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BUSINESS BUILDING INSIGHTS
- In order to grow, you have to step outside the box.
- Do what you do because you love doing it and not just for the money. Just be great at it.
- Be you. Be unique. You can be like nobody else.
- You can monetize your gifts by teaching what you know.
- Always be on your A game. You never know who is watching and will notice you.
Roshell's Road To Baking Business Success
- Consider being a brand ambassador. It's a great way to increase your visibility and create a new income stream.
- You can have your own product line. Find a manufacturer or supplier that will produce or create that is fitting for your brand and company.
- Collaborate with other business owners who have similar products as you do. You can have a portion of your shop in their location or create something completely new together.
- Every market is different. Do your research on what works for your own market.
- Don't guess - find out what people are into when trying to create your products.
- Tune in for lots more ideas on how to build your business!
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Gift biz unwrapped episode 316.
Speaker:I hadn't even came through the door yet.
Speaker:I hit the door and attention.
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Speaker:I do it too.
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Speaker:Moving on to our show today,
Speaker:you've heard the stories of people overcoming tragedy and rising to
Speaker:something greater.
Speaker:This is going to be one of those inspirational stories,
Speaker:but it's even more you see to use Rochelle's own words.
Speaker:She decided it was time to step out from inside the
Speaker:box and has it ever paid off this popular sweet maker
Speaker:experienced let downs on several fronts,
Speaker:but Rose baking pun intended to create her own product line
Speaker:and catch this.
Speaker:You guys be a final four contender in the greatest Baker.
Speaker:All because she stepped into her greatness.
Speaker:Today's guest is Rochelle Ingram.
Speaker:If you check her out on Instagram,
Speaker:right in her bio,
Speaker:she starts with it's yo girl row.
Speaker:And that pretty much sums up the spirit behind this powerhouse
Speaker:of a lady.
Speaker:The room lights up when she enters and her energy is
Speaker:contagious. Rochelle is a well-known and popular Baker pastry artist and
Speaker:confectioner. She serves as head instructor and CEO of your sweet
Speaker:connection, a company that serves other bakers,
Speaker:the knowledge and techniques to develop their own baking business.
Speaker:She's been featured in America cake decorating magazine and seen on
Speaker:tasty. Rochelle.
Speaker:We've been working so hard and finally,
Speaker:I've gotten you on the gift biz unwrapped podcast.
Speaker:Welcome. Thank you.
Speaker:It took us a while,
Speaker:but that just means this is going to be a super
Speaker:special episode.
Speaker:How about that?
Speaker:Absolutely Valley made it here.
Speaker:Finally. Finally,
Speaker:anyway, I always start out by asking each of my guests
Speaker:the same question we've been airing actually for about six years
Speaker:now. So I have six years of answers to this question.
Speaker:Congratulate. Thank you.
Speaker:But our listeners really are interested because it gives people a
Speaker:different look besides just the intro,
Speaker:like a different peak inside of who you are.
Speaker:So if you were to share with us a motivational candle,
Speaker:that in your mind,
Speaker:you imagine would be your perfect candle.
Speaker:What would it look like by color and quote?
Speaker:Well, for color would be purple and quotes would be live
Speaker:life and live it more abundantly And live it more abundantly
Speaker:because do you feel like people aren't really giving the life
Speaker:all the Gusto it deserves?
Speaker:No. Yeah.
Speaker:I think we hold ourselves back.
Speaker:Oh yeah,
Speaker:absolutely. Especially in this industry,
Speaker:a lot of people hold back and don't know what they
Speaker:really hold or what they really have until they tap into
Speaker:their gifts.
Speaker:Why do you think that is that they hold back?
Speaker:I believe fear,
Speaker:fear of the unknown or fear of the success,
Speaker:fear of the work.
Speaker:And that's just from my experience in teaching other students,
Speaker:a lot of them have a lot of fear or fear
Speaker:of having such a big responsibility.
Speaker:Oh, interesting.
Speaker:So the fear comes from all over the place then.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:That's just from the students that I have interact with.
Speaker:And it's so many,
Speaker:I have taught over thousands of bakers or entrepreneurs from those
Speaker:that have brick and mortars,
Speaker:but all of them have displayed to me a fear of
Speaker:everything I just mentioned.
Speaker:And more so lately I've noticed the fear of responsibility is
Speaker:like, they start off real good and soon as they feel
Speaker:like they can handle it or something feels like it's too
Speaker:much like bills,
Speaker:customer service,
Speaker:they want to shut down.
Speaker:Be like,
Speaker:okay, I can't handle it.
Speaker:Yeah. Well I would say that this whole entrepreneurial journey,
Speaker:like the whole word entrepreneur is such a big,
Speaker:popular word right now.
Speaker:Yes. It can equate to freedom in some way,
Speaker:because you get to be your own boss,
Speaker:but there is a lot to it.
Speaker:And like with you,
Speaker:with working with Baker specifically,
Speaker:I think it's the same,
Speaker:whether you're a Baker or another type of product maker,
Speaker:but you love what you're doing because you love the idea
Speaker:of the making portion,
Speaker:but there's all the other business aspects to look at and
Speaker:consider as well.
Speaker:Right. Everything looks good once you get it done or something
Speaker:that you either create and then,
Speaker:or produce,
Speaker:or start a nutrient.
Speaker:It's good at that moment.
Speaker:But then when you're constantly going and going,
Speaker:it's work involved at the end of the day is nothing
Speaker:but work.
Speaker:And the key to that is to stay consistent.
Speaker:Yeah. Well,
Speaker:and I think you also have to like doing it.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:I have a passion.
Speaker:Yes. Some people get into it and say,
Speaker:you know what?
Speaker:I really like baking cakes,
Speaker:but this whole business side of it not interested.
Speaker:So either they get somebody to do that business side or,
Speaker:and this is an okay thing too.
Speaker:They just decide that they're not going to have it be
Speaker:a business.
Speaker:Not in the sense that we're talking about a professional business
Speaker:where you're really going to try to have some portion of
Speaker:life sustaining income with it.
Speaker:Right. Even if it's an extra $500 a month,
Speaker:let's say,
Speaker:cause still with that,
Speaker:you've got your taxes.
Speaker:You've got your bookkeeping.
Speaker:You have all that,
Speaker:that you would need to do.
Speaker:This is a whole concept.
Speaker:I like what you brought up here is that the fear
Speaker:comes at all different stages because I don't think,
Speaker:well, I'm going to ask you this question.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:aren't you,
Speaker:I don't know if you use the word fearful,
Speaker:but anxious or nervous sometimes as you continue to grow.
Speaker:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker:I was going through that right now because I've started my
Speaker:online shop.
Speaker:My e-commerce,
Speaker:but I've been open publicly since the black Friday sale.
Speaker:So since I was there in November,
Speaker:I always had an online shop,
Speaker:but I was selling to just my students,
Speaker:my groups,
Speaker:no, the students that's in my groups.
Speaker:Oh, so now you're public facing with your shop?
Speaker:Yes. All right.
Speaker:We're going to dive into that a little bit more as
Speaker:we go,
Speaker:but I just want to say one more thing about this
Speaker:fear thing and Rochelle,
Speaker:I might embarrass you a little bit.
Speaker:I'm not sure,
Speaker:but you just have to go with me here on this.
Speaker:I'm very transparent.
Speaker:I'm open.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So talking about like looking on And thinking that you want
Speaker:to start your business.
Speaker:I remember when I first met you in person.
Speaker:Okay. Which was at Sid's show,
Speaker:right? The ultimate sugar show.
Speaker:Yes, that's correct.
Speaker:And I'm not even kidding when you walked in first off,
Speaker:you're really tall.
Speaker:So you have a big presence when you come in.
Speaker:Right. But it was like,
Speaker:people knew you entered the room and swarmed You.
Speaker:Right. I was shocked.
Speaker:Do you remember that?
Speaker:Yeah. And I'm like,
Speaker:Whoa, who is that?
Speaker:I got to know who that is.
Speaker:And then when I found out it was you because I
Speaker:already knew you by name and face.
Speaker:Really? Okay.
Speaker:Yeah. I didn't know you in person and you know how
Speaker:I knew you.
Speaker:I knew you because of Aaron from arc-on mounts.
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:Yes. Yeah.
Speaker:Because Aaron and I got into a conversation about you at
Speaker:one point along the way he's been on the show too.
Speaker:Okay, great.
Speaker:Yeah. And so that was how,
Speaker:but so my point in bringing this up and embarrassing you
Speaker:a little bit,
Speaker:maybe, but just giving our listeners a feel for who you
Speaker:are too,
Speaker:is that a lot of people could look on and say,
Speaker:Oh, I want to be that.
Speaker:Right. All they see is that,
Speaker:and they don't see everything else that it's taken you to
Speaker:get there.
Speaker:And I'm really curious.
Speaker:How did you feel when you entered the room and like
Speaker:all these people swarmed over to you,
Speaker:was it like shocking and nerve wracking or were you like
Speaker:excited and happy and accepted?
Speaker:It was shocking and exciting just to even be in their
Speaker:presence and that they thought that much of me,
Speaker:so I'm like,
Speaker:Oh my goodness.
Speaker:Like, okay.
Speaker:It had to feel so great.
Speaker:It's like affirmation for everything that you do.
Speaker:I hadn't even came through the door yet and I hit
Speaker:the door.
Speaker:Oh. I mean,
Speaker:like everybody Caught up.
Speaker:I know,
Speaker:right. Oh,
Speaker:okay. Well I just walk in.
Speaker:Yeah. And that wasn't a small room either.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it was a whole big,
Speaker:that was the trade show area where all the booths were
Speaker:and all that.
Speaker:So it was a big room.
Speaker:So yeah,
Speaker:that was hysterical.
Speaker:But I want to go back and have everyone learn about
Speaker:myself, included your journey.
Speaker:Cause we've already talked a little bit about where you are
Speaker:now. We've also talked about the fear.
Speaker:You've pointed it out that a lot of your students,
Speaker:one of the big fears is just even taking that first
Speaker:step. So let's go back in time for you and talk
Speaker:about how that happened.
Speaker:Where were you when you identified that this was something that
Speaker:you love doing the whole baking industry?
Speaker:Well, my story is a little different and maybe the same
Speaker:for others.
Speaker:And it just hasn't out with some,
Speaker:maybe You've piqued my curiosity now.
Speaker:So I've been baking for a long time.
Speaker:Since I was 14,
Speaker:15, then I got into baking cakes and pound cakes for
Speaker:my dad's church.
Speaker:He's a pastor.
Speaker:Well, he just retired Just now,
Speaker:just recently,
Speaker:just, Oh,
Speaker:good for dad Was this last year and my brother took
Speaker:over. So I would do cakes.
Speaker:And it was a point in my life in 2014,
Speaker:2015 things,
Speaker:2014 or 2015,
Speaker:one of them.
Speaker:And I just asked my daughter,
Speaker:this question.
Speaker:I had a tumor,
Speaker:the size of a soccer ball in my belly.
Speaker:Didn't know it,
Speaker:it had to be removed.
Speaker:It sat me down.
Speaker:I got into a depressed state in my life because at
Speaker:that time I had other business,
Speaker:I had a group home business.
Speaker:I had eight homes and I would manage them every single
Speaker:day. Well,
Speaker:this particular day,
Speaker:April 17th,
Speaker:2014, I was sat down.
Speaker:I had to learn how to walk again.
Speaker:I couldn't do anything.
Speaker:And I was in a depressed state in my life that
Speaker:I had to figure out something.
Speaker:I felt I was losing everything.
Speaker:Because at that time I was making $300,000
Speaker:a year between those eight homes.
Speaker:So those Were group homes for Seniors and the mentally developed
Speaker:disabled. So that's one of,
Speaker:so you were going out and making sure that all the
Speaker:homes that everything was working properly and functioning well and all
Speaker:that. Yep.
Speaker:I had staff,
Speaker:I would network with different lawyers,
Speaker:different counselors,
Speaker:guardians, whoever needed placement for their family member.
Speaker:That's what I did.
Speaker:Wow. What a fabulous service that you were providing?
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I know you're doing it as a business,
Speaker:but what a fabulous service.
Speaker:So you,
Speaker:with the tumor that you found,
Speaker:like everything had to change in your life in including learning
Speaker:how to walk,
Speaker:as you were saying,
Speaker:and like it was a whole life reset for you,
Speaker:then I'm guessing,
Speaker:Oh, reset.
Speaker:Everything that was flashed before me was just like,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:and then it was crazy because I was getting tired of
Speaker:just doing it by myself.
Speaker:My son had went off to college.
Speaker:My oldest daughter had started driving semi trucks.
Speaker:So it was just my youngest daughter,
Speaker:which is going to be 18.
Speaker:And then my son is 14 and it was her birthday.
Speaker:And I got cold.
Speaker:Had chills,
Speaker:came back home and took her to her priorities.
Speaker:Still try to get her a special day.
Speaker:And that day they had to rush me from her event
Speaker:to the hospital.
Speaker:My temperature was 256,
Speaker:over 180.
Speaker:I passed out in the lobby.
Speaker:I woke up,
Speaker:I was in a hospital bed.
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:But from that day,
Speaker:after going through all of that,
Speaker:I knew that I was like,
Speaker:okay, I recoup,
Speaker:I got to get back into it.
Speaker:Cause I got a business to run.
Speaker:So my body went septic.
Speaker:I was at home with Ivy.
Speaker:I couldn't do anything.
Speaker:My sister had to come over and give me medicine.
Speaker:So during that time I just had to sign up to
Speaker:do something cause I don't drink or smoke or do anything
Speaker:like that.
Speaker:So I really began to tap into my gift.
Speaker:And over that period of time,
Speaker:I fell in love with sugar art and started doing candy,
Speaker:apples, anything with sugar temper in and all of that.
Speaker:Did you test like a couple of creative endeavors and then
Speaker:land on sugar art or did it come to sugar out
Speaker:right from the beginning?
Speaker:No. It started with strawberries and then I started doing candy
Speaker:apples. And then as just started,
Speaker:just like,
Speaker:Oh, I can do this with sugar.
Speaker:I can make a Rose with sugar.
Speaker:It started from there.
Speaker:And I remember my sister,
Speaker:she would come over and she would get me up and
Speaker:take me into the kitchen.
Speaker:And I would just sit in there because I couldn't walk.
Speaker:And I would just sit in there and everything was assessable
Speaker:to me.
Speaker:And I would just begin to start with my craft.
Speaker:And I was like,
Speaker:I feel alone until my kids got home.
Speaker:The time I wasn't a Facebook person.
Speaker:But at the time I would try to figure out what
Speaker:I needed to do or to something that would entertain me.
Speaker:Cause my mind was already focused in,
Speaker:on being creative for tapping into my gift.
Speaker:And at that time,
Speaker:I didn't know what I was just trying to spend my
Speaker:day with my mind,
Speaker:keeping my mind stimulated.
Speaker:So I wouldn't think about my condition because I just didn't
Speaker:want to be disabled.
Speaker:Right. Like your condition.
Speaker:But you were also lonely cause everyone was off doing their
Speaker:days. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. And I couldn't go nowhere until somebody came that was
Speaker:like reality hit.
Speaker:Like, this is what I do for people.
Speaker:Now. I got people coming over here doing this for me.
Speaker:This is not how it is supposed to be.
Speaker:So it was a depressed state of my life.
Speaker:And at that time I had a friend of mine,
Speaker:a guy,
Speaker:friend of mine and he left.
Speaker:That was it.
Speaker:So I was like,
Speaker:well Lord,
Speaker:what am I going to do?
Speaker:What is it that you want me to do?
Speaker:So this is what I'm having a conversation every day.
Speaker:Like I'm here.
Speaker:You saved me to be here at the,
Speaker:all it is.
Speaker:What is it that you want me to do?
Speaker:So I got into Facebook.
Speaker:Someone asked me,
Speaker:Oh, they liked what I had posted.
Speaker:They wanted to know how could they learn?
Speaker:And I just got into Facebook doing different photos posting.
Speaker:And then I found Periscope.
Speaker:I was introduced to Periscope,
Speaker:chat on Periscope.
Speaker:And all I did was show how,
Speaker:and this is after I done,
Speaker:went through my therapy and stuff like that,
Speaker:the tumor was connected to my kidneys and my bladder.
Speaker:So I had to go to therapy and they had to
Speaker:make sure everything was good.
Speaker:But as I made it through all of that,
Speaker:I just started to be more in tune with people that
Speaker:had the same liking of the art.
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:Oh, it's all another world.
Speaker:I was realized it's a whole nother world over here.
Speaker:Yeah. So at that depressed state of my life,
Speaker:I realized I had a gift that needed to be shared
Speaker:to other people because when I got on Periscope and hearing
Speaker:the stories or reading people's stories or people inboxing me telling
Speaker:me, Oh my God,
Speaker:I told my testimony through Periscope and people just started coming
Speaker:off from all walks of life.
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:okay, there's something here.
Speaker:Yeah. So when you Periscope,
Speaker:where you demoing,
Speaker:how you made some of the sugar art,
Speaker:is that what your content was?
Speaker:Yep. So did You have a regular show where you showed
Speaker:up a certain day of the week or in time of
Speaker:the day and all that?
Speaker:So people knew to look for you or was it that
Speaker:people just happened to find you if they were scrolling Periscope?
Speaker:Well, at first I would just jump on and just start
Speaker:doing different things and just record myself.
Speaker:And then when I seen that I had a following,
Speaker:then I created a group called divine bacon divas.
Speaker:And that now holds,
Speaker:that was one of the group that everybody wanted to get
Speaker:into, which DVD stands for divine bacon,
Speaker:diva and divas,
Speaker:meaning divinely and spired,
Speaker:but victorious and always serving,
Speaker:Oh, I love that.
Speaker:Yeah. Not just serving treats or cakes,
Speaker:but we're serving to the community and others to continue to
Speaker:be inspired as a sisterhood.
Speaker:So I created that group and that's when I started with
Speaker:looking to see who would be a part and their free
Speaker:time helped me to grow the group.
Speaker:And I met some wonderful ladies.
Speaker:Some came,
Speaker:some went,
Speaker:but there are some that still they're holding it down till
Speaker:this day.
Speaker:So divine baking divas.
Speaker:Is that Periscope specific or is it a Facebook group or
Speaker:what is that group now?
Speaker:It's a Facebook group.
Speaker:It's a Facebook group.
Speaker:Okay. So that's what I was scheduled.
Speaker:Like make an announcement.
Speaker:Hey, I'm doing this on Periscope.
Speaker:Join me.
Speaker:And that's when my following just started to grow.
Speaker:Okay. Gotcha.
Speaker:And at this point,
Speaker:were you monetizing anything or you were just what you knew
Speaker:and your skill you were teaching,
Speaker:but you weren't getting paid for any of that.
Speaker:Yeah. I wouldn't monetize it at all.
Speaker:But What you were doing at that point is validating that
Speaker:there was a ton of interest out there to learn from
Speaker:you and to know what,
Speaker:you know.
Speaker:Yeah. I was still letting the community,
Speaker:I had to figure out like,
Speaker:what's really going on.
Speaker:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker:It's so,
Speaker:and the Facebook group grew and we still have 3000 over
Speaker:3000 people in the group.
Speaker:It was like,
Speaker:we got to like six to 8,000
Speaker:people waiting to get in.
Speaker:And I made it private because the foundation that I was
Speaker:laying on in this group,
Speaker:we're going to do everything I'm teaching for free.
Speaker:And this is what I'm displaying.
Speaker:So I wanted people to have the freedom of advertising or
Speaker:showing their work because what I've learned then when nobody share
Speaker:and I'm like,
Speaker:well, I'm just a vessel being used.
Speaker:Cause we be going through that process of what I went
Speaker:through at that time,
Speaker:I felt I should do this freely.
Speaker:And I still give a lot of free information,
Speaker:but now that it's more structured and I'm doing things as
Speaker:a business and at that time it wasn't a business for
Speaker:me. It was just sharing what I know what I learned
Speaker:and I'm self-taught.
Speaker:Yeah. Well,
Speaker:I love that because that will relate to a lot of
Speaker:our listeners.
Speaker:Right. Because,
Speaker:and a lot of people I know who listen,
Speaker:feel like maybe if they didn't have education behind their craft,
Speaker:that it's not worth charging for all know,
Speaker:like they've never had to learn the skill,
Speaker:even though they naturally have the skill or to your point
Speaker:are self-taught.
Speaker:But so let's continue with your story.
Speaker:So how,
Speaker:where at what point did the transition come in of you
Speaker:starting to form a real business?
Speaker:I would say in 2015.
Speaker:So within a year,
Speaker:within a year,
Speaker:because I was getting so many requests and at the time
Speaker:I still had my homes,
Speaker:but I had lost four,
Speaker:had eight.
Speaker:Now I had lost four.
Speaker:I had to shut them down.
Speaker:So in this process,
Speaker:I'm still going through my issues,
Speaker:which nobody knows.
Speaker:And I'm writing a book about it,
Speaker:then wrote a book.
Speaker:I just got to finish it.
Speaker:But in my book,
Speaker:I talk about this process because after all of that,
Speaker:I'm still here and I got a whole nother business and
Speaker:not saying that I didn't love it,
Speaker:but I love this is just where I should be.
Speaker:Well, there's nothing to say that at that time in your
Speaker:life and in the world,
Speaker:that was what you were supposed to be doing.
Speaker:He has some differences.
Speaker:Yeah. Now At this point,
Speaker:this is what you should be doing.
Speaker:So what steps,
Speaker:like tell us in more of a concrete way,
Speaker:how did you start building a business?
Speaker:Did you decide then that you were going to create the
Speaker:name of your business?
Speaker:What did you do?
Speaker:When I created the vine back in Davis,
Speaker:I had to file paperwork.
Speaker:Cause at that point it became a business for what I
Speaker:wanted to see form out of it.
Speaker:So we started serving to the community,
Speaker:me and another ambassador of mine.
Speaker:Her name is Tijuana,
Speaker:she's still ambassador and LaDonna and we did Easter basket drive.
Speaker:So I knew if I was going to be out in
Speaker:the community,
Speaker:I had to pad my name and get started in that
Speaker:process. I was setting up to do shows like to have
Speaker:people come out and just show they work.
Speaker:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker:And just make money off of it.
Speaker:But I started doing my own workshops,
Speaker:traveling to different States,
Speaker:doing my own workshops.
Speaker:I did a tour and just did candy.
Speaker:I did treat,
Speaker:it was just a treat tour.
Speaker:And I did candy,
Speaker:apples, strawberries,
Speaker:rice, Krispie treats is whatever everyone was really into.
Speaker:And I did a whole treat package and I made that
Speaker:a workshop.
Speaker:So These were face-to-face workshops where they connected with a trade
Speaker:show or were they just your own workshops?
Speaker:No, they were at my own workshops.
Speaker:I didn't get into trade shows until that following year.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So you went around to probably where people were,
Speaker:who were part of the divine baking DeVos,
Speaker:I'm guessing.
Speaker:And then we're doing live workshops and that's the first way
Speaker:you monetized teaching what you knew.
Speaker:Okay. Love it.
Speaker:And so how big were those classes?
Speaker:Between 25 to 30.
Speaker:So nice size.
Speaker:Not too big,
Speaker:but not too small either.
Speaker:Yeah. Not too small where you weren't making money on them,
Speaker:but not too big where people didn't felt like they didn't
Speaker:get any of the attention.
Speaker:Yeah. And I think the first class I had 20 people
Speaker:and then when they seen network,
Speaker:they work,
Speaker:then more people wanted to come and I'm like,
Speaker:Oh my God.
Speaker:So I took a whole summer,
Speaker:did a whole summer tour and I did it every year.
Speaker:And I traveled from that time until now I traveled over
Speaker:20 States.
Speaker:Wow. That's amazing.
Speaker:You have that going.
Speaker:And were you doing that up until last year when everything
Speaker:got shut down?
Speaker:Yeah. It got different.
Speaker:Cause that at that point,
Speaker:when they started to hear about me,
Speaker:they wanted me to come to their shows,
Speaker:right? With this girl,
Speaker:I was doing my own workshops.
Speaker:So I would be invited to do different shows and I
Speaker:did a meet and greet with divine bacon divas.
Speaker:And when I did the meet and greet,
Speaker:it was in Atlanta,
Speaker:the first one was in Atlanta and we would do it
Speaker:every other year.
Speaker:And it was just from that community,
Speaker:divine bacon,
Speaker:Dave, the sisterhood.
Speaker:And over the period of time,
Speaker:I had to realize it's just more than us now.
Speaker:I have helped and,
Speaker:and build these ladies up.
Speaker:Those that need help.
Speaker:And it's time for me to take it for me,
Speaker:step out.
Speaker:So that's where from the vine baking divas,
Speaker:since I was creating and building my platform and getting myself
Speaker:out there,
Speaker:I knew I had to do more.
Speaker:And so I would tell Towanna,
Speaker:or LaDanna like,
Speaker:I need to step out and I'm coaching to them.
Speaker:Y'all do too.
Speaker:It's more than just these four walls.
Speaker:I feel like we in the four walls and that's not
Speaker:where we should be in order to grow,
Speaker:we have to step outside of the box.
Speaker:And I feel like now we are inside of the box.
Speaker:And So what was the action to step out of the
Speaker:box, Create another brand,
Speaker:another Institute which produced your sweet connection.
Speaker:So the divine baking divas is still more of an exclusive
Speaker:community. And then how is your sweet connection?
Speaker:Different? They have some similarities,
Speaker:but your sweet connection is more because I did so much
Speaker:in there freely.
Speaker:I didn't want to feel like I wanted to take from
Speaker:that. I still wanted to be as that non-profit so it's
Speaker:not for profit.
Speaker:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker:So, which your sweet connection is the whole brand,
Speaker:a whole corporation where from other businesses that can come from
Speaker:up under that,
Speaker:like YSU supplies shop the VIP,
Speaker:the YFC VIP Academy,
Speaker:which is online.
Speaker:And I just created,
Speaker:I'm still waiting on the paperwork YFC care foundation non-profit foundation
Speaker:to help the less fortunate,
Speaker:those that are at need,
Speaker:any Baker that may be striving and trying to come up
Speaker:and need help.
Speaker:So maybe offering scholarships or things like that.
Speaker:Yes. The vision currently,
Speaker:some of this is still getting established and some of this
Speaker:is already in existence under your suite.
Speaker:Connection is the supply shop,
Speaker:which is your e-commerce location.
Speaker:Right. I want to get into that an Academy,
Speaker:which is a training center and then your care portion,
Speaker:which is the giving back and the nonprofit.
Speaker:Yep. Beautiful.
Speaker:I love that so much.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:Let's talk about the supply shop.
Speaker:How did you decide to get into that?
Speaker:And tell us a little bit more about that.
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Speaker:Well, I go to all these different shows and being asked
Speaker:to be a brand ambassador for this company,
Speaker:for that company.
Speaker:I began to be a brand ambassador for seven different companies.
Speaker:What does it mean when you become a brand ambassador you're
Speaker:displaying or promoting someone else's product or just being a face
Speaker:to their brand for that company to bring in sales or
Speaker:show the use of a product that is good.
Speaker:And I'll only be a part of those that I really
Speaker:do like,
Speaker:and that is good.
Speaker:That works.
Speaker:How did that come about?
Speaker:Is it because they saw that you were using their product
Speaker:already? So I'm saying that I was using their product and
Speaker:then they would email me and say,
Speaker:Hey, we want you to try this.
Speaker:And a lot of the times,
Speaker:if it wasn't something that I have never used and I'm
Speaker:open, but if I don't like it and I don't think
Speaker:it's going to work,
Speaker:then I don't even mention it.
Speaker:And plus,
Speaker:when I started your sweet connection,
Speaker:I started doing YouTube.
Speaker:So I get a lot of sponsor and brand deals from
Speaker:YouTube as well.
Speaker:So they just email or they just act.
Speaker:Okay. And then do you have to sign a contract or
Speaker:something? Or how does that work With some companies?
Speaker:Yes. So they would just send free products for me to
Speaker:try out and just do the content from my social media
Speaker:platform. And just go from there.
Speaker:I do get monetized.
Speaker:I get compensated for whatever I display or whatever I do.
Speaker:So like an affiliate type program.
Speaker:Right. Got it.
Speaker:Okay. So this is,
Speaker:what started you thinking about the supply shop?
Speaker:The e-commerce shop?
Speaker:Yep. I wanted my own baking line.
Speaker:Ooh. Yeah.
Speaker:Wilton's had promised me my own line with them and it's
Speaker:cause I had started doing YouTube and they sent me some
Speaker:stuff and I was,
Speaker:I was created the content,
Speaker:but it never happened.
Speaker:So I was disappointed.
Speaker:Cause by I put out a lot of content on YouTube.
Speaker:You put out A lot of content on YouTube using their
Speaker:product with the understanding that your name or somehow those products.
Speaker:At some point we're going to be a product that people
Speaker:could buy through Wilton,
Speaker:but be branded you.
Speaker:Right. Because my following,
Speaker:if I show or display it,
Speaker:they're going to buy it.
Speaker:Right. And that's where a lot of other companies will come
Speaker:to me because I wouldn't refer.
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:Hey you to go down,
Speaker:check out this shop,
Speaker:check out this shop because if it's good,
Speaker:I'm going to recommend my students or whoever to go and
Speaker:purchase or try it out.
Speaker:So I didn't get it.
Speaker:And at that point I said,
Speaker:you know what?
Speaker:I know,
Speaker:it's a way I can get my arm.
Speaker:But I started researching before I even jumped into even getting
Speaker:my own brand line.
Speaker:And I sat on it for about a year and a
Speaker:half. And I'm like,
Speaker:am I prepared?
Speaker:This is where the fear comes in.
Speaker:Right. So I'm like,
Speaker:am I stuck here for this?
Speaker:Cause soon as I put something out,
Speaker:they want to know.
Speaker:So when I did put it out,
Speaker:Oh my God,
Speaker:I had almost 800 orders.
Speaker:And that was just a silicone mat.
Speaker:I had got silicone mats and I was working on other
Speaker:items. And then I said,
Speaker:okay, I need a supply chain.
Speaker:Okay. So time to back it up,
Speaker:back it up.
Speaker:Okay. So having your own mind,
Speaker:that sounds awesome.
Speaker:How do you get products to be in your own line?
Speaker:Because you're not recreating a product,
Speaker:right? You're not like remaking a product that's different from other
Speaker:products or like,
Speaker:or are you like,
Speaker:how do you get your products and get your name on
Speaker:products and make it into a shop?
Speaker:That's a big question.
Speaker:I had a class for that.
Speaker:Oh, you're so funny.
Speaker:Okay. So just give us a little summary,
Speaker:just a teaser.
Speaker:You don't have to tell us all the details.
Speaker:Obviously people need to take your class if they want to
Speaker:go that route.
Speaker:No. You find a manufacturer that is okay.
Speaker:Say pair rate glass.
Speaker:So I use chocolate.
Speaker:So my signature thing on melting candy,
Speaker:wafer chocolate wafer is in a of glass.
Speaker:Now, if I wanted my own,
Speaker:which I've been working on that for some years now I
Speaker:got one,
Speaker:but I don't like the quality of it.
Speaker:So I'm still in search of finding a new manufacturer that
Speaker:will provide that good quality of glass.
Speaker:So you find a manufacturer or supplier that will produce or
Speaker:create item that is fitting for your brand,
Speaker:your company,
Speaker:or if that's something that's signature that you use.
Speaker:And some people may want.
Speaker:And I'm trying to ask,
Speaker:this is according to me Without telling the secrets.
Speaker:Okay. So you find a place to manufacture your product and
Speaker:then you work with the manufacturer to get it the way
Speaker:you would like it to be.
Speaker:Right? Exactly.
Speaker:So what types of products do you have in the supplies
Speaker:shop Now?
Speaker:That's my own brand or your own brand?
Speaker:My silicone mats,
Speaker:my mixing spoons.
Speaker:I have some measuring cups,
Speaker:but they're not out yet.
Speaker:Ooh. So you're tempting our listeners,
Speaker:Rochelle. Oh yeah.
Speaker:You can have your own product lines.
Speaker:I had a pot,
Speaker:but this pot and this particular item was an issue because
Speaker:it was being manufactured from China and the weight of it
Speaker:was an issue and it got held up at customs for
Speaker:a whole year.
Speaker:So it caused a whole issue.
Speaker:And at that point I had to tell them,
Speaker:okay, and at that time,
Speaker:I didn't know what could have held up that shipment,
Speaker:but anything that's coming from China will cause an issue.
Speaker:If something in that package detects something file or files.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:something, it can be just as small as a bee or
Speaker:something could be in the package.
Speaker:If something is not right with the package is not going
Speaker:to come over to the United States.
Speaker:Yeah. I know that.
Speaker:I import from China.
Speaker:I have my own product also.
Speaker:Okay. And come in from China.
Speaker:I know all that story,
Speaker:but my question is,
Speaker:so you have a lot of different types of products in
Speaker:your supply shop.
Speaker:Are they all from different factories?
Speaker:Yes. Okay.
Speaker:So that's a whole organization thing onto itself too.
Speaker:Yes. Different vendors.
Speaker:Okay. So you've got that.
Speaker:And then you also have you're selling products that are made
Speaker:by others.
Speaker:They're you just endorse them.
Speaker:So you've put them in your shop.
Speaker:You're getting them wholesale.
Speaker:I'm guessing.
Speaker:And then selling them out.
Speaker:Yes, that's correct.
Speaker:Okay. And where Is all of that functioning from?
Speaker:Do you get the product over to you and then you
Speaker:fulfill all the orders physically in some location around you?
Speaker:Yeah. I have everything shipped to me.
Speaker:Everything is delivered to me and I repackage from whatever wholesaler,
Speaker:whether it's from chocolate Merkin's I can even open the whole
Speaker:candy shop.
Speaker:So I tell you,
Speaker:I was telling my students that I just don't know.
Speaker:They so excited because I do have a brick and mortar
Speaker:and an e-commerce class online.
Speaker:But the vendors that I am working with will help provide
Speaker:a million dollar business if they do it.
Speaker:Right. That's amazing if they do it right.
Speaker:If they do it.
Speaker:Right. And the reason why I say that is because if
Speaker:you just throw out some numbers and a scenario,
Speaker:and this is how I did my research,
Speaker:because before the pandemic,
Speaker:I was heading to Atlanta,
Speaker:which I still am to open up a shop and you
Speaker:know, I got some supplies still there and I was going
Speaker:to connect with cooking up.
Speaker:Yeah. Michelle,
Speaker:Michelle has been on the show too.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:Mark and Michelle.
Speaker:Yeah. That's my girl.
Speaker:I want to say something really quick here to everyone who's
Speaker:listening. So gift biz listeners.
Speaker:When we talk about collaborations,
Speaker:listen, as Rochelle keeps talking,
Speaker:this is a perfect example of a collaboration.
Speaker:She was going to build this huge.
Speaker:I don't know if I should be saying this cause not
Speaker:me, but we were going to collaborate and combine our businesses
Speaker:and our services and make something master.
Speaker:I say master elite because it was,
Speaker:they was going to build a state of the art studio
Speaker:for bakers to come in and teach,
Speaker:do video.
Speaker:And I was going to have my portion of the shop
Speaker:in their location.
Speaker:And I still think it's going to come.
Speaker:Yeah. Everything was just put on pause.
Speaker:That's all.
Speaker:Yeah. So I was headed to Atlanta,
Speaker:but I tell people all the time,
Speaker:if you take this scenario,
Speaker:go somewhere.
Speaker:And this is where I did my research.
Speaker:I did my research for even before then.
Speaker:So like three years ago,
Speaker:if you take everybody into bacon,
Speaker:in a location where it's hard and I'm going to say
Speaker:like North Carolina and Riley,
Speaker:they don't have too many supply shops.
Speaker:Right. And I'll use Atlanta for example,
Speaker:because that's where the research came from.
Speaker:Cake art is in Atlanta and they liked the only place
Speaker:that everybody go to in the state of Georgia.
Speaker:They have other little places,
Speaker:but everybody go to cake art because they have everything in
Speaker:there that's needed.
Speaker:They can walk in and get it,
Speaker:Mr. The wait on the orders that come through the mail.
Speaker:Right? So if you have this one shop that everybody's shopping
Speaker:with, this is a million dollar company,
Speaker:right? So say for instance,
Speaker:you have your shop and you put your shop in an
Speaker:area where everybody is in a neutral zone.
Speaker:Everybody can come to.
Speaker:And then now there's another place you're open from Monday through
Speaker:Friday. Right?
Speaker:And just say,
Speaker:for instance,
Speaker:people like to shop Monday through Friday,
Speaker:your doors are open and you have 200 customers come in
Speaker:a day.
Speaker:So say you have a Saturday,
Speaker:which is busy.
Speaker:You got 200 customers come in,
Speaker:you do your end of the day sale.
Speaker:You got 200 customers come in out of those 200 customers.
Speaker:Every one of them spent $200.
Speaker:Okay, let me get out my calculator here,
Speaker:everyone don't spend $200.
Speaker:This is just the example.
Speaker:You got 200 customers.
Speaker:That's $40,000
Speaker:on just that day.
Speaker:And a Saturday is different than other days Than other days.
Speaker:And all the days is not going to be the same
Speaker:because you got to have your slow days.
Speaker:But just the example,
Speaker:if you was the only shop in a location and everybody
Speaker:go to this particular store Monday through Friday,
Speaker:and your traffic is still high throughout the week,
Speaker:that's a million dollar business.
Speaker:If you getting 40,000
Speaker:a day.
Speaker:Cause I seen the people spend the money in the supply
Speaker:shop, right.
Speaker:I spend two to 300,
Speaker:but I'm just saying like,
Speaker:if you can go into a hobby lobby and they have
Speaker:the high traffic and it's just 200 people,
Speaker:so which are small business,
Speaker:if you get that same type of traffic and you just
Speaker:get that in one day,
Speaker:just imagine what you're getting through the week.
Speaker:And that's just Monday through Friday.
Speaker:So if you come in on a Saturday,
Speaker:you got more people or if you open seven days a
Speaker:week. Yeah.
Speaker:For sure.
Speaker:And what you're really getting at is you're identifying an opportunity
Speaker:in a market.
Speaker:You're seeing that there are already people interested and then you're
Speaker:coming in and taking a little piece of the pie if
Speaker:you will.
Speaker:And when you have a brand like you've started to develop,
Speaker:you have a following and it can really add up.
Speaker:Okay. Yeah.
Speaker:Now the one thing I just want to say to people
Speaker:who are maybe new to the show or new to business,
Speaker:Rochelle is talking about a million dollar business.
Speaker:Now that's top line revenue.
Speaker:That's not take-home money.
Speaker:Cause you still have the cost of leasing employees buying the
Speaker:products, taxes,
Speaker:all of that.
Speaker:So I just want to make sure that yeah,
Speaker:all of it,
Speaker:but still you're just showing how there's a market.
Speaker:And there are people that can buy and 200 customers may
Speaker:or may not be realistic,
Speaker:right. When you're starting gardening.
Speaker:Absolutely. But it's just a peek at how the numbers can
Speaker:like to look at your numbers and to see what you
Speaker:need and to go from there.
Speaker:Of course.
Speaker:So you were mentioning in the beginning of our conversation about
Speaker:the supply shop,
Speaker:that it can be very lucrative.
Speaker:As long as you don't make some mistakes.
Speaker:Can you share with us one mistake that you see happen?
Speaker:Like maybe something that you've seen with your students or one
Speaker:mistake. Yeah.
Speaker:Why do you have like 10,
Speaker:you want to share with us or just something that people
Speaker:should be cautious about?
Speaker:What would you say Don't do it because you think you're
Speaker:going to make money.
Speaker:I believe in doing it because you love to and make
Speaker:money, but it's a lot behind it and don't do it
Speaker:to be like someone else or to be better than someone
Speaker:else. Just be great at it.
Speaker:Speak in my language.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it has to be a deeper reason than just financial,
Speaker:The reward.
Speaker:Exactly. So serving the public or serving that community,
Speaker:you have to have a heart behind it.
Speaker:So the biggest mistake you can make is going into it
Speaker:just for the money,
Speaker:because you want to be inviting to your customers.
Speaker:Or the biggest mistake is to go into it and feel
Speaker:like, Oh,
Speaker:I'm going to do the same day.
Speaker:They're doing it.
Speaker:I'm going to get the same thing because it's working for
Speaker:them. But no,
Speaker:what may work for them may not work for you.
Speaker:Right? Every market is different.
Speaker:So you can't take what you see somebody else market and
Speaker:put it in your market and think it's going to work
Speaker:over in this area because that's not the case.
Speaker:Every market is different.
Speaker:Yeah. So true.
Speaker:Wrong thing to do is not do your homework and not
Speaker:research. It's important.
Speaker:Yeah. So we're,
Speaker:do you see things progressing in the future?
Speaker:You've talked about the collaboration that you'll be doing or hopefully
Speaker:still be able to pick up and do with Michelle,
Speaker:but like what else do you see in the next couple
Speaker:of years coming up for you Next couple of years,
Speaker:we're going to continue to do you YouTube opening my shop
Speaker:for my brick and mortar and helping others to do the
Speaker:same. I want to help build.
Speaker:And then I'm still helping people build their business.
Speaker:But I want to be that chef Ramsey,
Speaker:not the Hill part,
Speaker:not the Hills kitchen,
Speaker:but I want to be that age or be that blessing
Speaker:to come in and help others where you see fit.
Speaker:Because when you're in business,
Speaker:it's not easy.
Speaker:And a lot of times people get stuck in the market
Speaker:of a bakery.
Speaker:I want to be the one to just fly out and
Speaker:be like,
Speaker:Hey, where do you need help at?
Speaker:Let's do a sale.
Speaker:Let's look at your numbers.
Speaker:Let's look at,
Speaker:see where you need to do a sale to increase your
Speaker:sales. You know,
Speaker:I want to be that person to go out and help
Speaker:their business.
Speaker:Yeah. So it sounds like you're really high touch.
Speaker:Like you want to be right there with them helping them.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So we can not end the show without talking about a
Speaker:blessing that you've received over the last several months.
Speaker:Can you tell us what's exciting and what had happened to
Speaker:you? Oh my goodness.
Speaker:Yes. That was the greatest Baker.
Speaker:Let's talk about it.
Speaker:Tell us your experience there,
Speaker:man. That was so stressful.
Speaker:Well, tell us,
Speaker:walk us through.
Speaker:It was so stressful.
Speaker:Could you say this was like the shark tank for bakers
Speaker:man? Yes,
Speaker:it definitely was because I got up to the quarterfinals.
Speaker:I could have had it,
Speaker:but it was man.
Speaker:I seen the fight in the quarter finals.
Speaker:I was in first.
Speaker:Then in third I was bounced around from first,
Speaker:second and third,
Speaker:first, second and third,
Speaker:first, second and third.
Speaker:But it's definitely something that you have to be involved to
Speaker:get your following or family involved to,
Speaker:to, to support.
Speaker:Cause the audience votes.
Speaker:Yeah, the audience votes and they by hero votes.
Speaker:So hero votes would double like I think they would double,
Speaker:but when I did it,
Speaker:I didn't really think what it was.
Speaker:I was like,
Speaker:okay, good.
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:I gotta follow him.
Speaker:Let me do this.
Speaker:But then I realized I'm like these people it's a whole
Speaker:thing. Yeah.
Speaker:Because I just would just post it.
Speaker:And some of the other people from my students will post
Speaker:it and I didn't think nothing of it I'm like,
Speaker:okay. They was like,
Speaker:Rochelle, you to the next round.
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:I did.
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:okay, I'm gonna post it tomorrow.
Speaker:I was barely posting it until I got was gradually going
Speaker:to the next level.
Speaker:And I know,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:chef Blake,
Speaker:right? Yeah.
Speaker:Okay. So he will call him crazy.
Speaker:I got to be in competition with you.
Speaker:I'm not going to lose this me.
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:shoot. He was working.
Speaker:It is just,
Speaker:it was like we had a job to do and we
Speaker:were doing it every day after that point.
Speaker:And he was like,
Speaker:well shit,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:you made it to the quarter finals.
Speaker:Right? I'm like,
Speaker:no way.
Speaker:I'm like I did.
Speaker:Oh, exciting.
Speaker:So that's when it starts to really be interesting.
Speaker:But yes,
Speaker:I was may I made it to the quarterfinals and the
Speaker:greatest Baker challenge.
Speaker:And that was very interesting That you say that was very
Speaker:interesting. Did you see any increase in your following from that?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I really didn't do the analytics on that.
Speaker:It was more for the experience.
Speaker:Yeah. It really was.
Speaker:I'm sure you got new followers from that and you definitely
Speaker:got your name out there to other people for sure.
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:That was so fun.
Speaker:I loved watching the progression and then you posted and then
Speaker:you got to the next level and everyone was excited and
Speaker:then you posted again and you got to that next level.
Speaker:It was like,
Speaker:yeah, I clever.
Speaker:Yeah. It was excited.
Speaker:I was like,
Speaker:Oh my God,
Speaker:really? I'm like,
Speaker:no way.
Speaker:That's so fun.
Speaker:So every day I got to the point I was checking,
Speaker:I was checking out.
Speaker:I was like,
Speaker:wow. But always know those that are listening.
Speaker:Be on your a game because there is always someone watching,
Speaker:Oh, that's really good advice when you don't think they're not
Speaker:watching, they're watching.
Speaker:And I always say,
Speaker:till my students to be professional,
Speaker:be you be unique and your gift because you can't be
Speaker:like nobody else got in intended intends for you to be
Speaker:that way because you were created and a unique way.
Speaker:So even in your gifting or just be you and be
Speaker:unique. Beautiful,
Speaker:perfect. We are going to end it there because those are
Speaker:golden words.
Speaker:For sure.
Speaker:If someone wants to join your circle,
Speaker:know more about you,
Speaker:Rochelle, where would the single place online be that you would
Speaker:suggest for them to go?
Speaker:I would say they can follow me on Facebook,
Speaker:but mainly you can go to my YouTube channel and that's
Speaker:all information on what you may need or look for is
Speaker:on there.
Speaker:And that's your sweet connection.
Speaker:Or you can follow me on my Instagram at your sweet
Speaker:Connect and you go there.
Speaker:I give up a lot of gifts.
Speaker:Well now you've piqued.
Speaker:Everyone's curiosity for sure.
Speaker:And give his listeners,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:all of that.
Speaker:It'll all be over in the show notes.
Speaker:So if you weren't able to capture the links,
Speaker:just look at the show notes and you will be able
Speaker:to get directly over to Rochelle.
Speaker:So thank you so much for shell.
Speaker:This has been so interesting.
Speaker:I love your story.
Speaker:I am so glad that you healed and moved on to
Speaker:the whole world of confection artistry.
Speaker:Thank you so much for being on the show today.
Speaker:Thank you for having me.
Speaker:All I have to say is Wilton missed out big time
Speaker:on not taking on Rochelle's line.
Speaker:A great example of keeping an eye on the end goal.
Speaker:And if one path doesn't take you there,
Speaker:you just find another road.
Speaker:Pinterest is our topic for next week.
Speaker:There's been a lot of conversation about Pinterest in the breeze.
Speaker:So I'm loaded with all your questions and next Monday,
Speaker:it's answer time.
Speaker:Finally, make sure you check out maker's MBA while the doors
Speaker:are still open,
Speaker:class starts March 15th and it's already shaping up to be
Speaker:a great group.
Speaker:And I'd love to have you included go to gift biz,
Speaker:unwrapped.com forward slash makers,
Speaker:MBA for all of the details and to grab your seat.
Speaker:Thank you so much for spending time with me today.
Speaker:If you'd like to show support for the podcast,
Speaker:a rating and review would be fabulous and you know what
Speaker:that does.
Speaker:It helps the show get seen by more makers.
Speaker:So it's a really nice way to pay it forward.
Speaker:Also, if you follow the podcast,
Speaker:you'll automatically get new shows,
Speaker:right? The second that they air that way you don't miss
Speaker:anything and now be safe and well.
Speaker:And I'll see you again next week on the gift biz
Speaker:unwrapped Cast.
Speaker:I want to make sure you're familiar with my free Facebook
Speaker:group called gift is breeze.
Speaker:It's a place where we all gather and our community to
Speaker:support each other.
Speaker:Got a really fun post in there.
Speaker:That's my favorite of the week.
Speaker:I have to say where I invite all of you to
Speaker:share what you're doing to show pictures of your product,
Speaker:to show what you're working on for the week to get
Speaker:reaction from other people and just for fun,
Speaker:because we all to see the wonderful products that everybody in
Speaker:the community is making my favorite post every single week,
Speaker:without doubt.
Speaker:Wait, what,
Speaker:aren't you part of the group already,
Speaker:if not make sure to jump over to Facebook and search
Speaker:for the group gift biz breeze don't delay.
