Gift biz unwrapped episode 45 Instantly from that moment,
Speaker:I was just like,
Speaker:there was a fire inside.
Speaker:This is John Lee,
Speaker:Dumas of entrepreneur on fire,
Speaker:and you're listening to the gift of biz unwrapped.
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Speaker:Welcome to gift biz,
Speaker:unwrapped your source for industry specific insights and advice to develop
Speaker:and grow your business.
Speaker:And now here's your host,
Speaker:Sue Monheit.
Speaker:Hi there.
Speaker:I'm Sue and welcome to the gift beers,
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Speaker:whether you're Brick and mortar shop sell online or are just
Speaker:getting started.
Speaker:You'll discover new insight to gain traction and to get your
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Speaker:I am so thrilled to have joining us London.
Speaker:K London is a classically trained dancer who discovered her passion
Speaker:for crochet.
Speaker:At the age of 13,
Speaker:London received a dance scholarship to NYU and after graduation dove
Speaker:into the local street art scene,
Speaker:she began developing her signature style by crocheting on fences.
Speaker:She has adorned the windows of ABC carpet and home,
Speaker:and has recently crocheted pieces for major brands,
Speaker:including Starbucks Miller,
Speaker:light checks mix and the TBS network.
Speaker:According to Conde Nast traveler,
Speaker:London K is the one to watch and we have her
Speaker:here live talking to us today.
Speaker:Welcome lunch.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:How are you?
Speaker:I'm good.
Speaker:How are you doing today?
Speaker:I'm doing great.
Speaker:Good, Good.
Speaker:Well, just to let our listeners know,
Speaker:and some of them who may have been following me on
Speaker:scope London is the one that I introduced you all to.
Speaker:And I met when I was at the craft and hobby
Speaker:show this past January.
Speaker:So I was showing everybody,
Speaker:if you remember London,
Speaker:how beautiful your project was that you had put up there.
Speaker:And I was telling everyone how beautiful it was.
Speaker:And you said,
Speaker:Oh, thank you.
Speaker:And I turned around.
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:wait, who's there.
Speaker:It was meant to be.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:Would you like to add anything to the intro that I've
Speaker:already done before we get started?
Speaker:You said it beautifully.
Speaker:I have nothing more to add.
Speaker:Okay. Well,
Speaker:as our listeners know,
Speaker:we like to align the conversation around the life of a
Speaker:motivational candle.
Speaker:The light shines on you while you share your stories and
Speaker:experiences. So are you ready?
Speaker:I am ready to write it up.
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:You're walking into a gift shop and you come upon a
Speaker:shelf of all these motivational candles.
Speaker:What color candle would you gravitate to and what would be
Speaker:the quote on that candle?
Speaker:The color candle I would gravitate to would be like a
Speaker:nice white ivory color because I love the smell of vanilla
Speaker:candles. So it'll have to be one of those.
Speaker:And the quote on it would be trust your own perception.
Speaker:That's interesting coming from an artist.
Speaker:What does that mean?
Speaker:It is a little affirmation.
Speaker:I, you could say that I grabbed from the book artist
Speaker:way and it just always kind of helps me through times
Speaker:when I may be questioning myself or unsure of something.
Speaker:I can take a deep breath,
Speaker:tell myself,
Speaker:trust your own perception and just keep going and repeat that
Speaker:over and over again.
Speaker:And it's helped me a lot.
Speaker:So that would be my candle.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:You're making your own reality in a way.
Speaker:Got it.
Speaker:So I just recently heard about this whole concept of Yarn
Speaker:bombing. And Maybe you could explain that a little bit because
Speaker:in your bio,
Speaker:I'm not sure that everyone's getting the full flavor for what
Speaker:you're actually doing.
Speaker:Can you describe what that's all about?
Speaker:And you do call what you're doing.
Speaker:Yes. Yarn bombing is definitely something that's new.
Speaker:It's getting more and more popular.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it feels like every day,
Speaker:but it is basically where you take a piece of knit
Speaker:or crochet,
Speaker:goodness that you've made in the past.
Speaker:And you wrap it around a tree,
Speaker:a fire hydrant,
Speaker:you cover something in an outdoor space with yarn and you
Speaker:leave it there for people to simply enjoy.
Speaker:And it's a kind of unique twist on classic crochet and
Speaker:knitting. It's almost reinventing this tradition of scarves and blankets and
Speaker:things that we all love and bringing it to the new
Speaker:generation. It's so much fun and I absolutely love it.
Speaker:And it's cool to be able to put things outside simply
Speaker:to make people happy and kind of be a part of
Speaker:that whole street art scene,
Speaker:but doing it in a way that it doesn't hurt the
Speaker:environment and doing it in a way that allows me to
Speaker:do what I love most of all,
Speaker:which is crochet and just surprise people.
Speaker:Did you have this idea before you knew about yarn bombing
Speaker:or had you seen other people doing it?
Speaker:Like, how did you get started?
Speaker:You're in New York city.
Speaker:So it's not a small place,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:it's not like rural America somewhere.
Speaker:You seen people doing this already,
Speaker:or how did you actually know what to do that very
Speaker:first time,
Speaker:I really hadn't seen it around and it was about three
Speaker:and a half years ago.
Speaker:And I met an artist and she used yarn and unusual
Speaker:ways. So she would sell things to galleries with yarn and
Speaker:that I hopped on the internet right after I met her
Speaker:and just started Googling.
Speaker:And that's how I discovered yarn bombing instantly from that moment,
Speaker:I was just like,
Speaker:there was a fire inside.
Speaker:I was like,
Speaker:I'm taking a scarf,
Speaker:I'm wrapping it around a tree outside my house.
Speaker:And from that moment on,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I haven't stopped and it's not illegal to do that.
Speaker:It's not because of the fact that it's not really hurting
Speaker:anything. People can hang up signs on street poles and that's
Speaker:fine. So I do always do it in the middle of
Speaker:the day.
Speaker:I never tried to be like,
Speaker:hide what I'm doing.
Speaker:I'm always open to what I'm doing.
Speaker:So, and I try to get permission as much as possible.
Speaker:Got, and now this Has developed into a full-time business for
Speaker:you. Oh yeah.
Speaker:And I never could have expected ever in a million years.
Speaker:That's crazy.
Speaker:So talk about how that happened.
Speaker:So you were out,
Speaker:you were enjoying it,
Speaker:you did the first one right outside your house,
Speaker:and then you started doing other things all around New York.
Speaker:And then what happened?
Speaker:How did you get your first paid commission or just walk,
Speaker:walk us through how that all developed?
Speaker:Well, I had been looking for a really long time.
Speaker:I was working a full-time job nine to five for a
Speaker:big company and it was okay.
Speaker:But I knew there was more so what I did is
Speaker:I gave myself a 30 day challenge.
Speaker:I was like,
Speaker:if this is something I really love every single day for
Speaker:30 days,
Speaker:I'm just going to crochet something,
Speaker:put it outside and leave it there for people to enjoy.
Speaker:And with every piece that I put up,
Speaker:I would put a tag next to it with my website.
Speaker:And just,
Speaker:I would say within that first 30 days of me doing
Speaker:it every day,
Speaker:people started getting interested.
Speaker:My Instagram followers started going up.
Speaker:I would post photos of everything I did.
Speaker:And people started reaching out to me through my website.
Speaker:And the first thing that actually came through my site was,
Speaker:Hey, we want to do a collaboration with you for New
Speaker:York city fashion week.
Speaker:My mind was blown.
Speaker:I couldn't believe it.
Speaker:And so I knew I was onto something.
Speaker:And instead of doing it for 30 days straight,
Speaker:I did it for like 50 days straight without taking a
Speaker:break. And that got me into this groove of being very
Speaker:quick with my work.
Speaker:And I just loved every second of it.
Speaker:So that's how I got started.
Speaker:And so that was your first paid job?
Speaker:Yes, That was my first paid job.
Speaker:And I want to say ever since then,
Speaker:I've been very lucky.
Speaker:Everything that I've ever gotten has been through people reaching out
Speaker:to me through my site,
Speaker:simply because of me doing something with no intention of getting
Speaker:paid for it,
Speaker:putting it outside,
Speaker:I feel like there's some sort of like balance there.
Speaker:That's allowing me to get actually paid work from,
Speaker:work me just doing,
Speaker:because I love it so much.
Speaker:And so what do you see as your future with this?
Speaker:Where do you think you're going?
Speaker:I'm just going to keep,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:the biggest thing that surprised me with crocheting is that there's
Speaker:so many different ways that you can use it and so
Speaker:many different things that you can do with yarn.
Speaker:So I'm just continuing to see where it takes me.
Speaker:Try really hard,
Speaker:push every boundary and explore all the different kind of areas
Speaker:that open up or that I think are kind of interesting
Speaker:or unique.
Speaker:That's kind of where I'm going.
Speaker:So give biz listeners,
Speaker:if you had a chance to see on the scope,
Speaker:what you put up at the cha show,
Speaker:this was just not like a basic scarf.
Speaker:This is a whole pattern design.
Speaker:I mean the detail and the quality to what you're putting
Speaker:up is spectacular.
Speaker:Thank you,
Speaker:mermaids and whales.
Speaker:Those are my favorite things to crochet.
Speaker:So when people ask me on the subway,
Speaker:because I'll be crochet like a mad woman on the subway
Speaker:and people are like,
Speaker:what are you crocheted?
Speaker:I used to be like,
Speaker:Oh, I'm making a tomato now.
Speaker:I just am like,
Speaker:I'm making a blanket.
Speaker:People just think I'm too weird.
Speaker:If I start rattling off all these ridiculous things that I'm
Speaker:actually making.
Speaker:Have you found that there's now a community around,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:like with people in different cities or even different countries,
Speaker:I understand that it's going on in the UK as well.
Speaker:Are you having a community now of all of you who
Speaker:are doing this?
Speaker:Yeah, there's absolutely a lot of people.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:not a huge number of people that are doing it,
Speaker:but there is a group of people that are doing it
Speaker:and really Instagram and Facebook without social media.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I don't know how we would have ever connected or found
Speaker:each other without it,
Speaker:but people are doing it.
Speaker:And I love,
Speaker:love, love that more and more people are starting to yarn
Speaker:bomb because it's just really cool.
Speaker:It's really cool.
Speaker:It is really cool.
Speaker:And how long can they stay?
Speaker:My pieces stay up anywhere between a day to nine or
Speaker:10 months.
Speaker:It really just depends on if somebody takes it down.
Speaker:Got it.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:And let's talk about now because a lot of our listeners
Speaker:are people who are thinking of maybe starting some type of
Speaker:a business out of a craft that they do,
Speaker:perhaps it's jewelry that they make or they're bakers,
Speaker:and they want to start selling their product.
Speaker:What did you do to start formulating this into a more
Speaker:structured business where there was going to be money exchanging hands?
Speaker:It was a pretty natural progression,
Speaker:but I've always been very business minded.
Speaker:I started my first scarf business when I was 13 years
Speaker:old. I grew up at a dance studio and I would
Speaker:always crochet scarves for all the different girls at the studio.
Speaker:And they would pick their colors and this and that.
Speaker:I went on to buy my car with the money I
Speaker:made from crochet and scarfs.
Speaker:Then I needed a break.
Speaker:So then when this all started up,
Speaker:I was always thinking about how it could turn into more
Speaker:than just the passion behind it.
Speaker:So the website was huge.
Speaker:I used Squarespace consistently updating my website,
Speaker:having a blog on my website,
Speaker:guiding people to my website was probably the first step.
Speaker:And having that contact form in a way for people to,
Speaker:it may sound a little silly,
Speaker:but a way for people to give me money through my
Speaker:site, I've had stores up on my sites,
Speaker:selling different products like crocheted sneakers or bags.
Speaker:There's always been some way for people to give money or
Speaker:support what I'm doing.
Speaker:That's easy and accessible.
Speaker:It's so easy when we have a company and we are
Speaker:presenting a product.
Speaker:We forget sometimes that we need to walk the path from
Speaker:the consumer.
Speaker:Who's going to be interacting with us,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:do you have everything in place?
Speaker:And just as you're saying,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:how are you going to run that transaction through in a
Speaker:professional manner?
Speaker:So really good point for people who are starting out or
Speaker:anyone who has a business think about that from the customer's
Speaker:standpoint, how does it feel to be a customer of yours
Speaker:and are your processes smooth?
Speaker:Do you have everything in place that you need to be
Speaker:able to conduct a full transaction?
Speaker:Yes. And also I just remembered,
Speaker:I do think it's so important.
Speaker:Also finding that balance.
Speaker:We're making these things from scratch and the value of that.
Speaker:It's so easy to be like,
Speaker:Oh, you can buy this from me for $20.
Speaker:Great. But that was something that was handmade.
Speaker:That took a lot of time,
Speaker:like actually charging what your time is worth was a big
Speaker:obstacle as well is getting comfortable saying those numbers that maybe
Speaker:are a little higher than what my pocket book is.
Speaker:Okay. With.
Speaker:That was another big kind of like way to take the
Speaker:business to another level.
Speaker:I'm really,
Speaker:really glad you brought that up London because it's true.
Speaker:We always under estimate.
Speaker:If we've made something with our own hands,
Speaker:we underestimate the value that that has to notorious in this
Speaker:industry. Yeah.
Speaker:So how did you arrive upon your price?
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it took a really long time,
Speaker:but really it was just coming up with a good numbers,
Speaker:spreadsheet or Excel spreadsheet where now it's very formulaic.
Speaker:If somebody wants something of this size,
Speaker:I can simply plug in how big they want it.
Speaker:And I've put in all my costs,
Speaker:I put in how much I want to be paid per
Speaker:hour and how much it'll cost for the,
Speaker:like behind the scenes and figuring things out on that side
Speaker:of it.
Speaker:And then it just shoots out a number at the bottom.
Speaker:So that has made it easier for me because then also
Speaker:for your client,
Speaker:they can see this very in depth breakdown.
Speaker:So they understand why it's costing this.
Speaker:It's not just a big number that they're like,
Speaker:well, how did you come to that?
Speaker:So that's helped a lot.
Speaker:And do you put your margin then in with your production
Speaker:time? Yes.
Speaker:Got it.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Super. Okay.
Speaker:So this sounds so fun because yarn,
Speaker:as we all know,
Speaker:is beautiful,
Speaker:colorful, Creative,
Speaker:And all of that,
Speaker:but there had to be some challenges that you met up
Speaker:with along the way.
Speaker:Can you give us one story of something that happened that
Speaker:kind of caught you off guard or made you stop in
Speaker:your tracks a little bit?
Speaker:You had to rethink and figure out how to deal with
Speaker:it. Oh yeah.
Speaker:My mouth.
Speaker:Well now I'm curious just by that reaction.
Speaker:I mean everything cause you're right with yarn,
Speaker:it's so positive.
Speaker:It's happy.
Speaker:It's colorful.
Speaker:It's fun.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So I live in Bushwick,
Speaker:Brooklyn, which is a really like the cool area.
Speaker:We got a lot of street art going on,
Speaker:tons of painting,
Speaker:fun coffee shops,
Speaker:bars, the whole nine.
Speaker:It's great,
Speaker:but the neighborhood is definitely gentrifying.
Speaker:So there's a lot of different people from all different backgrounds.
Speaker:And I recently over the summer,
Speaker:so, well now it's not so recently,
Speaker:but in August of 2015,
Speaker:a gentleman purchased an empty lot and he was going to
Speaker:have a flea market there for people to sell their goods
Speaker:and all sorts of things.
Speaker:And he wanted more art in the space.
Speaker:So he asked me if I wanted to crochet a mural
Speaker:for him for this wall,
Speaker:I spent months,
Speaker:it was three 15 tall people.
Speaker:I did this for free simply to like have the experience
Speaker:of making something of that size and spent months making it.
Speaker:I go and install it.
Speaker:It takes days.
Speaker:I like it.
Speaker:It's not my favorite piece,
Speaker:but I really like it a few months later,
Speaker:the neighbor to this lot is not okay with it.
Speaker:And apparently the gentleman who's flea market is,
Speaker:did not ask the correct permission to get my art put
Speaker:there. And it turns into a huge issue.
Speaker:There were protests in front of my mural.
Speaker:There were news stories written about it and I was kind
Speaker:of caught in the middle,
Speaker:but it was the first time that I ever really realized
Speaker:how much my art or art in general really can affect
Speaker:the community and how important it is to have a deeper
Speaker:meaning to everything you do and do more research with everything
Speaker:you do,
Speaker:because you never know how it's going to affect people.
Speaker:And it was a huge to do for about a month.
Speaker:But now that it's all passed,
Speaker:I've learned a lot,
Speaker:but I never thought a little bit of yarn could get
Speaker:caught in the middle of such a big,
Speaker:hot topic.
Speaker:Wow. That is a crazy story.
Speaker:So you're saying it took a few months for everything to
Speaker:wind down and get back to normal.
Speaker:What did you have to do?
Speaker:Or how did the whole thing ended up resolving itself?
Speaker:Did you just take it down or what happened?
Speaker:I did take it down and that helped,
Speaker:but I think the biggest thing was the people on the
Speaker:internet, everybody there's always something new that's going on and something
Speaker:that's catching people's eye.
Speaker:And I mean,
Speaker:it wasn't like 15 minutes of fame really,
Speaker:but I think the mass majority that people were not happy
Speaker:with it.
Speaker:There was something else that came into their spectrum and one
Speaker:day kind of it all just shifted.
Speaker:Yay. The next big thing.
Speaker:Exactly. The next thing just kind of came and we moved
Speaker:on. Yeah.
Speaker:Well, you know,
Speaker:you did say that,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:you learned a lesson in terms of doing research and all
Speaker:of that,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:sometimes, especially with you in,
Speaker:in your field as an artist,
Speaker:you, you,
Speaker:we're all gonna take chances and there will be things that
Speaker:aren't going to work out.
Speaker:Right. So what do you do?
Speaker:You work through it as best you can learn from it
Speaker:and go on.
Speaker:Definitely. What types of things do you do now?
Speaker:And I think I know already what you're going to say,
Speaker:but I'll wait for you to say it.
Speaker:What do you do now so that you are visible and
Speaker:that where you can capture business?
Speaker:I'm always continuing to do yarn bomb.
Speaker:So, I mean,
Speaker:just this week,
Speaker:I've put up two because I just love it so much.
Speaker:So that's a great way to always be putting out new
Speaker:material and connecting with people on social media.
Speaker:Also, I always carry around these little crocheted hearts that I
Speaker:make and we'll give them to people,
Speaker:any customers that I meet or meetings that I have,
Speaker:everybody will always get a handmade,
Speaker:crocheted heart with a number on it and a little card
Speaker:telling them about the project and what I do.
Speaker:I want one.
Speaker:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker:I will make sure to send one out.
Speaker:So you put up Your yarn bombs that are free.
Speaker:So that's kind of like your PR call when,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:when you put those up and then just sharing when you
Speaker:run into people,
Speaker:face-to-face with the hearts and the cards,
Speaker:just like you're saying,
Speaker:Right. It's a lot of just doing things like random acts
Speaker:of kindness.
Speaker:I'm such a big believer on the more that you give
Speaker:to the universe and the world,
Speaker:then, then you know,
Speaker:more will come back to you.
Speaker:Absolutely. And do you do anything then with some of these
Speaker:big names that you were talking about before,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:Starbucks, Miller light,
Speaker:do you do anything to try and spread the word?
Speaker:They may have some context too,
Speaker:for you in terms of referrals.
Speaker:Yeah. It's,
Speaker:I'm lucky with the crochet niche.
Speaker:And I think a lot of people in the gifting world,
Speaker:we all have such a great opportunity because we have a
Speaker:specific thing that we do with that comes pressed.
Speaker:So because there's this first ever crocheted billboard in times square
Speaker:for Miller light,
Speaker:that's going to catch on through the media and then other
Speaker:companies will see it and then come back to me to
Speaker:do more work.
Speaker:Got it.
Speaker:Let's talk just a little bit about Facebook and Instagram,
Speaker:cause you've mentioned both of those and that you're using both
Speaker:of those platforms for exposure.
Speaker:Can you take each of those platforms and just talk a
Speaker:little bit about the type of things you posting,
Speaker:what you're seeing,
Speaker:just your experience from an advice perspective for our listener?
Speaker:Yeah. I started with Instagram because with art,
Speaker:it is,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:it could be gone tomorrow.
Speaker:So I like to take a picture to capture it.
Speaker:And I definitely think about at the beginning,
Speaker:I was trying to get followers,
Speaker:followers, followers.
Speaker:It was about gaining people to follow me using you always
Speaker:want to use the right hashtags,
Speaker:but not too many hashtags.
Speaker:So I tend to stick to two good ones on each
Speaker:post and go with it and looking up different things that
Speaker:you're interested on Instagram.
Speaker:We'll start with that one to be specific.
Speaker:So I like street art.
Speaker:I'll go through photos that have hashtag street art and look
Speaker:at files like a few photographs,
Speaker:maybe comment on one.
Speaker:That's a great way to kind of build your following is
Speaker:finding other people who are interested in what you like.
Speaker:So you're saying that by going and finding something you're interested
Speaker:in and then commenting on their photos,
Speaker:they come back,
Speaker:look at your stuff and then follow it.
Speaker:Exactly. And you don't necessarily have to follow them so that
Speaker:they follow you.
Speaker:As long as your account is a really nice looking profile.
Speaker:I am not one to post selfies.
Speaker:I don't post socializing.
Speaker:I don't post food.
Speaker:It is what on my Instagram account.
Speaker:It is totally curated to look beautiful and just have yarn
Speaker:bombs so that when people get to that account,
Speaker:they're like,
Speaker:Oh wow,
Speaker:this is really cool.
Speaker:I'm not going to get like an ultrasound on this,
Speaker:on this account.
Speaker:I can follow that for my love of art.
Speaker:Right. And you're not confusing anybody either when they get to
Speaker:your site,
Speaker:they know exactly what it's about.
Speaker:Exactly. So those would be my biggest Instagram tips.
Speaker:So you post that on Instagram whenever you have a project
Speaker:completed. Oh yeah.
Speaker:Okay. Every once in a while I'll do work in progress.
Speaker:It's pretty rare.
Speaker:I usually just like to show the finished,
Speaker:finished work.
Speaker:Okay. And then for Facebook,
Speaker:I, it's a little more personal for me,
Speaker:not in the sense that I'm posting photos of me and
Speaker:my friends.
Speaker:Just more like I like to give a little more of
Speaker:a story.
Speaker:So I was just at the event,
Speaker:the craft and hobby show,
Speaker:and you'll tag them in your Facebook post to kind of
Speaker:get their eye on it as well.
Speaker:And I give a little more background posts,
Speaker:maybe three or four photos about that.
Speaker:And hashtags,
Speaker:I don't really use on Facebook,
Speaker:but I like using it because I make a different from
Speaker:the Instagram,
Speaker:just in the sense that you can include a little more
Speaker:information. And I think it's a nice compliment to just Photos.
Speaker:Are you doing any Facebook video yet?
Speaker:No, I'm not.
Speaker:Sometimes I'll post videos on Facebook,
Speaker:but it is that new.
Speaker:It is.
Speaker:Name is new.
Speaker:Yeah. You can do video short little clips of video and
Speaker:they go directly to Facebook.
Speaker:Well, I will have to check it out.
Speaker:Yeah. That,
Speaker:that could be cool.
Speaker:Like just when you're putting something up or you're taking a
Speaker:break for a minute and show your progress or,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:who knows what,
Speaker:who knows what your artistic mind will come up with.
Speaker:So that's a great tip.
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:What I really like about what London's just been talking about
Speaker:is she has very specific reasons behind what she's doing on
Speaker:each platform you heard from her that on Instagram,
Speaker:it is very much all about the business finished product,
Speaker:very clean and beautiful and colorful,
Speaker:which is a great way for her to be attracting people
Speaker:to want to follow her on Instagram.
Speaker:And then on Facebook you heard,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:she's still doing the same thing it's for business because especially
Speaker:as you're attracting bigger names,
Speaker:you want every single picture that you put in really any
Speaker:platform to be something that would be all right for others
Speaker:to see in terms of the larger brands,
Speaker:but she takes a little bit more of a personal approach
Speaker:with it.
Speaker:So even though they're both visual platforms,
Speaker:Instagram of course being more so she's using the platforms into
Speaker:different yet comparable ways,
Speaker:I guess is the best way for me to say that,
Speaker:say what my thought is.
Speaker:Perfect. Yeah.
Speaker:That sums it up beautifully.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:We're going to move on now into our reflection section.
Speaker:This is a place where we take a look at you
Speaker:and kind of unpeel.
Speaker:What has made you successful along the way?
Speaker:What would you say is one natural trait that you've always
Speaker:had that you call upon in your current success For this
Speaker:business? That I'm in?
Speaker:The biggest thing that's helped me is how much I just
Speaker:love to crochet.
Speaker:I will crochet all day every day and it would not
Speaker:bother me like that's an ideal day.
Speaker:So having just that passion for being in this field is
Speaker:the one thing that's helped me succeed.
Speaker:So there's never been a time when you're like,
Speaker:Oh, I just want to be done with this project.
Speaker:Yeah, well,
Speaker:yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:I have had that feeling,
Speaker:but it's never been like,
Speaker:Oh, I just want to be done with this project and
Speaker:take a break from crocheting for two weeks.
Speaker:Like I just want to be done with this project so
Speaker:I can crochet something else.
Speaker:Okay. And again,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I've seen this consistency within podcasts that we've been doing is
Speaker:a lot of people are calling on things that they absolutely
Speaker:loved as children and turned them into businesses.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:there's something about that innate very innocent passion that you have
Speaker:when you're younger.
Speaker:That is interesting to look back on and I would suggest
Speaker:anybody who's listening.
Speaker:Who's thinking about starting a company because we also have people
Speaker:who, you know,
Speaker:they know they want to quit their nine to five.
Speaker:They want to start some type of a business,
Speaker:but they have absolutely no idea what it's going to be.
Speaker:What did you like to do when you were younger?
Speaker:Or what do you love to do now that you could
Speaker:just sit and do for hours and hours?
Speaker:Like London's talking about something to consider and see what it
Speaker:could turn into in terms of a business.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Back to this London,
Speaker:what tool do you use regularly to keep you productive or
Speaker:to keep balance in your life?
Speaker:I actually just a,
Speaker:this holiday season,
Speaker:my sister,
Speaker:she gave me this planner.
Speaker:It's called my shining life.
Speaker:She got me one in particular called my business's shining life.
Speaker:And we laid out.
Speaker:It just goes through.
Speaker:And has you set goals and has you kind of list
Speaker:all your achievements from the previous year and where you want
Speaker:to go this year and really get serious with the numbers
Speaker:on how you're doing in your business?
Speaker:And it took us two days of working on this,
Speaker:my shining business planner.
Speaker:It was so great.
Speaker:And I think it's really kind of like put some good
Speaker:goals in place for this next year.
Speaker:And even without that,
Speaker:I guess it would just be setting goals even this week,
Speaker:every week I have,
Speaker:post-its where I write,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:this week,
Speaker:these are my goals.
Speaker:Cause it gets easy to forget you.
Speaker:You're like,
Speaker:Oh, I'm not doing well,
Speaker:but it's like,
Speaker:Oh wait,
Speaker:you achieved something.
Speaker:So I think having those little moments of little achievements that
Speaker:have happened in your life,
Speaker:I think it's very important to be able to be aware
Speaker:of that.
Speaker:Yeah. And when you have some big,
Speaker:huge goal breaking it up into smaller goals,
Speaker:like you're saying makes it seem like it's not so insurmountable.
Speaker:Yeah. It makes you feel good too,
Speaker:when you can accomplish the little things.
Speaker:And then of course the big things are great as well.
Speaker:There's nothing Like checking off something from The list.
Speaker:That's for sure.
Speaker:Definitely. What book have you read lately that you think our
Speaker:listeners could find valuable?
Speaker:Oh, the tipping point by Malcolm Gladwell.
Speaker:I don't know if you guys have read it or not,
Speaker:but it's so great for businesses and just getting your mind
Speaker:thinking. Cause it's about how little things can make a big
Speaker:difference and how just starting small and trends can pick up
Speaker:and start to happen.
Speaker:And it was very inspiring to read and has always been
Speaker:the one book that I always go back to.
Speaker:He also writes one called David and Goliath.
Speaker:It's about how the little guy can work its way around
Speaker:the big guy and ultimately have greater success.
Speaker:So I'm all about doing things in unusual ways and not
Speaker:going about it the way that maybe your mom or dad
Speaker:did before you and both of those books are great examples
Speaker:of ways to succeed.
Speaker:I love both those books,
Speaker:so great recommendations London.
Speaker:I appreciate it.
Speaker:And give busy listeners just as you're listening to the podcast
Speaker:today, you can also listen to audio books with ease.
Speaker:I've teamed up with audible for you to be able to
Speaker:get an audio book like both of these,
Speaker:that London is suggesting and you can get them for free.
Speaker:All you need to do is go to gift biz,
Speaker:book.com and make a selection.
Speaker:That's gift biz,
Speaker:book.com. All right,
Speaker:London, we are going to wind out in our dare to
Speaker:dream question and I can not wait to hear what you
Speaker:have to say about this.
Speaker:I'd like to present you with a virtual gift.
Speaker:It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.
Speaker:This is your dream or your goal of almost unreachable Heights
Speaker:that you would wish to obtain.
Speaker:Please accept this gift and open it in our presence.
Speaker:What is inside your yarn wrap Box?
Speaker:Thank you so much for my yarn wrapped box.
Speaker:The ultimate dream for me has also I'm opening it right
Speaker:now, by the way.
Speaker:Okay, perfect.
Speaker:Just like the candle.
Speaker:I'm like always just known that when I have succeeded,
Speaker:I will be able to just sit and crochet blankets on
Speaker:the beach.
Speaker:So this goal who knows when it'll happen,
Speaker:I hope it's not tomorrow because I love what I'm doing.
Speaker:But the ultimate goal for me is just to be able
Speaker:to sit on a warm beach,
Speaker:crocheting blankets,
Speaker:then I know I've made it Go,
Speaker:Oh, I can see it.
Speaker:I can already see it happening.
Speaker:You Can already do it on vacations.
Speaker:You just can't do it forever yet.
Speaker:Right? Exactly.
Speaker:And I don't want to it's life is too fun right
Speaker:now. Wonderful.
Speaker:Love hearing that.
Speaker:And you can hear it in your voice,
Speaker:just how you talk.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it's very clear how much you love what you're doing that
Speaker:shines through for sure.
Speaker:Oh, so give biz listeners.
Speaker:I will have all of the contact information for London on
Speaker:our show notes page,
Speaker:but London,
Speaker:for those of people who are in the car or who
Speaker:may not jump over to the show notes page,
Speaker:cause they're out and about listening while they're running,
Speaker:walking their dog,
Speaker:et cetera.
Speaker:If they wanted to take a look at some of what
Speaker:you're doing,
Speaker:can you share with us your Instagram page and maybe your
Speaker:Facebook page?
Speaker:Sure. Well,
Speaker:my name is London K London,
Speaker:like the city K spelled K a Y E.
Speaker:So you can check out my website,
Speaker:London k.com
Speaker:or on Instagram.
Speaker:I'm at made by London and for Facebook I'm under London.
Speaker:K. Perfect.
Speaker:Thank you for that.
Speaker:And thank you so much London.
Speaker:You've given us really a good insight into such a fun
Speaker:and interesting creative business.
Speaker:I love how you've gotten started.
Speaker:I love where it's progressed.
Speaker:I love your enthusiasm and all that you're doing to grow
Speaker:the business.
Speaker:And I am going to watch and follow what you are
Speaker:up to.
Speaker:And thank you.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:Because really,
Speaker:if I can do it honestly,
Speaker:anyone can,
Speaker:I believe that with all my heart.
Speaker:So keep making things and then life will be beautiful.
Speaker:And I look forward to the day when I see you
Speaker:putting in yarn kind of symbolic,
Speaker:beautiful girl,
Speaker:sitting on the beach,
Speaker:just crocheting away.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:That is what we hope for your future London and may
Speaker:your candle always burn bright.
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