40 Plus: Real Men. Real Talk. - Rick Clemons EPISODE 8
Gay, Black, White, Interracial Couple, and an Ex-pastor. Oh my! – Joel Barrett and David Seymour
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Gay, Black, White, Interracial Couple, and an Ex-pastor. Oh my! – Joel Barrett and David Seymour

Man #1 - He was married to a woman. Was a pastor. Then decided he could no longer not live his truth.

Man #2 – He was black, gay, and ready to mate. Then they met and the magic began.

When it seems all the cards are stacked against you because of race, interracial marriage, and a past fraught with religious persecution because you are gay, you gotta wonder, will this relationship survive.

Well my buddy Joel Barrett and his husband David Seymour break all the myths about what you can do when from many peoples perspectives this just shouldn’t work!

Hey Guys, Check This Out!

Are you a guy who keeps struggling to do that thing? You know the thing you keep telling yourself and others you’re going to do, but never do? Then it’s time to get real and figure out why.

Take the 10 Reasons You’re Not Making Your Bold Move Quiz and stop playing it safe. Grab it here at rickclemons.com/10reasons

For a real, deep-dive, one-to-one coaching session where we make things happen to get you out of your own way, check out my Fear Busting Discovery Session that comes with a real, no questions asked, money-back guarantee. Check it out at rickclemons.com/discovery-session

Remember you can access every single episode of 40 Plus: Real Men. Real Talk. at fortypluspodcast.com

Break free of fears. Make bold moves. Live life without apologies

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About Joel and David

Joel Barrett www.JoelSpeaksOut.com is an LGBTQ Writer, Speaker and Gatherer. As a former Baptist pastor and survivor of ex-gay therapy, Joel openly shares his experiences to help us face our fears and live with authenticity and transparency.

He is married to David Seymour, a bi-racial, multi-lingual career federal employee who currently works as a Senior Public Affairs Specialist. From their first date in 2006 through their move to Kansas City, Missouri in 2016, David and Joel remain active and engaged in their local communities through service on various boards and community initiatives.