Trust in podcasting goes beyond the host and listener to a larger
Evo Terra:overall trust in the idea of podcasting.
Evo Terra:Interestingly, podcasting enjoys a greater level of trust than other forms of media.
Evo Terra:But for how long?
Evo Terra:Hello, and welcome to another Podcast Pontifications with me, Evo Terra.
Evo Terra:Do you trust the media?
Evo Terra:And by "the media," I mean, traditional broadcast media, and
Evo Terra:by "trust," I mean, well, trust.
Evo Terra:Do you trust them to deliver accurate and relevant information to you?
Evo Terra:Now, it kind of doesn't matter what your answer is because it's quite
Evo Terra:clear that, at least in the States, trust in traditional broadcast
Evo Terra:media is nearing an all-time low.
Evo Terra:And that's a trend that has been happening since the 1970s.
Evo Terra:What about social media?
Evo Terra:Do you trust the platforms?
Evo Terra:All of which are driven by algorithms to deliver you
Evo Terra:accurate and relevant information.
Evo Terra:Once again, your personal mileage may vary greatly here, and I'm
Evo Terra:sure that you, like me, have a few trusted sources that you do follow.
Evo Terra:But collectively, we know that the social media platforms that we use every single
Evo Terra:day, they have their own interests in mind far, far above ours sometimes.
Evo Terra:Now, weirdly, podcasting doesn't follow that trend or those trends when people,
Evo Terra:again, people in the States, are surveyed or polled, they come back with rather hard
Evo Terra:to believe trust scores in podcasting.
Evo Terra:So much so that they report greater trust even in the ads and the commercials that
Evo Terra:they hear on the podcasts they listen to.
Evo Terra:And, real quickly, I'm talking about trust, not truth.
Evo Terra:Truth is a whole different topic that I've gotten into before and
Evo Terra:I may dive into later on, but this episode is all about trust and
Evo Terra:people trust podcasts, like a lot.
Evo Terra:Or better to say, the listeners, they trust the podcasts that they listen to.
Evo Terra:Much like trusted social media accounts that we follow so we can make our
Evo Terra:newsfeed and doomscrolling somewhat more palatable, listeners follow only a handful
Evo Terra:of podcasts, shows that they trust to give them, the listener, what they need.
Evo Terra:And that's precisely because there's no algorithm behind the
Evo Terra:scene deciding what episode someone should and shouldn't be exposed to.
Evo Terra:And also, because there aren't multinational media conglomerates all
Evo Terra:vying for their share of a limited set of channels, frequencies, or shelf space
Evo Terra:on a newsstand, podcasting has mostly escaped the issues of trust that plague
Evo Terra:the other forms of media at large.
Evo Terra:But that's changing, which means the high trust we've come to enjoy
Evo Terra:as podcasters might be eroding.
Evo Terra:We're already starting to see some of the problems that caused these,
Evo Terra:well, trust problems for consumers of other forms of media starting to
Evo Terra:worm their way into podcasting, both at the micro and the macro level.
Evo Terra:At the micro level, we're seeing the rise of celebrity podcasters, as well as the
Evo Terra:minting of very strong influencer-like personalities having their own podcast.
Evo Terra:And as shows like those continue to pull in fans from outside of
Evo Terra:podcasting, and yes, I will also concede that they do attract plenty
Evo Terra:of already-listening-to-podcast fans.
Evo Terra:Those shows grow large enough to attract the attention from outside media.
Evo Terra:Those shows that do really well win podcast awards, or are somehow deemed
Evo Terra:press-worthy with getting accolades for whatever reason, which then further
Evo Terra:elevates their status outside of the roughly 30% of the population who
Evo Terra:consume podcasts on a regular basis.
Evo Terra:Now, that's good for podcasting for sure, but is it good for the
Evo Terra:perception of trust in podcasting?
Evo Terra:It's benign if the podcast hosts who are at the top are also
Evo Terra:benign, but not all of them are.
Evo Terra:I mean, just take a look at any of the podcast ranker charts and you'll
Evo Terra:find plenty of shows, incredibly popular shows, that you probably
Evo Terra:disagree with strongly and would find not all that worthy of your trust.
Evo Terra:Also, we're seeing continued investment from mainstream media into podcasting
Evo Terra:with media properties launching, not just podcasts, but entire networks of podcasts
Evo Terra:that leverage the same biases and points of view in every show and episode they
Evo Terra:produce of their podcast network that they put out on their broadcast medium.
Evo Terra:Which is fine.
Evo Terra:I mean, that's them giving their fans what they want, just in a different format.
Evo Terra:And again, I will state for the record they clearly have a right to do so.
Evo Terra:And also, oftentimes, having a very strong point of view, and even some
Evo Terra:biases, makes for an excellent podcast.
Evo Terra:And then there's the investments, the billions of dollars of investments
Evo Terra:from other industries and players that keep flowing into podcasting,
Evo Terra:which consolidates voices, enables more rapid production, and also
Evo Terra:further silos the content we consume.
Evo Terra:That means a lot more opportunities to get podcasts, podcasters, if you will,
Evo Terra:and people in the business of podcasting paid, which is also a very good thing.
Evo Terra:But I do wonder about the cost to the trust podcasting has enjoyed thus far.
Evo Terra:Maybe that was just a temporary condition.
Evo Terra:I hope not.
Evo Terra:With that, I shall be back directly with yet another Podcast Pontifications.
Evo Terra:Cheers!
Evo Terra:Podcast Pontifications is written and narrated by Evo Terra.
Evo Terra:He's on a mission to make podcasting better.
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