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In this exciting episode of The Flow, we're joined by Laura Davidson from Shure for a live reveal of their newest microphone. Join us for the BIG reveal as we talk all things audio and show you how to level up your podcast, live show, video recordings, and more.


👤 Guest: Laura Davidson

Laura heads up the market development team for Shure where she brings passion and knowledge of gear that comes from over 20 years in the music industry. When she isn’t talking about microphones, she’s singing or speaking into them as a professional singer/songwriter and podcaster. Learn more at www.lauraclapp.com.


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Aloha Flow Riders and welcome to another edition of The Flow.

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Today is a good day. Today is a good day. There's a song about that.

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Anyway, we are going to bring in one of our favoritest, favoritest Ecamm fan

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members who also happens to just run all myriad sorts of marketing things over at Shore.

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She is a expert of all sorts of things.

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But before I bring her on, I want to get everybody in the building to throw

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that 100 emoji into the chat because she just kicked off 100 episodes of her

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podcast, which is super cool.

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I remember this podcast starting in a bathroom with the predecessor of what

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we're going to talk about today.

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So I'll further edward, let's say sup to Laura Davidson.

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Oh my gosh, what's up?

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What's up?

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so oh my gosh oh my

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god is that hilarious it's funny because it came back because

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of comes because of Kendrick but that's just hilarious that was my favorite

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thing when I was a kid it was so fun it was so good yes so first of all congratulations

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on your podcast thanks and I remember this conversation in Albany New York like

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what is it like two and a half years Oh my gosh,

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A people video?

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Yes. And you were like, okay, I started my thing. I'm like episode three and

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I've been recording it with this. And I was like, what the heck is that?

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You go, I didn't show you this. And I was like, oh my God.

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And so, yeah, that was that OG MV88.

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So come on, come on. What are you talking about today then?

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We are a fun story talking about the brand new wireless MoveMic 88 Plus.

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That's what we're talking about. In my video, I'll go ahead and expose my joke

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now because I think it's funny. In my video, I say, in this time, the plus means minus.

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That's good. That's good, Doc. You should be in marketing.

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It turns out.

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Turns out. Funny story. Yeah. Yeah.

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I love that.

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It is so exciting. So you're actually hearing it right now. I am speaking into

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another one that is right here, right in front of me.

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And I am using it in cardioid mode because fun story about this,

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which I'm going to make some noise, tilt it up just a little.

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fun story about what doc likes about this a

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lot is that with the mv 88 plus its predecessor

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which looks funny strangely exactly the

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same uh just shorter you can change the

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polar patterns so how it actually picks up the sound coming into the mic now

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you could do that and it's wireless so i have it in mono cardioid mode meaning

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it's picking up what's coming directly into the mic rejecting what's coming

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in from the rear and the sides uh but you can put it in stereo mode you can

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put it in mono-bi-directional mode,

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meaning you could set it in between yourself and a guest and capture their audio, your audio.

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And then raw mid-side, which is another fancy way of saying it's going to open

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up all the surfaces of the microphone, so the two stereo capsules and the monocardioid

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capsule, and pick everything up so that when you put it into your DAW in post,

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you can split it into multiple tracks of audio, which is super dope, as Doc would say.

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Yes and i i will answer the question and just get the the dog out of the room real quick um

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So this is this is a point of contention with the internet um i am an old school og

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audio person and little kids i shouldn't say that that's super mean um little kid relative

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limited experience people on the internet that are

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all screaming about like everything should be 32 bit float

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and not really because first of

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all you don't need it if you're

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using your microphones properly in the proper environments the only reason why

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people need safety channels is you're not using your equipment right um that's

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mean and but it's just a factual statement because how do we make it this far

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right yes i mean legit how do we make it almost a hundred years of recording without needing it.

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And now everybody wants to have it. But the other part that messes people up

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and they don't realize is if you're doing it for video and you go to put your

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audio back to your video,

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you can get drift because your video application and all the ones that I mess

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with and that I think of mostly stop at 24 bit.

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And when you have a bit match difference, then there's a whole bunch of different

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level processing and things like that.

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So you're actually adding to your production workflow.

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So in a way, no, it doesn't do internal recording, but like you have a recorder,

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whatever you're talking into is recording.

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I can see where that would be cool, but then that's going to make the price a lot more.

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And then you probably not going to get that eight hours of battery life. So, yeah.

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Could you add a recorder and make it record for four to five hours?

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Yes, but you don't really need to. And the truth of the matter is it does have a 3.5 jack out.

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So if you insist, you could jack it into something else that does record.

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And there's like five or six little 32 bit recorders on the market.

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it um i just i've spent

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a lot of time playing with this stuff i like just don't even

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bother using it anymore i just don't it's just

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not necessary i get it like if

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you ruined it before like i have done this i think i've done this

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before but just it's the kind of thing you do once uh you know forget to set

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the gain and then the thing is just like mad loud yeah but it's normally never

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the soft part it's normally you peaked out is what people are looking for and

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what happens is so many people in content creating became one-man bands.

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So they learn everything about how to make cinematic.

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You know the most important thing of cinematic? The score, ask John B. Williams.

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Smart.

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Smart.

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Very smart.

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So there's the answer to that question. Let's just get it out of the way.

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Because everybody asks that question always. Yes.

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Yes. I really do love this thing. So what I want to do real quick is pair mine

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up so we could be on the same microphone. We'll see you next time.

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Uh, that'd be good.

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Yeah. Um, yeah, that's a, that was a good, that was a good, good question, by the way.

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Um, I'm not saying that was a bad question. That is just a common question and

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it is mostly misunderstood by people on the internet.

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I've only seen one of my contemporaries have a fairly intelligent conversation about it.

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And that's Curtis Judd because it's always Curtis Judd.

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That's just the point. He's the only person I've ever seen that sort of bring

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that up, but Like all the little kid camera, I shouldn't say that.

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It's just that I'm old and they're not.

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Oh, snap. They're always like, oh, they're 32-bit. I was like,

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yeah, whatever. Okay, so let me switch to my overhead real fast. Boom.

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Oh, look at that.

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I think I got it contained into the little spot. And then, look,

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I can even do one of these numbers and come in a little closer.

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Let me move the book out of the way. We don't need that.

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All right, so this is super dope. All you're going to do is I'm going to power

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the receiver first. Now, I currently have this thing, Bluetooth,

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connected to my phone, which is something we should talk about. Yes.

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If you are using the Motive video app.

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Or audio app.

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Or audio app. That's true. I always forget about that. You can connect it to

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your phone via Bluetooth, and it works pretty good.

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You would definitely get better audio if you use the receiver,

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but you're not, like, stuck using the receiver.

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Yeah. Exactly. So he's using the receiver right now, but you have multiple options.

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So you push and hold it till it flashes blue and red.

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So now you're gonna have to power it off because you didn't push it longer.

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I let go too quick.

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There we go. Now it turns off. But don't worry if you do that.

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So just push and hold it for like five to 10 seconds.

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When it powers up, it's going to light up and then give you flashing blue and

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red lights. And that's when you know it's in pairing mode.

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There you go. And then if you X out on your receiver, well, it's pairing, but you can X out of that.

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Come here there you go why are you showing those two i want to show this one

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Oh if you had your labs paired you're gonna have to kick one of those out to

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get your idiot plus in there,

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you think the disrespect pot he's got so much fun gear meanwhile louise is like

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where's my shore gear how do i get the shore hookup that's what he's asking me earlier all right.

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There you go.

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Sorry.

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What I did was I grabbed the wrong receiver because I had already done this.

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So there it is. You just go ahead and press the button and it's cool because

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in here, let me up this focus Daniel sign.

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go back did you connect yes it's connected okay reconnect there you go reconnection in progress

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So he had already paired it but normally if you do that it'd be like it would

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walk you through the pairing process.

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All right it says microphone reconnected yes

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all right cool so this is cool because you just press

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this little doohickey and you can rename it which

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i might do because when we get to nab

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myself and mary lou and a couple

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of the folks could have the same thing but you know

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you can do that if you want i'm not going to rename that right now i'm just

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back out um you have some other cool stuff you can do like which i really like

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going to your output settings and what i do is i have mine set wrong so i want

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to fix mine i would accept my usb and i want mix channel left and right. This is correct.

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Actually, no, let's separate it because I can't.

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Then it'll record.

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The hard part is I'm trying to see this with my old self and show you guys at the same time.

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It's really fun. It's really enjoyable. I should like play along at home while

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he's doing this. Let's see what's happening.

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You got your camera mixing levels that you can set. Let me back this out.

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I'm going to leave it on USB.

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Let me back that out. And then I want to go to boom boom boom um yeah i didn't

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what is the high power for i think i understand but that's high

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Power rf so if you want to make sure that you have the max amount of distance

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that you can transmit between the mic and the receiver you put on high power.

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Oh love it i probably not gonna use that because it won't sound delicious when you go that far so

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Go in there.

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Also you're gonna you're gonna kill the battery right yes

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Exactly it drains your battery.

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I like the fact that it has, there it is, polar pattern.

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I like the fact that you can mess with the labels. So I have it in stereo 60,

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but I'm going to put it in mono, not raw side.

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There you go.

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Cardioid, there you go. I'm going to use raw cardioid. The reason why I want

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to use this, LD, correct me if I'm wrong, is I want it not to pick up,

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if the Mac Studio decides to go,

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which it never does but just in case because it'll

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be behind the heart in this particular situation it'll be

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in a crack that sounds so weird nothing this is my desk so if homegirl is sitting

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here like it can hear me and a little bit of me if i start to move but it won't

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hear the back which is good because my phone is back there and if it goes they're

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less likely to hear that Yes.

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Okay, so let me thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk this baby on here.

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Make sure you hit enter on that cardioid pattern so it stores it.

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So it sticks.

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Yes, it's going to say saved.

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Saved. All right, so that's good. Now, you can do left and right swap.

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You can do gain lock. I'm not going to bother with that.

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And then you can do identify. So if you have more than one, I'm assuming you

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can connect two to receiver just like you connect two laugh mics, right?

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No, just one.

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Just one? Okay.

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At least, although, you know, it did look like I could do that earlier.

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Let's test that adventure because I can while you're doing that.

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Yeah, because you have two.

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I know we have two channels, but yeah, I'm sure it does that actually.

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I think I just said the wrong thing on office hours if that's the case,

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but let's let's find out.

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Dude, the fact that Bill said cute and then you was like, what?

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She's not cute. Well, she is, but that was funny.

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I'm going to plug the receiver in.

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And again, if you don't need it to be wireless, you can actually plug this guy

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directly into the computer.

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All right. So, Luis, he is going to make the switch.

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I'm actually going to add a switch.

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Is connected there it is mvr is connected wow oh this is cool i could just lean back and do my show

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oh wait he just started something dumb when i

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do this i can't hear it one second i can't hear laura

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anymore yep we

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lost laura's audio okay she gotta

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switch hers to mvr as well um let me

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set mine so i can hear this because when

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you put it okay so for the people watching at home when i

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stick it into the mvr my sound

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channel is going through but then it's not passing through through uh ecamm

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so if i do it this way now i can hear it pass through ecamm because basically

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i press the playthrough mark the problem with me doing that is it's going to

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come in slightly delayed.

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So what I'll do is put my headphone right in here.

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How about now, Luis?

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I'll put it in the MVR.

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Can you hear me now? Yes. Good to go. Okay. Yeah, I was when I tried to pair

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it and see if I could pair another one to it, it didn't like that.

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See, I can just sit back here and be like the kids with their small little mics.

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I feel very strange. I'm not going to lie.

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But it's still kind of fun.

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Yeah. So you can be wireless is the the main goal

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of this exercise so doc has

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loved the mv88 plus for a very long time as have i but it's always kind of like

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wouldn't it be cool if uh we could be wireless with this and so we are so why

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is that cool for you i'm gonna put this back over here for a second so that i'm not holding it once i.

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And one other thing to note is when you do this and you're using,

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like I'm using these in-ear monitors, these guys are very sensitive.

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So you're going to want to turn it down. You can go deaf.

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Yeah, but give yourself more gain in your receiver because you're quiet.

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Okay. All right. I'm going up, up, up, up, up.

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There we go.

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And then there we go. Bingo. So I've adjusted the gain to 18.

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which is what I adjusted it to yesterday when I was talking to Mary Lou,

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but then I adjusted it again and messed it around.

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But I like this because now I can just kick back and do my show.

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Please do it like that from now on. That is so great.

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Be like, hey, girl.

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Hey. I don't know. It's such a small mic, though. It doesn't really have the same impact.

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But all right. So let's talk about who this microphone is for,

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besides all of you who are watching.

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Why it's so great is because if you use it in monocardioid mode,

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like Doc and I are using it right now, and you adjust your gain right,

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you can have the same beautiful, warm sound that you're accustomed to using

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something like the MV7+.

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You still need more gain on yours. I'm determined.

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I can just eat the mic.

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There we go. Or you can use it out in the field.

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Oh, my God. Musical Tourette's guy over here.

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We share the same affliction. um so like

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when ecamm when the team is at nab and they take

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this out they can be capturing all the sounds of

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nab for a little b-roll action of what

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that looks like for people in stereo uh it's

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versatile is the main gist of the story and i love that i compare it directly

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to my phone because that makes life tremendously easier um it just gives me

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all these workflow options that I didn't really know I had before because I was using MoveMic,

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but I've loved the MV88 Plus for so long that now it's kind of just like,

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This is, uh, this is my new favorite thing. Um, speaking of pairing it to the phone.

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Alicia said I should name mine. My mic sounds nice, which is true. I might do that.

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One of the other things that, that is really, really good is,

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um, Jim said something that I think is true.

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I always thought holding the little box up to the face just seems weird.

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Now the other little box is smaller, so it's not as obnoxious, but the bigger box,

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it just does seem weird to me so that's why i rarely do it and in my video that

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made yesterday i was making fun of lou because what she does in order not to

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hold the box is like stick it to a spatula

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or or a comb or a brush or her cat or

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Her cat oh gosh poor cat.

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Oh yeah gizmo will be rocking the mic doing this doing her thing you know that's

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awesome she's a celebrity she knows she is so i I think this is really cool

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just because, again, the versatility of being able to take it out on the road.

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And when it's not in its little container. Sorry, people. Actually, I can mute this.

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Yeah. One, two, one, two. I'm kidding. Yeah.

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There you go. When you're holding it like this, it feels more normal.

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It does. It has weight to it.

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Yeah. It has a little bit of thing. I will probably wrap it in some sort of silicone.

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So that way it's a little, you know.

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So you don't drop it?

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Yeah, that too.

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Okay. All right.

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But yeah, this is really cool. Because then that way if you ding it or whatever,

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like in your bag, it's not.

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I mean, the covering on short mics is very durable. Again, they have so much

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experience at this, whereas everything else is plastic. This is metal.

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But if you want to, you know, you're like me and don't like scratches on anything,

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then yeah, you can wrap it.

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You could even put a little gaff tape on it. So that way you know which one is yours.

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And it won't. I mean, it just looks normal. That's what I like about it. It looks normal.

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Yes, it does.

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Yes, you can. John said, can you adjust the gain on your motive app on your phone?

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And if so, how much gain? Is there a difference compared to the Move receiver?

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Yeah. From my experience, the receiver is always better because Bluetooth is Bluetooth.

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And even though Shor made a custom Bluetooth, it's still Bluetooth.

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Yes. Like you can only put so much turbo charge in your Corolla. It's still a Corolla.

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Man. All right. Well, that was an interesting comparison. But yes,

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yeah, it's proprietary Bluetooth technology. So it's not the same as pairing

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up your AirPods or what have you, or your phone or, you know,

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or your wireless things.

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But yeah, the receiver lets you have a lot more flexibility and it can go on

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your camera. It can go into your computer like I have it doing right now and

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it can go into your existing workflows.

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So if you're not wanting to pair directly to the phone, then that's another option for you.

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This is really cool because it's just, you know, people always talk about like

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not having the mic in a shot and things of that nature.

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So that's why I think this is cool, because you can just put it there. It's only a tiny bubble.

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And I don't think that matters. You know me. I like to talk into an SM7B,

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but it is very, very good. The sound is incredible.

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Mary Lou said, I've been using my MV88 Plus as a hell, hell plugged in.

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It just makes it even more fun wireless. Absolutely. Yes, absolutely.

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I like the size of it, too, as Gabe is saying. I think I said that right.

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Yeah, it's it's I don't know.

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I don't know how I'm going to explain this. It's going to sound crazy.

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This is going to sound crazy.

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When in tech device, especially has a fun form factor, you're more likely to

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use it. When a tech advice has an odd form factor, it doesn't matter how good it is.

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You're less likely to use it because most muggles, that's you guys,

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are afraid to break your tech.

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So if the thing you're holding seems like you can broke it or it doesn't pack

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well, you are less likely to use it.

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So what makes this so fun is it seems like a normal mic. If that makes any sense, it makes sense to me.

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Thank you, Mary Lou, for backing me up. That's my homie.

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So John wants to know, Laura, can the receiver connect to the computer via USB?

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Yes. I don't know, John. You tell me.

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And what about the iPhone? Yes, USB audio is USB audio.

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So in theory, if your car can accept USB audio, it'll work. Now,

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I've plugged it into my iPhone.

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xm5 my sony's too far back there i didn't feel like doing that but it works

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so anything that accepts usb audio is usb audio so i haven't tried this but in theory into

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The iphone i mean it's is it mfi certified yeah.

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Into the eye

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Oh into the eye how would you plug it into the eye this x this xlr never mind

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doc's getting crazy with the cheese whiz dang man hey.

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You know the coffee didn't kick yet no um so yeah anything that can accept usb audio it should work

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Okay i'm gonna try this let's see this yeah.

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You're gonna try to get two connected to the same

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R no no no no other device the app is very cool though so i was saying there's

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the mode of audio and mode of video apps that are free and you can fully control

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the devices that way but just to say when you're doing that,

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if you don't want to do that, you can also use it with the receiver in your own workflow.

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So you're not limited to our apps, but they're pretty awesome.

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So I'm just saying, you know, why, why do that to yourself when you could have

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a great experience all within our ecosystem?

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Ooh, don't do that. So this is the Motive app. It's on Motive video right now.

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And then when, when you have the short mic connected, it shows here and it gives

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you all the myriad sorts of control.

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What did John say? Thanks for trying. I can't believe I just watched a buddy

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of videos reading up in his mic. And now you're here to answer questions.

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John, you're just good.

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We're here for you.

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Do you have a wireless monitoring device to go with it?

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Headphones in your ears so you can be walking around in, In theory, Bowles Promo TV...

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And my brain read that weird because I live in Hawaii and our team is called

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the Rainbow Warriors, mostly warriors now.

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But everybody still says Bose from way back in the day when we were just rainbows

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and then they changed it.

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And so my brain wants to read that as Bose because, you know, University of Hawaii.

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Anyway, so technically that's sort of what I'm doing now because I have this

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headphone plugged into the R.

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so you could do it that way if you want to monitor using the receiver the mvr or dash r

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Yes so it has a headphone out on

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the receiver it has a headphone out on the back of the microphone so

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the idea of it having it on the back of the microphone is so that you check

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your levels before you start recording make sure you're not peaking or make

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sure you're not too soft and then go wireless because you don't want to be tethered

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to it with a wired headphone but that's why that three and a half millimeters

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on the back of the move mic 88 plus itself,

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so yes you can monitor directly from that or from the receiver bluetooth monitoring

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not so great because there's latency yes.

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Yes see everybody here's the thing about having a real wireless mic and i'm

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i think i mentioned this but again i have to rerecord my whole video because

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i recorded it in the wrong polar pattern.

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One of the things I mentioned in my, my video is everybody comes in and brags

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about the fact that they can connect to your phone, Bluetooth,

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all of the devices that are on the market.

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And this is a factual statement. There's nothing wrong with that statement.

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However, Bluetooth audio doesn't sound good going in.

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Bluetooth audio barely sounds good coming out, just listening to music on your

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headphones, which is why you can't do lossless in earbuds.

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You have to use a deck or something that you can plug in.

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So what Shure did was make a better Bluetooth.

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They built a better mousetrap and it's phenomenal. You just have to use it in your in the app.

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Same thing when you're using like my headphones that I travel with.

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my um ionics is use the

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play app because it does a better job of feeding the audio to your head because

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of sure it's custom custom i mean when you've been around for 99.92 years um

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you know things that other people don't know you just do so that's why paul is so smart oh

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You're so mean and funny it's true it's not.

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All is smarter than us he's been around at least 40 years longer than me no that's not true

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Oh, my goodness.

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All right. So we got the battery life is eight hours.

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Yes.

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We have the four different patterns.

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We have customizable DSP.

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I was going to say, we have not talked about the disc.

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Speak on that.

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Yeah, the DSP for this microphone, you have complete control in both the app and on the receiver.

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So when you, I'm looking at it right now to tell you in real time.

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So audio effects, for example, you have some presets you can go into.

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Right now I have mine in speech mode.

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This is singing mode, flat mode, acoustic mode, and band mode.

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So band mode is changing what my polar pattern is doing behind the scenes.

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So if you were listening in headphones, you probably heard that change.

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Noise reduction. That's my favorite one. So when you're out in the field and

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you have all kinds of noises around you, I just turned mine off.

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So you should be hearing a difference of what my room sounds like.

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Oh, that's pretty quiet. I turned off my space heater. I was freezing a minute ago.

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Okay, noise reduction on. So that just takes the background noise down a notch.

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So you can cut through high pass filter, there's a compressor you can add,

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there's five band EQ, and then the polar patterns.

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And it stores all of those settings to the microphone itself.

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So once you take it, unplug it, unpair it, use it in your different workflows,

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it still remembers those settings.

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That is one of the things that I like. I'm going to answer this question in the weirdest way.

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How do you have double audio now? What did you do? Oh, that's why.

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What is he doing? Oh my God. It's like a crazy experiment.

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All right. What about now?

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There you go. You're good.

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Yeah, I was messing with something. OK, so the question that came up was,

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can you use this in the boom? My configuration watch.

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Oh, wow. Doc's so fancy.

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This pole is nine feet. I'm going to use the old one, 88, as a stand-in.

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Yes. Oh, that kind of boom arm. Oh, they want a boom pole. Okay.

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Well, I don't know. If you say boom mic, this is a boom mic.

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I think they mean like this, Doc.

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That's not a boom mic.

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Well, it's a boom arm for our audience, I would think. i would think that's what who asked that.

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Why i tell the people that nomenclature is important because i i've been doing

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this since black and white tv i'm gonna answer the question with the right answer oh boom

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Pole you're right i'm wrong.

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See i'll

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Just see myself out okay.

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No don't see i this i people all the time like everybody that came in you notice

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my team says slack back nobody said echo no it ain't echo all right i try to

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teach people the right thing because if you go to support and you go, Hey, I have an echo.

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They're going to go down a different path because that's not what they're looking

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for. If you have slapback, that's a different thing. So I try to teach my folks

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to use proper nomenclature.

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So yes, this is really cool because of the attractions that it come with.

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Thank you, Daryl. Because of the connections that it has. And this is I was going to say monofiber.

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Come on, dude. This is a carbon fiber, nine foot pole.

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So in theory, oh this would be real cool to take out to the beach and wirelessly get some waves

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and the surf is going oh bro catch the next

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wave oh yes like you know like so that's a good idea you just gave me a really

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really good idea take this guy out to the field and like you know pick up some

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some b-roll sounds which one could use for something so yeah this is cool super

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cool And the pole has a quarter 20 on the back.

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Amazon has tons and tons and tons of lengthy poles that you can get.

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And because of the 30 meter range, you're going to be fine.

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You know what I mean? You're not going to have too many problems with that.

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So that's a really good question. Who said that?

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That was a good question. Get some stereo Foley. That is right, DJ Right On Beat.

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I've got, sorry, if you guys are wondering what the heck I'm looking at,

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I've got my buddy Mario doing our live stream about the MV88+, the Move Mic right now.

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And so I'm trying to be his moderator while being on this stream.

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That's what we do. And he can. We can multitask. Okay? But sorry.

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You guys don't have a paw yet?

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We don't have a Paul.

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For a good price.

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I mean, normally Mario and I are tag team in this, but I was like,

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I got to go beyond the flow. So you got this? Cool.

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And then, yeah, realized that I have YouTube credentials. Look at him.

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Hey, Mario. He looks fancy right now.

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He's very fancy. We wore our big girl and big boy clothes today. Yeah, we're very fancy.

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Very fancy. I get to see Mario at NAB. LD don't want to be our friend Paul and Mary Lou.

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I know. I know. I'm the worst.

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We was going to come and raid you so listen

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folks i'd like to you know just

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circle back and i'm curious john

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because you had a bunch of questions and one more which i'll get to in just

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a second because i like to know what type of people find this interesting see

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i know my point is i am forever on the road and this is perfect for me because

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it's so easy it's so packable And it could do myriad sorts of things.

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I can use it plugged in to handle Zoom meetings in the telly.

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I can connect it to my cameras and, you know, various things like that.

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I can connect it to my PTZ cameras because they do support USB audio.

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Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff I can do with this. So I'm curious,

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John, what do you see as your use case?

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Now, John's question is, if I connect it via Bluetooth for the phone,

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can only yes, yes. can only the motive audio video apps can only

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work all right so let me explain this to john your

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question is convoluted and i can't read it but i know what you mean because i

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know you um sorry john

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i love you the wait i can't you know why i have here's why i'm having a hard

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time reading it ld because when i hear john's voice in my head it stops to laugh

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every five seconds oh like the actual john so that's okay because It's always laughing.

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The reason why you're going to use the Motive app is this type of Bluetooth

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is Shure's custom Bluetooth.

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Right?

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And that's in order to make it have access to all of the beauty that is in the microphone.

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Like to get access to its custom DSPs, you need to use the Motive video app.

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now this this is hard for people to understand because that's not sure it's

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doing and i heard a whole bunch of misrepresentation the last time wireless

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mics came out that people's like oh they should just make it work with instagram

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well they did you just have to use this

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under bluetooth you can't do that because

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apple doesn't give you that access to put your own custom bluetooth and then

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connect it to other apps the only bluetooth that can connect to other apps is

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the native core audio bluetooth which is built in by apple but that's the same

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thing on android 2 probably i don't know don't start me lying i don't use those green robots

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is it different no don't you have one i

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Do but i actually i don't anymore so i have it for testing purposes only but

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i am an all iphone gal dual sims.

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Oh there you go dual sims that's life that You know how many SIMs I have in

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my phone? Actually, I think I have like six.

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You can have. You can have up to six, I think. Yeah. You're so fancy.

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Because I have AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon because when I do events, I need connection.

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And then when I travel to Japan, I can just flip on the Japan SIM,

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like whatever, and I use two different Japan SIMs. One for the plug and one for the load.

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So fancy.

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Yeah. So fancy. um follow up in the case i want to john said for my case is

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to use the mic for live stream as well from my phone with tiktok yes so then

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you need to use the uh the move r to connect and then you got

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you got full access to everything which is again it's just it's just glorious it is it

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Is it's really good the kit is 449 and the mic itself is 299 so in case anybody's

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wondering what the financial investment looks like, I would go for that $449

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just so you have the whole workflow covered.

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And you can add the MoveMic lavaliers down the road or what have you.

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So you have a really flexible workflow. Just saying.

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Yeah, you know, it's funny. You can feel it in the build quality.

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You can feel it in everything. And I don't know why.

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One of my favorite things about this and the previous version is the chef roll.

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I just feel like I'm going to pull out my...

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You love that.

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It's my toolkit. Let me get in there. When you watch movies and the guy's going

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to crack the safe, he pulls out a chef roll.

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If you go watch a sushi restaurant, he pulls out a chef roll.

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So having all your mic kit in the in the Chevrolet, it's just it's just kind of cool.

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It's super cool. It makes it easy to move around with and travel.

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And the thing that wireless brings to the table, that's, again,

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different from corded mics is people always come up with very interesting places

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to stick a wireless microphone.

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So I'm not advocating prank channels. I think they're kind of lame,

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but you can like stick this in a plant somewhere or stick it in the bush somewhere.

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You can do all sort of myriad things.

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That's an interesting suggestion.

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If you're into that kind of stuff, you can. Yeah, we were going to try that.

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So were you able to see if you can get two 88 pluses in the one receiver?

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I did and you cannot.

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You cannot. You can only do one one okay two

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Move mike lavaliers one mv88 plus move mike.

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And would that probably be because of the channels that it has because of the

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raw side right it had multiple channels in that case and so therefore it would

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eat all the channels that's

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My thought but i have not confirmed that with the inner.

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Geniuses at hql this.

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I'm going to say that even Mike, can you answer this question?

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Exactly.

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Look, look. All right. So this is a good question because I know you are far better at this than I.

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Have you tried it like coming from the soundboard or the sound puka on your

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guitar? Like, what does it sound like musically?

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Oh, I have tried it on my piano. I have not tried it on the guitar yet,

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but I've used the MV88 plus with my guitar a ton.

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I love it, especially on the piano in a bi-directional.

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So it's got the left, right. So I put it actually did three Tik TOCs that came

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before this mic was out and you can't see the mic obviously,

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but I put it on the piano in between myself and the piano.

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So it was able to capture my voice and the piano and it sounded great.

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But this on in stereo mode on acoustic guitar or on piano is it's unbelievable.

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Oh, my God. People listen. I don't know if you paid attention,

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but you need to follow Laura because she shows you how to do vocal warm ups.

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And I think they serve two purposes now, especially because Lou and I are forever

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talking about people getting on to do their stuff and learning to have fun with

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their conversations and learning to maintain a level of professionalism,

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but not take themselves super seriously.

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So if you do the vocal warmups, you already shook that serious cone out of your

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head because it's impossible.

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I can't every time I try I just start laughing and my cheeks get tight and I

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can't only trill if I'm relaxed I can just trill all day but once I start laughing

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I can't do it anymore it's just absolutely trash yes and so you showed the straw

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trick and I was like I should just do that to irritate my mom and sisters I

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Mean it's yes exactly because it's it's.

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Called

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Oh gosh I I can't even remember. The acronym is SOVT exercises.

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And you basically trick your throat into relaxing so that you can still phonate

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and use your voice without damaging it.

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So, you sing through a straw. Now, all I had was a boba straw.

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And one of the people commented, like, I wouldn't recommend using that.

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And she was right. But it was all I had in the car. And I was sitting there

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waiting for the train to come. And I was bored.

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And what do you do? What else do you do when you're sitting in your car bored? You make a TikTok.

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People so why do people always feel the need to correct something i

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Mean it wasn't like she was saying you're a hack but she was just like yeah

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i recommend a small and she's right because you want to you want to have just

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enough airflow so that you're not tightening and the boba is too much airflow

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but it got the point across.

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So i mean like you've been in the in the grocery store and seen somebody getting

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a cabbage you're like no i don't get that cabbage get this cabbage you ever

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just roll up on people to do that no so why do you do it on the internet no

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Oh you do not you.

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Were about to order a burger with blue cheese how dare you

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don't do that you should just get it with america because america

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like come on people just like i don't know

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maybe it's just the way you see it maybe yeah i've definitely had okay so you

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know me i can't help but try to try to help people with their japanese pronunciation

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and so in the nicest way possible somebody was doing a video and they I said

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something that was in Japanese that wasn't correct.

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And I said, oh, this is a really, really good video, by the way.

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Um, Kyoto is Kyoto, not Kyoto.

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It's Kyoto and the way you work this is, you know, you do the letters like such.

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and the person was like i'll say it however i want to say it and i was like

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okay never mind ecamp stream i did it once today just

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Come on people like.

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Oh come on she can sing it she's a singer yes that's

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All i can say in japanese.

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Luis wants to know oh you know what you should do because this is how i learned

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sorry louise i'm coming this is how i learned you do

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You can do that because you know the taste of honey version.

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The taste of what? Yes. Okay. You do. I don't know what that. I do?

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Yes, you do.

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Maybe I don't recognize Doc's.

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Oh, my God. You know it. You know the taste of honey version.

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Like Honey Nut Cheerios?

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No, the group Taste of Honey.

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Oh, I don't know what that is.

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You don't remember that? The song is sukiyaki on Taste the Honey.

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And if you hear it, you go, I know this song.

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Okay. Fun with strange songs.

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The words are easier enough to learn in Japanese that it will help you learn

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in Japanese. And it's a good song to sing because you can flip in the middle

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while you're doing the show.

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Another good song is Nat King Cole's L-O-V-E Love, right? You know that song?

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Yep.

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Right? So you can do, oh, that's not right.

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So anyway, there's a Japanese version sung by Nat King Cole.

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And then you can learn both and then your Japanese would be just good. Yes, it is.

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Yes, there you go. So those two songs are easy to learn in Japanese and you

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know the English words or you can learn the English words.

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and then it'll make sense and you'll be like oh check me out so yeah yeah i

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said i was old anyway louise wants to know uh this is funny because i'm sorry

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louise does it have two capsules for stereo recording it does

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Yes.

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One here, one here. And yes, you see.

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It says right here, Laura and rock, Laura, rock.

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No, I mean, in order to be a stereo mic, it has to have two capsules.

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Everybody else is cheating.

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That's no, that's fine. It's a totally valid question. Totally valid.

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Uh oh it says reminds me of boys to me in spanish album and all that that's good this is true it's

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Something i forgot um i think somebody asked uh what was the setup for the piano

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vocal the witch polar pattern did we use for that vocal piano setup and it's mono bi-directional,

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which is other also known as figure eight or figure of eight if you're british.

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Really they say figure of eight they do yes i listen to so much british tv i

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probably just heard it and just it was in context so you just absorb it right

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it's kind of funny how you how you hear that thing and what there's also in

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the pirate ship there's pieces of eight so i guess that makes sense oh

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Yeah okay all right there you go.

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John you're just learning all the things today so i'm i'm curious to see john's

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tiktok and see what john does with it And to see if John is able not to laugh while they're doing it.

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The top, there's a wire going to the top, so there is a capsule at the top.

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Yeah, that's the cardioid.

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Yeah, so there's three capsules.

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You're correct, John. Yeah, or not dynamic. It's a condenser, but yeah.

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This might be hard to see, but I do have a very good camera over here. Focus, Daniel Seller.

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There you go. So you see that one in there, the little silver ring.

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And then on this side, you can see it better because there's the wire that shoots

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up to get to the one that's here at the top.

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You see? So, yeah, John, you are absolutely correct.

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Boom, boom, boom. And your prize is Ecamm socks. I'm joking.

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I'm joking. He's going to hold you to that.

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John Barty has so much Ecamm socks, it's not even funny already.

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Or not, he can borrow from George. George has all of the socks.

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All right, anything else we need to know cool about the 88 Plus before we, and this is just cool.

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I'm just saying, people. I mean, it really is.

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What else do they need to know? Hold on. Let me pull up my fancy one sheet about it.

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We talked about, obviously, wireless, customizable DSP, connects to cameras,

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Windows or Mac computers, and third-party mobile apps using the MoveMic receiver,

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selectable polar patterns, eight-hour battery life,

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instant pairing, and the two versions, the mic only or the mic with the receiver kit. Yeah.

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That's, oh, 100 feet range. Yes. I mean, I pushed it for the non-imperials.

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Yes. I've pushed it further than that, but, um, yeah.

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So it's, it's a tiny wonder and I love it.

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And I'm so glad it's here and that I could finally tell all of you about it.

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Cause I've, I was dying to tell all of you at creator camp, but I couldn't. So yeah.

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See, listen, all right. I want you guys to hear what she just said.

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She was dying to tell us at creator camp.

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And this is something I want you to sink in your head as you walk around the

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Internet and you look for these things.

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I'm gonna i can say this she can't that is

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the mark of a company that has been

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doing this for 99.92 years i can't wait till the middle of next month the 25th

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when i can say it's actually 100 years old um that was seven months ago there's

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no rushing a product to get it out because the other

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competitor is rushing to get it out they don't care but

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they don't care is they've been doing it so long you don't

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have to it's like how back in the day

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the lakers could lose all season and turn it on

::

just before the playoffs and guarantee getting the playoffs and just

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get another championship like they were so good at it it was

::

kind of crazy you'd be like oh they suck they're not going they're not going about december

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they're like and then come january you're like oh

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my god they're going back in again and then next thing you know kobe

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is snipping nets like they were very good at it so when

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you are at the top you don't have to chase the

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dragon if you will and you can

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tell that because of the thought that's put into the product and the build quality

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that's put into the product and how long it is now does that come with something

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yes it's definitely going to always be more because it's built to be more but

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i have short products that are older than me

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Nothing older than paul but i have short products that are older than me and

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my sm58 is from 1982 and it still works i don't know what kind of math that

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is my brain don't work that fast but it's old as dirt and it still works the

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only thing i've ever changed on it is the crowd.

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You like unscrew it, screw on the new one, keep going.

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We do sell those if anybody has a dented windscreen. But fun fact,

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the windscreen is meant to be used as a crumple zone for your SM58 so that it

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doesn't damage the capsule. That's why it has all those dents.

::

That's crazy. That's crazy. So one last question. Any surprises for NAB?

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Yeah, I'm going to be there.

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Surprise! We are always working on new and innovative things. I like this line.

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I think we have to use that. Luis, write that down. so that we can use it.

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Hey, you're getting into my territory, Jim. Jim said, is there a dead cat or

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acoustic foam pieces and colors for this mic?

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Oh. There is a dead cat available for the MV88 Plus that fits the mic. That's good.

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Jim is here, so the windy, it's windy. The last couple of days have been crazy.

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That means that you're going to have to pack up the hubby and the kids and just come on out.

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I'm here for it.

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Some SPF 70 and then I can get you gigs.

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No doubt. I went to St. Thomas with my husband for, he had a work trip to St.

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Thomas. I was like, sure, you know, let's.

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Oh, that's why you were at the beach last week?

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Yeah.

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Oh, that was super funny. Oh, see, you could have competed then because I thought

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you were like at East Coast Beach and I was like, oh, you want to play beach? I'll show you beach.

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But if you're at St. Thomas, you would have been able to keep up.

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I would have, but I fried myself. I fried myself right here and right here. That, that.

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I did pretty well burn.

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Is the worst. It, it stings.

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Like it was not cute. It was not cute.

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I do it a lot. Cause I forget my head or I forget my speed. If,

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and it just burns the head and it's the worst.

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Yes. Yeah. You gotta be.

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Gang. You know what it is. Always. Sure. It comes through again.

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This is why we're always hanging out with sure. As a matter of fact,

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if you are going to be in the city of wind on the end of March.

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Yeah.

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First couple of days of April, we're going to be at Podcast Movement Evolutions.

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So you can come and see myself and Katie and Clint. Clint.

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That's a new one. They're separate.

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They're separate. It's Ken and Glenn and Caleb. And me. I said LD first.

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Oh, you did?

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You were first. Yes. It's your home office town. You get the props, man.

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Yeah, but I don't live there.

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We're just visitors. We're just visitors. So if you want to come to Podcast

::

Movement Evo, you can come hang out with us.

::

There'll be an Ecamm and Shore collaboration happening. And we're going to have

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a lot of fun and give you an opportunity to get your podcasting chops in.

::

So if you're in the Chicago area or you like Italian beef sandwiches or what's that name? Portellos.

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Portellos. Or deep dish, which...

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Nope. I'm from New York. That is swearing. That is absolutely swear on my show.

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I didn't say they should eat it. I said, if you like it, then you should come there.

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Sorry, Chicago people. No, no, no, no, no.

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No, but if you missed out on Podfest and you missed out on those pods at Podfest,

::

you can come to Podcast Evolutions.

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And I'm just saying there might be pods there. I'm just saying.

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Come and hang out. It's going to be really good. So that's going to be in the

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Chicago area. So if you're a Midwesterner, come through, Andy,

::

just get some wind and let's know.

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Other than that, there's been another issue of the flow. And if you want to

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learn more or you just want to talk to us or you just want to subscribe,

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do all those cool things, go to flow.ecam.com.

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That's F-L-O-W dot ecam.com. And

::

this particular episode was absolutely enjoyed with the hands of Shure.

::

So we'd like to thank Shure for always coming through.

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And we have been flowing on Shure microphones almost since that one guy walked to Nazareth.

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So we love Shure products.

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And I think you will, too. It's just legendary. They just seem to work.

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And you can be Shure. Never mind. I won't do a ton. I promise.

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So go ahead and check out Shore.com for more.

::

Of course, you can always just yell at the community and be like,

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Laura, I need to know something.

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Yes, always. And somehow we'll get it to her or we'll get it to Mario or Yuri

::

and we'll get you an answer.

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So go ahead and check out Shore at Shore, S-H-U-R-E dot com.

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And you know what we say around these here parts? First of all,

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LD, thank you. Congratulations on song 43.

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Is there anything else you want them to know on how to find you?

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I saw i think louise put it in the chat yeah lauraclap.com c-l-a-p-p for lauraclap

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songs on tic-tac if you're wanting that.

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And then watch her tic-tac so you can learn how to

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phonate i can't freaking do it mary lou i hate you she's gonna do it as soon

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as we go live in like 15 minutes and she's gonna do it i can't do it oh god

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i used to do it all the time well you're all warmed

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Up you're fine.

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I can do i can't even do that now never mind anyway gang flow riders

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