Episode#:200 Shaun Boyce and Bobby Schindler
Why does GoTennis! exist?
Shaun and Bobby explain the reason for GoTennis!' existence
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Why are we doing this?
Speaker:Why gotennis?
Speaker:And we have agreed on what the problem is as we define it.
Speaker:I'll give our official answer, which is the industry, meaning the tennis industry in Atlanta.
Speaker:The industry is plagued by segregated calendars, overpriced middlemen, and a disjointed
Speaker:community of social tennis players and vendors.
Speaker:The culture includes hyper-competitive tennis coaches and vendors. It includes cash-first transactions
Speaker:and a zero-sum game mentality, which discourages industry cooperation.
Speaker:So Bobby, how would you describe that problem in depth to the listener?
Speaker:Well, I think you're always going to look at an origin point.
Speaker:ALTA was created back in the day.
Speaker:And I think this is the origin story that the Atlanta City lost a professional tournament
Speaker:back in the 70s to a different city because they weren't organized enough.
Speaker:And a couple of individuals sat down and said, "We're never going to make this another
Speaker:little out of this app."
Speaker:And again, and let's create essentially what we're thinking about doing a place that people
Speaker:recreational players can get involved in tennis.
Speaker:What ALTA morphed into was a league.
Speaker:The league and the unprecedented growth of the city of Atlanta in the '90s, in the early 2000s,
Speaker:and the continues today, and ALTA became this gigantic entity that just could not,
Speaker:as you said, could not do everything that probably it initially wanted to, was very smart
Speaker:and they identified, well, that's wrong the league.
Speaker:But it is left a big void on a lot of different bases.
Speaker:Maybe the first one to tell you, look, we can't help you find a team.
Speaker:We can point you in different directions, but we don't have that ability.
Speaker:That's not what we do.
Speaker:We run a league.
Speaker:We can't run junior tournaments per se.
Speaker:We don't look into how to help your junior player get into colleges.
Speaker:We don't associate with clubs.
Speaker:It's very disjointed.
Speaker:And then you factor in the USTA, which, you know, that's a debate for another day.
Speaker:But probably from a leadership standpoint, doesn't necessarily, it's conflicted between whether
Speaker:there the organization that is supposed to grow the game of tennis or the organization that
Speaker:is supposed to produce the next Pete Samprass or Andre Agassi.
Speaker:And that leads to a lot of going nowhere, because we're never sure what we're supposed to be.
Speaker:So again, we're looking at this saying, okay, there's obviously a tremendous opportunity
Speaker:at land, there's 80,000 recreational tennis players that are registered to play out.
Speaker:T2 has done a fantastic job addressing the flexible play league, the people that can't be
Speaker:on such a right or don't want to be on such a regimented schedule.
Speaker:But it started off as a great idea.
Speaker:And I always equate this coming from the R. guys say, "Alta is a bowling league where I grew
Speaker:up."
Speaker:It's just that Atlanta has much better weather.
Speaker:So we were able to do the bowling league outside, but they tapped into a social base.
Speaker:They provided adults commonality, which as you get older, it's hard to make friendships,
Speaker:because you don't share the commonality of all going to the same school or all going
Speaker:to the same practice.
Speaker:Well now all of a sudden, tennis became such a dominant player that we did have commonality,
Speaker:but it's been unable to step out beyond that commonality to build other things.
Speaker:And again, as an aging person in the city of Atlanta who used to go to a bar kid, but I'll
Speaker:grew that.
Speaker:And now listen, I still want to social life.
Speaker:I still want to do things.
Speaker:Where do I do that?
Speaker:And I just think that that's an opportunity.
Speaker:We know we have commonality.
Speaker:We can start with tennis.
Speaker:As we say, it starts with tennis.
Speaker:Where does it end up?
Speaker:That's what we're trying to find out.
Speaker:And that's what we're trying to provide.
Speaker:And the hyper competitiveness of the industry itself from the coaches and the zero-sum game mentality.
Speaker:How do we, how is GoTennis targeting that culture change to be able to help in that way?
Speaker:Yeah, we discussed this a lot.
Speaker:How do we do it?
Speaker:How do we get everybody excited about the project as we are?
Speaker:And the hard part is it's going to take time.
Speaker:It's going to take people, getting involved.
Speaker:I just know with the people that work for me.
Speaker:First of all, I think it's probably culturally or clinical psychologist somebody can come in and
Speaker:say, look, the tennis player who reached this down kind of level that is now capable of teaching
Speaker:it.
Speaker:Tennis is a solitary sport.
Speaker:You're doing it alone.
Speaker:You're out there competing alone.
Speaker:There is not the team environment that others sport.
Speaker:So I think culturally right away, you've been raised a little bit different than somebody
Speaker:who had to survive in a team sport.
Speaker:And I think that translates and as we spoke, I find it far more fun when I'm coaching XDU,
Speaker:when I'm coaching XDF ad, when I'm coaching XDGRAG, when I'm coaching XDTN because we
Speaker:share each other's energy.
Speaker:If we're having a good time with each other, we believe that translates into the energy on
Speaker:the players.
Speaker:That's why we believe even though we're in coming, we get folks from Marietta driving
Speaker:to our drills because it's fun.
Speaker:You're going to go out there, you're going to listen to music.
Speaker:It's going to be an environment that doesn't take itself real seriously.
Speaker:It's there to maximize everybody's time together, try to accomplish something, improve obviously,
Speaker:but in an environment that fosters that and you look forward to coming back because like anything
Speaker:else, you want to just talk about it on the improvement level.
Speaker:You're never going to get better if you don't do it.
Speaker:You won't do it if it's not fun.
Speaker:So if we need you to come out and enjoy yourself and want to come back, well you're going
Speaker:to improve despite of us a lot of times.
Speaker:Hey, even if you're not the greatest coach, but that's the kind of thing we want to try to overcome.
Speaker:But it's going to take time.
Speaker:I truly believe it's going to take people seeing it, getting involved with this realizing
Speaker:these guys aren't lying.
Speaker:They're not trying to steal my business.
Speaker:To me, there's plenty of business for everybody.
Speaker:If we make it simpler and we provide access to more income streams, everybody who
Speaker:make more money too and doing it in a hopefully a fun way beyond just the court.
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