaker:You can know that some of these trends are happening within
Speaker:your own business,
Speaker:just by tracking and measuring and paying attention to changes that
Speaker:are happening.
Speaker:And so that's why,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:where every single customer coming from,
Speaker:right? No.
Speaker:How many repeat sales you're getting on average per customer per
Speaker:year? No.
Speaker:At your average spend per customer and for the lifetime spend
Speaker:of a customer is no.
Speaker:What your sources are,
Speaker:know where your traffic is coming from.
Speaker:Right? Like all of those things are going to give you
Speaker:huge indicators of what's working and what's not.
Speaker:But yeah,
Speaker:I agree.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:you can look around you.
Speaker:And one of the things that I would mention there,
Speaker:Sue that I think is really important is not just looking
Speaker:within your own industry.
Speaker:I think looking outside of your industry and paying attention to
Speaker:trends overall and seeing what you need to be doing with
Speaker:your product or service that is working really well in another
Speaker:industry that could also be working for you because sometimes if
Speaker:you only follow the big players in your own space,
Speaker:they're slower at picking it up than you are.
Speaker:And you could go right over the cliff trying to model
Speaker:what you see them doing.
Speaker:You have to remember a lot of times,
Speaker:bigger companies move slower and are slower to adapt change because
Speaker:they're bloated and they're like kind of dinosaurs.
Speaker:That's why so many big companies are hiring entrepreneurs and entrepreneurial
Speaker:companies to help them work on their adaptability and speed.
Speaker:So you don't want to just look within your own industry.
Speaker:You really want to look at the bigger world around you
Speaker:and always be asking yourself,
Speaker:what can I learn from this?
Speaker:How does this relate to me?
Speaker:Yeah. And I also think that by looking at outside of
Speaker:your industry,
Speaker:you're going to see other things that maybe no one else
Speaker:in your industry is doing to impact sales yet that you
Speaker:could be the first one,
Speaker:you're bringing something new and special to your own industry.
Speaker:Exactly. Okay.
Speaker:So you rattled off a minute ago and give his listeners,
Speaker:you can go back and listen to this again,
Speaker:in terms of the different types of things that you can
Speaker:be looking at and reporting on,
Speaker:and I'd say monthly,
Speaker:right? Kelly,
Speaker:you should be looking at these numbers,
Speaker:monthly, absolutely overall sales customer acquisition.
Speaker:I won't repeat all the lists that you gave,
Speaker:but really important.
Speaker:But I think that could be overwhelming for a lot of
Speaker:people here.
Speaker:What would be your top three things?
Speaker:If someone was just starting out the very top three things
Speaker:that you think that someone should track every month.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:So I think where your clients are coming from.
Speaker:So every client that comes into your business should be tagged
Speaker:with the source of where they came from.
Speaker:Absolutely critical because as your business grows,
Speaker:you want to know where to invest your time and money,
Speaker:as far as where you're going to be able to get
Speaker:your growth from,
Speaker:and you want to align where you invest for growth with
Speaker:the thing that's going to produce the fastest,
Speaker:most lucrative return.
Speaker:So where each customer is coming from,
Speaker:number one,
Speaker:number two,
Speaker:what you're spending money on and what return you're getting from
Speaker:that. So that when you're investing in something and you're not
Speaker:getting a return,
Speaker:you can redirect that money into something else that will produce
Speaker:a return.
Speaker:And then number three,
Speaker:I would just pay attention to the trends that are happening
Speaker:overall, especially with social media and with what people are doing
Speaker:to sell online,
Speaker:which the vast majority of buying is happening online now,
Speaker:and really looking at what are you versus where kind of
Speaker:the group consciousnesses,
Speaker:where the public consciousness is and what do you need to
Speaker:do to get your business in a place to be successful,
Speaker:leveraging some of the easiest,
Speaker:most obvious places that people are spending their time in their
Speaker:life. Perfect.
Speaker:Okay. Just to summarize for everybody what Kelly is suggesting in
Speaker:terms of tracking,
Speaker:if you've never done it before,
Speaker:start with this number one,
Speaker:where your customers are coming from,
Speaker:number two,
Speaker:the ROI of your investment.
Speaker:And I'm going to add on something here and that is,
Speaker:you may make an investment,
Speaker:let's say in being a member of your local chamber,
Speaker:you have to be working at if you're in part of
Speaker:your local chamber and you're not getting the return for that
Speaker:before you drop it,
Speaker:have you been going to networking meetings?
Speaker:Have you been having coffee with members who have some linkage
Speaker:where you could collaborate or you've got resources?
Speaker:Like if you really gotta work and you can't just make
Speaker:the investment and then drop it,
Speaker:if you haven't really given it its full chance.
Speaker:So one little caveat there.
Speaker:And then the third point that Kelly's mentioning is overall trends.
Speaker:And I would suggest to you your overall sales to even
Speaker:just your top line number,
Speaker:are you growing your sales?
Speaker:Now? Of course there's extra things.
Speaker:They are there's costs that go along with it,
Speaker:all that.
Speaker:But I want to keep it simple to start just tracking
Speaker:those three things.
Speaker:If you've never been tracking numbers before,
Speaker:we'll give you really good insight and direction.
Speaker:When you start looking from a strategic level,
Speaker:what you should be adjusting or not any additions to that.
Speaker:Kelly, I think we're good.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I think just overall like money and money out,
Speaker:right? And this is a big thing that I see with
Speaker:a lot of business owners.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I work with people from startup through 50 to a hundred
Speaker:million dollar companies.
Speaker:And a lot of business owners get really stuck once they
Speaker:get into multi six figures because they don't have the systems
Speaker:and the structure and the right bookkeeping practices in place.
Speaker:And again,
Speaker:it's because of that mindset that when you're starting really small,
Speaker:you're not big enough to be doing that yet.
Speaker:So the biggest piece of advice that I have overall is
Speaker:treat your business like a business from day one,
Speaker:focus on the systems,
Speaker:start building a team.
Speaker:Even if that team is your mom working for you an
Speaker:hour a week,
Speaker:I don't care what that team looks like,
Speaker:but start building a team,
Speaker:right? Treat the business like a business,
Speaker:start building a team and get the right systems and tracking
Speaker:and reporting in place.
Speaker:I don't care if you have five customers today,
Speaker:you will thank me later.
Speaker:That is the biggest thing that is going to set you
Speaker:up for success in the longterm of building a sustainable profitable
Speaker:business. I agree.
Speaker:And Kelly,
Speaker:where were you when I started my businesses because I was
Speaker:a late comer in that and it's harder later.
Speaker:It's so much harder.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean,
Speaker:when you think,
Speaker:okay, I just have a few sales right now or any
Speaker:of that.
Speaker:If you don't have an accounting system yet set up,
Speaker:it's going to be,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I've walked into some of my clients who,
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:they have retail shops and they're pencil and paper manually tracking
Speaker:all of their sales to this day.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I thought I would fall over because all of the work
Speaker:to then go back and put it into a system is
Speaker:crazy and I've done the same thing.
Speaker:I was that hard worker by golly.
Speaker:I would work myself to the bone cause I didn't want
Speaker:to extend any dollars out.
Speaker:I wanted to keep everything for growth and I don't know,
Speaker:it might've been okay to a certain point,
Speaker:but way harder to implement and start building a team later.
Speaker:I want to talk a little bit about something else that
Speaker:you were just mentioning and that is getting stock.
Speaker:And I want to relay this over to problem-solving.
Speaker:We get stuck with some type of a problem and that's
Speaker:an excuse not to progress,
Speaker:not to proceed forward.
Speaker:What do you do about problem solving and how do you
Speaker:make sure that that doesn't be an obstacle that just totally
Speaker:stops your progress?
Speaker:Yeah. Okay.
Speaker:Great. Great question.
Speaker:Well, the first and most important thing is to understand that
Speaker:problem solving is one of the most important skillsets of a
Speaker:business owner.
Speaker:And it is a muscle that you build every day from
Speaker:the day that you start your business until the day that
Speaker:you sell,
Speaker:hopefully. And if you put your systems in place and set
Speaker:things up the right way from the beginning,
Speaker:you'll be in a good place to be able to sell.
Speaker:But problem solving is something that a lot of times,
Speaker:when people are suffering from a problem in their business,
Speaker:they see it as just a hard stop,
Speaker:right? It's like I can't get over this hump.
Speaker:I can't get around this.
Speaker:I've been struggling with this for so long.
Speaker:But a lot of times what I find when I'm working
Speaker:with business owners is that it's very limited thinking that keeps
Speaker:us stuck.
Speaker:It's a lack of innovation.
Speaker:It's a lack of an entrepreneurial spirit of being willing to
Speaker:try new things and fail.
Speaker:I always tell the story back in the day 2013,
Speaker:when I started with Facebook advertising,
Speaker:it was brand new and almost no one was doing it.
Speaker:It was right when pages came out and I went to
Speaker:go on air for a speaking gig.
Speaker:And one of the other business owners there was there and
Speaker:was like,
Speaker:Oh yeah,
Speaker:you were just kind of talking about what we were doing
Speaker:to grow our business.
Speaker:And she's like,
Speaker:yeah, I just started doing Facebook advertising.
Speaker:And I was like,
Speaker:what Facebook advertising,
Speaker:what are you talking about?
Speaker:And she told me about it.
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:that sounds really interesting.
Speaker:I'm going to try.
Speaker:And I had no idea if I was just going to
Speaker:throw thousands of dollars in the street or if this was
Speaker:going to be the best thing I ever did.
Speaker:But I was like,
Speaker:you know what?
Speaker:This gives me an opportunity to drive new eyeballs to my
Speaker:business every single day.
Speaker:And it was really the catalyst for going from zero to
Speaker:multi six figures in less than a year because it was
Speaker:giving turbo fuel to my business of putting it on the
Speaker:map and putting it in front of people and getting clients.
Speaker:But if I hadn't been willing to risk trying a new,
Speaker:innovative thing,
Speaker:that I had no idea how the result was going to
Speaker:go, I would have completely missed that opportunity.
Speaker:So I just think when we talk about problem solving,
Speaker:it's so important that you realize that it's typically our own
Speaker:mindset that has kept us stuck and solving is a skill.
Speaker:It is something that you actually want to set an intention
Speaker:to work on because the more that you work on your
Speaker:ability to solve problems and embrace,
Speaker:when you're stuck on something,
Speaker:realizing that it's you that stuck,
Speaker:it's not the thing that's not working.
Speaker:It's you kind of opening up your mindset,
Speaker:looking at a different approach,
Speaker:trying something new,
Speaker:being inventive,
Speaker:being innovative.
Speaker:You'll begin to realize that any problem that you're facing can
Speaker:be solved.
Speaker:It's just the degree to which you're willing to get out
Speaker:of your own way and come at it from a different
Speaker:direction and have the perseverance and the persistence to keep working
Speaker:at it until you get the result that you want.
Speaker:So I know that it's kind of a long answer,
Speaker:but does that make sense?
Speaker:It makes complete sense.
Speaker:And I think what you're talking about,
Speaker:something that we talk about a lot is resourcefulness is the
Speaker:answers are out there.
Speaker:You just have to find them.
Speaker:And when you do try something,
Speaker:think of it as an experiment,
Speaker:not, Oh,
Speaker:I tried something and it didn't work.
Speaker:I'm a failure.
Speaker:Let's say your Facebook ads would not have worked exactly.
Speaker:Well. I'm quite sure you would have either tweaked them or
Speaker:you would have tried something else or it's just one step
Speaker:along the way.
Speaker:And also I'll be interested in your opinion.
Speaker:I think you'll agree with me here,
Speaker:Kelly is what works for one business doesn't necessarily work for
Speaker:your business.
Speaker:So again,
Speaker:back to,
Speaker:it's not a failure,
Speaker:it's an experiment.
Speaker:You can take other people's experiences and advice and suggestions,
Speaker:but you still have to apply it to your audience,
Speaker:your product,
Speaker:your market,
Speaker:because your market,
Speaker:even if you sell the exact same product might be different
Speaker:than a buddy of yours.
Speaker:Who's three States over.
Speaker:It might be totally different customer,
Speaker:even though you have the same product.
Speaker:So all you do is you test it,
Speaker:you evaluate it again.
Speaker:We were talking earlier about being strategic and then measuring.
Speaker:And then if it's working great,
Speaker:if not Mark it off as an experiment and try something
Speaker:else. That's exactly right.
Speaker:And in order to grow quickly and be a leader in
Speaker:your space,
Speaker:you have to always be in the process of testing and
Speaker:trying new things.
Speaker:Knowing that eight out of 10 of them may be flops
Speaker:and you'll just fail fast and end them.
Speaker:So you don't waste,
Speaker:but two out of 10 are going to be brilliant and
Speaker:they're going to be the thing that takes your business to
Speaker:the next level.
Speaker:And you have to develop that mindset as an entrepreneur in
Speaker:order to become a leader.
Speaker:And in order to become the type of CEO,
Speaker:that's going to be able to create the profitable growth that
Speaker:allows you to achieve the things that no doubt you had
Speaker:in your mind when you started your business.
Speaker:Yeah. And it's fun and exciting too,
Speaker:doing the same old thing over and over again becomes a
Speaker:boring. Exactly.
Speaker:But again,
Speaker:To your point,
Speaker:it's all about mindset for sure.
Speaker:A hundred percent.
Speaker:Okay. So you have a feel for who our listeners are
Speaker:here and I'm curious,
Speaker:your business is totally different in the coaching realm,
Speaker:but is there some tool that you've just found recently or
Speaker:you've been using for a while that you think our listeners
Speaker:might not know about that could be advantageous in terms of
Speaker:productivity or market analysis,
Speaker:something like Nothing that is technology driven,
Speaker:but I'll just share.
Speaker:One thing that I have my customers do that I think
Speaker:has changed a lot of people's lives and that is get
Speaker:an index card and write down on the index card,
Speaker:the top 10 things that need to happen in your business
Speaker:every single week in order to grow.
Speaker:And then on the flip side of that index card,
Speaker:break those things down into what you can do when you
Speaker:have 15 minutes,
Speaker:30 minutes,
Speaker:five minutes,
Speaker:two minutes,
Speaker:and take those things,
Speaker:divide them out,
Speaker:get on the other side of that index card and carry
Speaker:that index card around with you.
Speaker:Because I think one of the biggest things too,
Speaker:that keeps business owners stuck is the fact that we all
Speaker:have a lot going on,
Speaker:right? Like we have families,
Speaker:we have kids,
Speaker:we have responsibilities.
Speaker:We have sick parents.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:the list goes on.
Speaker:And I think a lot of times from a marketing and
Speaker:sales Rose standpoint,
Speaker:what stands in people's way is they see this big elephant
Speaker:in front of them of like what they feel like they
Speaker:need to do to take the business to the next level.
Speaker:And because they feel like they can't get their hands around
Speaker:it or can't get long enough,
Speaker:segmented, blocked off time to do it.
Speaker:They just don't.
Speaker:And my biggest piece of advice to all the listeners is
Speaker:get clear on what the most productive 10 actions that you
Speaker:can and should be doing in your business every week are
Speaker:get them on that index card,
Speaker:carry it around with you everywhere you go.
Speaker:And look for two minutes,
Speaker:five minutes,
Speaker:15 minutes,
Speaker:30 minutes that you can get in some of those activities
Speaker:each week.
Speaker:Don't wait until the perfect time.
Speaker:Don't wait until you have a whole day blocked off because
Speaker:it will never ever happen.
Speaker:Work with what you got fitted into the pockets that you
Speaker:have, and that's going to be your best and fastest path
Speaker:Cash. Wow.
Speaker:That is gold Kelly.
Speaker:I totally agree.
Speaker:And talking about breaking it down into two minutes,
Speaker:15 minutes,
Speaker:if you have a big overall task,
Speaker:you can break it into all of these little sub units.
Speaker:And that's I think what you're suggesting you put on this
Speaker:index card too.
Speaker:Exactly. Sending a follow-up email right this morning.
Speaker:So we had a sales call.
Speaker:We have a sales call with my team every morning,
Speaker:but we were on our sales call this morning.
Speaker:And there was a really high dollar customer that one of
Speaker:my team members was looking to close.
Speaker:And we just spent two minutes on the call talking about
Speaker:a strategy for her follow-up this morning.
Speaker:And we just got an email back from the person saying,
Speaker:great, I'm ready to move forward.
Speaker:Thanks. That was one email.
Speaker:If you break it down every day into strategic actions,
Speaker:that actually matter that are going to be impactful for your
Speaker:bottom line.
Speaker:You can take two minutes and send one email.
Speaker:You don't need to sit and wait until you have an
Speaker:hour to send 50 emails fit in the one email here,
Speaker:fit in the one email there,
Speaker:just get it done with the time that you have use
Speaker:your phone,
Speaker:right, and fit it into your life,
Speaker:that it into your busy life instead of waiting for the
Speaker:perfect time.
Speaker:And I think that will be for most people,
Speaker:one of the biggest game changers for creating growth.
Speaker:Now you work with a lot of people who are already
Speaker:established businesses and you're helping them build the teams problem,
Speaker:solve pivot so that they can grow.
Speaker:Would you have any words of advice for someone who's listening,
Speaker:who is thinking about starting their business or they're at the
Speaker:starting line,
Speaker:but they're waiting for that gun to go off so that
Speaker:they can start.
Speaker:What would you say to them?
Speaker:Well, the gun is not going to go off.
Speaker:That would be what I would say.
Speaker:Them, you are the gun.
Speaker:So the biggest thing I would say is just pull the
Speaker:trigger and start doing whatever it is you want to do.
Speaker:So if you want to start a craft business,
Speaker:or you have this special product that you want to start
Speaker:selling, or whatever,
Speaker:start creating a product and start getting on live streaming and
Speaker:using social to sell it.
Speaker:You don't need a website.
Speaker:You don't need to spend a year talking or planning about
Speaker:what you're doing.
Speaker:You'll learn more in the trenches in a month than you
Speaker:could learn in five years of you trying to plan and
Speaker:prepare and have everything perfect in a vacuum because that's never
Speaker:how anyone learns to build a successful business.
Speaker:So my biggest piece of advice,
Speaker:which this has changed in the last couple of years,
Speaker:cause this wasn't even available to us,
Speaker:but I would become a maniac with live streaming.
Speaker:If I was starting a new business today and I didn't
Speaker:have any responsibilities and I didn't have anything in front of
Speaker:me, I would just start off by live streaming every day.
Speaker:And that would be how I would build the business.
Speaker:It's simple,
Speaker:it's easy,
Speaker:it's free and it's effective.
Speaker:Perfect. Love it.
Speaker:Simple, easy,
Speaker:free, effective done.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:As we start to wind down and close up here,
Speaker:Kelly, I'd like to invite you to dare to dream.
Speaker:I'd like to present you with a virtual gift.
Speaker:It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.
Speaker:So this is your goal or your dream of almost unreachable
Speaker:Heights that you would wish to obtain.
Speaker:Please accept this gift and open it in our presence.
Speaker:What is inside your box?
Speaker:Ooh, wow.
Speaker:I just got chest.
Speaker:I think what's inside.
Speaker:My box is my ability to work with innovative people all
Speaker:around the world to set up a completely reconstructed university system
Speaker:that is for entrepreneurship,
Speaker:where all of your homework assignments,
Speaker:all of your tests,
Speaker:all of everything that you do is actually work that you
Speaker:do in your business.
Speaker:And the only way that you can pass the class is
Speaker:by implementing the thing in your business.
Speaker:So that by the time you get done,
Speaker:your years of university,
Speaker:you are running a multi six-figure business and taking home a
Speaker:substantial salary from that business.
Speaker:Oh wow.
Speaker:And are you going to create this Collie?
Speaker:Yes. Yes.
Speaker:Yay. There you go.
Speaker:Love it.
Speaker:Perfect. You've given us such good information and good advice.
Speaker:If someone wants to know more about you and particularly your
Speaker:podcast as well,
Speaker:give a little promo of where people can find you,
Speaker:your show,
Speaker:what it's about and anything else you'd like to add?
Speaker:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker:So unstoppable success radio,
Speaker:I do three shows a week and the whole show is
Speaker:dedicated to helping entrepreneurs go further,
Speaker:faster and accomplishing their financial and growth goals in their business.
Speaker:So if you want a short,
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Speaker:away, unstoppable success.
Speaker:Radio is a great resource for you in terms of connecting
Speaker:with me,
Speaker:I'm on Facebook,
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Speaker:Kelly, Roach international.
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Speaker:I interact with my fans and my followers and my email
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Speaker:You also know there'll be a show notes page with all
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Speaker:Kelly, thank you so much.
Speaker:I really appreciate all of your insight.
Speaker:Great, great information for our audience today.
Speaker:So I really appreciate your taking the time with me.
Speaker:Yeah, Absolutely.
Speaker:You're awesome.
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