Hi there.
Speaker:You're listening to gift biz unwrapped episode 205 After being in
Speaker:corporate America for quite a while,
Speaker:I was kind of getting a little burned out and really
Speaker:wanted to do my own thing.
Speaker:Attention gifters,
Speaker:bakers, crafters and makers pursuing your dream can be fun.
Speaker:Whether you have an established business or looking to start one
Speaker:now you are in the right place.
Speaker:This is gift to biz unwrapped,
Speaker:helping you turn your skill into a flourishing business.
Speaker:Join us for an episode packed full of invaluable guidance,
Speaker:resources, and the support you need to grow your gift biz.
Speaker:Here is your host gift biz gal,
Speaker:Sue moon Heights.
Speaker:Hi there,
Speaker:it's Sue and thanks You so much for joining me on
Speaker:the podcast today.
Speaker:I'm really excited about this story because our guest shares with
Speaker:us her journey with her business development.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I think so many of us think,
Speaker:especially when we're just starting out,
Speaker:and I definitely was guilty of this too,
Speaker:that you have to nail it right at the beginning,
Speaker:like whatever you start has to be perfection right from the
Speaker:beginning. And if not,
Speaker:you're not successful.
Speaker:Truth is that no matter where you start,
Speaker:you always continue to progress and to evolve and Debbie's a
Speaker:perfect example of this.
Speaker:Every single stage of her business was right for her at
Speaker:the time,
Speaker:but when she saw opportunities or when in her heart she
Speaker:was thinking and feeling like she was ready to switch it
Speaker:up, that's exactly what she does.
Speaker:So she's a perfect example for all of us to learn
Speaker:from and I can't wait for you to hear her story,
Speaker:but before we dive into the show I want to tell
Speaker:you where I believe we are going to be at the
Speaker:time this podcast goes live.
Speaker:I've been sharing with you over the last five or six
Speaker:episodes or so that I've had something really exciting in the
Speaker:works and that is a daily planner made specifically for you
Speaker:gifters, bakers,
Speaker:crafters and makers.
Speaker:I didn't know it was going to take as long as
Speaker:it has to actually get them all printed up and have
Speaker:them available,
Speaker:but they should be ready.
Speaker:So I'm super excited to share that with you.
Speaker:I'm recording it now.
Speaker:Hoping everything stays on time.
Speaker:In preparation for that,
Speaker:I've also created a video that gives you an inside look
Speaker:at the planner,
Speaker:but even more than that,
Speaker:I go through what has become a lifesaver for me in
Speaker:terms of productivity in my business and that is what I've
Speaker:termed the power of purpose.
Speaker:People often ask me how I get so much accomplished in
Speaker:my days and apart from being a little crazy Morgan,
Speaker:a lot of hours.
Speaker:What I do is employ the power of to make sure
Speaker:that all the time I'm putting in is getting the most
Speaker:reward. I'm using my time as efficiently and properly as I
Speaker:can and I do that through the power of purpose.
Speaker:I invite you to watch this video.
Speaker:It will share with you the concept of the power of
Speaker:purpose and then it also goes into what the new inspired
Speaker:daily planner is all about.
Speaker:If you already have a planner that you're using,
Speaker:no worries at all because a lot of the concepts that
Speaker:I lay out can be applied to bullet journals or whatever
Speaker:other planner you have.
Speaker:I bet you're wondering where you can get your hands on
Speaker:the video.
Speaker:Just go to gift biz,
Speaker:unwrapped.com forward slash.
Speaker:Planner. I guarantee you you're in for a real treat.
Speaker:Okay. Are you ready?
Speaker:Let's get into the show.
Speaker:Debbie is the owner and certified gift designer at my daddy's
Speaker:house of gifts located in Magnolia,
Speaker:Texas. She's been in the gifting industry since 2014 originally with
Speaker:a business under a different company name after the passing of
Speaker:her dad in 2015 the company name was changed to my
Speaker:daddy's house of gifts to honor his memory.
Speaker:Prior to being in the gifting industry,
Speaker:Debbie had a lengthy career working as an account executive and
Speaker:regional sales manager in the heavyweight air cargo logistics industry,
Speaker:including 10 years at ups.
Speaker:You might note nothing having to do with gifts in her
Speaker:spare time.
Speaker:She enjoys gardening,
Speaker:traveling, and spending time with her husband Richard and giving lots
Speaker:of hugs and kisses to her grand baby.
Speaker:Isaac, welcome to the gift biz unwrapped podcast.
Speaker:Debbie, Thank you.
Speaker:So I appreciate you having me today.
Speaker:I am so excited to dive into your story.
Speaker:But before we do,
Speaker:I would like you to share a little bit of a
Speaker:different side of yourself.
Speaker:And that is to describe who you are through a motivational
Speaker:candle. So if you were to share with us what color
Speaker:it would be and what would be the quote on a
Speaker:candle that speaks all you,
Speaker:Debbie, what would your candle look like?
Speaker:My candle would be white.
Speaker:And the reason why I choose why,
Speaker:because to me white represents freshness and newness.
Speaker:And the reason why I chose this color is because I
Speaker:remember when I was a kid and we lived in Phoenix,
Speaker:our Sunday school class took a trip to the mountains of
Speaker:Flagstaff, Arizona to play in the snow.
Speaker:And what I remember most was the beauty of the fresh
Speaker:snow and the pine trees.
Speaker:And it's just such an incredible tranquil feeling.
Speaker:And it would be scented with a clean,
Speaker:fresh scent,
Speaker:like the smell of the outdoors in the winter time,
Speaker:just crisp and cool.
Speaker:And the I would have would be,
Speaker:every day is a new day,
Speaker:a chance for a fresh start and new beginnings.
Speaker:Perfect. And Adeline's with the white color wonderfully.
Speaker:Right, Exactly.
Speaker:So did you know that I really love snow.
Speaker:That's like my thing is it?
Speaker:Yeah. So I would have been smiling over here when you
Speaker:said the snow and how peaceful and fresh it is.
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:yes, she's my girl.
Speaker:Yes. I mean it is.
Speaker:It's just so beautiful.
Speaker:And here I am in Houston and we rarely get to
Speaker:see snow.
Speaker:Maybe some flurries every now and then.
Speaker:But that just was a memory that just stuck in my
Speaker:head for such a long time.
Speaker:And it's still a fond memory for me.
Speaker:Well you just joined me in Chicago here anytime you like,
Speaker:and I'll show you a little bit of snow.
Speaker:Oh, I'm sure you could.
Speaker:I love you a quote.
Speaker:Every day's a new day because so many things happen and
Speaker:we could just wallow in challenges that come up or things
Speaker:that don't go right.
Speaker:But having a fresh approach every day just puts you like
Speaker:in the clean mental mind state to move forward.
Speaker:Yes, definitely.
Speaker:Definitely. It's a chance for a fresh start.
Speaker:Every day is Every day.
Speaker:Absolutely. Let's not do a fresh start yet.
Speaker:Let's go back a little bit and talk about how you
Speaker:transitioned from air cargo logistics into gifting.
Speaker:Okay. Growing up,
Speaker:my mother was the creative type and she was always creating
Speaker:something, whether it was making him made clothes or if she
Speaker:was drawing or painting home decorating or gardening.
Speaker:I mean she just has this creative genius in her and
Speaker:one of my favorite memories with her was going to the
Speaker:fabric store and helping her to pick out patterns for the
Speaker:clothes she was going to make.
Speaker:Now unfortunately,
Speaker:I didn't pick up the gift of sewing,
Speaker:but I did get some of that creative gene in me
Speaker:and I love to do projects with her.
Speaker:We used to do embroidery projects together and so it was
Speaker:some good memories there.
Speaker:Now my dad also had a little bit of creativeness in
Speaker:him. He liked to do a lot of building with things
Speaker:with his hands,
Speaker:especially doing home improvements.
Speaker:And he was in the manufacturing business most of his life,
Speaker:but he did have a couple of his own businesses growing
Speaker:up. So one of his businesses was a catalog company,
Speaker:which he sold guests from a catalog.
Speaker:So it's kind of like the fore shadowing of online shopping.
Speaker:That's kind of how I look at it.
Speaker:And another company he owned was an outdoor deck building company.
Speaker:Entrepreneurship actually runs in our family.
Speaker:So my dad had with his two businesses and currently my
Speaker:two younger brothers and my sister currently owned their businesses.
Speaker:So it's kind of in our genes as well.
Speaker:I've been at the gifting industry since 2014 as you mentioned
Speaker:in the intro.
Speaker:But prior to that I did work in corporate America and,
Speaker:and worked in the heavy air freight cargo logistics industry for
Speaker:almost 25 years.
Speaker:And after being in corporate America for quite a while,
Speaker:I was kinda getting a little burned out and really wanted
Speaker:to do my own thing.
Speaker:So always had in the back of my mind that I
Speaker:wanted to start my own business but never really had the
Speaker:opportunity. So in 2010 I married my husband,
Speaker:Richard and I moved from Atlanta to Houston and I did
Speaker:work in the air cargo logistics for about another year and
Speaker:a half.
Speaker:But again,
Speaker:I still had that in the back of my mind,
Speaker:mind, you know,
Speaker:I wanted to kind of do something on my own.
Speaker:So I started doing a little bit of research to see
Speaker:what kind of industry would fit with my creative side as
Speaker:well as dealing with customers because working in the logistics industry,
Speaker:my position in sales,
Speaker:I grew to love dealing with people and building that relationship
Speaker:and maintaining that relationship.
Speaker:So I've wanted to find something that I could do that
Speaker:married both of those together,
Speaker:so to speak.
Speaker:In my research,
Speaker:I came across gift baskets.
Speaker:So I started doing a little more investigating and I thought,
Speaker:well, how fitting?
Speaker:I mean it evolved around creativity and relationship building,
Speaker:which something that's highly valued for me is I love to
Speaker:build and maintain relationships.
Speaker:I was still on the fence whether I should start my
Speaker:business. I had a lot of questions still and I knew
Speaker:there'd be a lot of risks.
Speaker:And then something happened that really pushed me over the edge.
Speaker:My husband and I were driving through Louisiana on our way
Speaker:to visit my parents in Georgia and it was nighttime while
Speaker:we were driving and something caught the corner of my eye
Speaker:to the right.
Speaker:I saw this bright light and I just happened to turn
Speaker:and there was this billboard just in the middle of nowhere
Speaker:in the darkness and it had a scripture on it that
Speaker:said, commit to the Lord everything you do and he will
Speaker:make your plans succeed.
Speaker:And I'm a woman of faith.
Speaker:So that to me just kind of really stuck out to
Speaker:me. And I was really excited about that.
Speaker:And I told my husband about it and I said,
Speaker:see, there's my sign.
Speaker:Well, it's in moments like that that you get real clarity
Speaker:too, Right?
Speaker:Because just like why would you randomly turn and see that
Speaker:in bright lights?
Speaker:Right, Right.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:as I mentioned,
Speaker:it was in the middle of nowhere in the dark.
Speaker:It was just amazing how it just happened to be there
Speaker:at the right timing.
Speaker:So sometimes timing is everything.
Speaker:I often say that you put yourself in paths of opportunity
Speaker:and so this is kind of like a path where you
Speaker:were seeing and getting confirmation if you will,
Speaker:whether it's true divine intervention or not,
Speaker:people can have their own thoughts about it.
Speaker:Right. But it's just that interaction at that moment just tells
Speaker:you yes,
Speaker:go forward.
Speaker:Right, exactly.
Speaker:So I was very excited about it and shortly after returned
Speaker:from our trip,
Speaker:I went to the process of getting my business name and
Speaker:my license and I was so eager to get started and
Speaker:take the plunge.
Speaker:I took several classes online and I started going to some
Speaker:networking groups and through a networking group I met another gift
Speaker:designer. Her name is Pat And she had been in the
Speaker:Industry for over 20 years and she has become so invaluable
Speaker:in her mentorship,
Speaker:helping me to learn my skill,
Speaker:hone my skills and different aspects of the business.
Speaker:I mean just has been terrific and to this day she
Speaker:still is probably my biggest influence and mentor in the industry.
Speaker:Let me stop you right here because I want to underline
Speaker:three things that you just mentioned that I think for people
Speaker:starting out are really important.
Speaker:A lot of people who are listening to us right now,
Speaker:Debbie are in a nine to five because they either financially
Speaker:need to be,
Speaker:it's just what they always thought they should be doing.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:there was never an idea of,
Speaker:boy could I really just make it with a business on
Speaker:my own.
Speaker:And I think we often forget how many skills we develop
Speaker:even when we're working for somebody else.
Speaker:Right. And I'm sure you developed a whole lot of other
Speaker:skills besides what we've talked about when you were working in
Speaker:air, cargo logistics,
Speaker:but you recognize what portion of that job you really enjoyed
Speaker:that resonated with you,
Speaker:that felt good to you as a person,
Speaker:and then you kind of laid the groundwork in your mind
Speaker:as to what you were going to do.
Speaker:You just weren't sure of when the timing was.
Speaker:So my first point here was just recognizing what you like
Speaker:and that you were gathering skills even though you weren't owning
Speaker:your own business yet.
Speaker:Right. But then at the point that you decided that you
Speaker:were looking to take the jump,
Speaker:you didn't just jump,
Speaker:you did some investigating,
Speaker:some learning and some research and then setting it up right
Speaker:by registering your company and like getting every,
Speaker:like all the foundation in line.
Speaker:So that's 0.2
Speaker:and 0.3
Speaker:is seeking help and advice from someone who's already been there.
Speaker:Absolutely. You and your mentor,
Speaker:Pat, I'm wondering if I know who Pat is,
Speaker:cause I know a couple of pats in the industry so
Speaker:maybe I do,
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:But most things that we do,
Speaker:someone else has already gone there and is a little bit
Speaker:further ahead of us and to be able to tap into
Speaker:that is really invaluable.
Speaker:And I think a lot of people think they have to
Speaker:do it by themselves or what they're building isn't really there.
Speaker:Is there something,
Speaker:I don't know why,
Speaker:but it takes so much longer when you do it that
Speaker:way. So those three things in terms of identifying skills from
Speaker:corporate, really researching and learning as you start entering in and
Speaker:then having a mentor are all really best practices.
Speaker:Golden, golden.
Speaker:So thank you so much for sharing all of that.
Speaker:So we're at the point where you've got your mentor and
Speaker:what was the name of your first company?
Speaker:Okay, the name of my first company was a play on
Speaker:my last name.
Speaker:It was called a Dame gifts.
Speaker:So it was kind of a play on my last name,
Speaker:which is ADA AME.
Speaker:So Adames gifts,
Speaker:That was the original name.
Speaker:What was that company?
Speaker:It was a gift basket.
Speaker:All gift baskets.
Speaker:Okay, So it was strictly gift baskets?
Speaker:Correct. And As you mentioned in the intro in June of
Speaker:25 the day before father's day,
Speaker:I lost my dad due to complications of ALS and I
Speaker:was very close to him.
Speaker:Very sorry to hear that.
Speaker:Oh, thank you.
Speaker:And I wanted STEM thing to honor his name,
Speaker:honor his memory,
Speaker:keep his memory alive,
Speaker:so I went ahead and changed it to my daddy's house
Speaker:of gifts,
Speaker:so that's when I changed it was in 2015 Did you
Speaker:have any challenges with changing the name in terms of people
Speaker:are understanding what you were doing or did you feel like
Speaker:you lost any sales or any visibility and making a switch?
Speaker:I think there was a little bit of a challenge and
Speaker:changing the name and re-educating my customers in that process.
Speaker:So what I did before I changed the name,
Speaker:I emailed my customers,
Speaker:let them know of the name,
Speaker:change that in 30 days I was changing the name from
Speaker:a Dame's gifts to my daddy's house of gifts.
Speaker:The biggest challenge also was the website,
Speaker:changing the website to a new name.
Speaker:Going through that whole process of resetting everything up with the
Speaker:website and some of my clients still didn't quite know that
Speaker:I had changed company names,
Speaker:so it was a whole reeducating process for my clients.
Speaker:I think I may have lost a couple of them for
Speaker:a short,
Speaker:brief time,
Speaker:but once I go back in and visit them and tell
Speaker:them, you know,
Speaker:they understood And the reason is so endearing too.
Speaker:It's part of the whole story.
Speaker:So that made sense.
Speaker:It was my daddy's house of gifts.
Speaker:Then the same type of company as a Dame's gift to
Speaker:start with.
Speaker:Yes. To start with.
Speaker:It was So only a name change.
Speaker:Yes, exactly.
Speaker:So it was still doing the gift baskets,
Speaker:but just to change in the name until 2016 in 2016
Speaker:I had the opportunity to open up a brick and mortar
Speaker:gift shop.
Speaker:When I had the gift shop,
Speaker:I still did the gift basket,
Speaker:but I also expanded into actual gifts so people could come
Speaker:in and shop and buy different gifts for birthdays,
Speaker:et cetera.
Speaker:That expanded into more than just the gift baskets.
Speaker:Gotcha. And what was your reasoning for going brick and mortar?
Speaker:It was just an opportunity that had come about.
Speaker:I had actually tossed around the idea for quite some time.
Speaker:I thought it would be a way to get my name
Speaker:out there and the company known and to interact with more
Speaker:people and it was very educating for me so I learned
Speaker:a lot more.
Speaker:It's a lot different when you have a home based business
Speaker:versus a brick and mortar business.
Speaker:Talk to us about that a little bit.
Speaker:Sure. So having the brick and mortar it for me,
Speaker:what was the challenge is having product that I thought my
Speaker:customers would be interested in and buying and what I would
Speaker:do is I would ask my customers occasionally what would you
Speaker:like to see in the gift shop?
Speaker:So I would get some feedback that way.
Speaker:Keeping moving.
Speaker:Sometimes it's a bit of a challenge when you have the
Speaker:brick and mortar,
Speaker:especially if you have food products,
Speaker:you don't want it sitting on your shelves too long.
Speaker:And I did have some food products like candy gifts and
Speaker:things like that.
Speaker:So that was some of the challenges that I had.
Speaker:But on the other hand meeting just wonderful people that would
Speaker:come in.
Speaker:I had one lady that really touched my heart.
Speaker:It just sticks out to me as an experience that I'll
Speaker:never forget.
Speaker:She came in and she was just kind of looking around
Speaker:the gift shop and I knew there was something up,
Speaker:but I wasn't quite sure.
Speaker:And then she came up to me and she said,
Speaker:I'm looking for something for my sister in law because I
Speaker:just lost my brother in law.
Speaker:And then she just broke down in tears.
Speaker:And all I could do was just hug her and tell
Speaker:her, you know,
Speaker:I'm sorry and everything's gonna be okay.
Speaker:And I helped her selected a special gift for her sister
Speaker:in law.
Speaker:And by the time she left,
Speaker:she actually had a smile on her face.
Speaker:So to me it was more than just a gift.
Speaker:It was a way of communicating on a human level to
Speaker:somebody. And it touched me so deeply to be able to
Speaker:have a shoulder that she could feel like she could cry
Speaker:on, number one,
Speaker:but also to have a little bit of comfort For sure.
Speaker:And I think gifts overall,
Speaker:what are they?
Speaker:They're further deepening a relationship between people.
Speaker:Yes. That was a real intense wine and impactful,
Speaker:but even someone who would have come in and just bought
Speaker:even more of a routine gift,
Speaker:maybe it was a hostess gift or something like that.
Speaker:Your still then an indirect party to helping someone deepen a
Speaker:relationship. Right.
Speaker:I kind of feel like that's the value behind the gifting
Speaker:industry overall.
Speaker:Absolutely and that's why I'm so blessed to be in this
Speaker:industry because that's how I feel.
Speaker:I feel that I'm putting a smile on somebody's face and
Speaker:I love to do that.
Speaker:Yup, agreed.
Speaker:Okay. I have a question here for you and when you
Speaker:were home-based,
Speaker:we're going to do a little comparison and contrast here.
Speaker:When you were home-based,
Speaker:how were you finding customers?
Speaker:I would do a lot of networking,
Speaker:so I would go to chamber of commerce events.
Speaker:There were several networking groups in the area,
Speaker:specifically for women's,
Speaker:such as Montgomery County association of business women.
Speaker:That was one that was specifically for women.
Speaker:So I would look mostly at networking groups,
Speaker:chamber of commerce events and things like that.
Speaker:And I would go online and research a lot of those
Speaker:out and also do some presentations at realtor offices.
Speaker:Also, I would donate a lot of baskets for charitable events
Speaker:to get my name out there as well.
Speaker:So some fundraising events I would volunteer,
Speaker:Hey, I will gladly donate a basket for that.
Speaker:And they would put out my information and cards to get
Speaker:attention to my business.
Speaker:And so your networking events might've been then through all different
Speaker:parts of the day?
Speaker:Exactly. Okay.
Speaker:So then by contrast,
Speaker:how did you get customers when you were then in a
Speaker:brick and mortar shop And the brick and mortar shop?
Speaker:Core signage out in the front.
Speaker:Also posting on social media,
Speaker:there was a lot of word of mouth and when I
Speaker:had the brick and mortar shop,
Speaker:I was connected to a salon.
Speaker:So it worked out really well because we shared a hallway
Speaker:between our two businesses.
Speaker:So as the ladies would come in for a hair service,
Speaker:for example,
Speaker:they were putting color on their hair.
Speaker:Well, they could come walk through the hallway and come over
Speaker:to the gift shop and do shopping while they still had
Speaker:color processing on their hair.
Speaker:Oh, that's so funny.
Speaker:Oh yeah,
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:So it worked out really well and so I would get
Speaker:a lot of business that way from the ladies that would
Speaker:come in and do hair services.
Speaker:There was also an aesthetician and people that would come in
Speaker:and the lady so would come in for their services through
Speaker:the aesthetician.
Speaker:They would have to walk through the gift shop.
Speaker:So I got a lot of traffic that way as well.
Speaker:And there's also other ladies in the salon that they cut
Speaker:hair for men and so they would come through the shop
Speaker:as well.
Speaker:So I got a lot of traffic that way.
Speaker:It's a really good point because if somebody is looking for
Speaker:a brick and mortar shop,
Speaker:location can be so important because who are you next to?
Speaker:Who's going to attract another audience who might also come to
Speaker:you and vice versa.
Speaker:You bring value then to other people around you as well.
Speaker:So that's something to look at if you're looking at a
Speaker:physical location.
Speaker:So were you still then also networking?
Speaker:No, I wasn't at that time because I was the sole
Speaker:proprietor so I did not really have the opportunity to do
Speaker:the networking.
Speaker:Okay. Can I just tell you here very smart because although
Speaker:I'm a proponent of networking,
Speaker:anytime you can be now at face to face,
Speaker:I've seen so many businesses where somebody will just shut down
Speaker:the shop and go to a networking event thinking that that's
Speaker:a good idea,
Speaker:which it is because you're out in front of people,
Speaker:but then people start to realize that well as a shop
Speaker:it's not necessarily reliable because you never know when you're open
Speaker:or not.
Speaker:Right. And that is a downfall to any business.
Speaker:I think we're on like the fourth best practice that you're
Speaker:sharing with us study,
Speaker:but really smart idea,
Speaker:you kind of substituted different ways,
Speaker:switching out,
Speaker:being heavily reliant on networking events with more visibility.
Speaker:And just by nature of foot traffic,
Speaker:capturing customers in a different way.
Speaker:Right, and another thing I used to do when I had
Speaker:the brick and mortar shop was I would have monthly events.
Speaker:So I would have,
Speaker:say at the holidays I would have a sip and shop.
Speaker:The ladies could come in and they could have maybe a
Speaker:glass of wine and some cheese and do a little shopping.
Speaker:Then I may do another event.
Speaker:We did a back to school event one time in conjunction.
Speaker:I did it in conjunction with the ladies at the shop
Speaker:because back to school was a busy time for them,
Speaker:for haircuts,
Speaker:for the kids.
Speaker:So I had a little special going on while they had
Speaker:the special for the kids for the haircuts going on.
Speaker:So we would do events in conjunction with each other to
Speaker:bring to both businesses.
Speaker:Beautiful. Love that.
Speaker:Yeah, really good.
Speaker:What type of challenges?
Speaker:I mean I think for a lot of people the ultimate
Speaker:success is having a store of your own.
Speaker:Having that store on main street,
Speaker:at least that's the old traditional thinking of being a success.
Speaker:What types of challenges,
Speaker:now that you've done that you've done it both ways.
Speaker:What types of challenges does a store bring you?
Speaker:Well, the challenge that I had with the store was,
Speaker:and this is in hindsight,
Speaker:the location,
Speaker:even though I did get the foot traffic from the salon,
Speaker:the location where it was located was just off a main
Speaker:bridge right over a Lake.
Speaker:It was a Lake community,
Speaker:so even though there's a lot of traffic that would go
Speaker:by if they didn't know that there was an actual little
Speaker:strip center there,
Speaker:they would whiz right past it in order to turn around,
Speaker:they'd have to go like a mile down the road.
Speaker:So that was a drawback because a lot of people didn't
Speaker:want to turn around and come back.
Speaker:That was one of the challenges that I had there and
Speaker:just maintaining the customer base,
Speaker:a new customer base to come in.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I had my regular customers that would come in,
Speaker:but getting new customers sometimes was a challenge to come in.
Speaker:Even though I would do some online advertising and I had
Speaker:signage out there,
Speaker:sometimes it was difficult to build the customer base And just
Speaker:by nature of the costs,
Speaker:you need more customers to maintain a brick and mortar business
Speaker:than a home based business too.
Speaker:So you're not just replacing what you already had.
Speaker:You are having to,
Speaker:I don't know,
Speaker:triple, quadruple.
Speaker:It depends on,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:how the numbers were playing out.
Speaker:This is,
Speaker:It's a great example of an evolution of a business.
Speaker:Debbie first started as a home based business under one company
Speaker:name for a wonderful reason,
Speaker:decided to change the company name,
Speaker:then going into a brick and mortar shop.
Speaker:And now right after a word from our sponsor,
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Speaker:Okay, and so what does my daddy's house of gifts look
Speaker:like today?
Speaker:Well, what I've done is I did end up closing the
Speaker:brick and mortar store February of last year.
Speaker:I did have it for about a year and a half,
Speaker:and now I'm concentrating on the core of my business,
Speaker:which is the gift baskets.
Speaker:And actually that's my passion.
Speaker:So I'm back as a home business,
Speaker:but I've evolved into a little bit different than I was
Speaker:previously. So now I'm specializing in areas.
Speaker:So right now I'm specializing in the real estate industry.
Speaker:I've educated myself to find out what kind of gifts they
Speaker:would need,
Speaker:such as referral gifts,
Speaker:closing gifts,
Speaker:pop by gifts,
Speaker:so educated myself In that industry.
Speaker:So that's where my concentration is right now.
Speaker:And then my next concentration will be with the hotels and
Speaker:in the hospitality industry.
Speaker:So I'm able to stretch it and grow it into a
Speaker:little different instead of just gifts for a birthday or gift
Speaker:for a baby shower.
Speaker:Now it's growing more into larger audiences such as the real
Speaker:estate industry or the hospitality industry.
Speaker:So I'm stretching and growing that way.
Speaker:What I'm really liking about what you're doing.
Speaker:And again,
Speaker:for everybody's product it's a little bit different.
Speaker:But in the gift basket industry,
Speaker:you want repetitive business and accounts that aren't just going to
Speaker:be for Christmas.
Speaker:Like everyone thinks gift baskets.
Speaker:Oh well Christmas or maybe Valentine's day and Easter,
Speaker:but you want business that is going to level out your
Speaker:year, both for production and sales and all that.
Speaker:And so by going the corporate angle,
Speaker:really smart and then even going further diving into specific industries,
Speaker:and I'm saying this more,
Speaker:I know you know this stubby cause,
Speaker:that's why you're doing it.
Speaker:But for our listeners,
Speaker:just think about it.
Speaker:If you're buying a gift basket and you're a realtor and
Speaker:you're buying for your clients,
Speaker:are you going to more likely buy from somebody who's a
Speaker:gift basket generalists to all,
Speaker:or someone who has unique knowledge of why you're buying gifts
Speaker:and probably has product that more relates to what your intentions
Speaker:are as a gift.
Speaker:So you want someone who specializes in an industry where you're
Speaker:already working,
Speaker:right? So it's really smart to niche down like that.
Speaker:And I also love that it's real estate and hospitality industries
Speaker:because they're so conducive,
Speaker:they just lead right into gift baskets.
Speaker:Sure, definitely.
Speaker:And I've even through the national gift basket association,
Speaker:there was a class that was offered and I took the
Speaker:class to get certified in the real estate gifting industry,
Speaker:so it was an intensive course where we learned specifically for
Speaker:the real estate industry.
Speaker:So I received a certification in that as well as received
Speaker:a certification.
Speaker:I'm a certified gift designer,
Speaker:so that shows my commitment to making sure the quality of
Speaker:the gifts is where it needs to be and that as
Speaker:a gift designer,
Speaker:you know you're going to get quality products,
Speaker:that it's not just going to be some general product that
Speaker:you may see at your local grocery store.
Speaker:That I'm committed to the quality of the gifts By product
Speaker:and design.
Speaker:Yes, my product and design.
Speaker:Absolutely. Did you see a difference in the response with people
Speaker:after you've had those credentials?
Speaker:I did because I have one particular customer that she is
Speaker:very, very,
Speaker:yeah, I would say She's very white.
Speaker:I would say she's kind of picky or particular in the
Speaker:design of her gifts.
Speaker:She's been a customer of mine for about three years,
Speaker:but once I started improving a little more and took these
Speaker:classes and all that,
Speaker:it kind of opened her eyes a little more.
Speaker:So now she's become a really regular,
Speaker:but I think it's made a difference when people see that
Speaker:on my business cards,
Speaker:certified gift designers,
Speaker:CGD, and then they ask,
Speaker:well what is that?
Speaker:And I explained to them and then they're like,
Speaker:Oh well that's wonderful.
Speaker:Kind of like a Florida designer when they get certified as
Speaker:a floral designer.
Speaker:In my mind I think,
Speaker:well then you're paying attention to quality of your design and
Speaker:quality of your product.
Speaker:So I think it's an eye opener And it's no small
Speaker:thing. I mean,
Speaker:you take a class,
Speaker:you have to do a test and then also go through
Speaker:an interview,
Speaker:right? Yes.
Speaker:I mean there's a lot to it.
Speaker:It's not just some little thing.
Speaker:Right. Really good.
Speaker:I'm going to put you a little bit on the spot
Speaker:here. Debbie,
Speaker:are you ready?
Speaker:I'm ready.
Speaker:Okay, so you are great at working with people and you've
Speaker:done that through a home based business and brick and mortar
Speaker:shop, et cetera,
Speaker:but we know that people can be challenging to work with
Speaker:and just just the way it is.
Speaker:Yes. Can you recall a time when you had a challenging
Speaker:situation with a client and how you've dealt with it?
Speaker:Oh yes,
Speaker:definitely. I had a client,
Speaker:she was a realtor and I had gone to the office
Speaker:and did a presentation to the whole group there and after
Speaker:the presentation she did a couple of purchases and she had
Speaker:placed an order with me on some special designed boxes.
Speaker:I had sent her the proof for her to approve and
Speaker:I didn't hear from her,
Speaker:so I sent it again.
Speaker:I didn't hear from her.
Speaker:And then finally about three weeks out she said,
Speaker:well, I'm going to have to cancel the order because we're
Speaker:changing the design,
Speaker:et cetera.
Speaker:And I said,
Speaker:okay, well I could assist you with that.
Speaker:Well then I get a charge back from her for the
Speaker:whole order for about a month.
Speaker:I would call her every three or four days.
Speaker:And I didn't hear back from her while I found out
Speaker:that she was sick.
Speaker:She had the flu and she was sick unfortunately.
Speaker:So we talked about it and she explained to me that
Speaker:she was a little bit confused and so we kind of
Speaker:worked it out,
Speaker:but we finally got a resolution to it and I did
Speaker:partially refund her order and also she was still under the
Speaker:weather. So I had mailed her a handwritten card.
Speaker:Hope you're feeling better soon and all that just to make
Speaker:sure things were smooth because I didn't want to have any
Speaker:bad feelings or anything like that.
Speaker:So we did get it resolved.
Speaker:And what would be some learnings that you could advise our
Speaker:listeners with a situation like that?
Speaker:I would advise,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:to make sure that both you and your client are clear
Speaker:and on the same page.
Speaker:So even though it was on an invoice and it was
Speaker:clearly written out for her,
Speaker:she didn't know that she was going to be changing their
Speaker:logo or the design of the artwork.
Speaker:So maybe if there was a little more communication where she
Speaker:would have said,
Speaker:well hold up,
Speaker:we're changing the design,
Speaker:let's not order it.
Speaker:Maybe that might have kind of avoid a little bit of
Speaker:that. Got it.
Speaker:Okay. And you were talking a little bit earlier about doing
Speaker:gifts for,
Speaker:were You offering those at no charge?
Speaker:Most of the occasions I would and it depended on who
Speaker:the organization was and if it was in my budget.
Speaker:And did you see your return?
Speaker:Were you able to see a direct return that if you
Speaker:gave a gift for,
Speaker:let's say it was a golf outing or whatever it is,
Speaker:that you would pick up client and you could connect client
Speaker:sales directly to that?
Speaker:I have on occasion,
Speaker:I mean it doesn't work out all the time that way,
Speaker:but on occasion I have,
Speaker:for me,
Speaker:I'm a giving person.
Speaker:So to me it was something that I wanted to do
Speaker:from my heart.
Speaker:So I felt like it was helping the organization and it
Speaker:was just my way of giving back to the community as
Speaker:well. So even if I didn't see a return to me,
Speaker:it made me feel good that at least I was giving
Speaker:back to my community.
Speaker:And the other thing you said around that,
Speaker:which is important is if it was in your budget.
Speaker:So that leads me to believe that you have a certain
Speaker:dollar allocation each year of the amount of money you'll spend
Speaker:towards gifts that are going to be donations.
Speaker:Yes, yes.
Speaker:Because I mean even though I would love to give to
Speaker:every organization that asks,
Speaker:we've got to be cognizant of what our expenses are too.
Speaker:So I have to budget myself every year.
Speaker:Okay, this is how much I'm going to budget for the
Speaker:specific organizations and try to stay within that budget.
Speaker:I think this is an interesting point because with gifts of
Speaker:any sort,
Speaker:whether it's gift baskets or candles or whatever,
Speaker:we do get approached for charity a lot.
Speaker:Donations or whatever,
Speaker:just just by nature they're going to look at businesses in
Speaker:the area and can you donate something,
Speaker:et cetera.
Speaker:Correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker:but I think going in with the approach that it is
Speaker:a true donation because everyone says you're going to get so
Speaker:much visibility and you're going to get customers from this and
Speaker:all that.
Speaker:I think for a business base you should go in and
Speaker:think of it just as that as a donation.
Speaker:Yes, I agree with you there because as I mentioned,
Speaker:I've had a few returns,
Speaker:but I would say a good percentage.
Speaker:I have not.
Speaker:So you just kind of have to look at who you're
Speaker:donating to.
Speaker:Is it really worth it for you and do you really
Speaker:just want to go in there with the mindset,
Speaker:well, I'll get business from this or I'm just doing it
Speaker:as a gift,
Speaker:as a donation.
Speaker:Right. And let's talk a little bit about your customers today.
Speaker:How do you ensure that they'll continue coming back for business?
Speaker:Well, I love to spoil my customers.
Speaker:I really love to spoil my customers because obviously that's why
Speaker:I'm in business is because of my customers.
Speaker:So I've done a couple of things to keep them interested
Speaker:in coming back.
Speaker:Like I'm implemented to every Ward's program where they can earn
Speaker:points towards rewards such as coupons for discounts.
Speaker:I even have,
Speaker:if they get so many points,
Speaker:they get a free gift and I always try to go
Speaker:above and beyond what they ask.
Speaker:Like I have a customer that she'll order so many pop
Speaker:by gifts every month,
Speaker:so what I'll do is I may throw in a couple
Speaker:of extra for her as a freebie just to say,
Speaker:Hey, this is a free before you,
Speaker:just as a thank you.
Speaker:So you make sure to point out that you've done that
Speaker:too. You don't just let her discover it?
Speaker:Yes. Okay,
Speaker:good, good,
Speaker:good. Because I don't want her to come back and say,
Speaker:did you make a mistake?
Speaker:Like, no,
Speaker:no, that's a freebie.
Speaker:That's for you.
Speaker:I think it's important sometimes if it's not obvious that you
Speaker:don't have to brag about it or say,
Speaker:Oh great me,
Speaker:but just to kind of slip it in the conversation so
Speaker:that they recognize you actually have done something special.
Speaker:Yes, exactly.
Speaker:In fact,
Speaker:I had one situation where my mortgage lender,
Speaker:client, I had done a pop Popeye program for her where
Speaker:we order some chocolate keys for her and I ended up
Speaker:with three extra for her.
Speaker:So I just kind of in a casual conversation,
Speaker:Oh by the way,
Speaker:again, three freebies and she was like,
Speaker:yay. Wonderful.
Speaker:So above and beyond for sure.
Speaker:Let me jump in here real quick for an explanation.
Speaker:You've heard Debbie mentioned now a couple of times pop by
Speaker:gifts and I recognize that a lot of you may have
Speaker:no idea what she's talking about.
Speaker:A Popeye gift is a relatively inexpensive gift that includes some
Speaker:type of a message that people can use for prospecting or
Speaker:to thank a customer for a referral.
Speaker:So realtors or financial industries or anyone in our service industry
Speaker:might purchase a number of these each month and then they
Speaker:will in turn hand them out as reminders and thank you's,
Speaker:et cetera to their customers.
Speaker:And then what I do is with my custom gift baskets,
Speaker:I always make sure that I take pictures and send them
Speaker:to them before I finalize the gift.
Speaker:To make sure it's exactly what they want because it's their
Speaker:gift, it is customized and I want them to feel like
Speaker:they're having a say in it.
Speaker:So I always tell them,
Speaker:this is your gift.
Speaker:I want to make sure you're happy with it and that
Speaker:your recipient will be just as happy with the gift as
Speaker:well. Oh,
Speaker:interesting. So do you let them make adjustments then after you
Speaker:send the picture?
Speaker:Yes I do.
Speaker:So I won't wrap it and I'll send the pictures of
Speaker:it unwrapped and I'll tell them,
Speaker:okay, we could change something in there if you want.
Speaker:I can change something out.
Speaker:But I've been real fortunate that 99% of the time the
Speaker:customers have been happy with it.
Speaker:So I don't want to jinx myself.
Speaker:But so far so good with that.
Speaker:And I think they feel like they got a part in
Speaker:customizing that gift.
Speaker:Once they see the photos and they feel like they have
Speaker:that freedom to make a change if they want.
Speaker:Love it.
Speaker:Yeah. Not only that,
Speaker:but when you order a gift and specially if it's customized,
Speaker:how do you ever know what's actually going out because it's
Speaker:not coming to you.
Speaker:It's going to whoever you're sending it to.
Speaker:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker:That's just added confidence that what you're sending looks beautiful,
Speaker:contains great product and all of that.
Speaker:So love that you do that and that is a big
Speaker:extra step cause I'm sure that takes a lot of extra
Speaker:time too.
Speaker:Yeah it does.
Speaker:But I'd rather have that extra step and that assurance that
Speaker:they're seeing it and what they see in the picture is
Speaker:exactly what either they're going to get to give to their
Speaker:client or what their client's going to be receiving once I
Speaker:send it out.
Speaker:And you equate all of these things then to retaining customers
Speaker:so that they come back over and over.
Speaker:Yes, definitely.
Speaker:Beautiful. Okay.
Speaker:So if you were to think of,
Speaker:I feel like I'm,
Speaker:well we are doing an interview,
Speaker:but I'm feeling like this is 20 questions.
Speaker:If you think about as you go through your day,
Speaker:is there any app or tool that you're using that you
Speaker:think our listeners could benefit from knowing about?
Speaker:Definitely for my website,
Speaker:I do use big commerce,
Speaker:which it's great.
Speaker:I can update my website with new products,
Speaker:et cetera,
Speaker:but also the tool that I use in big commerce is
Speaker:the tool that helps me keep up with my orders.
Speaker:So once I receive an order,
Speaker:especially if it's a custom order,
Speaker:I can enter it into the system.
Speaker:I can see the status if it's a waiting fulfillment,
Speaker:if it's waiting for payment,
Speaker:if it's waiting to be shipped.
Speaker:So that's something that has become an invaluable tool for me
Speaker:to help keep up with my orders.
Speaker:Because in the past I was pinning him onto a bulletin
Speaker:board and going through them.
Speaker:So at least here it's a snapshot.
Speaker:I could look at the computer and say,
Speaker:okay, this is my orders,
Speaker:these are the orders that I have for the day,
Speaker:and that helps me keep up with that.
Speaker:For advertising,
Speaker:social media advertising specifically,
Speaker:I love the app called Canva.
Speaker:I'm not sure if you use that or no.
Speaker:Love Canva.
Speaker:Oh it's,
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:I'm so in love with it.
Speaker:So I'll do a lot of social media promotional posts through
Speaker:canvas. I'll put it on my Facebook and then I'll post
Speaker:it on my Instagram.
Speaker:So I love Canva and it's free.
Speaker:So that's the good part.
Speaker:That is free.
Speaker:Yeah. And the other thing that's so great about canvas,
Speaker:it sounds like you're doing exactly this,
Speaker:is you can make a design once and then Canva will
Speaker:resize it for the different platforms.
Speaker:Yes. So I really enjoy that aspect of it.
Speaker:And then what I'll do is I'll take those social media
Speaker:posts and then once I get like a collection of them,
Speaker:I'll go and convert it into my newsletter,
Speaker:so to speak,
Speaker:through MailChimp.
Speaker:So they're nice looking posts and then I consolidate a few
Speaker:of them.
Speaker:If I'm doing a specific promotion.
Speaker:For example,
Speaker:I did one like a beach theme,
Speaker:so I had some beach theme to posting.
Speaker:So I put it together and send it out in my
Speaker:newsletter and say I'm dreaming of the beach during this white
Speaker:weather or something to that effect.
Speaker:Just cold out there During the beautiful snow Debbie.
Speaker:So like let's do a beach Saying,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:get people out of the winter blues.
Speaker:It was so do something like that.
Speaker:And MailChimp has been great for that.
Speaker:And you're also repurposing so you're not having to recreate images.
Speaker:Yeah. So that saves some time there.
Speaker:So anything to save some time.
Speaker:So that's a big plus for that as well.
Speaker:And another app that I use,
Speaker:which ties in with big commerce,
Speaker:it goes back to the rewards points program is called smile.
Speaker:Oh. And it works through become worse and it keeps track
Speaker:of my customer's points.
Speaker:So when they order,
Speaker:it'll keep track of their points so they'll know,
Speaker:okay, I'm so many points away from say a $10 coupon.
Speaker:So they could log into their account on the website and
Speaker:see how far away they are from earning a coupon.
Speaker:So that's another app that I really like to use.
Speaker:Also Very nice.
Speaker:And his smile.
Speaker:Oh, just for big commerce.
Speaker:I believe it's just for big commerce.
Speaker:That's the integration that I use it for.
Speaker:My guess is anybody who's on any type of a platform,
Speaker:at least it's a way to research and you know that
Speaker:type of functionality is out there.
Speaker:It's a way to research and see.
Speaker:It's not a way,
Speaker:but it's,
Speaker:you can research and see if there's something that's applicable to
Speaker:whatever platform you're on.
Speaker:Yes. And I think so much better than using,
Speaker:you know how you'll see the little loyalty cards like in
Speaker:a coffee shop or something where it's a punch.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:how would you do that if you're home based and you're
Speaker:not really seeing a customer cause they're calling in the order
Speaker:or online orders.
Speaker:Exactly. Just makes you look so much more professional.
Speaker:And the customers love it because everybody likes to get a
Speaker:coupon. I recently had a customer that she had so many
Speaker:points that she had a $25 coupon off her order,
Speaker:so that was a big deal to her.
Speaker:We all love things like that,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:rewards points and getting coupons and things like that.
Speaker:So what would you say to somebody who's listening,
Speaker:who's maybe just happened upon this show?
Speaker:Maybe they've listened to a couple of podcasts,
Speaker:I don't know,
Speaker:and they're now starting to get serious and thinking,
Speaker:okay, maybe I will start a business.
Speaker:What would you say to that person?
Speaker:I would say number one,
Speaker:educate yourself in your chosen field as much as possible because
Speaker:knowledge is power.
Speaker:Do a lot of research with the internet.
Speaker:There's a plethora of things that you could read and research
Speaker:to learn.
Speaker:Take online classes if your chamber of commerce offers any specific
Speaker:classes, not necessarily related to your field,
Speaker:but maybe just to running a business.
Speaker:And there there's a small business association that some colleges,
Speaker:I think our local college community college has a small business
Speaker:center that they could go to and they could learn about
Speaker:marketing and learn about actually running a business.
Speaker:So those are some good resources.
Speaker:Also, I would like we were talking about before about a
Speaker:mentor. Try to find somebody who's been in the industry for
Speaker:a while and talk to them and find out what they've
Speaker:done and what helped them succeed and some of the battles
Speaker:that they face because it's always important to find out from
Speaker:people that have already been there and they can help you
Speaker:with that.
Speaker:So I would definitely try to find a mentor and if
Speaker:you can work for free with them or for,
Speaker:for them.
Speaker:My friend Pat,
Speaker:that's how I started with her is I would go to
Speaker:her house.
Speaker:She's got a huge studio.
Speaker:So I would go and I would help her do her
Speaker:projects. So she would have some big orders and I would
Speaker:go there and actually help her with them.
Speaker:And that helped to hone my skills And to learn to
Speaker:put things together a certain way.
Speaker:So if you can work with them All on the up
Speaker:and up because she also knew you were looking at starting
Speaker:your own business.
Speaker:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker:So you know,
Speaker:so it helps me to practice my skills.
Speaker:And then I would say don't give up.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I know there's going to be days,
Speaker:it's going to be hard and you're going to feel like
Speaker:giving up,
Speaker:but don't give up.
Speaker:And I have a cute little story about that.
Speaker:A few weeks ago I had the opportunity to be a
Speaker:career day presenter for some first graders at a local elementary
Speaker:school and I had a cute little PowerPoint,
Speaker:so it was very interactive with the kids and we had
Speaker:a lot of fun with it.
Speaker:And one of the slides of my presentation was about characteristics
Speaker:and skills that an entrepreneur may have.
Speaker:So after the slide I said,
Speaker:okay, pop quiz.
Speaker:What were some of the skills and characteristics that we just
Speaker:mentioned? Of course,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:they'd get a piece of candy as their prize.
Speaker:So as the kids were giving their answers,
Speaker:there was one young man and sitting in the center of
Speaker:the class and I called on him and he just looked
Speaker:at me and he said,
Speaker:don't ever,
Speaker:ever give up.
Speaker:And it just amazed me.
Speaker:That wasn't even on the slide.
Speaker:And it just amazed me that really hit home for me.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean,
Speaker:no matter what,
Speaker:just like I think in a nine to five where you
Speaker:get frustrated and you're so angry,
Speaker:those types of things don't go away.
Speaker:When you have your own business,
Speaker:right? You're still going to have days that are challenging and
Speaker:you just,
Speaker:like you said,
Speaker:you don't give up.
Speaker:And what is your candle say?
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:My candle says that each day is a new day in
Speaker:it and a chance for a fresh start.
Speaker:A new beginnings.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:Do you notice how good we were?
Speaker:We just tied it all together.
Speaker:We tied it all together.
Speaker:We did.
Speaker:We did.
Speaker:And now to you,
Speaker:Debbie, a gift specialist,
Speaker:I'd like to offer you a virtual gift.
Speaker:It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.
Speaker:So this is your dream or your goal of almost unreachable
Speaker:Heights that you would wish to obtain.
Speaker:Please accept this gift and open it in our presence.
Speaker:What is inside your box?
Speaker:Oh wow.
Speaker:Well, a dream that I've had for many years is to
Speaker:have a horse ranch where kids with cancer and their families
Speaker:could come to spend a weekend free of charge and to
Speaker:help them forget about the struggles of only for short time.
Speaker:I love kids and I love horses and also the camp
Speaker:would also be for women who are going through cancer cause
Speaker:I'm actually a 10 year stage three breast cancer survivor.
Speaker:This is something near and dear to my heart.
Speaker:So in 2008 is when I fought the whole year of
Speaker:2008 going through this and on my road to recovery.
Speaker:One of the things that really helped me was my daughter
Speaker:and I were riding our horses together a lot and we'd
Speaker:ride with our neighbors and that was so therapeutic for me
Speaker:because horses are very therapeutic.
Speaker:I mean there's a lot of writing schools,
Speaker:therapeutic writing schools,
Speaker:kids that are Sick or kids that have challenges and things
Speaker:like that.
Speaker:For me to have something like that,
Speaker:it would just really be a dream for me.
Speaker:It sounds beautiful.
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:And you know the dreams always start with the thought at
Speaker:first. Yes.
Speaker:Just like that night when you were driving back to Georgia.
Speaker:Absolutely. Absolutely.
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:Debbie, thank you so much.
Speaker:This has been absolutely fabulous.
Speaker:If people want to take a look at your website and
Speaker:see what you're offering,
Speaker:where would you send them?
Speaker:Okay. I'd send them to my website,
Speaker:which is my daddy's house of gifts.com.
Speaker:Perfect. And they could shop online so you could actually order
Speaker:online or if you prefer a customized gift,
Speaker:there's a tab that you can also click on that says
Speaker:order a custom gift basket.
Speaker:So there are a couple of options.
Speaker:Beautiful. Well,
Speaker:thank you so much,
Speaker:Debbie. I've gotten to know you a whole lot better during
Speaker:this interview.
Speaker:I am so impressed with what you're doing and I love
Speaker:the fact that you've had a few stages like home-based,
Speaker:then went brick and mortar,
Speaker:so you got a feel for that for a little while.
Speaker:Now you're back home based,
Speaker:but not back to what you used to do.
Speaker:You continue to evolve and develop and add additional levels of
Speaker:professionalism, complexity,
Speaker:upgrading, you know,
Speaker:whatever you want to call it,
Speaker:but you just keep advancing,
Speaker:which is such a great example for our listeners,
Speaker:so thank you so much for sharing everything today.
Speaker:I really appreciate you being on the show.
Speaker:Thank you,
Speaker:Sue. I really appreciate it.
Speaker:Okay, that's a wrap.
Speaker:I have two things I want to share with you before
Speaker:we sign off.
Speaker:First off,
Speaker:remember to go and watch that power of purpose and inspired
Speaker:planner video.
Speaker:You can see it@giftbizonunwrapped.com
Speaker:forward slash.
Speaker:Planner. There's no opt in.
Speaker:You go directly to the video number two.
Speaker:I have a real treat for you coming up next week.
Speaker:This will be the second of my online coaching calls.
Speaker:Each call that I've selected to do here brings a little
Speaker:bit of a different twist,
Speaker:a little different challenge that people are having with their business
Speaker:so that you can see a wide array of solutions and
Speaker:directions that you can take as you're just starting out,
Speaker:or if you've been in business for a while and have
Speaker:gotten stuck.
Speaker:I can't wait to share with you next week's online coaching
Speaker:call until then,
Speaker:have a great productive week.