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Speaker:It wasn't brilliant sales,
Speaker:but it was enough to say,
Speaker:you know what?
Speaker:I think this can work.
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Speaker:Hi, there it's Sue and welcome to the gift biz unwrapped
Speaker:podcast, whether you own a brick and mortar shops sell online
Speaker:or are just getting started,
Speaker:you'll discover new insight to gain traction and to grow your
Speaker:business. And today I have the joy of introducing you to
Speaker:Bridgette Wimbush of fab scraps for GE has a fine art
Speaker:and graphic design background and has been in the advertising industry
Speaker:for over 20 years.
Speaker:Astonishingly within 12 years,
Speaker:path scraps has grown from what started off as a small
Speaker:venture in a loft by two sisters,
Speaker:into the largest craft and fabric manufacturer in Africa,
Speaker:crab scripts.
Speaker:Factory employers are predominantly from the bassoon Tal region,
Speaker:and many are single parents since 2005.
Speaker:Fab scripts has strived to transform the lives of many of
Speaker:these men and women by providing and mentoring career resilient programs
Speaker:and assisting them in growing within the company today,
Speaker:the theft scraps collection are,
Speaker:has vast and varied as the people of their rainbow nation.
Speaker:And as a result,
Speaker:the brand has become one of the most recognized in South
Speaker:Africa and across the globe.
Speaker:All my word,
Speaker:Bridgette, I am so excited to hear more.
Speaker:Welcome to the show.
Speaker:Thank you,
Speaker:Sue. It's lovely to be on the show.
Speaker:Thank very much for inviting me And I cannot believe that
Speaker:you're sitting in Africa,
Speaker:I'm sitting in Chicago and we can have this conversation.
Speaker:It's fantastic.
Speaker:Modern technology has really moved forward For sure.
Speaker:I like to start off.
Speaker:It's a little bit of a tradition here to have you
Speaker:describe yourself in the way of a motivational candle.
Speaker:So if you were to create a candle that was all
Speaker:about you,
Speaker:Bridgette, what color would it be and what would be the
Speaker:quote on your candle?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:soup, I'm sorry,
Speaker:but I really,
Speaker:really can't choose one color.
Speaker:I'm a creative and color rules.
Speaker:My life,
Speaker:our dress every day in a different color,
Speaker:because depending on what I'm going to do,
Speaker:that's gotta be more creative.
Speaker:Then I use reds and bright colors and pinks and yellows.
Speaker:And if I've got to be more serious than I tend
Speaker:to dress more in blacks and blues.
Speaker:So I'd like to say I've got a multi-colored candle.
Speaker:Is that okay?
Speaker:Okay. It's okay.
Speaker:This is all about you.
Speaker:So whatever you want is good.
Speaker:That's great.
Speaker:And you don't,
Speaker:there's two motivational factors that really do stick with me just
Speaker:about every single day of my life.
Speaker:And the one is I did not wake up today to
Speaker:be mediocre because there's no point what's the point of getting
Speaker:out of bed if you're not going to do something fabulous
Speaker:that day.
Speaker:And the second one,
Speaker:which tends to be move a family one because all of
Speaker:us kind of live by it is that failure's not an
Speaker:option. And that was when the Apollo 13 was launched.
Speaker:And Kat said to his crew,
Speaker:failure's not an option.
Speaker:And I just have lived by those two quotes is that
Speaker:I'm going to be fabulous and failure's not an option.
Speaker:And I think they go hand in hand.
Speaker:Yeah, they certainly do.
Speaker:You're going to stretch the limits by not just being mediocre
Speaker:and you're going to be successful in that stretch period.
Speaker:Nothing else to say about that.
Speaker:It's just going to be
Well, you and I met at the New York now show,
Speaker:I was actually scoping and I'm telling,
Speaker:I'll give his listeners this.
Speaker:So you kind of understand and get grounded here.
Speaker:And those of you who were viewing the scope,
Speaker:remember this,
Speaker:you're all saying,
Speaker:I want to know more about the story,
Speaker:make sure she gets on the podcast.
Speaker:And so then I rallied you up and made you commit
Speaker:to it,
Speaker:live on Paris,
Speaker:go, right?
Speaker:Yes, you did.
Speaker:So people who were not seeing that scope though,
Speaker:may not totally understand yet what fab scraps is about.
Speaker:So let's start with that.
Speaker:What is the business and what is the product that you
Speaker:offer? Okay,
Speaker:so we are creative manufacturers.
Speaker:We manufacture everything to do with Croft.
Speaker:So it goes from paper to card making to DIC APOs
Speaker:to fabric fabrics,
Speaker:quite new.
Speaker:It's only two years old.
Speaker:We do kits.
Speaker:We sell individual products.
Speaker:We've probably got over by over 3000 product lines.
Speaker:We're introduced 60 new products a month.
Speaker:So the team is constantly busy.
Speaker:There's no time with slacking off at all.
Speaker:They're constantly preparing new stuff and we work six months in
Speaker:advance. So you always gotta be ahead of the game and
Speaker:make sure that you are on top of the new and
Speaker:creative lines that are coming out.
Speaker:You got to follow trends.
Speaker:So it's a very exciting business to be in and that
Speaker:I'm loving it.
Speaker:It's stressful,
Speaker:but I'm loving it every day.
Speaker:Okay, perfect.
Speaker:So now that we've kind of grounded everybody in terms of
Speaker:what you do.
Speaker:I want to jump back now 12 years,
Speaker:how did this start?
Speaker:In the very beginning I have four children and my third
Speaker:child was when I went,
Speaker:I gave birth to my third child.
Speaker:I decided I wasn't going back to the advertising industry.
Speaker:I just wanted to spend more time at home,
Speaker:but always been a very busy person.
Speaker:And I then started working on the clients that I had
Speaker:been working on for the last 12 odd years.
Speaker:I carried on working with them.
Speaker:And then when my first child was born,
Speaker:I decided,
Speaker:hang on.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I realized that the third child,
Speaker:when you're working from home,
Speaker:you're feeding your child.
Speaker:You bothering them,
Speaker:you get disturbed quite a lot.
Speaker:I used to get paid per hour.
Speaker:And so I wasn't earning as much as I really wanted
Speaker:to earn.
Speaker:So I decided I've got to find something that can make
Speaker:me money while some also looking after children and stuff like
Speaker:that. So my sister and I,
Speaker:we used to work together and the advertising side of things.
Speaker:And we then decided that there was no one that was
Speaker:introducing or making locally made products in South Africa for the
Speaker:crafter, like beautiful papers shouldn't we try it out.
Speaker:So we decided that in our spare time in the advertising,
Speaker:we would start creating this.
Speaker:And it just took off from there.
Speaker:We started in a loft above my garage,
Speaker:just the two of us.
Speaker:And then it just grew and grew and grew.
Speaker:And eventually we hold in my mum and dad who are
Speaker:both, one's a bookkeeper,
Speaker:one's an accountant,
Speaker:which is absolutely perfect.
Speaker:And we drew them into the company and then it just
Speaker:grew from there.
Speaker:We've now got about 25 employees factory.
Speaker:We moved into a factory once the kids were at school
Speaker:and it's just grown.
Speaker:We've actually just recently moved again.
Speaker:We needed a bigger premises and it's just grown beyond our
Speaker:wildest dreams.
Speaker:It has grown,
Speaker:but it hasn't been without a stresses.
Speaker:I'm not saying that this has been a smooth ride.
Speaker:This has been a bumpy road all the time.
Speaker:Yeah. I'm so glad you say that because people can see
Speaker:the result and can hear you and hear the result.
Speaker:And it sounds like,
Speaker:Oh, well,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:they just decided to start a business and here it was,
Speaker:and now they've got 25 employees and on and on it,
Speaker:it doesn't work that way.
Speaker:It does not give us a little bit more detail.
Speaker:So you're sitting in the loft with your sister and you
Speaker:have this idea and I'm quite sure you did know how
Speaker:to make paper when you started.
Speaker:No, I would have known how to make paper because remember
Speaker:it being advertising,
Speaker:I was used to print and designing for print and designing,
Speaker:according to a brief.
Speaker:Now I didn't really know much about the craft industry,
Speaker:but as a designer,
Speaker:I can work by a brief.
Speaker:So we started investigating the scrapbooking,
Speaker:the card making that's,
Speaker:where it started was the scrapbooking.
Speaker:And it was 12 by paper.
Speaker:We had to find some acid free and lignin free paper,
Speaker:which we duly found.
Speaker:And then we started designing.
Speaker:But I mean the design,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:if I look at my first collection,
Speaker:I actually just want to die.
Speaker:It was so revolting,
Speaker:but you know,
Speaker:it seemed to sell a bit,
Speaker:but we had already jumped in.
Speaker:So now the,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:we've put the money behind it.
Speaker:So now we've got to just keep it going and learning.
Speaker:So, I mean,
Speaker:we seriously worked hard trying to make sure that we got
Speaker:the right product mix and we got the right designs going
Speaker:and created our own signature,
Speaker:which is what we needed.
Speaker:We didn't want to copy what anyone else was doing.
Speaker:We wanted to do our own signature from South Africa and
Speaker:for the South Africans.
Speaker:Cause that's where we started was for the South Africans.
Speaker:We weren't even thinking about a worldwide launch at all.
Speaker:We were just looking at South Africa at that stage.
Speaker:Two things that I want to point out that were really
Speaker:smart, that you did is number one,
Speaker:because you didn't know crafting,
Speaker:but you already had a skill.
Speaker:So gift biz listeners,
Speaker:if you are in a nine to five job,
Speaker:now you may be picking up skills along the way that
Speaker:you're going to be able to use as you grow your
Speaker:business, because you don't have to just jump ship and start
Speaker:something. You can start building it on the side as well.
Speaker:Yeah. But so you were then investigating the crafting field and
Speaker:doing a lot of research behind what you were doing.
Speaker:We're going to offer the X while styles working.
Speaker:Wow. You were working.
Speaker:Okay. And then the next thing that you did,
Speaker:which is so important is you made the leap,
Speaker:you took action.
Speaker:You put out that first collection.
Speaker:And I would say anybody who loves their first collection started
Speaker:to make,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:because you probably waited too long.
Speaker:You should like cringe a little bit.
Speaker:I cringe when I listened to my first podcast interview,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I look at old pictures of my first website.
Speaker:The point is you need to just get started.
Speaker:And that's what Bridgette is talking about here is you just
Speaker:need to take action and get started.
Speaker:Don't be paralyzed and like stuck in the mud,
Speaker:just waiting for everything to be perfect.
Speaker:You want to just get moving?
Speaker:Because the other thing you just mentioned too,
Speaker:is people were buying.
Speaker:So you saw,
Speaker:you were able to test it a little bit and see
Speaker:that you were having an audience,
Speaker:that there were people who are interested in what you're producing.
Speaker:We were so terrified to launch that first range because I
Speaker:mean, we thought it was good enough,
Speaker:but we didn't really know enough about the industry.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:as much as research that we had done,
Speaker:we didn't know enough about it,
Speaker:but there was enough sold to motivate us to bring in
Speaker:a second collection.
Speaker:It wasn't brilliant sales,
Speaker:but it was enough to say,
Speaker:you know what?
Speaker:I think this can work.
Speaker:Let's launch the second collection and we just got better and
Speaker:better. And I'd say probably the first collection that I was
Speaker:really happy with probably would have been about my 11th or
Speaker:12th collection.
Speaker:And then now all,
Speaker:yeah, all of a sudden things sort of came together for
Speaker:me. I found my signature and it's sold out.
Speaker:And that was,
Speaker:ah, that was pop the champagne.
Speaker:That was so exciting.
Speaker:What I'm saying is that was a full year of serious,
Speaker:hard slog and hard work.
Speaker:And we pack our own orders.
Speaker:This is just my sister and myself,
Speaker:you know?
Speaker:So we had worked really long hours and we had packed
Speaker:the orders.
Speaker:Eventually we got one lady in to come and help us.
Speaker:And we all packed together and we,
Speaker:and we brought in DACA.
Speaker:And so we,
Speaker:we just started growing and you start seeing what works,
Speaker:what doesn't work.
Speaker:And you try and limit your risk as much as you
Speaker:can, as you go along,
Speaker:because you don't know if it's gonna work.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I launched a collection and I don't know if it's going
Speaker:to sell or not,
Speaker:but I've got it at this stage after 12 years,
Speaker:I've got a fairly good idea of something's going to move
Speaker:or not.
Speaker:You probably a little risk a little bit more because you
Speaker:have successes behind you at this point.
Speaker:So, you know,
Speaker:yeah. If a line,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:a style,
Speaker:you want to take a risk.
Speaker:It doesn't quite work as well as some of the others.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Well, you know,
Speaker:you've learned something And that's happened.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:That's definitely happened.
Speaker:I take it every now and then I just get this
Speaker:bee in my bonnet that I want to do something totally
Speaker:different off my signature,
Speaker:everything like that.
Speaker:I don't think I've had many successes with those really risque
Speaker:ones, maybe one or two,
Speaker:but I've learned something from them.
Speaker:I've been able to draw from every collection,
Speaker:which then takes me into the following collection,
Speaker:I think,
Speaker:okay, hang on.
Speaker:Let's not do this.
Speaker:This wasn't a good seller.
Speaker:This was a good seller.
Speaker:Let's try this.
Speaker:Eventually you find your way and your risks,
Speaker:even though you're going to take a risk,
Speaker:like I'm doing one right now,
Speaker:which is quite risque,
Speaker:but I'm prepared to take it.
Speaker:But I'm taking all the things that I think worked,
Speaker:but with a slightly different twist.
Speaker:Well, and that's how you really define yourself and be different.
Speaker:I know you're like everybody else,
Speaker:what prompts people to come to you then?
Speaker:Because they know there's going to be something that's going to
Speaker:be is going to be a twist and everything that we
Speaker:do. It's not going to just be straight down the line.
Speaker:Well, what about those first 11 then you know,
Speaker:that year of experimentation that you were doing,
Speaker:what kept you driving forward?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you're seeing some sales,
Speaker:but not a whole lot yet.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you say you've really landed it maybe at about 11 or
Speaker:12. What kept you going?
Speaker:What was the motivator that just kept you producing and testing
Speaker:and producing and testing until you're ready?
Speaker:Landed it.
Speaker:Firstly, failure's not an option.
Speaker:Okay. Which has our family motto.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So that was,
Speaker:that's the first thing that got me out of bed.
Speaker:And secondly,
Speaker:I loved what I was doing.
Speaker:I loved it.
Speaker:Okay. I wasn't making any money,
Speaker:but I still loved what I was doing.
Speaker:And I just kept on thinking,
Speaker:it's I've got to get this.
Speaker:Right. It,
Speaker:it was like a challenge that I just had to get
Speaker:this. Right.
Speaker:And I wasn't like losing heaps,
Speaker:but I was losing enough to make everyone squirm,
Speaker:but I just kept on thinking I can get this right.
Speaker:I know I can.
Speaker:I know I'm a good designer and know I can get
Speaker:this right.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:there's not a formula creativity,
Speaker:isn't a formula,
Speaker:but I just,
Speaker:you that inside,
Speaker:I knew that if I worked hard enough and I drove
Speaker:it and I really put a lot more effort into the
Speaker:collections and did the research that I would be able to
Speaker:pull it off and all of a sudden,
Speaker:and I did all of a sudden,
Speaker:it just came together.
Speaker:I was elated.
Speaker:I can't tell you that feeling.
Speaker:And that feeling is what keeps you going?
Speaker:It's like these boys that take golf and they have one
Speaker:good shot.
Speaker:And that's what gets them back on the golf course is
Speaker:that, you know,
Speaker:you've got it.
Speaker:You've just got time to do it more times than not.
Speaker:Okay. Do it again.
Speaker:And you want to do it again.
Speaker:And as a creator,
Speaker:what you're creating and your patterns and your designs are all
Speaker:originating from inside.
Speaker:You it's just like all of us listeners,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:whether you're knitting or you're baking or whatever,
Speaker:to your creation there.
Speaker:So it's a way to feel highly vulnerable.
Speaker:But I love Bridgette.
Speaker:I mean your passion and your confidence that it's going to
Speaker:work out,
Speaker:we can all hear it.
Speaker:Yeah. Tell me What point then did you decide,
Speaker:okay, paper's working,
Speaker:I'm going to move on to something else I'm going to
Speaker:add to the collection.
Speaker:How did that start to happen?
Speaker:Okay, well,
Speaker:what was happening is that I realized,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:as time went on that I had to offer more than
Speaker:just paper because people were saying,
Speaker:Oh, but you know,
Speaker:I can't find card stock.
Speaker:That's going to match this.
Speaker:And I'd love to have a
that could,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:with a CD collection that I could have a little lighthouse
Speaker:and I could have a little sailing boat.
Speaker:And this is what drove us is actually people coming to
Speaker:us and saying,
Speaker:we need to be able to match a collection when we're
Speaker:putting a page together or card together,
Speaker:we need the matching stuff.
Speaker:And we thought,
Speaker:well, gee,
Speaker:why not do this?
Speaker:Most of the stuff we try and source as much as
Speaker:we can from South Africa,
Speaker:those that we can't,
Speaker:we design what we need to,
Speaker:and we get it manufactured in China,
Speaker:especially on metals.
Speaker:Cause there's no one that does metals in South Africa.
Speaker:So that's when we started launching into that.
Speaker:And I had been to China on business with my husband.
Speaker:And so I met this little when I say little girl,
Speaker:I really do mean she's little,
Speaker:she's like four foot five or something.
Speaker:She's really little.
Speaker:And I met her and she's been with us for 12
Speaker:years now.
Speaker:So she does all my quality control and she makes sure
Speaker:that everything is happening in China.
Speaker:And then,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:she made sure the shipment is perfect.
Speaker:And so she sends it through.
Speaker:So that's how we started getting into that.
Speaker:And then we realized people wanted words.
Speaker:And the words that we were getting in South Africa were
Speaker:really, they were small and it was basic.
Speaker:We just thought it could be a lot more funky and
Speaker:we could do really beautiful fonts as opposed to punched out
Speaker:fonts. We then invested in our first investment.
Speaker:This is after they live in,
Speaker:use it.
Speaker:No, it wasn't a living collection that must've been the second
Speaker:or third year we then invested.
Speaker:And that was a huge big step in a really,
Speaker:really good laser machine.
Speaker:And we started then matching our words and everything with the
Speaker:collections that we were developing,
Speaker:it kind of grew out of our customers' demands.
Speaker:When you hear it enough times do something about it.
Speaker:Otherwise someone else is gonna get it Is so great.
Speaker:You are right.
Speaker:Do it,
Speaker:do it yourself.
Speaker:Or someone else is going to do that.
Speaker:Beautiful and give biz listeners,
Speaker:I'm underlining this right now.
Speaker:Listen to your customers.
Speaker:They tell you,
Speaker:instead of you sitting behind the scenes,
Speaker:trying to think of what next,
Speaker:ask them,
Speaker:ask them exactly.
Speaker:Exactly. It makes life so much easier.
Speaker:Now it doesn't make it easier on fulfilling the requests,
Speaker:but in terms of exactly what to do,
Speaker:you're kind of creating a pre-made audience of purchasers already because
Speaker:they're telling you what they want.
Speaker:Yeah. That's exactly it.
Speaker:And when you hear it enough times,
Speaker:then you think,
Speaker:okay, let's go in small Creedman don't,
Speaker:don't go in huge Rouge and bring out a massive collection,
Speaker:starting with just a couple and then try it out.
Speaker:And if you start seeing the sales coming through there,
Speaker:then you can start driving it up.
Speaker:And then listen,
Speaker:again, I've got to do some changes now just from customer
Speaker:demand. So it changes all the time as a creative,
Speaker:you always going to have to do things that are different.
Speaker:It's not just like a standard product that you can manufacture
Speaker:and then you just tune up hundreds and thousands of it.
Speaker:Creativity is totally different.
Speaker:But to be innovative,
Speaker:you've got to be cutting edge.
Speaker:You've got to come up with different ideas,
Speaker:but all those ideas are there.
Speaker:You've just got to listen.
Speaker:So with your designs,
Speaker:do you continue reproducing some of the more popular ones or
Speaker:once they're gone,
Speaker:they're gone.
Speaker:Once they're gone,
Speaker:they're gone.
Speaker:Yeah. So you better grab it up.
Speaker:If you like something,
Speaker:you better grab it up while you can.
Speaker:This is a mistake we made when we first started Sue,
Speaker:is that what we did was because it was popular.
Speaker:We got so excited.
Speaker:It's sold out in three weeks or four weeks or whatever
Speaker:it was.
Speaker:And then we would reprint and we'd sell maybe 25% of
Speaker:it. And then we're left with the other 75%.
Speaker:So what I'm saying is,
Speaker:is that that lesson took us a long time to learn
Speaker:because I kept on reproducing because clients would come and say,
Speaker:Oh, you don't understand I'm doing this cost.
Speaker:Well, 50 people,
Speaker:and I've got to have this paper,
Speaker:so we'd go and print because we just didn't want to
Speaker:let our clients down.
Speaker:But it doesn't make sense in the end because you can't
Speaker:sell through on a second lot enough when it comes to
Speaker:printing, you can't do a minimum run because it's too expensive.
Speaker:So then you wouldn't be making money.
Speaker:So Is it because you're using the whole concept of scarcity
Speaker:as a way to drive through and sell that whole design
Speaker:line. And Since we doctored that it worked,
Speaker:It just means then that you have to continually be in
Speaker:the creative mode.
Speaker:But as creatives,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:whether you are a small creative or a big grant,
Speaker:it doesn't matter if you're a creative person,
Speaker:that's what you do all day.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I don't even have to be at work and I'm creating
Speaker:in my head.
Speaker:That's what creative people do is that we just,
Speaker:all of us just have that wonderful ability to be able
Speaker:to look at trees and look at a dam.
Speaker:All of a sudden we've created something different out of it.
Speaker:So that's the beauty of being a creative.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:my husband's a scientist,
Speaker:so he's quite envious.
Speaker:Actually. He just can't go laterally at all.
Speaker:He just doesn't think in that line,
Speaker:that way of thinking.
Speaker:And so I think,
Speaker:I think that's creatives are lucky.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:I agree with you there.
Speaker:So you have been talking so confidently about how all of
Speaker:this has grown.
Speaker:You've given us a little bit of idea of some of
Speaker:the struggles that you've had.
Speaker:And we talked right before we went live about the fact
Speaker:that you were saying to me,
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:If I had only known all these things right.
Speaker:That I wish I would've known before I got started,
Speaker:that I've learned along the way.
Speaker:Can you pick out something else that was a biggie for
Speaker:you that you could share with our listeners,
Speaker:a struggle that you had or something that you've overcome or
Speaker:some great piece of wisdom that we haven't heard from you
Speaker:yet? You don't Sue.
Speaker:As I said earlier on that,
Speaker:if I had the knowledge I had now after 12 years,
Speaker:I feel as though I've got it.
Speaker:I finally finally got it,
Speaker:but it's taken me 12 years to get it.
Speaker:Do you know?
Speaker:Because it's that whole balancing act,
Speaker:which I just didn't get in those early years.
Speaker:I really didn't.
Speaker:I'd get so excited because I'm a creative and I love
Speaker:what I've created.
Speaker:And I just want to share it with 20 million people
Speaker:except 20 million on interested.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:there's only 1 million that might be interested,
Speaker:you know?
Speaker:So I've had upheavals throughout business and I've learned because we
Speaker:produce so many products so fast,
Speaker:we've had enormous upheavals throughout.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:we halfway through your production,
Speaker:your machine crashes,
Speaker:or your staff was sick or your,
Speaker:those sort of hassles are just,
Speaker:you just want to curl up and die and think,
Speaker:how the hell am I going to get this out?
Speaker:And there's one thing that I've learned.
Speaker:And I feel quite calm when it comes to stresses now,
Speaker:whereas before I used to freak out and didn't know what
Speaker:to do,
Speaker:whereas now I sort of sit back and I think,
Speaker:okay, what solutions do we have?
Speaker:Which one's the best for the company.
Speaker:And I say that every single time,
Speaker:every time some young lady walks into my office and says,
Speaker:Oh, you're not going to believe what's just happened.
Speaker:And then she'll tell me a Dr.
Speaker:Shipment didn't go.
Speaker:Or the shipment sank,
Speaker:which we did have by the way,
Speaker:a whole ship sank.
Speaker:And I lost everything.
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:So that's just one of the things when they come in,
Speaker:right? How do we salvage?
Speaker:What is the best way that's going to minimize the cost
Speaker:of the company?
Speaker:And then we just look at the,
Speaker:okay, there's the options,
Speaker:which is the side that I didn't know about myself is
Speaker:that you consider,
Speaker:look at the problem and say,
Speaker:right, where's the solution.
Speaker:Then you pick one,
Speaker:that's going to be based for the company.
Speaker:Okay. It's going to save time.
Speaker:It's going to save money.
Speaker:You won't have made the money that you would've made.
Speaker:Had it all been perfect,
Speaker:but this is the best way to solve the situation.
Speaker:And that has been the best thing I think I've ever
Speaker:learned in the years.
Speaker:I don't know when I,
Speaker:I don't know which you,
Speaker:I learned it and straight away I don't put up with
Speaker:anymore with staff or whatever,
Speaker:because they're all creative.
Speaker:So they're all quite emotional people.
Speaker:And they'll come in and now just say right,
Speaker:come to me with solutions and then let's work out,
Speaker:which is the best one for the company.
Speaker:This is such great advice.
Speaker:Limited. It's saved my sanity.
Speaker:Better advice saved my sanity because otherwise,
Speaker:as a creative,
Speaker:I'm just too emotional.
Speaker:I want to implode.
Speaker:I've just so desperate for the stuff to get up.
Speaker:I'm just no calm down.
Speaker:And I just said,
Speaker:rat, and it really does work.
Speaker:And I think you have to just expect that everything is
Speaker:not going to go smoothly.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it's going to happen no matter what you put in place
Speaker:in terms of safety and all of that,
Speaker:it's going to happen.
Speaker:And man,
Speaker:I fear when I'm sending things over from China,
Speaker:which I also have to do.
Speaker:Cause I can't source everything in the States.
Speaker:I try to when I can,
Speaker:but you hear these stories of those containers just falling off
Speaker:into the water and it just freaks me out every time
Speaker:I hear that.
Speaker:So, and then hearing that had happened to you.
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
And I just had all these
sank, you know?
Speaker:And the worst part about it is that we had done
Speaker:pre-orders so I'd at least know what,
Speaker:more or less what was coming in.
Speaker:And so once we had reached the 50% Mark with pre-orders,
Speaker:we said,
Speaker:right, let's go for it.
Speaker:Let's pay the money.
Speaker:Let's get the shipment in and the ship sank.
Speaker:So what did you do?
Speaker:Okay. I was still at my emotional stage.
Speaker:I cried.
Speaker:Well that's allowed sometimes.
Speaker:And then you get back to work,
Speaker:right? Yes.
Speaker:So I cried and I thought,
Speaker:okay, right now,
Speaker:how are we going to solve it to this?
Speaker:Because all the clients that wanted the order,
Speaker:they placed the order because we a Cod company,
Speaker:they all paid upfront.
Speaker:So now we had to reimburse them all their money,
Speaker:which was seriously,
Speaker:seriously tough on my cashflow.
Speaker:So I reimbursed the money.
Speaker:I did the right thing,
Speaker:reimbursed the money and say,
Speaker:right, the next shipment is going to be in eight weeks
Speaker:time when the ship docks real,
Speaker:then put out the invoice.
Speaker:So we kind of learned that one the hard way,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:you don't want to take the money upfront and then you've
Speaker:spent the money.
Speaker:It misses with your cashflow rather just wait until you're sure
Speaker:that everything's okay and then send out the invoices and get
Speaker:them to pay for it.
Speaker:So it just means that you've just got to stretch your
Speaker:money a little bit further,
Speaker:But you did the right thing by doing right by the
Speaker:customer. Yes,
Speaker:absolutely. Probably didn't lose anybody because people,
Speaker:even though they might not like it,
Speaker:people understand that things happen too.
Speaker:And by you doing what the,
Speaker:in the best interest in your restaurant,
Speaker:They appreciate that.
Speaker:I can tell you now the customer,
Speaker:we try our hardest to really zoom in on the customer
Speaker:and fulfill their,
Speaker:every desire.
Speaker:If they need something really urgently,
Speaker:I'll tell you the factory stuff,
Speaker:they will break their,
Speaker:and we say,
Speaker:listen, this is Andrea.
Speaker:That's been with us for 12 years.
Speaker:She needs this.
Speaker:She's got a class tomorrow and she has to have this.
Speaker:Get it sit overnight tonight.
Speaker:And I'll tell you,
Speaker:now they'll stop at nothing.
Speaker:Some of my staff,
Speaker:I mean the one time we had a massive shipment that
Speaker:was going out and the electricity,
Speaker:we lost the electricity,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:we are going to power shortages here.
Speaker:And so they just shut down the electricity.
Speaker:And I just sat down in the heat,
Speaker:but I just burst into tears.
Speaker:I just thought,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:we've worked so hard to the shipment and now you're not
Speaker:going to meet the deadline anyway.
Speaker:So then I,
Speaker:CT, everybody looked,
Speaker:let's pack up.
Speaker:Let's go home.
Speaker:We'll deal with this tomorrow and make a decision as to
Speaker:what we're going to do tomorrow.
Speaker:The next day walked into the office and I couldn't believe
Speaker:it. All the lights were on.
Speaker:All the staff were there and I walked in.
Speaker:I said,
Speaker:well, what's going on here?
Speaker:And they said,
Speaker:the security guard had phoned them at 11 o'clock and said,
Speaker:the lights were back on.
Speaker:And all the staff came back and they cut the rest
Speaker:of the stock and they had the shipment ready.
Speaker:I promise you,
Speaker:well, the,
Speaker:I proud even more than,
Speaker:Oh my God.
Speaker:Amazing. Because they just knew how important it was.
Speaker:And they just pulled out all the stops.
Speaker:I didn't know anything.
Speaker:I was sleeping soundly in my bed and they did that.
Speaker:And it was just the most,
Speaker:I was so emotional that day was just ridiculous because we
Speaker:got it out in time.
Speaker:And it was wonderful.
Speaker:We were talking about how important it is in terms of
Speaker:your relationships with your customers.
Speaker:But now listen to what you just talked about,
Speaker:your relationship with your employees and the factories that are working
Speaker:for you,
Speaker:et cetera.
Speaker:They didn't even call you.
Speaker:They just did it.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:that is just,
Speaker:that speaks mountains about who you are as a person and
Speaker:as a business owner.
Speaker:It's an excellent example.
Speaker:I'm so glad we got onto this topic.
Speaker:I don't know if you were planning on sharing this or
Speaker:not, but I'm so glad we drew it out.
Speaker:It was the one order that really stood out in my
Speaker:mind and the factory stock.
Speaker:They're just amazing people.
Speaker:And they just try so hard and they work so hard
Speaker:and I'm so proud of all of them.
Speaker:And you know,
Speaker:we try and mentor them so that they get into a
Speaker:position of knowledge and position where they can be powerful within
Speaker:the company,
Speaker:that they can make decisions because they've been there and they
Speaker:understand the products.
Speaker:So unbelievably well,
Speaker:because most of them have been with me from the start.
Speaker:And it's fantastic.
Speaker:We've got a great relationship.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I yell and scream and I'm mad at them sometimes.
Speaker:And you know,
Speaker:and they also got Wolf.
Speaker:Don't worry.
Speaker:They're also under stress.
Speaker:But the end of the day,
Speaker:we bought Kentucky fried chicken and we sit down and we
Speaker:have a good laugh.
Speaker:It's the highs and the lows.
Speaker:But we in a creative world,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:what do you want to do?
Speaker:Rep torta papers for the rest of your life,
Speaker:you know?
Speaker:Or do you want to actually do something creative and make
Speaker:a difference in people's lives?
Speaker:That's what we think we do.
Speaker:This has been fabulous.
Speaker:Okay. As we go on,
Speaker:I want to get some more golden nuggets out of you
Speaker:in a section that we call our reflection section.
Speaker:It's a way to look at you as a business owner
Speaker:and what types of things you innately have,
Speaker:or you use to help you be successful.
Speaker:So if you were to identify one natural trait that you
Speaker:continue to call upon,
Speaker:what would that be?
Speaker:You have a work ethic.
Speaker:I'm a hard worker.
Speaker:That is my strongest rate.
Speaker:Make sure I'm there for my family.
Speaker:My husband said,
Speaker:he's never even mind if he doesn't mind me working at
Speaker:all. But the one thing is is that when it's family
Speaker:time, it's family time and that's it.
Speaker:You home on time and you switch off from work.
Speaker:But when I'm at work,
Speaker:I work,
Speaker:I don't waste time.
Speaker:I make decisions quickly.
Speaker:And it's one decision I can't afford to come up with
Speaker:too many different options and sit and discuss it for days
Speaker:on end.
Speaker:You can't do that when you're in the business,
Speaker:time is money and you've got to make a decision quite
Speaker:quickly and work hard.
Speaker:And everyone does work on.
Speaker:And we do that.
Speaker:Sometimes we've worked so hard and we say,
Speaker:you know what,
Speaker:Friday 10 o'clock let's all stop.
Speaker:And we're going to have a little lunch.
Speaker:And then we all going to go home and we do
Speaker:that. So it's like a little reward that you get,
Speaker:but we work hard.
Speaker:I would say that with all my staff,
Speaker:as to why we are,
Speaker:where we are now is because of sheer hard work,
Speaker:obviously talent.
Speaker:You've got to have talent.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:if you don't have talent,
Speaker:you're not going to get anywhere anyway,
Speaker:but there's talent.
Speaker:And it started in my tenants.
Speaker:It's all the creatives talents.
Speaker:It's a collaboration.
Speaker:It's not me.
Speaker:We all sit as a team together and we work together
Speaker:and we work hard together.
Speaker:So work hard,
Speaker:Play hard.
Speaker:And having that separation of when you're done,
Speaker:take your mind off it,
Speaker:go do other types of things.
Speaker:And you know,
Speaker:there've been a lot of studies done lately that showed that
Speaker:putting in 15,
Speaker:17 hour days and working like a crazy person,
Speaker:it doesn't necessarily produce any more than if you really focus
Speaker:for the eight hours or whatever your business is gonna be.
Speaker:That's exactly it often towards the end of the day,
Speaker:when I'm getting tired and I'm backing with the design and
Speaker:I just can't get it right.
Speaker:And I've created it myself and I've got everyone else to
Speaker:critique it and are still not happy with the solution.
Speaker:I didn't just close the office.
Speaker:And, and this also took me a while to learn as
Speaker:well. And then I forget about it.
Speaker:I'm now with my family and it's family time and totally
Speaker:relaxed by the end of the evening,
Speaker:you go to sleep.
Speaker:You wake up in the morning and I'm not joking.
Speaker:I'll go to that design.
Speaker:And I'll say,
Speaker:Oh, there's the problem.
Speaker:And I sorted out within 10 minutes in the olden days,
Speaker:I would have sat there for another three,
Speaker:four, five hours trying to get it right,
Speaker:forget it.
Speaker:My brain is too tired.
Speaker:It's it's just not working effectively and productively.
Speaker:So that's why I say,
Speaker:when I'm at work,
Speaker:I work really hard.
Speaker:And I know I get tired towards the end of the
Speaker:day when I've reached a problem.
Speaker:I never ever take it home with me.
Speaker:I leave it and somehow dreams and sleep.
Speaker:I can tell you it restores everything.
Speaker:Just take that time out.
Speaker:You have to,
Speaker:and don't interfere with the family.
Speaker:The family is so important.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:they, my backup,
Speaker:whenever I'm in real trouble,
Speaker:anywhere, if I'm in a,
Speaker:in a Gosling meeting and I'm not having a good time
Speaker:at the back of my mind,
Speaker:I've always got trade school loves me trips.
Speaker:The lesbian traced the lesbian.
Speaker:That's my husband.
Speaker:I just think all else fails.
Speaker:He's the loves me.
Speaker:So that's okay.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:And that's what keeps me going is that is,
Speaker:is you can just leave you work.
Speaker:We have work and have play and play as hard as
Speaker:you work.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I do.
Speaker:I, we have a great time and it just invigorates and
Speaker:it stimulation a creative person needs to get out of the
Speaker:situation in order to be stimulated.
Speaker:You need to get away.
Speaker:I'd taken,
Speaker:I know you Americans don't actually go for this,
Speaker:but seriously,
Speaker:I take two months.
Speaker:Leave a year.
Speaker:Yeah, we don't do that.
Speaker:I know you don't.
Speaker:So it's split up over the year,
Speaker:but it's not a holiday that I haven't holidays with my
Speaker:children when they're on holiday,
Speaker:I take off and I can tell you,
Speaker:I come back and I'm full of ideas and I'm so
Speaker:creative and I'm energized.
Speaker:I can't wait to get back to work.
Speaker:Whereas I've been business before in my first business,
Speaker:which failed.
Speaker:And I used to work until midnight.
Speaker:And I did that.
Speaker:You're in your art and you know what?
Speaker:The business still failed.
Speaker:What I'm saying is that this time I haven't done that,
Speaker:I've made sure I've kept it separate,
Speaker:but I've kept that balance.
Speaker:And I tell you,
Speaker:now that has got a lot to do with the success
Speaker:VR today.
Speaker:I come in fresh every day,
Speaker:excited every day,
Speaker:motivated every day because it hasn't been working all day and
Speaker:all night.
Speaker:You just can't do that.
Speaker:Such a great message.
Speaker:And if we could all just learn that it's difficult focusing,
Speaker:working when you have to,
Speaker:and then taking your break and focusing on things for yourself,
Speaker:being with your family,
Speaker:all of that,
Speaker:I naturally want to work day and not are naturally want
Speaker:to do that because I love what I do and I
Speaker:want to solve the problem,
Speaker:but I know whatever you learned this later is that I
Speaker:have to have that break for me to really be effective.
Speaker:It's taken me a long time to learn that.
Speaker:And I'm saying what you achieved in those six or seven
Speaker:hours that you work into the night you could have achieved
Speaker:in one hour the next day.
Speaker:Absolutely. You have a book or some thing that you think
Speaker:our listeners could find value in,
Speaker:in terms of what you're doing either in business or with
Speaker:your downtime.
Speaker:Okay. Mon his books are strictly downtown for me,
Speaker:as I say,
Speaker:I've worked all day and I come back and then I'm
Speaker:with my family and I've also got five dogs.
Speaker:So, and that all require attention.
Speaker:And so I generally on my holidays that I take,
Speaker:which is my two months,
Speaker:which is broken up in the kids' holidays.
Speaker:And I then grab every single possible romantic book or frivolous
Speaker:book or whatever book I can get my hands on.
Speaker:I've just read that you before me.
Speaker:And I just,
Speaker:Oh, it tickled my fancy.
Speaker:It was just this whimsical story about this girl.
Speaker:She was so creative and she just loved life.
Speaker:And she just made everyone else's life just beautiful.
Speaker:And she gave a lot,
Speaker:it really stood out in my mind because I thought she
Speaker:just made an effort with family and friends and everybody,
Speaker:it just reminded me that I'm just making sure that I
Speaker:keep everyone else upbeat as well.
Speaker:It was a lovely book to read.
Speaker:And it just made me realize that I'm as everywhere we
Speaker:go and let's just enjoy and disrespect life because it's so
Speaker:beautiful. And we sometimes ruin it by overdoing things in certain
Speaker:sections. I agree with you.
Speaker:And I also think that by getting Way in reading some
Speaker:of that too,
Speaker:sometimes you get brand new ideas for your business,
Speaker:just from things you're not even thinking about in that way
Speaker:or reinforcement,
Speaker:give biz listeners just as you're listening to us today,
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Speaker:Okay, Bridgette.
Speaker:Now I invite you to dare to dream.
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Speaker:What is inside this box?
Speaker:That is so exciting.
Speaker:I'll tell you now,
Speaker:what I really,
Speaker:really, really want to do is that I want to specialize
Speaker:in custom made kits and just drive that where for every
Speaker:occasion there'll be a different kit that you can open up
Speaker:and you can put everything together because people don't have time.
Speaker:Oh, I would love that.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:also the staff,
Speaker:they love putting these kits together to come up with different
Speaker:kits and the most exciting creative kits off the wall projects.
Speaker:Dan did project God makers,
Speaker:but do things that are different,
Speaker:totally different kids.
Speaker:My passion is finite.
Speaker:That's what I studied.
Speaker:And I would love to involve a lot of mixed media
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Speaker:We kind of known by our mannequins,
Speaker:which we dress up in paper and fabric and stuff like
Speaker:that. Now I want to put kids like that together,
Speaker:really exciting kits so that you can,
Speaker:you receive it in your home and you can put it
Speaker:up on your wall.
Speaker:And it's something that you've created and you've made it yours.
Speaker:So that's what I'd really like to do.
Speaker:It'd be really cool.
Speaker:And give biz listeners.
Speaker:I have a couple of photos of those mannequins.
Speaker:I will put them on the show notes page so that
Speaker:you can see what we're talking about.
Speaker:Also on the show notes page,
Speaker:there's going to be all the links that there normally are.
Speaker:Two websites,
Speaker:social media sites and all of that.
Speaker:So you'll be able to see what Bridgette is doing.
Speaker:And my guess is pretty.
Speaker:You might have some of those paths.
Speaker:I hear the passion passion coming through.
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:Your story has been absolutely fabulous.
Speaker:Thinking of you with your sister in the loft,
Speaker:then taking the chance on your first collections.
Speaker:Blaue through to number 11 and 12.
Speaker:We really were seeing that this was clicking.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:the rubber hits the road.
Speaker:As we say here,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:it's working for you and now to where you are right
Speaker:now, you know,
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