Episode #10 Season 24: Shaun Boyce & Justin Yeo

In this episode of 10 Minutes of Tennis, Shaun talks to world-renowned tennis coach, Justin Yeo, Australian in Puerto Rico. We discuss Plan A vs Plan B and is there a Plan C for your tennis matches.

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So, I will say my typical, hey, hey, this is Shaun with GoTennis!

and we are talking with world-renowned tennis coach

Aussie in Puerto Rico, Justin Yeo, that always makes him smile when I say that

because I know his humility, but I just like saying world-renowned tennis coach.

Maybe one day somebody will say that about me, but I'm not worried about it.

Justin, good morning and we are talking today about my plans.

My game plans as a test player.

I am, I got my plan A, I got my plan B, maybe, if I got a plan B,

like if a plan A doesn't work, I'm going to plan B and if plan B doesn't work,

I would guess most people don't even have a plan C.

So, where are we going with this, Justin?

Yeah.

Well, plan A, plan B, plan C.

Not many people talk about C, but A and B very important.

You know, you've also got to realize that you sometimes not playing the player

that you're about to play.

And if you don't play them regularly enough, like going into its ornament,

you never know if their game is evolved.

So, if their game is evolved, you've got to have another plan

to be able to outdo what they've now played.

And a subject that again, it's really close to my heart,

as nobody talks about this,

Federer, Jogavitch, Nadal, never practice with each other.

The only time they ever played each other,

was in the finals of most of the tournaments and most of the Grand Slam.

So, and they would never literally face the guy

and see the upgrades or the evolve or the new styles that they've tried to add

to stay on top until they play it.

So, when they go out and play it, they have to be prepared for, well,

a game A, a game B, I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that.

But if you haven't faced it, then maybe C is, hey, what's my gut telling me

and how am I going to beat this guy today?

And it could be just a mental thing.

It could be just say, I am not missing today.

I'm not missing at all.

And that could be your seat.

So, I think when people think about that in preparation

before coming on the court, it gives them the opportunity

to evolve and move throughout the match.

If not, we see people crumble very quickly

because the game has taken away from me and there's no backup.

You can see me put the towel over their head and sit in the chain

and you're going to let that album go and do how I stop this.

I have to say, the toilet breaks lately, I help them get from B to C and A to B and the coy-out.

You can say, they get a little bit of a disconnect from the crowd.

They get into the and really start to go, okay,

how is this going to be in the year right now?

You know, and the Dallas is the most basic for me.

I've always said, his game name is absolutely close-less

and that is no one forced their route.

I mean, that's all the go counts.

If you listen to every interview he's ever done,

they say, hey, what happened in the third season?

I mean, to my other voice edits.

I mean, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nick said I want--

He had like five.

Right, five, and I didn't say that.

Nick said I want, did they?

And he made the one point two.

Me too.

And that's his guy, man.

Yeah.

Yeah, and being healed and healed, like the move further back from the baseline or further up

to try to get more defense or what.

I mean, that's--

And nowadays, his whole A/B is totally different

because he's only two feet behind the baseline.

And that guy to me is the epitome of tennis

because he's a bolt and a bolt and a bolt to continue being where he is.

And his game A and game B now, which a lot of people don't understand, is tactical.

And when I say tactical, he knows that his opponent doesn't like 70% of balls here,

that they like him here.

So he'll play 70% of balls right there for the guy all day long.

He knew he had to play 70% to 80% into Federer's backhand or he's going to get eaten up all day.

So I mean, there's your A and your B and C.

I've watched honestly too many of the Diles matches where he was three feet behind the baseline,

losing, and then he goes 9 feet and wins the match.

So-- but he can't do that anymore because he's part of this line of law.

So that's what--

I know you said you weren't going to talk about this, but we have the opposite problem here in the US.

Somebody says, I don't want to talk about it.

I'm pushing. I'm like, oh, I'm getting this.

The opposite problem in the US where we almost don't have a plan B.

Because right now, we've been years since Andy Rodic made a great career of it.

But I don't think anything away from Andy Rodic.

I think he should have a couple of things.

I still struggle with that high backhand ball, the at Wimbledon.

But the plan A was plan A, plan A, and if plan A doesn't work, just double down on plan A.

It only took him-- it took Andy that far.

No one else has been able to replicate that success with only a plan A from the other side.

So is there a tactical problem?

Are we blaming the American coaches?

What's the problem there?

I mean, plan A is good, but big serve, big forehand, that's great.

But where is the plan B in the US player?

Yeah, I think-- and again, I love Brad Gilbert because he's so tactical.

I think the US-- this is, again, my only personal opinion for coaching 36 years,

have been in the States for half of that.

But I've always just constantly keep seeing-- yeah, I think that was a great comment.

We'll just double down on A.

And then there's just too many errors or just too much pressure.

There's too much going on on the one style.

And I think I would like to see kids from a very young age,

instead of focusing on technique and just hitting the ball,

to literally learning how to play the game and learn on click or learn hitting against the hackers,

learn against every single style.

And if you go up highly ranked,

rate, get highly ranked as a junior, start playing adult early.

So you start learning all the variations as soon as possible.

Because then you're going to have a B and an A.

And that's not taken away from-- so Andy had what?

Massive forehand, massive serve.

Right?

He had an incredible two-handed down the line.

Man, could he clock that thing?

Right? But they were very limited in his weapons.

And when those weapons were taken away,

I mean, Jimi kind of brought the slice in,

brought into the net.

But that was late in his career.

Better to bat advice too.

It's better hit that little short chip and--

Right?

Right.

And if I was as a junior development coach for many years and raised,

many, many national international juniors,

I'd write-- and I'm seeing it.

We're seeing a flow of amazing women and men on the US tour.

No question.

But to get another top 10,

another top five in multiple plays that we can idolize and see,

like another Andy number one.

Jimi kind of is number one.

Joan McRae number one.

You know, I'll go back.

We can go back with all the way back.

It's, you know, Smith, same thing.

They had the variations.

They had a B and an A and a B and a B and an A.

And they could switch that in between points.

You know?

And that's what I would say, trying to develop kids playing

as early as possible.

You know,

my Braille system as far as I'm concerned,

as soon as we get kids playing,

the better they're going to be plays.

And in the United States,

to me, as the number one advantage

over every other country,

every other country,

I've said this over and over as a foreigner,

that every major sport that you watch on TV is tactical.

All you know is tactical.

All you know, for all they're going on there are.

Baseball that make it, they make it, they make it, they're cold.

Basketball, the guy who pulls out the screen,

he says, now we're going to do this.

And we're going to come back from 12 points behind,

just by playing this type of pool.

That happens.

And I'm good with that.

The problem there is, you know who's calling those plays.

It's not player.

Everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the face, right?

Isn't that a punch in the mouth and that it?

Yeah.

And this player's going to go out there and he's going to make

those adjustments.

He's got to figure those things out.

Yeah.

Because though he's got a whole team of coaches behind him

telling him what to do.

Again, it's a matter of playing from an early age instead of hitting.

That's what I'm pointing out.

From a very early age, it's playing more versus hitting.

That will help you learn those fundamentals when you get old enough

that you've got AP and possibly even seen.

So that's all I'm saying now.

And I'm saying, I'm loving seeing all the American males

coming through.

They're all flying.

They are looking like they're growing.

They're looking like they're getting more comfortable

within their game and playing more tactical and staying with it.

They're not just north-south.

They're quick.

They're fast.

I mean, Fritz is his game is growing.

He's, I love to wear a teddy.

But I just see, you know, like all these that really know

what it's to feel like.

And again, once again, A, B and C.

He's known as feels like to play against Alpreas enough.

And they don't, they only match when it's the end of a tournament

or a certain position.

So he doesn't get to feel what that's like until he's in the moment.

And that's why AP and C is so important that when he's in the moment,

he can dig and find a way.

Justin Yao, I appreciate it.

We'll see you next week.

Thank you guys.

It was fun again.

I love it really.

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