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Michael’s Story
The fast version timeline of how he got to today. [3:36] How he identified the need to change his path to photography. [6:36] He didn’t know about his special power yet. [7:30] The My Way decision explained. [8:18] The point of change. [15:56] Pressure makes diamonds and it works perfectly for Michael. [17:11]Candle Flickering Moments
A challenge presented by one of Michael’s respected teachers. [20:46] Taking the action despite a questioning fear. [27:06]Business Building Insights
A lesson about how increasing your product’s value isn’t related to time. [9:24] Why so many people know it’s in the doing … but don’t start. [12:20] Failure is not a person. It is an event. (Zig Ziglar) [14:28] Don’t do this! It’s a sign for you. [19:14] Following your passion is bad advice. [20:08] How Tim Ferris started. A good example of getting started by doing. [28:55] There are a million ways to a single destination. [30:43]Books Michael Recommends
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This is gift biz,
Speaker:unwrapped episode 149,
Speaker:Where we see other people they did not get there.
Speaker:Accidentally Attention.
Speaker:Gifters bakers,
Speaker:crafters, and makers pursuing your dream can be fun.
Speaker:Whether you have an established business or looking to start one.
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Speaker:Join us for an episode,
Speaker:packed full of invaluable guidance,
Speaker:resources, and the support you need to grow.
Speaker:Your gift biz.
Speaker:Here is your host gift biz gal Sue Mon height.
Speaker:Hi there.
Speaker:It's Sue and thank you so much for joining me today.
Speaker:I am going to be introducing you to one spirited and
Speaker:energetic guy by the name of Michael Gavin.
Speaker:And he is with a company called jumpstarters.
Speaker:Michael Kevin spent seven years building a video company that was
Speaker:the envy of everyone in his field.
Speaker:Until one day he woke up to the realization that he
Speaker:had built a cage of his own making.
Speaker:He'd given up so much of his life in the name
Speaker:of something that didn't really matter a whole lot.
Speaker:So he hit reset and over the last three years has
Speaker:rebuilt his life and his career around something that matters.
Speaker:Michael's current company jumpstarters helps creative entrepreneurs to get over the
Speaker:same hurdles that he was able to conquer.
Speaker:This allows him to work with individuals,
Speaker:such as Tim Ferriss,
Speaker:Tony Robbins and Richard Branson.
Speaker:Michael is a big believer in massive imperfect action,
Speaker:rather than getting stuck in the minutia and never moving forward
Speaker:and gift biz listeners.
Speaker:I know because I feel like over this time,
Speaker:I know you well,
Speaker:this is something that we all struggle with.
Speaker:So I am thrilled to be bringing you Michael,
Speaker:and all of his experience to help us uncover and get
Speaker:out of this minutia.
Speaker:Michael, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker:Welcome to the show,
Speaker:Sue. That was fantastic.
Speaker:Thanks for having me.
Speaker:I'm really excited to bring the energy and enthusiasm to your
Speaker:audience. No,
Speaker:you will.
Speaker:We were talking about your photos earlier.
Speaker:You are all about positive energy,
Speaker:which I absolutely love.
Speaker:And I start off every episode with the same question.
Speaker:This is a way for us because all of us,
Speaker:myself and our listeners are creators.
Speaker:So we like to learn a little bit about you in
Speaker:a different way.
Speaker:And that is by having you describe yourself in the way
Speaker:of a motivational candle.
Speaker:So if you were to tell me a color and then
Speaker:a quote or a motto or something that really would resonate
Speaker:with you to create your ideal motivational candle,
Speaker:what would it be by color and Well yellow?
Speaker:Because I love the sun and the energy that it can
Speaker:bring myself and others.
Speaker:And then from there,
Speaker:I always say the worst thing that's going to happen is
Speaker:you get to know and you get to know when you
Speaker:don't ask you,
Speaker:don't try.
Speaker:At least when you try,
Speaker:there's an opportunity for something good to happen.
Speaker:And I think so many people that brings up the Mia,
Speaker:the massive imperfect action we're crippled by the perfect day,
Speaker:the week,
Speaker:the month.
Speaker:Is it sunny?
Speaker:Is it cloudy?
Speaker:Is it,
Speaker:this is it that?
Speaker:And for me being able to work with Tim Ferriss and
Speaker:Tony Robbins and these people,
Speaker:I literally just sent an email and that's it.
Speaker:And I wanted to give back,
Speaker:I wanted to help them because they had helped me.
Speaker:And as a by-product test magic happen,
Speaker:I was just telling a buddy of mine,
Speaker:like literally the spider web effect that happened from 2010.
Speaker:When I made a decision to reach out to Tim Ferris,
Speaker:filmed his launch party for our body.
Speaker:And then from there,
Speaker:he reached out to me actually mid 2011 film to think
Speaker:for him in August,
Speaker:where essentially I became really good friends with one guy at
Speaker:his kimono event in 2011,
Speaker:who now didn't even have this event that he holds today.
Speaker:Oh, mastermind talks.
Speaker:And I went and filmed one of his events there and
Speaker:met a guy who now know officiated my wedding,
Speaker:who somebody that came into his life now I'm best friends
Speaker:with. And it's just crazy.
Speaker:But that was in 2010 that I made a choice to
Speaker:send an email to somebody whose book made a difference in
Speaker:my life.
Speaker:And here we are in 2000,
Speaker:we get this right 18.
Speaker:Now we just rolled the year over.
Speaker:And it's just,
Speaker:there's things I can pinpoint to 2010 that are where I
Speaker:am today.
Speaker:Wow. So this is a perfect demonstration about now not waiting
Speaker:for the absolute perfect moment when all the stars are aligned
Speaker:or whatever other excuse we want to give ourselves.
Speaker:Right. You just decided to take that action and look at
Speaker:where it's bright.
Speaker:Yeah. Well,
Speaker:and it's not,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:so it's for everybody listening,
Speaker:I get it.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it's not it's of course the cliche easier said than done,
Speaker:but I think that we all will,
Speaker:where we see other people,
Speaker:they did not get there accidentally for me,
Speaker:who I am today and how I'm talking on this podcast
Speaker:by energy,
Speaker:my enthusiasm,
Speaker:my confidence,
Speaker:all these things that I can bring out and bring to
Speaker:your listeners is far from who I was and what I
Speaker:was able to do back.
Speaker:I have a video that shows me 1824 and 28,
Speaker:and it's nine day,
Speaker:but it's the same person.
Speaker:It just took me.
Speaker:What's now been probably thousands of hours.
Speaker:I'm 31.
Speaker:Now, since I was 18 of doing this kind of stuff
Speaker:and just starting,
Speaker:but doing it around something I was passionate about,
Speaker:because if you gave me a paper in history and high
Speaker:school to get up in front of the room,
Speaker:I'd have like a heart attack.
Speaker:Then once I spoke about something,
Speaker:I was passionate by so well,
Speaker:there's a shift there.
Speaker:Something different happened because I felt like I knew what I
Speaker:was talking about.
Speaker:And I was enthusiastic.
Speaker:If you start talking about sports right now,
Speaker:you'd probably be talking the whole time.
Speaker:I don't care anymore about sports per se and just whatever.
Speaker:But anyways,
Speaker:let's break This down a little bit because I know that
Speaker:a lot of our listeners probably have nine to five jobs
Speaker:and not probably,
Speaker:I know they do,
Speaker:and they're looking to doing something on the side and they
Speaker:just haven't quite started yet.
Speaker:I don't think everybody's like that because some of us actually
Speaker:do like nine to five jobs.
Speaker:We're doing things that are fulfilling,
Speaker:but we also want more.
Speaker:I'm really curious about your story in that you were doing
Speaker:videos, you knew had a good thing going,
Speaker:but it wasn't fulfilling you.
Speaker:How did you identify that you needed to change?
Speaker:Give us a little bit of understanding about how you actually
Speaker:got to that point of saying yes,
Speaker:it has to happen.
Speaker:Yeah. Well,
Speaker:so as we say the perfect time,
Speaker:unfortunately, I think what ended up,
Speaker:you'll see in my story here is there was a rock
Speaker:bottom for me that actually did happen.
Speaker:And that was the catalyst for the change.
Speaker:But basically,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:for me,
Speaker:I did all sorts of random things from a paper out
Speaker:to, I thought I was going to go to school for
Speaker:kinesiology, be a personal trainer at Bally,
Speaker:total fitness.
Speaker:I did all these things,
Speaker:but my dad worked at the cemetery.
Speaker:We made some home movies.
Speaker:One of the funeral homes essentially asked my dad,
Speaker:if we could make a slideshow,
Speaker:I did that my junior year in high school and more
Speaker:my senior year during the wedding,
Speaker:my senior year.
Speaker:And then from there,
Speaker:I told my parents just give me one year and I
Speaker:don't want to go to college basically.
Speaker:And let me try this thing out,
Speaker:let me see if I can go a little deeper with
Speaker:this. And I really didn't want to go to college.
Speaker:So I went all in David,
Speaker:everything that I had never ended up going to college.
Speaker:It worked out quite well,
Speaker:but basically from 2006 to 2010,
Speaker:I did really well.
Speaker:And in the wedding business specifically,
Speaker:I was really overwhelmed because I did so well that I
Speaker:had more people than I knew what to do with.
Speaker:And I was filming upwards of 30 to 40 weddings in
Speaker:a year.
Speaker:And I did something called a Sandy edit where I shot
Speaker:that day,
Speaker:showed it that night.
Speaker:But I also,
Speaker:from the influence of my peers added on another 10 to
Speaker:12 edits.
Speaker:And what I found was this couples were having their DVDs
Speaker:six to 12 months.
Speaker:And I was asking them how they liked it.
Speaker:And they said,
Speaker:well, the only thing we've watched is the same day at
Speaker:it. And this is a pivot to me.
Speaker:Cause I thought,
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:I'm procrastinating.
Speaker:And all these other 10 to 12 videos that I'm not
Speaker:even excited about doing the couples are telling me they aren't
Speaker:even watching them.
Speaker:And so as a by-product,
Speaker:I'm sitting here not even wanting to go to the movie
Speaker:theater because I'm afraid I'll see it.
Speaker:One of my couples will be ticked off because I haven't
Speaker:delivered the rest of their deliverables for almost upwards of nine
Speaker:plus months.
Speaker:And so I was just going crazy.
Speaker:Now I call this the,
Speaker:my way decision.
Speaker:And I said,
Speaker:I didn't call it that back then.
Speaker:But basically through that overwhelmed,
Speaker:I don't know what to do.
Speaker:Maybe I'll just give up,
Speaker:like, I'm tired of this.
Speaker:I can't take the stress and overwhelm the cages.
Speaker:You mentioned at the very beginning,
Speaker:that was what became the cage.
Speaker:So some people wish to have freedom by doing their own
Speaker:thing and starting their own business.
Speaker:But what people are confused about,
Speaker:and I know I was is that when you start your
Speaker:own thing,
Speaker:it ain't ruin rainbows and butterflies and unicorns.
Speaker:And then you just put in 15 minutes a week and
Speaker:you're making more than enough money to survive.
Speaker:There's a lot of hard work and a lot of things
Speaker:that you don't know how to do and the good,
Speaker:the bad,
Speaker:the, all these things.
Speaker:And so for me,
Speaker:I end up saying,
Speaker:I'm going to edit,
Speaker:dress, speak,
Speaker:shoot everything my way.
Speaker:I have this one thing the same day at it,
Speaker:the couples love it.
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:That's all I'm going to offer people and we'll see what
Speaker:happens. And if it doesn't work well,
Speaker:this is where the scenario of ultimately being in a rock
Speaker:bottom where I felt I couldn't go any lower.
Speaker:So for me,
Speaker:I didn't really have anything to lose because I was already
Speaker:in my mind,
Speaker:losing relationships,
Speaker:losing all sorts of things.
Speaker:And so not being a jerk about it.
Speaker:I started to explain my passion in a new way.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I used to spend 45 minutes telling them the 12 different
Speaker:videos. Well,
Speaker:try to go down to one and explain that and charge
Speaker:the same amount of money.
Speaker:At the time I was charging 3,500
Speaker:for 10 or 12,
Speaker:and now I'm going to charge 3,500
Speaker:for a one.
Speaker:A lot of people think of it.
Speaker:Doesn't take a lot of hard work,
Speaker:effort, time,
Speaker:energy, all these things that it's not valuable because when I
Speaker:wanted to charge more,
Speaker:I thought I needed to actually add more videos,
Speaker:but it wasn't until I went down,
Speaker:found that sweet spot that I was great at and loved
Speaker:doing and poured out my passion on a conversation to somebody
Speaker:about that.
Speaker:One thing.
Speaker:When you come in,
Speaker:you hire Michael Kevin,
Speaker:either to my best,
Speaker:drive him,
Speaker:do anything like there's no in between.
Speaker:You can't hire me for a cheaper package.
Speaker:I do a little less than the best package.
Speaker:I'm going to do my best.
Speaker:I'm going to rock it out and you're not going to
Speaker:have to worry about anything.
Speaker:And in doing that,
Speaker:that's when the next 12 months I got more free time.
Speaker:I made more money.
Speaker:I worked with Tim Ferriss and Tony Robbins and went to
Speaker:Richard Branson's Island.
Speaker:All this crazy things happened within my video production company.
Speaker:And it was a mindset shift.
Speaker:And that's really the big thing that I love helping people
Speaker:make is a shift in their mind that will move mountains
Speaker:for them in their life.
Speaker:Yeah. There's a couple of things with your story that I
Speaker:want to point out to our listeners.
Speaker:The first thing is you are saying that you didn't have,
Speaker:then those 10 different versions anymore.
Speaker:You only had the one,
Speaker:but you also had tested that because you'd talk to people
Speaker:and you'd seen that.
Speaker:That was really where they saw the value.
Speaker:So in your mind,
Speaker:maybe you're offering less for the same price,
Speaker:but people who didn't know about it before don't know that
Speaker:you at one time offered 10 or yes.
Speaker:And so I think that that's important.
Speaker:I'm relating this then to our listeners too,
Speaker:because it's all in how you position and you present,
Speaker:you don't have to think that everybody has been watching you
Speaker:from the past in terms of what you're offering.
Speaker:And I think the other thing that you said that was
Speaker:really significant and applies because so many people who listen are
Speaker:actually the creators of their products,
Speaker:is you're talking about the fact that value and the cost
Speaker:of your product.
Speaker:Doesn't equate to the deliverable.
Speaker:In other words,
Speaker:all that extra time and effort by doing all of those
Speaker:other versions,
Speaker:your real quality,
Speaker:Michael is in the skill that you have behind the camera,
Speaker:capturing the scene of the event in your very unique way.
Speaker:And I'm guessing,
Speaker:I think you would agree with that.
Speaker:And then in that transfers over to the single video,
Speaker:the editing,
Speaker:the time condensed editing that you're still doing for the deliverable
Speaker:that night,
Speaker:and you have the talent to be able to do that.
Speaker:So give biz listeners,
Speaker:I'm also relaying this to you in terms of high value
Speaker:pricing on what you have an innate talent to do.
Speaker:Other people don't see that as being cheap.
Speaker:It's something that they don't have.
Speaker:So think of that when you're looking at pricing,
Speaker:I think that you said a great thing.
Speaker:And then the aspect of,
Speaker:yes, I did.
Speaker:I tried all these things and I did all these things.
Speaker:And then I found that this one thing was the main
Speaker:thing, right?
Speaker:But it is in that doing so that person who's listening
Speaker:right now,
Speaker:who's got the job and has not started is that you
Speaker:have to start.
Speaker:I think that people who think that they're going to come
Speaker:out of the gate with the perfect product and the perfect
Speaker:everything, and then they're just going to be able to go
Speaker:to high dollar amounts or whatever and sell these things.
Speaker:It's fairly unrealistic overall.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I'm a big optimist and positive and anything is possible,
Speaker:but I just think that there's a lot of,
Speaker:that's what cripples people is that everything has to be a
Speaker:certain way.
Speaker:They have to have a business plan.
Speaker:They have to have all these things a certain way.
Speaker:I think some of these things can be great in themselves,
Speaker:but for me,
Speaker:it is the act of dueling and the act of getting
Speaker:started, where you start to really learn and grow and evolve
Speaker:and find your sweet spot.
Speaker:And if you don't get started,
Speaker:you won't just read and listen and watch and think your
Speaker:way into the sweet spot because people are great storytellers.
Speaker:You can have something you think you love and you do
Speaker:do it.
Speaker:If you take the time to try it,
Speaker:you might hate it.
Speaker:And then you might have something you don't think you love.
Speaker:I never ever dreamed of doing anything like that was never
Speaker:on my passion list on my that's,
Speaker:what I got to do.
Speaker:That's what I got.
Speaker:I work hard at,
Speaker:like, what I'm doing today was never on my list of
Speaker:anything. It would scare me to talk to five people in
Speaker:a room.
Speaker:And I used to go to networking meetings and kind of
Speaker:give you a little 92nd thing.
Speaker:And like I'm trembling and feel horrible.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I think a lot of people could probably relate to that
Speaker:thing if they've ever gone to any kind of thing where
Speaker:they have to get up in front of people and they're
Speaker:92nd spiel,
Speaker:but yeah,
Speaker:you've got to just get started.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:apps come out all the time.
Speaker:Apple brings out things where it's doesn't work,
Speaker:right? The first draft and they iterate So important.
Speaker:Yeah. You can't be afraid of that.
Speaker:First thing that's coming out that that's not going to work
Speaker:and exactly what you're saying,
Speaker:famous names everywhere.
Speaker:Right? You can even talk about Oprah.
Speaker:And when she decided to build her own network at first,
Speaker:it wasn't going right.
Speaker:But you have to get started is such an important point.
Speaker:Michael I'm really,
Speaker:really glad you talk about it.
Speaker:One other sweet spot where you asked your questions.
Speaker:I just saw a thing from Zig Ziglar.
Speaker:He said,
Speaker:failure is not a person.
Speaker:It's an event.
Speaker:Oh, that's good.
Speaker:Here's all the time.
Speaker:It's just top of mind.
Speaker:I just think that nobody's ever a failure themselves.
Speaker:No, that's good.
Speaker:So with your story,
Speaker:you decided that you were going to turn around and do
Speaker:this different.
Speaker:So you adjusted your product after hearing from customers.
Speaker:So getting feedback from them of go through the emotion of
Speaker:that, was there,
Speaker:were you afraid to do it and you just drove forward
Speaker:anyway? Or were you feeling comfortable with the decision mentally?
Speaker:What were you saying to,
Speaker:But it's interesting.
Speaker:I really think that when a lot of people they're comfortable,
Speaker:if they're comfortable in their situation and they don't really have
Speaker:any deep passion either way or just it's working,
Speaker:money's good taking care of the bills,
Speaker:all these things that is the worst place to be.
Speaker:If you have this little itch to do something,
Speaker:because you think you have so much,
Speaker:of course,
Speaker:on the line to lose.
Speaker:If you do this and it doesn't work now,
Speaker:I'm not encouraging more than likely studying a lot of behavior
Speaker:and personality over the last three years.
Speaker:A lot of your listeners in what you described to me
Speaker:are not the people who should be anywhere like me,
Speaker:where I'll jump out of the plane and build my wings
Speaker:on the way down.
Speaker:They need a professional wing builder to know that wing is
Speaker:perfect. And then it has a by-product.
Speaker:They still might not jump.
Speaker:But in that vein,
Speaker:if again,
Speaker:you start looking at things as little projects,
Speaker:it makes a big difference.
Speaker:So for me,
Speaker:I was in the phase of like,
Speaker:I don't have anything to lose.
Speaker:I want to give I'm.
Speaker:So I'm losing like the person I'm married to now we
Speaker:broke up,
Speaker:like all these things happen.
Speaker:That for me,
Speaker:I was just,
Speaker:I felt horrible.
Speaker:I felt absolutely horrible.
Speaker:And I'm talk about when your mind thinks that charging more
Speaker:or any more money or whatever is equated to more effort,
Speaker:more hours,
Speaker:more time,
Speaker:more deliverables.
Speaker:And finally,
Speaker:I'm just like have this epiphany that maybe in part of
Speaker:this did come from Tim Ferriss's book,
Speaker:the four hour work week and the 80 20 rule.
Speaker:And some of those things where I saw that really 20%
Speaker:of my effort was giving me 80% of my results.
Speaker:That's how I kind of,
Speaker:when I started asking people about the same data and whatever.
Speaker:And so I'm like I have to do it.
Speaker:And for me,
Speaker:because I wasn't comfortable by any stretch of the imagination and
Speaker:thought I had more to gain than I definitely had to
Speaker:lose. I did it.
Speaker:I started to speak to people when people used to ask
Speaker:me, well,
Speaker:wouldn't it be better if you spent more than two hours
Speaker:on our video?
Speaker:And of course,
Speaker:a lot of people listening.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I think the logic,
Speaker:sometimes that people think is yes,
Speaker:if I spent 10 hours on your video,
Speaker:it will be better than if I spent it.
Speaker:But for me,
Speaker:that was a huge lie because how I'm wired pressure.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:pressure makes diamonds.
Speaker:And so for me,
Speaker:pressure for me personally,
Speaker:Michael Gavin,
Speaker:this won't work for all your listeners,
Speaker:but for me,
Speaker:when I had that pressure and I knew I was going
Speaker:to show that to 75,
Speaker:to a few hundred people,
Speaker:I created magic because I was fueled by seeing the reactions
Speaker:in the moment of the people getting an email after I
Speaker:spent a little bit longer time,
Speaker:but it still took me three weeks or three months or
Speaker:whatever. And then getting a thanks so much,
Speaker:we really love it.
Speaker:Like it did nothing for me.
Speaker:And so I just started doing that.
Speaker:I spoke really passionately about what I did because I used
Speaker:to be like,
Speaker:sure, that makes sense two hours versus 10.
Speaker:But then I said,
Speaker:I can't fully explain to you why when I do a
Speaker:video that night at your wedding,
Speaker:it's better than if I have weeks or months.
Speaker:But for me,
Speaker:maybe for others,
Speaker:it's different.
Speaker:But for me,
Speaker:the work you've seen was created that way.
Speaker:And that's the best work that I create.
Speaker:And that was the ship that confidence,
Speaker:the ability to have that certainty and confidence is also a
Speaker:transfer to working with these big names.
Speaker:But why also after working with all the big names,
Speaker:I'm going back to my local community because I found it's
Speaker:people like my mom's aunt who's Damien does,
Speaker:80 pushups a day is at times more inspiring than the
Speaker:biggest name that you might be looking up to right now,
Speaker:Going through that,
Speaker:the one thing that I think is so,
Speaker:so, so important is you framing it as you are,
Speaker:that you talk about being at the pressure for you makes
Speaker:diamonds that makes you different than any other videographer out there,
Speaker:right? Because this is your style.
Speaker:This is what works for you.
Speaker:And people can see the results that you've given to other
Speaker:couples. So that's your story.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:and that's cool.
Speaker:And the value of that turnaround that night is awesome.
Speaker:It's incredible.
Speaker:And for me,
Speaker:for people to think of it this way,
Speaker:I made a shift,
Speaker:it just hit me when you were saying that is that
Speaker:I recognized that I was actually a greater disservice to my
Speaker:clients by quote unquote,
Speaker:doing it their way and not my way,
Speaker:because all the time,
Speaker:if we're needy for money and somebody will be willing to
Speaker:give it to us because we are capable and competent of
Speaker:doing what they're asking,
Speaker:but in our mind,
Speaker:we're going to go,
Speaker:here we go again,
Speaker:another one of these people,
Speaker:and then they're complaining and moaning and not happy,
Speaker:probably not doing our best work,
Speaker:but Hey,
Speaker:they'd pay us for it.
Speaker:And I used to do a lot of that.
Speaker:I still always kind of ultimately did my best,
Speaker:but at the same time,
Speaker:I definitely had things that I was doing that did not
Speaker:excite me.
Speaker:I didn't even want to ever look at it again when
Speaker:I got done doing it.
Speaker:And when I went down to,
Speaker:I want to be proud of what I put together,
Speaker:man, that made a difference.
Speaker:Sure. So the source of where you found energy,
Speaker:combined with the skill made,
Speaker:everything that you offer out so much more unique.
Speaker:So, but you make the comment and I'm super curious about
Speaker:how you're going to talk about this.
Speaker:That following your passion is bad advice.
Speaker:What in the world do you mean by that?
Speaker:I said a little bit of it,
Speaker:not in direct correlation to your question,
Speaker:but what I'm doing today was not my passion.
Speaker:Like it was not on my radar.
Speaker:It was not something I wanted to do.
Speaker:It was not something I liked.
Speaker:It was not something I thought about.
Speaker:It was not in the thing at all.
Speaker:And so it's through this action,
Speaker:just doing things,
Speaker:taking actions,
Speaker:trying things,
Speaker:testing things,
Speaker:tweaking things,
Speaker:costing things.
Speaker:And then,
Speaker:but which I didn't do for a long time,
Speaker:having some awareness around sleep for me in the beginning,
Speaker:I did all of that,
Speaker:but yet I just kept throwing things at the wall forever.
Speaker:I never stopped to step back and see what was sticking.
Speaker:And so for me,
Speaker:I had a lady that was my math teacher.
Speaker:Her husband had an entrepreneur class in college.
Speaker:Who's a professor.
Speaker:And she kept asking me if I wanted to speak.
Speaker:I was like,
Speaker:no way.
Speaker:I'm not speaking.
Speaker:I don't want him to do with that.
Speaker:I got to have a heart attack.
Speaker:I was in a business for a couple of years.
Speaker:So I probably would have ended up being maybe only a
Speaker:sophomore, maybe junior,
Speaker:because she and I went into my local school,
Speaker:said some things and she brought it up again.
Speaker:I saw it.
Speaker:You know what?
Speaker:I'll give it a try.
Speaker:I just,
Speaker:for some reason something came over me.
Speaker:I'll give it a try.
Speaker:I'm driving over there.
Speaker:I remember this vividly and where I was at in the
Speaker:car. And I thought to myself,
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:if I can get through 15 minutes,
Speaker:that'll be amazing.
Speaker:And when I got to the class,
Speaker:the kids are slouched.
Speaker:They don't care.
Speaker:Here we go.
Speaker:Again, another boring thing,
Speaker:whatever who cares.
Speaker:We don't even want to be here.
Speaker:Here's a kid that I didn't go to college.
Speaker:I'm in a college class,
Speaker:kids older than me.
Speaker:And I got done.
Speaker:First of all,
Speaker:the kids were not slouching anymore.
Speaker:They were asking me questions,
Speaker:professors in the back.
Speaker:And I said,
Speaker:well, how long did they ended up going?
Speaker:And he's like,
Speaker:well, class has been over for about 45 minutes.
Speaker:Oh no.
Speaker:And so I found in my life that as you'll see
Speaker:with my answers and everything that's happening here,
Speaker:that is a blessing.
Speaker:And it time's going to be a curse,
Speaker:but I've learned to not look at any of the curse
Speaker:part of it,
Speaker:because for me that just when I get passionate and that
Speaker:was the key I was talking about,
Speaker:what I had done was doing so far within my video
Speaker:production company.
Speaker:And so I just talk passionate about,
Speaker:I showed some videos which helped because then I wasn't really
Speaker:the spotlight.
Speaker:The video was you.
Speaker:I could see people start to get excited.
Speaker:And when I was showing some of that work and stuff.
Speaker:And so that was back when I was maybe 22 and
Speaker:I really didn't start.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it was probably,
Speaker:well, I have more timeframe.
Speaker:It was 2007 or eight.
Speaker:I didn't start a YouTube channel and put motivational videos up
Speaker:until 2013.
Speaker:This podcast is made possible.
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Speaker:for more information.
Speaker:And so it just was a little bug.
Speaker:And then I had a lot of waves.
Speaker:I made my video industry and some people started to ask
Speaker:me to speak at different events.
Speaker:And I had some guys asked me to mentor them and
Speaker:I didn't know what that looked like.
Speaker:And I said,
Speaker:spend a day with me.
Speaker:And this was how this all tie in.
Speaker:And so basically a number of these people went on to
Speaker:build six figure video companies.
Speaker:And within a year to two years after we spent one
Speaker:to two days together,
Speaker:and then one of them gave me credit.
Speaker:They were like,
Speaker:man, I couldn't have done it without you in my mind
Speaker:having very low self worth at the time,
Speaker:my self esteem,
Speaker:but I didn't do anything.
Speaker:Like we just spent a day together.
Speaker:And as I called it,
Speaker:I'm not vomited for eight hours.
Speaker:I don't know what I did to really help you because
Speaker:there was no organization to it or anything.
Speaker:I walked with my grandpa at the wall and I said
Speaker:to him,
Speaker:I said,
Speaker:I'm, you know,
Speaker:kind of like a jumpstart or grandpa,
Speaker:like, you know your car because you left the lights on
Speaker:and you plug cables in with another car and you jump
Speaker:it. And off that car goes.
Speaker:And like,
Speaker:I kept in touch with them,
Speaker:but I didn't like do the work.
Speaker:I didn't give them a program or a step-by-step or anything.
Speaker:But they saw you as the changing point for them.
Speaker:They saw me as that catalyst.
Speaker:Right? Yeah.
Speaker:But what I recognized is that my greater gift is not
Speaker:in shooting with a camera.
Speaker:It's not in editing.
Speaker:It is in this energy and enthusiasm and passion that I
Speaker:bring to conversations with people who are the people like you
Speaker:on here.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:if I'm talking on this right now,
Speaker:if I met any of your listeners in person,
Speaker:I would be the exact same person when I would sit
Speaker:and talk to them about their business.
Speaker:And the difference though,
Speaker:between them listening here and me meeting with them for an
Speaker:hour or two is astronomical.
Speaker:Like I've just seen it over and over again,
Speaker:like people listening to all these things and then we meet
Speaker:up and then magic started to happen for their life within
Speaker:the next three to six months.
Speaker:It's insane.
Speaker:And I think it's because that presence is everything.
Speaker:And then I get them to take actions they've never taken.
Speaker:And then they start accomplishing things.
Speaker:They've never accomplished because you can't accomplish anything by thinking about
Speaker:it, Talk about that,
Speaker:but I want to circle back and you correct me if
Speaker:I'm wrong here.
Speaker:Okay. But what I am hearing from your story that I
Speaker:think will help our listeners too,
Speaker:in terms of this is passion,
Speaker:bad advice.
Speaker:I think what you were saying is you might be passionate
Speaker:about something originally,
Speaker:but you never know how much deeper your passion could be.
Speaker:That could lead you off in a different arm,
Speaker:if you will,
Speaker:until you take action.
Speaker:So you might think you have the Results,
Speaker:just get started and see where it takes you.
Speaker:And it may be something totally different than what you felt
Speaker:that original passion was.
Speaker:Won't be so set on something.
Speaker:So stone fall.
Speaker:So in love with a certain thing.
Speaker:And even if I talk about expectations all the time,
Speaker:like, I mean,
Speaker:my buddy,
Speaker:it's just insane because last year has been a crazy year
Speaker:for us.
Speaker:And I think that,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:honestly, removing expectations has been huge in most areas of my
Speaker:life. Because for me,
Speaker:if I said this needs to happen in five months and
Speaker:it doesn't,
Speaker:I'm devastated.
Speaker:But removing that,
Speaker:that doesn't mean you don't take action.
Speaker:Doesn't mean you don't set some kind of goals or you
Speaker:move forward,
Speaker:but that is the point you move forward.
Speaker:You take the action.
Speaker:I think people are looking for too much clarity through only
Speaker:listening to people like yourself or this podcast or me by
Speaker:just listening.
Speaker:And they're so comfortable with that aspect,
Speaker:but you have to figure out the difference between,
Speaker:do you really want this?
Speaker:Or is it just something like,
Speaker:are you more in love with the result?
Speaker:But when you really have to think about the process,
Speaker:it might take it.
Speaker:Doesn't excite you at all and I've had to learn,
Speaker:and you would probably have seen this in your life.
Speaker:You don't fall in love with the process more than likely
Speaker:actually won't achieve any results.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I would say that listening to podcasts,
Speaker:reading books,
Speaker:capturing information is a pre action.
Speaker:Yes. This is an action.
Speaker:You're taking to get information,
Speaker:but this is not your action because nothing Results from just
Speaker:listening, you have to do So.
Speaker:Yeah, I do this stuff.
Speaker:You do this stuff.
Speaker:There is not me for one second saying this stuff is
Speaker:not valuable at 1000000% is,
Speaker:but the next step with most of the people,
Speaker:they have so much inside of them already.
Speaker:And if they take those first steps,
Speaker:they'll be amazed.
Speaker:Like I have felt so much better in the last three
Speaker:weeks for the actions I've been taking versus the six months
Speaker:prior to it talking about it.
Speaker:And I love talking,
Speaker:But action brings up the possibility of failure,
Speaker:right? Yeah,
Speaker:of course.
Speaker:And that's what people are,
Speaker:of course,
Speaker:so afraid of,
Speaker:but it's inevitable that you will make mistakes and things will
Speaker:not work out.
Speaker:It is going to happen.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:as soon as you recognize that,
Speaker:yes, that will happen 100%.
Speaker:That can stop beans.
Speaker:That's something that's so crippling.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I'm prime person of worrying about what everybody's thinking of me
Speaker:that crippled me.
Speaker:And it took me from being able to help a little
Speaker:bit when I wanted to help people,
Speaker:quote unquote,
Speaker:to helping people.
Speaker:A lot of it because I didn't hold back anymore.
Speaker:I didn't just,
Speaker:well, what are they going to think?
Speaker:What are they going to say?
Speaker:Is that going to push the wrong button?
Speaker:Like what's going to happen.
Speaker:Somebody gave me an acronym.
Speaker:Nice. Nothing inside cares enough.
Speaker:Like if you're being nice to someone you're afraid to quote
Speaker:unquote, speak your truth.
Speaker:You're not really serving.
Speaker:Especially if they're a good friend or somebody,
Speaker:if you know what is happening and you feel in your
Speaker:heart is wrong and maybe they're not seeing it trying to
Speaker:be nice and not say what you may think needs to
Speaker:be heard can actually hurt them more than saying it.
Speaker:And people think saying it is actually where the harm is
Speaker:coming. Okay.
Speaker:So would you say to our listeners who understand what you're
Speaker:saying by theory?
Speaker:Sure. Get it.
Speaker:But they still need to do that action.
Speaker:It's still too scary to start.
Speaker:Whether it's getting up and doing an elevator speech or it's
Speaker:presenting their product out,
Speaker:or even just starting their business.
Speaker:How does someone who is so terrified of doing that?
Speaker:Even though logically they get it,
Speaker:they need to make a move.
Speaker:How do they do it?
Speaker:Sort of just little things,
Speaker:honestly, for me that we make things so humongous.
Speaker:So cliche inch by answer,
Speaker:it's Ascension yard by yard.
Speaker:It's hard.
Speaker:It's truth though.
Speaker:Like don't make it such a huge thing that you think,
Speaker:wow, if I commit to doing this,
Speaker:cause a lot of your listeners are people of commitment.
Speaker:They're very loyal to what they do and they'll do it
Speaker:consistently and they'll do what they're doing more than likely.
Speaker:And they'll do a great job.
Speaker:So the act of committing to something that they think is
Speaker:big and I'm starting a business on my gosh,
Speaker:they've got to get a business license.
Speaker:You start going,
Speaker:chunking out all the things that need to be done.
Speaker:You're like,
Speaker:I don't,
Speaker:I can't find the time to do it.
Speaker:But if you do just a little something,
Speaker:just something,
Speaker:whatever that is,
Speaker:it's small,
Speaker:but don't disregard it as small because all the small add
Speaker:up to make something big.
Speaker:So take things as little,
Speaker:a little project.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I remember Tim Ferris saying,
Speaker:when he start his podcast,
Speaker:who's going to do six.
Speaker:See how it goes.
Speaker:See, do the listeners like it does.
Speaker:He like it,
Speaker:even if the listeners like it,
Speaker:but he hates it.
Speaker:You're not going to keep doing it.
Speaker:And so just doing that little thing as a project that
Speaker:you just set a couple little things that you try and
Speaker:you do without making it some big thing that you're committing
Speaker:yourself to,
Speaker:to me can make a big difference.
Speaker:Yeah. And I see often too,
Speaker:that if you just do something little,
Speaker:it starts to build momentum because you've gotten started.
Speaker:So that little thing leads to the next little thing.
Speaker:And as you're saying inch by inch,
Speaker:it leads to something big down the road.
Speaker:Yeah. And if you don't beat yourself up about where it's
Speaker:leading or what's going on,
Speaker:or if it's right or wrong,
Speaker:or I mean,
Speaker:a lot of people,
Speaker:we do some stuff with a personality assessment and a lot
Speaker:of people who are high in this regulatory line in this
Speaker:black and white thinking get crippled because they think there is
Speaker:one way to do something that way doesn't work.
Speaker:Or they've tried that it's over.
Speaker:They're done.
Speaker:There's no other way for me,
Speaker:life's like Technicolor.
Speaker:There's like a million ways to a destination.
Speaker:And I can give you a whole slew of scenarios in
Speaker:my life that even my wife or other people who actually
Speaker:have that higher black and white thinking,
Speaker:we wouldn't have what we have had.
Speaker:I thought like them,
Speaker:for me,
Speaker:I see a lot of different ways.
Speaker:And that's one of the things I like to bring to
Speaker:people as well is just to start to see that there
Speaker:are lots of ways to get things accomplished.
Speaker:There's not one singular way to do almost anything.
Speaker:There's always an asterix I say.
Speaker:But so just start to think that if this way that
Speaker:I thought doesn't work,
Speaker:it doesn't mean it's actually the only way Which gets to
Speaker:trial and error and failure is only an event.
Speaker:It's the bump in the road,
Speaker:wrapping up this conversation in this way here.
Speaker:I'm curious as to what you'd say,
Speaker:how was it that you moved from being anxious with doing
Speaker:all of that to the total confidence you have now?
Speaker:Gosh, it takes so much.
Speaker:That's the thing.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:that's all I want to hammer home.
Speaker:Things do not happen.
Speaker:Quote unquote,
Speaker:overnight. I started the shift that we're talking about here in
Speaker:2011, but here's the interesting thing.
Speaker:I had two personalities going,
Speaker:and this was I'm crazy.
Speaker:But at the exact same time,
Speaker:meaning I became a hyper confident videographer and the ability to
Speaker:work with Tim Ferriss and Tony Robbins and these people while
Speaker:simultaneously want,
Speaker:I wanted to help and serve and coach and motivate whatever
Speaker:words you want to give to that whole world.
Speaker:How was the 19 year old kid who said,
Speaker:are you kidding me?
Speaker:Who's going to pay me.
Speaker:I don't bring any value.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:up until six to 12 months ago,
Speaker:I still hadn't figured out that reasons that certain things have
Speaker:worked in my life because I was self-sabotaging thinking it was
Speaker:a partner problem that I was having.
Speaker:So partners are bad,
Speaker:but really what the problem was is it was me.
Speaker:And the fact that I sabotaged every situation I was in,
Speaker:because I thought,
Speaker:well, they'll be fine without me,
Speaker:but I will be fine without them because I'm bringing much
Speaker:value to the table here.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:my one buddy and up business was 50 hours.
Speaker:Let's say to spend on something.
Speaker:He spent 48 of them.
Speaker:And I spent two,
Speaker:we blew up this thing in 2014,
Speaker:went really well.
Speaker:I was 50 50 with him.
Speaker:And then I was not putting in much time when we
Speaker:separated his business with nothing but down over those next,
Speaker:it doesn't even exist anymore and not to give myself all
Speaker:credit. But at the same time,
Speaker:I've seen other things like this happen.
Speaker:And now I've started to see that the value I bring
Speaker:to the table,
Speaker:doesn't always require normous loads of time.
Speaker:And I'm always thinking about certain things.
Speaker:So I was always thinking about that business and all the
Speaker:years prior and all the other little,
Speaker:my enthusiasm,
Speaker:my encouragement,
Speaker:my strategy,
Speaker:all those things did require 40 hours to build a website
Speaker:or whatever,
Speaker:but took me two seconds to tell him.
Speaker:But that was enormously valuable.
Speaker:Yeah. I'm glad that you bring this up.
Speaker:This has been a theme through our whole talk and it's
Speaker:so important that the amount of time that's put in does
Speaker:not equal the value that comes from the result that you're
Speaker:creating so important.
Speaker:And it takes time to build your value.
Speaker:The starting is exactly that like this starting today with anything.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:my one buddy used to say by you cutting your,
Speaker:I don't know,
Speaker:random one still,
Speaker:but using the fork to cut a piece of meat.
Speaker:If you're having a piece of chicken,
Speaker:then you cut it going.
Speaker:Good job.
Speaker:It was a good cut.
Speaker:Just something stupid you pinch on.
Speaker:Wow. I did that.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:little things,
Speaker:you do some small for a friend and you just do
Speaker:these little,
Speaker:that don't even have anything to do with business.
Speaker:And you start to build yourself up because I would bet
Speaker:that a lot of your listeners,
Speaker:more than likely suffer from low self esteem,
Speaker:low self worth.
Speaker:They don't think they're good enough.
Speaker:They don't think anything.
Speaker:They do brings value.
Speaker:Because for me,
Speaker:I read a thing about a true altruism.
Speaker:I hated the spotlight.
Speaker:I hated getting the credit,
Speaker:like the whole thing the guy said,
Speaker:Oh, I would have done it without you.
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:I don't go anything,
Speaker:whatever man.
Speaker:Like, I mean,
Speaker:I just,
Speaker:because this thing,
Speaker:I read that a true altruism doesn't want the credit.
Speaker:They don't want to be the hero because what they're doing,
Speaker:they think is the right thing to do.
Speaker:But the thing that's the right thing for me that I
Speaker:love to do is actually a thing of high value.
Speaker:But who you're hearing today was a person who spent 10
Speaker:plus years working to sound and be who I am today.
Speaker:And that's the whole thing.
Speaker:It starts with little things day by day,
Speaker:trying things.
Speaker:And you don't recognize that everything you're doing in your life
Speaker:right now makes up who you are and what you'll bring
Speaker:to the world tomorrow.
Speaker:Absolutely. And sometimes we just have to get out of our
Speaker:own way.
Speaker:I believe me,
Speaker:everything you hear from me,
Speaker:I still have the getting in my way.
Speaker:So it's not,
Speaker:I believe that as a whole,
Speaker:you just end up controlling things.
Speaker:They don't control you,
Speaker:but it doesn't mean they don't affect you.
Speaker:Well, yeah,
Speaker:you just have to live with it.
Speaker:Peoples call this different things,
Speaker:imposter syndrome,
Speaker:whatever you want to say.
Speaker:It's alive and well,
Speaker:I think in all of us,
Speaker:even people who are huge,
Speaker:you still hear that they get nervous and that they get
Speaker:anxious. Do you have to live with it?
Speaker:Are you accepted?
Speaker:And it's part of the story.
Speaker:There would be names that I can name right now that
Speaker:you'd be shocked at the things I've seen from working with
Speaker:these people.
Speaker:So I won't say any names.
Speaker:I'm not like that.
Speaker:Don't need to do that.
Speaker:The other thing I just want to bring to mind before
Speaker:a couple of final questions for you is those of you
Speaker:who are out there and are working a nine to five
Speaker:job as Michael's talking about just little things getting started,
Speaker:you can go at night.
Speaker:And if you're thinking of starting a business,
Speaker:just the littlest first steps you can take,
Speaker:it doesn't mean that you're quitting your nine to five jobs.
Speaker:You can do little things and start reaching for your dreams.
Speaker:You don't have to wait for the stars to align.
Speaker:Like we were talking about in the beginning,
Speaker:it's the little things.
Speaker:So I want to challenge everybody who knows.
Speaker:They're trying to get somewhere just to do that first little
Speaker:thing, just the first one.
Speaker:And you'll see what starts to happen from there.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Michael you've mentioned books throughout here.
Speaker:What are you reading right now?
Speaker:Oh man.
Speaker:My phone is not in front of me,
Speaker:but I kinda just had some there's one.
Speaker:Anything you want by Derek?
Speaker:Sivers I always mentioned he started CD baby.
Speaker:I just love it.
Speaker:It's short.
Speaker:I listen.
Speaker:So audio book that for me,
Speaker:he's really could,
Speaker:which I definitely try to learn,
Speaker:being really articulate with his responses.
Speaker:And so it's a short little like our list,
Speaker:but his nuggets and the way he thinks about business and
Speaker:the way he got started and all these things,
Speaker:it's a good way for that.
Speaker:Just get started and really what it became that he sold
Speaker:for like 20 million was not in any way,
Speaker:shape or form what he wanted.
Speaker:It was,
Speaker:he started basically only 30 seconds here.
Speaker:He wanted to sell his albums online before PayPal,
Speaker:before anything,
Speaker:he spent like three to six months getting the coding to
Speaker:put a buy button on his website to sell an album.
Speaker:And that turned into this CD baby.
Speaker:They became a company sold 10 years later for $20 million.
Speaker:And people kept asking him,
Speaker:how do you do it?
Speaker:And he goes,
Speaker:I don't know,
Speaker:I'm trying to keep this thing small.
Speaker:It just keeps growing.
Speaker:He's wasn't trying to do it.
Speaker:But when you just do that thing,
Speaker:that you're solving almost your own problem and you just love
Speaker:doing it.
Speaker:It's amazing.
Speaker:What can come when you don't complicate it by thinking actually,
Speaker:how do we turn to some business?
Speaker:How many monetize?
Speaker:How am I going to market?
Speaker:How did that?
Speaker:Dah, dah,
Speaker:dah, just get it out there.
Speaker:Okay. So the book is called anything you want it is
Speaker:available on audible and gift biz listeners.
Speaker:If you haven't done so already,
Speaker:I'd like to offer you a book for free on me.
Speaker:An audible book.
Speaker:All you need to do is go to gift biz,
Speaker:book.com and grab a book.
Speaker:This one or another one that interests you.
Speaker:But this one sounded pretty good,
Speaker:Michael. Perfect.
Speaker:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker:I love listening to audio books.
Speaker:That's perfect gift.
Speaker:So finally I would like to invite you to dare to
Speaker:dream. I'd like to present you with a virtual gift.
Speaker:It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.
Speaker:So this is your dream or your next goal of almost
Speaker:Heights that you would wish to obtain.
Speaker:Please accept this gift and open it in our presence.
Speaker:What is inside your box For me?
Speaker:I'm just going local again.
Speaker:I've traveled all over 10 bucks to,
Speaker:to do all these things.
Speaker:Some of these things we've mentioned on here,
Speaker:and I'm a big family guy.
Speaker:I've always been,
Speaker:I've lived in the same town,
Speaker:all 31 years of my life.
Speaker:And I just want to bring the fire,
Speaker:the energy,
Speaker:the enthusiasm,
Speaker:the connections,
Speaker:the relationships,
Speaker:the information,
Speaker:all these things that I've acquired in these last 10 to
Speaker:12 years and bring that back to my local town.
Speaker:And it's amazing the response that I'm getting from people cause
Speaker:I'm messaging every single person that because I have different people
Speaker:promoted, whatever,
Speaker:doing little things,
Speaker:and I'm getting a little they're going,
Speaker:or they're interested on the little Facebook event and every person
Speaker:who clicks that I added as a friend and I send
Speaker:them a message.
Speaker:And then I've had about 80 people.
Speaker:So far comment back,
Speaker:but I've still had 40 or 50 that I've,
Speaker:they've added me and we're friends now and they showed interest,
Speaker:but didn't I go on and on.
Speaker:But that's a prime example.
Speaker:All these people I've messaged and said happy whatever day it
Speaker:is. I hope you're having a great week.
Speaker:And I just wanted to reach out to everybody.
Speaker:Personally, who's showing interest in the event.
Speaker:Cause I want to make this a great value for you.
Speaker:If you choose to come and I'm having a bunch of
Speaker:people apply while simultaneously a ton who aren't even replying to
Speaker:my good friend who recommended one of them even told me
Speaker:the one girl said,
Speaker:yeah, I didn't open his messages.
Speaker:I thought that was kind of weird yet.
Speaker:I have other people going,
Speaker:Oh my God,
Speaker:I can't wait for this.
Speaker:Our town needs this.
Speaker:So it's just,
Speaker:you're going to have opinions left and right.
Speaker:And even right now I had a person say a very
Speaker:little hateful thing to me,
Speaker:not one of the comments,
Speaker:but it just I've developed the skin again over all these
Speaker:years because I can't let no one ruin me from the
Speaker:many. And the many right now are very excited.
Speaker:And so I'm very excited to just see what happens here
Speaker:and starting to make the change where I'm at and my
Speaker:hometown rather than the world.
Speaker:It's so exciting.
Speaker:You're going to attract the people that are right for you.
Speaker:There's always going to be some people who,
Speaker:for whatever reason,
Speaker:aren't going to be a match and that's okay.
Speaker:But look at all the people that you are attracting.
Speaker:I, my message is attracting the right people because what they're
Speaker:saying is exactly like,
Speaker:all right,
Speaker:it's hitting home.
Speaker:We were talking about all this in the pre-chat and just,
Speaker:we so often think that the value can't be right in
Speaker:our backyard.
Speaker:Just the intro on that to us.
Speaker:That's for doggone.
Speaker:Sure. It's so true.
Speaker:I'm so excited to hear the Results.
Speaker:If our listeners want to know more about you,
Speaker:Michael, where would you direct them?
Speaker:One, you can connect directly with me on Facebook,
Speaker:facebook.com, G BBS 86.
Speaker:You'll find all sorts of them doing tons of Facebook lives
Speaker:and different things.
Speaker:But also I send a lot of people which then get
Speaker:you to all the places I am on.
Speaker:Take mia.com
Speaker:and I audio books on there.
Speaker:There's a personality assessment.
Speaker:People can take all these things are free.
Speaker:You can check that out.
Speaker:Then it links up to my YouTube and all that there
Speaker:as well.
Speaker:Perfect. Well,
Speaker:Michael, your enthusiasm is contagious.
Speaker:I don't think anybody who's getting done listening to this show.
Speaker:Isn't excited and revved up and charged and let's you and
Speaker:I both together convince them that now is the time for
Speaker:them to take action right now.
Speaker:Alrighty. Thank you so much,
Speaker:Michael, for sharing your time and may your candle,
Speaker:that yellow candle about taking action and all of that always
Speaker:burn bright.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:Appreciate it.
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