Gift biz unwrapped episode 55.
Speaker:How do I stay in business?
Speaker:When everyone around me is closing.
Speaker:Hi, this is John Lee Dumas of entrepreneur on fire,
Speaker:and you're listening to gift to biz unwrapped,
Speaker:and now it's time to light it up.
Speaker:Welcome to gift biz,
Speaker:unwrapped your source for industry specific insights and advice to develop
Speaker:and grow your business.
Speaker:And now here's your host,
Speaker:Sue Monheit.
Speaker:Hi there.
Speaker:I'm Sue and welcome to the gift unwrapped podcast.
Speaker:Whether you own a brick and mortar store sell online or
Speaker:are just getting started,
Speaker:you'll discover new insight to gain traction and to grow your
Speaker:business. And today we have joining us Sharon Day.
Speaker:Sharon is the owner and head designer at express yourself gifts
Speaker:and baskets,
Speaker:and the only certified gift designer in all of Massachusetts.
Speaker:The winner of two national design awards in 2015,
Speaker:Sharon is in her 21st year.
Speaker:Get that you guys,
Speaker:21 years,
Speaker:designing corporate and personal gifts and baskets custom designs at her
Speaker:specialty. And she creates everything from small client touch gifts to
Speaker:elaborate designs,
Speaker:fit for a queen.
Speaker:I love that Sharon,
Speaker:welcome to the show.
Speaker:Hi Sue.
Speaker:Thank you for having me.
Speaker:Is there anything I should add to this intro before we
Speaker:Get started?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I just love what I do and it kind of found
Speaker:me. So I think that was pretty good.
Speaker:Okay. As our listeners know,
Speaker:We like to align the conversation around the life of a
Speaker:motivational candle.
Speaker:The light shines on you while you share all these stories
Speaker:and all these experiences of being in business for 21 years.
Speaker:Are you ready to light it up?
Speaker:I Am ready to light it off.
Speaker:All Right,
Speaker:well, let's talk about this motivational candle of yours.
Speaker:What color is it and what is your quote?
Speaker:Well, it's actually two colors which align with the colors of
Speaker:my logo,
Speaker:which I chose for a very specific reason.
Speaker:21 years ago,
Speaker:the first would be red because it's associated with energy,
Speaker:determination, passion,
Speaker:and love,
Speaker:which all describe how I feel about what I do and
Speaker:then purple because it combines the stability of blue and the
Speaker:energy and red,
Speaker:and it's associated with luxury,
Speaker:dignity, creativity,
Speaker:mystery, and magic.
Speaker:And that is a powerful combination for me.
Speaker:Love it.
Speaker:Okay, Sharon.
Speaker:So what I want to do now is here.
Speaker:I want to,
Speaker:I want to take you back 21 years and hear the
Speaker:story about how you got this idea for your business way
Speaker:in the beginning.
Speaker:Well, I've always been creative,
Speaker:so that was,
Speaker:I guess,
Speaker:the start of it.
Speaker:But after spending 20 years as an actress and opera singer,
Speaker:I transitioned into marketing and public relations behind the scenes theater
Speaker:companies and realized after a few years that there's not a
Speaker:lot of money to be made in that.
Speaker:And it wasn't as creative as I felt I should be.
Speaker:So I opened my own marketing and PR business,
Speaker:which didn't last long because I've joined a networking group.
Speaker:And when I was a speaker the first time,
Speaker:a couple of months,
Speaker:and I gave a gift basket as a door prize because
Speaker:I've just always did them for family and friends.
Speaker:And it was something I enjoyed.
Speaker:And I started getting referrals,
Speaker:not for marketing plans and media buys,
Speaker:but for gift baskets.
Speaker:So I really wasn't in the gift basket business,
Speaker:but I am creative.
Speaker:So I would make these baskets for people.
Speaker:And a few months in,
Speaker:beyond that,
Speaker:I've got a lead to an order to bid on a
Speaker:job for a large Boston bank.
Speaker:So had decided,
Speaker:even though I'm not in this business,
Speaker:I'm going to bid on this because it sounds like fun.
Speaker:And I did just that.
Speaker:And I won the bid.
Speaker:So here I am with this thousand piece order from a
Speaker:large bank and I'm not in business.
Speaker:I have no vendors,
Speaker:I have no location.
Speaker:So I turned to the fellow members in my networking group.
Speaker:One of whom was a gift basket designer in a different
Speaker:chapter. And I said,
Speaker:okay, this is what has to happen.
Speaker:You need to help me put this together because I have
Speaker:this opportunity to fulfill this $30,000
Speaker:order. And I'd like to do it and see if I
Speaker:can. So she helped me and I hired members of my
Speaker:networking group to come and do production.
Speaker:One of my marketing clients loaned me his double garage and
Speaker:family room and $5,000
Speaker:to purchase product and supplies because I was not in this
Speaker:business, but I had won this bid.
Speaker:So we got the job done,
Speaker:long story short in two weeks,
Speaker:the bank picked them up.
Speaker:They were very happy.
Speaker:And when I got that check and paid all the expenses,
Speaker:I used that money to turn the voting public relations business
Speaker:into corporate gifts because I realized right away that this was
Speaker:just such a happy business to be in.
Speaker:It made people smile and,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:nobody wants to spend the money to buy advertising and media
Speaker:buys and they don't want to pay you until it works.
Speaker:And so it baskets though,
Speaker:on the other hand,
Speaker:you do them and people smile and pay you right away.
Speaker:And everybody's happy.
Speaker:So that's how I ended up with this industry finding me.
Speaker:Would you say then that really your networking group absolutely saved
Speaker:you because how would you have ever been able to do
Speaker:it without them?
Speaker:Well, Oh,
Speaker:I wouldn't have even been in this industry because it had
Speaker:not occurred to me that I could start a business as
Speaker:a gift basket designer,
Speaker:marketing and PR I knew.
Speaker:So that was a familiar ground.
Speaker:And that's what I started in originally,
Speaker:but it wasn't fun and I wasn't passionate about it.
Speaker:I was good at it,
Speaker:but not passionate about it.
Speaker:And I'm not good at lasting with things I'm not passionate
Speaker:about. So this called my,
Speaker:and I answered the call and I've never looked back.
Speaker:You had that first job and Oh my gosh,
Speaker:gift basket owners would die for a thousand dollar piece order.
Speaker:Much less at your first order.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean,
Speaker:I've never done a $30,000
Speaker:order sent in one piece and I'm not sure I'd really
Speaker:want to,
Speaker:it was a tough assignment to do $1,030
Speaker:baskets. Sure.
Speaker:So yeah,
Speaker:I feel lucky to have had the big order at the
Speaker:beginning. Right.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you just described how you got your product,
Speaker:that manpower put it all together,
Speaker:delivered it on time.
Speaker:Then you've probably had a chance to sit back and take
Speaker:a deep breath.
Speaker:Right. Probably want a massage or something.
Speaker:Well, I did my research on starting this kind of business.
Speaker:So I spent a lot of time,
Speaker:even with things like the colors that I wanted in my
Speaker:logo, as I mentioned before,
Speaker:and I decided right off the top that even though there
Speaker:were a lot of providers out there,
Speaker:nobody was my competition because we're all different mob,
Speaker:design style is different.
Speaker:The way I approach customers and relationships with those customers is
Speaker:very different.
Speaker:And back in that time in 1995,
Speaker:there really wasn't the internet to contend with.
Speaker:So most of what people consider complication was local,
Speaker:but I just felt like I didn't need to be afraid
Speaker:of them and they didn't need to fear me because there's
Speaker:plenty of room out there for everyone to work.
Speaker:So, you know,
Speaker:I felt good about the research I did when I started
Speaker:it. And I already had clients from my networking groups.
Speaker:So that just grew.
Speaker:And for years,
Speaker:this business pulled me along like I was the car and
Speaker:it was the horse.
Speaker:It took many years for me to feel like I was
Speaker:actually in control of the growth.
Speaker:Very interesting comment.
Speaker:I've never heard that before.
Speaker:Really interesting.
Speaker:Wow. Times were very different back then because the economy is
Speaker:really good.
Speaker:People will spend just crazy money because they were making crazy
Speaker:money. So I never had to really spend a lot of
Speaker:time. Like I didn't leave a print ad or any other
Speaker:kind of advertising for like the first 10 years I was
Speaker:in business and that's a luxury and I was steadily busy.
Speaker:I had plenty of work and was able to actually drop
Speaker:my marketing and PR the very first retainer client that I
Speaker:ever had just a few months after I had started.
Speaker:So I was very lucky.
Speaker:It, the timing was just good plus I'm tenacious and I'm
Speaker:never give up.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:Give biz listeners.
Speaker:One thing that Sharon said that I really want to underline
Speaker:here is that she was talking about the fact that even
Speaker:though she entered into the business and she had competitors there's
Speaker:room for everybody and there's work for everyone,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:if you're going to be professional,
Speaker:start your business on a solid foundation,
Speaker:just because there's somebody else doing a business,
Speaker:similar, what you're thinking of doing,
Speaker:don't let that stop.
Speaker:You there's always work for everybody.
Speaker:Everyone brings their personality into their business and people are going
Speaker:to gravitate to different areas.
Speaker:Like you might have different industries that you'd focus on or
Speaker:a different type of style.
Speaker:That's going to resonate with one person over another.
Speaker:So keep what Sharon said in mind.
Speaker:There's always room for everybody.
Speaker:You have to work at it.
Speaker:No doubt,
Speaker:but don't let that stop you from starting your business or
Speaker:really working hard to make your business a success.
Speaker:Would you add anything to that?
Speaker:Yeah. I mean,
Speaker:I think self-confidence in your own ability is paramount.
Speaker:If you don't have that,
Speaker:no matter what business you're starting,
Speaker:you probably won't succeed because you'll talk yourself out of it.
Speaker:One thing I've always had is just confidence in my ability
Speaker:to create beautiful things,
Speaker:whether it's a role of an opera or a gift basket,
Speaker:I just know that that it comes from within me.
Speaker:And I'm confident with that of my ability.
Speaker:So I think you have to find that confidence,
Speaker:no matter what business you're starting or you're have a harder
Speaker:time succeeding.
Speaker:I would agree with that too.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So let's take all of that confidence and walk into a
Speaker:story where there was a challenge for you.
Speaker:Maybe your confidence dipped a little bit or something happened.
Speaker:That was a little bit of a struggle that you could
Speaker:share with all of us and how you overcame a problem.
Speaker:Yeah, I can actually,
Speaker:yeah, I've got a couple and they sort of go hand
Speaker:in hand on,
Speaker:because as I mentioned the first six years or so that
Speaker:I was in business,
Speaker:everything was just up the Hill and I was just trying
Speaker:to keep up.
Speaker:And then nine 11 happened and being in Massachusetts,
Speaker:so many people were impacted during that time with loved ones
Speaker:that got lost on the planes and in the building.
Speaker:And I can remember that my business actually surged just after
Speaker:nine 11 and I felt really kind of guilty about that,
Speaker:but there were just so many sympathy baskets that I got
Speaker:called to do.
Speaker:The difficulty with that emotionally was that people would tell me
Speaker:the stories.
Speaker:So I became involved intimately with these people's lives and the
Speaker:people who knew and loved them.
Speaker:So I can just remember taking a basket to go deliver
Speaker:it and walking up to the door and I'd just be
Speaker:a puddle of tears.
Speaker:It was the hardest couple of months I have had personally
Speaker:in this business.
Speaker:So that was more a difficulty on the personal side of
Speaker:having to Nash,
Speaker:being able to make money off of a tragedy,
Speaker:which I've just felt as still feel guilty about it,
Speaker:but people wanted to show their care and their love and
Speaker:their sympathy.
Speaker:And so I put everything I had into those baskets to
Speaker:make them as personal and comforting as I possibly could.
Speaker:And what led from was that everything changed in business after
Speaker:nine 11,
Speaker:many of my clients,
Speaker:they had a budget.
Speaker:They no longer had it at all or their budgets were
Speaker:drastically reduced.
Speaker:So at the same time I was opening my first shop
Speaker:outside of my home,
Speaker:I was faced with some of the larger clients.
Speaker:I had either not being able to stay with me because
Speaker:they weren't buying gifts and luxuries anymore,
Speaker:or they had drastically reduced their budgets.
Speaker:So I had to get really creative.
Speaker:And again,
Speaker:this is the difficult part was how do I stay in
Speaker:business? When everyone around me is closing and I had many
Speaker:good friends in this industry,
Speaker:in this new England area and all of them are gone
Speaker:now. And I'm the only one of that group that is
Speaker:left. And I've since made new friends in the business here
Speaker:and other people have opened to replace them.
Speaker:But I did have to get creative to keep my expenses
Speaker:down, to try and discover a way to make gifts that
Speaker:were affordable because in the past people would spend just like
Speaker:wildly, they had no limits,
Speaker:but all of a sudden people would have a budget of
Speaker:$25. So it's a whole new way of thinking about how
Speaker:you satisfy clients and keep them and have them come back
Speaker:to you.
Speaker:And that was tough.
Speaker:Very tough.
Speaker:I want to say two things here.
Speaker:You talk about feeling guilty about collecting money and running your
Speaker:business and having quite a bit of business during a very
Speaker:challenging time.
Speaker:But thank God you were there because you were offering comfort
Speaker:for so many people because people wanted to do something for
Speaker:those who were suffering.
Speaker:And I think we were all suffering in America during nine
Speaker:11, but for those who had lost people,
Speaker:family members,
Speaker:friends, you were there providing a service that was helping people.
Speaker:And I can't help,
Speaker:but think that when you were delivering those baskets,
Speaker:it just added to everything for them to see how emotionally
Speaker:surrounded you were with what you were doing.
Speaker:So I think that was wonderful.
Speaker:It had to be just unbelievably heart-wrenching as you say It
Speaker:was, and I've tried to rationalize it and I've come to
Speaker:terms with it at this point.
Speaker:I really,
Speaker:for a while,
Speaker:I was like,
Speaker:I must be just awful to financially benefit from this because
Speaker:it just is,
Speaker:it's a hard thing to do,
Speaker:but I was providing that comfort in a service that they
Speaker:couldn't get otherwise.
Speaker:So, you know,
Speaker:I've made peace with it,
Speaker:Right? And the other thing that I want to bring up
Speaker:here in no way to diminish that,
Speaker:because that's really a powerful thing is that you saw that
Speaker:the world had changed and you didn't continue doing the same
Speaker:things that you had already done.
Speaker:You relooked at the business and adjusted your products.
Speaker:As you're talking about lower priced products to suit the new
Speaker:way people were doing business.
Speaker:I remember during that time,
Speaker:myself, people,
Speaker:businesses didn't even want to send gifts.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I did a lot.
Speaker:I used to do a lot with banks.
Speaker:They didn't even want to send because it just didn't look
Speaker:right. If it didn't send the right message at that time.
Speaker:And so what you were doing was adjusting to fit the
Speaker:new state of reality a few.
Speaker:Well, Yep.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:that was another growth point for me because I discovered how
Speaker:much I truly love small gifts because there's a place for
Speaker:them. There's a market for them.
Speaker:That's underserved.
Speaker:And probably always has been,
Speaker:especially in good economic times.
Speaker:Nobody would even talk to you if you didn't want to
Speaker:drop a hundred bucks.
Speaker:So I truly found that they're fun to do,
Speaker:and I love them.
Speaker:So I've now created even smaller gifts.
Speaker:Well, let's,
Speaker:let's talk about this.
Speaker:Let's back it up because I'm sure many of our listeners
Speaker:don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker:Let's go back and let's talk about what specifically you're doing
Speaker:with these smaller gifts.
Speaker:Well, in about 2014,
Speaker:I noticed a need within the real estate industry,
Speaker:which was coming back from a really disastrous few years.
Speaker:And people were starting to ask for small little tokens to
Speaker:take out and stay front of mind with their clients and
Speaker:happened to have a very deep relationship in real estate that
Speaker:I had built over many years.
Speaker:So people would come to me and ask me about what
Speaker:do you have?
Speaker:That's like three or $4 that I could take out with
Speaker:my card.
Speaker:So I saw the need.
Speaker:And since I loved the little gifts,
Speaker:I figured,
Speaker:how can I do this in action,
Speaker:make money because you can't make money.
Speaker:If you're doing one or two,
Speaker:$2 gifts,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:face it,
Speaker:you got to make money in this industry.
Speaker:I came up with the idea of putting a club together,
Speaker:a pop by gift of the month club,
Speaker:or as industries outside of real estate would call it a
Speaker:client touch gift or a small way to stay in front
Speaker:of your clients on a monthly basis.
Speaker:So I just asked around in the real estate sphere that
Speaker:I'm part of said,
Speaker:would you want to join this club for free?
Speaker:It's not going to cost anything.
Speaker:And you only need to make a commitment of 10 gifts
Speaker:a month at $5 or under.
Speaker:So your maximum expenditure for marketing in a month to the
Speaker:pot bike would be $50.
Speaker:And I've got like such a great response that I've actually
Speaker:had to curtail adding new people to the club because not
Speaker:only did people sign up like crazy 75 within like the
Speaker:first month committing to 10 a piece,
Speaker:but they can always up their order.
Speaker:That was always something I wanted them to be able to
Speaker:do is order more.
Speaker:And so now it has expanded out beyond real estate,
Speaker:into other industries as well.
Speaker:And some of them order up to a hundred every single
Speaker:month. So that's why I had to stop adding people to
Speaker:the club at this point,
Speaker:because honestly,
Speaker:if I wanted to make bliss of bulk company all on
Speaker:its own,
Speaker:I could,
Speaker:but I like the balance of the small groups and the
Speaker:big showy fabulous skips get for a queen or King.
Speaker:Sure. I mean,
Speaker:the thing that's so great about your club is number one,
Speaker:by being a club,
Speaker:I think people are feeling committed,
Speaker:right? Do they have to sign for a certain duration?
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:You have to give me a credit card that I keep
Speaker:on file.
Speaker:So I bill them monthly because the thing is,
Speaker:you don't want to have a lot of extra time taken
Speaker:up with either labor or things like billing.
Speaker:So they do give me a credit card.
Speaker:I do it annually.
Speaker:So they commit to a year I'm not hard and fast.
Speaker:If somebody is having a tough time,
Speaker:like one of my clients this past month called and said,
Speaker:can I just not get them this month?
Speaker:I'm having some challenges.
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:sure, that's fine.
Speaker:And in the beginning,
Speaker:I think I gave him an opportunity to opt out for
Speaker:four of the 12 months,
Speaker:but nobody did.
Speaker:So I just dropped that and figured out,
Speaker:handle it on a case by case basis.
Speaker:But largely nobody on a consistent basis does want them.
Speaker:So how many people are part of the club?
Speaker:Now I have 125,
Speaker:125 people are part of this club.
Speaker:And all right.
Speaker:So we'll just,
Speaker:and it's going to be at least a minimum of $50
Speaker:per month.
Speaker:We know that some of it's more,
Speaker:how awesome is that?
Speaker:Because this then is revenue that you can count on to
Speaker:pay your expenses Every single month.
Speaker:And it's another income stream because I fully believe that in
Speaker:any business you're in,
Speaker:you need to have different income streams,
Speaker:because if one of them goes,
Speaker:it's like,
Speaker:don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Speaker:That's kind of funny.
Speaker:Cause I said baskets,
Speaker:but honestly,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:you need to have different income streams because things change from
Speaker:time to time.
Speaker:And if you lose your only income stream,
Speaker:you're left holding the bag and you won't be in business.
Speaker:So I've tried to find different ways to bring in,
Speaker:come in at all levels so that I will stay in
Speaker:business no matter what happens around me.
Speaker:Absolutely. So now do you have a waiting list for people
Speaker:who want to join the club?
Speaker:I have not actively marketed it.
Speaker:So occasionally I will have someone call and ask if they
Speaker:can be a part of it.
Speaker:And usually I'd say yes,
Speaker:but it's on a onesy kind of basis.
Speaker:I haven't had a whole influx of people wanting to be
Speaker:part of it because I haven't advertised it out.
Speaker:Only advertised it originally through word of mouth,
Speaker:just from people that I knew.
Speaker:And they told people they knew.
Speaker:And that's how I ended up with the first 75 people
Speaker:in the club that was in 2014.
Speaker:So in two years I've added another 50 people to it
Speaker:because I'm able to better handle them now that I'm in
Speaker:a routine of doing them because they come every single month.
Speaker:Sure. Just the concept of having that stable business coming in
Speaker:month in and month out and certainly 125 customers are not
Speaker:all going to drop out at one time.
Speaker:So if for some reason something happened and you started seeing
Speaker:a trend of people backing off,
Speaker:you could open the club up again and start promoting it.
Speaker:Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker:absolutely. And if I wasn't space challenged in my current location,
Speaker:I could just have this become bigger,
Speaker:but I'm in an 800 square foot shop,
Speaker:so it's not giant.
Speaker:And to have people coming in,
Speaker:working here would be very cramped.
Speaker:So at some point,
Speaker:if I find a different situation,
Speaker:I can have a set of people who just do pop.
Speaker:I get score me if space is available and then I
Speaker:can expand it.
Speaker:And who knows maybe one day I will start it as
Speaker:its own company.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:You never know,
Speaker:keep your options open.
Speaker:Right. So tell me real quick on the other end.
Speaker:So the larger basket,
Speaker:what types of things do you do to promote that side
Speaker:of the business?
Speaker:Again, almost a hundred percent of my promotion at this point
Speaker:is word of mouth or through MailChimp,
Speaker:kind of like people who sign up on my email list
Speaker:or my Facebook.
Speaker:I get a lot of business from my Facebook business page.
Speaker:After 21 years,
Speaker:I don't look to find that many new customers because I've
Speaker:been able to manage,
Speaker:to retain the ones that are add.
Speaker:And the word of mouth gets me all the new clients
Speaker:I can really handle.
Speaker:That's fabulous.
Speaker:And you know,
Speaker:we always talk in marketing that the best prospects are your
Speaker:current customers.
Speaker:So, and as long as you are servicing them,
Speaker:providing value continually,
Speaker:freshing it up with probably new products in the baskets or,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:just keeping things current.
Speaker:You can retain that business for a long,
Speaker:long time.
Speaker:Yeah. And since I do all custom work,
Speaker:nothing is ever the same.
Speaker:Like no one's ever going to afford her to baskets for
Speaker:me three months apart or three years apart and get the
Speaker:same basket.
Speaker:They got four that's never going to happen.
Speaker:So at Quinn's my customers and ask them questions about the
Speaker:recipient so that every single gift is unique.
Speaker:So is that how you make your customers feel valuable and
Speaker:important? Because everything they're giving is really unique.
Speaker:One of a kind It is.
Speaker:And, and so often I get my customers call me and
Speaker:they will say stuff like,
Speaker:how did you know they like that?
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:I just asked you questions.
Speaker:And I kind of get a picture in my head and
Speaker:a feeling about it and I'd go from there.
Speaker:And sometimes I hit it out of the park and,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:get something they didn't even know.
Speaker:I would put in a basket that the recipient was going
Speaker:to love,
Speaker:but I try to make it very personal.
Speaker:And, and I've built really strong relationships with my customers throughout
Speaker:the years.
Speaker:I don't really have a lot of customers that just buy
Speaker:a basket.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:they don't bind them online for me,
Speaker:generally, most of my customers are in the new England area
Speaker:and they call me or email me or text me.
Speaker:And we have that kind of a relationship where we know
Speaker:each other pretty well at this point.
Speaker:One-on-one relationships.
Speaker:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker:They know you and that's probably how you keep business so
Speaker:often because you know,
Speaker:why would anybody go to anybody else?
Speaker:They know you,
Speaker:they feel good about what you're doing.
Speaker:It would almost like be cheating on you.
Speaker:Well, and I know them so well now that I even
Speaker:know their habits,
Speaker:like there's one customer I have.
Speaker:And I know she'll forget to call me when she does
Speaker:a trade show.
Speaker:So when I know the trade shows coming up,
Speaker:I call her and go,
Speaker:Hey, do you want a basket for that chain show?
Speaker:And she's like,
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:thank you so much for calling because I would have totally
Speaker:forgotten that.
Speaker:So, I mean,
Speaker:I've known them at this point very well.
Speaker:And I could pick up the phone and make that kind
Speaker:of call.
Speaker:And nobody feels like I'm being pushy.
Speaker:I'm trying to make a sale because I'm anything.
Speaker:But what I would call a sales person,
Speaker:I'm more on the educator and a brand to help them
Speaker:get what they need.
Speaker:And that's how I approach it.
Speaker:I'm very low threat when it comes to the phone ringing
Speaker:and I'm on the other end.
Speaker:Got it.
Speaker:Well, I'm curious,
Speaker:I know you're actively involved in your local chamber.
Speaker:What other types of groups are you involved in or how
Speaker:else are you finding people face to face?
Speaker:Well, I've been a member of BNI,
Speaker:which is business network international for 21 years.
Speaker:That was the networking group I joined for my previous business.
Speaker:And I have stuck with that because I've found that it
Speaker:has just been the only thing that really knew my business
Speaker:right away.
Speaker:In addition to chambers and local types of groups,
Speaker:that sort of stuff.
Speaker:I try to participate in as many things as I can
Speaker:so that it's belly to belly.
Speaker:You meet people,
Speaker:you see people,
Speaker:they see you.
Speaker:I always take a little gift basket.
Speaker:It's like a Palm size mini basket.
Speaker:That's wrapped exactly as it would be.
Speaker:If it were a large basket you would purchase.
Speaker:But it's that visual reminder of what I do.
Speaker:That's important to create.
Speaker:If you're not out there,
Speaker:you can send all the emails and all the newsletters you
Speaker:want to,
Speaker:but unless you're out there and people see you and see
Speaker:what you do and get to know you and get to
Speaker:know what you do.
Speaker:It's very learned to add customers nowadays,
Speaker:particularly because the onset of the internet has made it so
Speaker:convenient for people not to even think about what it is
Speaker:they're doing.
Speaker:So you really have to have that presence in front of
Speaker:your clients and in front of your potential clients in order
Speaker:to have them understand why you're different than a basket made
Speaker:a year ago and put on a website.
Speaker:Do you,
Speaker:when you go to some of these events ever raffle off
Speaker:the basket,
Speaker:or is it always just a demo and example?
Speaker:No. I donate a lot of baskets to organizations having events
Speaker:and I'm attending,
Speaker:and sometimes I'm invited to attend with cause I donate a
Speaker:basket. So that's important.
Speaker:Giving back is huge to everyone,
Speaker:I think needs to do that because it makes you feel
Speaker:good. Not because you're going to get business from it.
Speaker:Cause I rarely do get direct business from a donation,
Speaker:but makes me feel good.
Speaker:And I meet people who then become that customers.
Speaker:All right,
Speaker:Sharon, I want to move on now into the reflection section.
Speaker:This is a look at you and what has made you
Speaker:so successful all these 21 years in business.
Speaker:What is one natural trait that you use that you think
Speaker:you've had your whole life that you call upon that has
Speaker:contributed to your success?
Speaker:Well, there are two of them really.
Speaker:I think one is,
Speaker:and it's kind of a first as well as a trait
Speaker:that helps me is that whenever I'm talking to someone,
Speaker:I immediately get a picture in my head.
Speaker:Like when a client is trying to tell me about the
Speaker:event or the person getting a basket,
Speaker:I can envision it immediately in my head.
Speaker:So I see everything in pictures which helps me,
Speaker:but it's hard.
Speaker:It's a burden to bear,
Speaker:to get a picture for everything people say to you,
Speaker:but it has helped me tremendously.
Speaker:And the other I think is that I am just getting
Speaker:outside the box or the basket kind of girl.
Speaker:I am not going to be reined them to using the
Speaker:basket necessarily to create a design because I'm looked around me
Speaker:in the world and I see all these things that could
Speaker:be a great container for instance.
Speaker:So I am not a person who feels restrained by using
Speaker:the typical tools of the trade,
Speaker:if you will.
Speaker:And I think that brings an unusual element to my designs
Speaker:and it helps me to be different and to be someone
Speaker:that people can call on when they need that weird basket
Speaker:or that weird event is coming up and they have no
Speaker:idea what to do for it.
Speaker:Right. Well,
Speaker:the creativity for sure,
Speaker:because as you talk about each of your designs is totally
Speaker:unique, right?
Speaker:It would be so easy just to gravitate into one type
Speaker:of style all the time.
Speaker:But at times like just naturally,
Speaker:because you're so picture oriented in your head and look for
Speaker:all those different ideas that actually explains why you're in the
Speaker:business that you are.
Speaker:Yeah. That's why I called it a curse too,
Speaker:because it really,
Speaker:sometimes I feel like it is a curse to have that
Speaker:burden of seeing visually something.
Speaker:Cause once in a while I meet someone who also has
Speaker:that ability and our pictures are different and you know,
Speaker:that can be a problem,
Speaker:but I can always change my picture to theirs,
Speaker:but they have to be able to tell me what their
Speaker:picture is.
Speaker:Most people,
Speaker:yeah. Most people cannot do that and they don't really have
Speaker:the envision of what they want.
Speaker:But I'm pleased to say that many times I can do
Speaker:that for someone.
Speaker:And they're just learning why they're so happy because it's exactly
Speaker:what they were trying to tell me they wanted.
Speaker:So it's a good thing.
Speaker:And so rewarding when you hear that,
Speaker:when the feedback is,
Speaker:is that,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:they, that you just landed it,
Speaker:you nailed it.
Speaker:The exact thing that they,
Speaker:yeah. I love that.
Speaker:That's all the applause I need.
Speaker:Like, you know,
Speaker:I love being an actress because you get applause.
Speaker:And to me,
Speaker:that's my applause and send it straight.
Speaker:There You go.
Speaker:What tool do you use regularly?
Speaker:Now you're saying you're in an 800 square foot facility.
Speaker:You're doing hundreds and hundreds of these pop by gifts as
Speaker:well as the larger gifts.
Speaker:And so you've got to coordinate and organize between your customers
Speaker:and your Workday and you go out to meetings and all
Speaker:of that.
Speaker:How in the world,
Speaker:what are you using to keep yourself organized?
Speaker:And you always are so composed,
Speaker:how do you do this?
Speaker:Here's the thing I would absolutely be lost and dead in
Speaker:the water.
Speaker:And I don't know how I ever survived for four.
Speaker:I'm got a smart phone,
Speaker:which was not until really a few years ago,
Speaker:but I use it daily for taking orders,
Speaker:creating invoices,
Speaker:running credit cards,
Speaker:taking beautiful pictures,
Speaker:keeping my schedule.
Speaker:And I even have a program that allows people to sign
Speaker:through their gifts on my phone.
Speaker:What are you using?
Speaker:It's a Samsung galaxy four,
Speaker:actually. It's not even the most modern Samsung galaxy phone,
Speaker:but it does everything I need.
Speaker:And it keeps me from being this drifted.
Speaker:Like I have a credit card processor right on it.
Speaker:So if I'm at an event and I happen to have
Speaker:a table and I'm selling products,
Speaker:I can just make it a one step sales so that
Speaker:I'm not going back after the fact and trying to do
Speaker:invoices or do billing.
Speaker:So it has cut my time probably more than in half
Speaker:and not having to load up a laptop or take it
Speaker:with me and start it off and have to find,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:the connection and all of that.
Speaker:It's just,
Speaker:I don't know how I ran this business without a smart
Speaker:phone from the ghetto.
Speaker:Is there one particular app or something that you're using on
Speaker:that phone that you think some of us might not know
Speaker:about? That would be a good recommendation.
Speaker:Absolutely. One of them is called invoice simple.
Speaker:So it allows me to invoice someone right on the spot
Speaker:and I can actually,
Speaker:they have a,
Speaker:an air printer.
Speaker:I can just send it right to them while I'm there
Speaker:making the delivery.
Speaker:Sometimes they,
Speaker:they request that so they can pay me up front,
Speaker:which is really nice if it's a quick order or a
Speaker:quick turnaround.
Speaker:So that's been useful.
Speaker:And then Expensify is another one that I use to track
Speaker:my mileage because that's important for my CPA every year to
Speaker:know where I drove and what were my personal miles and
Speaker:my business smiles.
Speaker:So those are two of the ones that I find are
Speaker:very helpful.
Speaker:Wonderful. Thank you so much for that.
Speaker:Have you read a book lately that you think our listeners
Speaker:could find value in?
Speaker:For me,
Speaker:the most impactful book that I've read in years is one
Speaker:called simplify by Joshua Becker.
Speaker:And it's a celebration of living more and by earning less.
Speaker:So the thing is that I guess,
Speaker:because of the business I'm in,
Speaker:it requires me to have all these little parts like ribbons
Speaker:and cellos,
Speaker:red florals,
Speaker:things to theme a gift and products and like 20 categories.
Speaker:So in some sense,
Speaker:I need a place where I can get white space in
Speaker:my life.
Speaker:And so simplifying everything outside of my office has been tremendously
Speaker:helpful to me because I just needed to breathe.
Speaker:I need a space that is not cluttered with things around
Speaker:me, and I want to just enjoy my life and not
Speaker:be encumbered by the things around me.
Speaker:So that book has been very impactful and I consider myself
Speaker:a baby minimalist and it fascinates me about minimalism.
Speaker:I don't know what it is,
Speaker:but I think it just frees your soul and your heart
Speaker:and your brain to enjoy your life and not be surrounded
Speaker:by the stuff that is really just stuff.
Speaker:So if we were to go to your house and walk
Speaker:in, like,
Speaker:are all your counters clean and all your drawers organized and
Speaker:anywhere As a baby minimalist.
Speaker:So everything in baby steps,
Speaker:because being part of the baby baby boomer generation,
Speaker:we were brought up to think that you were judged,
Speaker:your success was judged by the things you owned.
Speaker:And somewhere along the way,
Speaker:I departed from the baby boomer philosophy and sorta more adopted
Speaker:the millennial philosophy of,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:you don't need to have all that stuff.
Speaker:You can live simply and just have what you use every
Speaker:day. And so my I've adopted a philosophy that if things
Speaker:are not beautiful or useful,
Speaker:they're gone,
Speaker:it's a process of partying with things that you think you
Speaker:need. And really you don't.
Speaker:So we'd have a place in our house where we put
Speaker:things and if we don't use it in a month,
Speaker:then it goes away.
Speaker:And my husband fights me on this a lot because he
Speaker:keeps everything.
Speaker:He still buys into the baby boomer way up.
Speaker:So it won't be totally decluttered because his things are there.
Speaker:And I don't feel it's my job to throw his stuff
Speaker:away. But good point personally,
Speaker:I have shed so much stuff in the last year that
Speaker:I'm already feeling lighter and brighter and full of happiness.
Speaker:So it's a process.
Speaker:Yeah. I love that.
Speaker:I've been thinking about,
Speaker:I look at my closet and I'm thinking,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:some of this just has to go cause I don't use
Speaker:it. Maybe I'm just staffed to read this book.
Speaker:That's all,
Speaker:it's a wonderful book and gift biz listeners,
Speaker:just as you're listening to the podcast today,
Speaker:Sharon's book simplify might be available on audio.
Speaker:I've teamed up with audible and you can get an audio
Speaker:book for free.
Speaker:All you need to do is go to gift biz,
Speaker:book.com and make a selection.
Speaker:And maybe it will just be simplify.
Speaker:Okay, Sharon,
Speaker:I would like to invite you now to dare to dream.
Speaker:I'd like to present you with a virtual gift.
Speaker:It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.
Speaker:This is your dream or your goal of almost unreachable Heights
Speaker:that you would wish to obtain.
Speaker:Please accept this gift and open it in our presence.
Speaker:What is inside your box?
Speaker:Wow, that's a tough one,
Speaker:but inside my gift is air and sunlight and life work
Speaker:balance because I really need to start to savor each moment
Speaker:as they happen in my life and not be just so
Speaker:into the daily rigors of running my business,
Speaker:that I'm not enjoying my life in my work.
Speaker:So this gift is fabulous because it gives me the things
Speaker:that I need to have every day to balance my life.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:that's so great because that's why we go in business in
Speaker:the beginning to be able to take command of our time
Speaker:and our life and so easily,
Speaker:we can get involved in all those little intricacies.
Speaker:Absolutely. And,
Speaker:and it just consumes you when you find,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:you look at the clock and you've worked 14 hours that
Speaker:day and you know,
Speaker:people around you,
Speaker:your family,
Speaker:your pets,
Speaker:they miss you.
Speaker:And I find myself caught in that cycle way too often.
Speaker:And the older I get,
Speaker:I try to really find time to just decompress from the
Speaker:bills less because it will consume you if you let it
Speaker:Sure. And recognizing it as the first step to having that
Speaker:dream come true.
Speaker:Absolutely. And being a minimalist,
Speaker:minimize the business so that I can enjoy my life.
Speaker:So What would be the best way we're going to put
Speaker:on the show notes page,
Speaker:all the different contacts that you've given me already before we
Speaker:did the interview.
Speaker:But if someone is just listening right now,
Speaker:cleaning up their closet,
Speaker:maybe should need to what we had to say.
Speaker:What would be the best way for someone to get in
Speaker:touch with you if they wanted to learn more about you
Speaker:or possibly order a gift basket?
Speaker:I think that I would recommend my Facebook page at Facebook
Speaker:slash express yourself gifts because I'm on there daily,
Speaker:all of the new designs that I make get posted there
Speaker:right away.
Speaker:It's so much simpler and quick to do that daily than
Speaker:it is to put it up on a website or any
Speaker:other social media outlet.
Speaker:So Facebook for me is the best way and I'll respond
Speaker:immediately as well to people's requests.
Speaker:Super that's perfect.
Speaker:Thank you so much,
Speaker:Sharon. What great information.
Speaker:This whole idea of pop by gifts is huge,
Speaker:huge, because the way it can stabilize your business,
Speaker:all of that,
Speaker:and really that's part of having a good solid platform for
Speaker:moving forward and growing a business.
Speaker:So thank you so much for sharing in detail.
Speaker:A lot of that information and everything else you've shared.
Speaker:I just,
Speaker:I know you've brought great value to our listeners and it
Speaker:has been absolutely fabulous having you on.
Speaker:I wish you a light sunshiny eerie day and may your
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