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Speaker:confidence last week,
Speaker:we did a fun but important episode on how looking good
Speaker:on the outside.
Speaker:Boosts our confidence on the inside today.
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Speaker:No more stumbling over your words or timid talk for you.
Speaker:Dr. Michelle shares her powerful three word rebellion concept that will,
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Speaker:Okay. Today I am so excited to introduce you to Dr.
Speaker:Michelle. Mazor Dr.
Speaker:Michelle works with brilliant business owners who are shaking things up,
Speaker:but having trouble talking about it.
Speaker:She combines the tools of successful social movements with the qualitative
Speaker:research skills she earned in her communications PhD to help them
Speaker:craft their powerful captivating message.
Speaker:The author of the three world rebellion host of rebel uprising
Speaker:podcast, and featured in fast company,
Speaker:entrepreneur and Inc.
Speaker:She knows that.
Speaker:Speaking about what you do in a clear and captivating way
Speaker:is the key to reach the people you could help the
Speaker:most and make more money in your business.
Speaker:Dr. Michelle,
Speaker:welcome to the gift biz on wrapped podcast.
Speaker:SU I am thrilled to be here talking to you today.
Speaker:Me too.
Speaker:We are going to dive into something that could be potentially
Speaker:life-changing for a lot of the people who are listening here
Speaker:just in the way they bring themselves out to the world.
Speaker:Yes. Before we dive in,
Speaker:I have a little bit of a tradition here,
Speaker:and that is for you to describe yourself in a creative
Speaker:way through a motivational candle.
Speaker:So if you were to envision the perfect candle,
Speaker:so by color,
Speaker:and then a quote or a saying that would be on
Speaker:your candle,
Speaker:what would it look like?
Speaker:It's So funny that you asked this question because I love
Speaker:it. And I have a candle that sits on my desk
Speaker:and on it,
Speaker:it says I'm a big deal to remind myself that my
Speaker:work is meaningful and worthwhile in the world.
Speaker:And it's scented.
Speaker:It smells like cookies baking in the oven,
Speaker:which is one of my favorite things.
Speaker:And the only thing I would change about it,
Speaker:it's a white candle.
Speaker:And I would actually make this candle like a purple because
Speaker:that's my favorite color in the whole wide world.
Speaker:And it would just bring me much more joy in my
Speaker:life. Well,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:whenever I think of purple,
Speaker:I think of royalty and boldness and visibility,
Speaker:and that ties into being a big deal.
Speaker:Exactly. Yeah,
Speaker:Exactly. Like reminding yourself,
Speaker:like, Hey,
Speaker:it's okay to put myself out there and share the work
Speaker:that I'm doing in the world because it's important.
Speaker:I'm a big deal.
Speaker:Right. But you know what we do,
Speaker:we're all bright purple,
Speaker:but we make our own Lilac.
Speaker:Yes we do.
Speaker:Yeah. It's like we mute our voices and our shine.
Speaker:I think so.
Speaker:And this is going to be the topic that I really,
Speaker:really want to talk about and address today,
Speaker:but let's talk a little bit about your evolution to where
Speaker:you are now.
Speaker:Give us a little bit of your journey.
Speaker:Yeah. So I've always been involved in communication since my sophomore
Speaker:year in high school.
Speaker:So this has been a very long journey for me.
Speaker:I've realized the other day that I got my PhD 20
Speaker:years ago,
Speaker:I've been in the field for a very,
Speaker:very long time.
Speaker:It is my passion.
Speaker:So I started as an academic.
Speaker:I was a professor at the university of Hawaii,
Speaker:teaching persuasion and argumentation.
Speaker:And although I love Hawaii to visit,
Speaker:it's a very difficult place to live.
Speaker:And it's very difficult if you're a single Polish girl from
Speaker:New York dating was not a thing.
Speaker:And I knew that I needed to move in order to
Speaker:have the things that I wanted,
Speaker:like a husband,
Speaker:a relationship.
Speaker:So I moved back to the mainland and was in corporate
Speaker:for a while.
Speaker:I did market research,
Speaker:but all the while I was still doing a lot of
Speaker:communication things because my boss,
Speaker:my peers all knew that I was really good with messaging
Speaker:and helping people get on stage to speak or help them
Speaker:like figure out how to create a pitch.
Speaker:And so I would always be called into those things,
Speaker:even though they weren't my job,
Speaker:my job had nothing to do with that.
Speaker:I was doing like hardcore market research.
Speaker:And eventually one of my friends said to me,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:Michelle, you just have so much talent in communication.
Speaker:You have so much knowledge.
Speaker:And it's a shame that you are not sharing what you
Speaker:know, with other people who could immensely benefit from it so
Speaker:that they can get their messages out into the world was
Speaker:like, just do something,
Speaker:start a blog,
Speaker:start anything.
Speaker:And I started a blog and originally it was just focused
Speaker:on public speaking.
Speaker:Cause that was a big passion in my life was helping
Speaker:people speak.
Speaker:I think it's because I wasn't very good at it and
Speaker:spend a lot of time in the woodshed making it happen
Speaker:so that I could master that skill.
Speaker:And I'll let you in a little secret.
Speaker:I don't love the speaking industry.
Speaker:I see an industry that undervalues speakers and undervalues the knowledge
Speaker:and experience that they bring.
Speaker:And by undervalue,
Speaker:I mean doesn't pay people.
Speaker:And eventually I was like,
Speaker:Nope, not going to work with speakers anymore.
Speaker:And that's when I happened upon my three word rebellion messaging
Speaker:framework. And I'm like,
Speaker:yeah, this is what I want to do.
Speaker:I want to help amazing business owners who either create transformational
Speaker:results, make amazing products and gifts and candles and whatever else
Speaker:communicate their message so that they can show up and market
Speaker:and reach more people.
Speaker:And so that kind of brings me where I am today.
Speaker:I love that first off.
Speaker:I can't imagine it would be hard to be in Hawaii.
Speaker:I've just have to say,
Speaker:but that's an aside because I understand why you'd want to
Speaker:come back,
Speaker:but I'm just like,
Speaker:Oh no,
Speaker:that sounded pretty good.
Speaker:It's interesting.
Speaker:Cause you get to a point.
Speaker:I think I was eight months in and I started watching
Speaker:the planes every day,
Speaker:leaving the Island and wishing that I was on them.
Speaker:And when I ever,
Speaker:I would go back to the mainland,
Speaker:it was the funniest thing because like I'm the person at
Speaker:the airport in Hawaii who was like,
Speaker:yes, I'm leaving.
Speaker:And then when I was coming back,
Speaker:I was the only person on the plane who was like,
Speaker:Oh man,
Speaker:do I have to go back?
Speaker:Ah, I have to go back to Hawaii.
Speaker:And everybody else is like,
Speaker:Oh, I'm on base.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean,
Speaker:my vision is landing in Maui and getting those beautiful lays
Speaker:and seeing the whales and all that.
Speaker:But then again,
Speaker:that's vacation.
Speaker:That's not living.
Speaker:Yes, I get it.
Speaker:But this mission that you're on,
Speaker:I can't underscore enough how important this is because I feel
Speaker:like in my community and gift biz listeners,
Speaker:I know you're going to feel it because we feel it
Speaker:in ourselves.
Speaker:We have so much passion around what we make,
Speaker:but for some reason,
Speaker:and I don't know that it's just handmade creators either,
Speaker:but it is really prevalent in our communities.
Speaker:It's hard for us to transmit that light and that excitement
Speaker:and that joy with confidence and commitment and all that our
Speaker:products really do deserve.
Speaker:So I'm really excited to get into that.
Speaker:But before we do I'm of course I'm delaying,
Speaker:right. But I think that this will be important.
Speaker:You were mentioning in our conversations earlier about this whole bro
Speaker:marketing, what does that mean?
Speaker:Where has that gotten us or not gotten us?
Speaker:Is this a good place to start?
Speaker:Yes. I love this question.
Speaker:Fro marketing is the use of psychological triggers and hacks things
Speaker:like scarcity and social proof and liking and authority to basically
Speaker:shut down.
Speaker:People's ability to think about a purchasing decision,
Speaker:thereby taking away their consent and really manipulating people and coercing
Speaker:them into buying.
Speaker:And that probably is making your listeners feel like,
Speaker:Ugh, that's a terrible way to market and sell.
Speaker:And I 100% agree.
Speaker:But if you have an on-line store,
Speaker:bro marketing is what is primarily taught as the way to
Speaker:market your business.
Speaker:In fact,
Speaker:it feels like it's the only way to market your business
Speaker:on line and that's not true.
Speaker:And I also think what happens when we're taught a way
Speaker:to market,
Speaker:a way to sell that isn't in alignment with our values,
Speaker:our ethics,
Speaker:our principles.
Speaker:It makes us feel like we're terrible at marketing.
Speaker:We're terrible at sales because we wouldn't want to be marketed
Speaker:to that way ourselves.
Speaker:We've been in that situation and then we're taught to do
Speaker:it. And so it undermines our confidence.
Speaker:And as I was telling you,
Speaker:before we started recording,
Speaker:I had a client recently who had this aha,
Speaker:that kind of shook me to my core because it was,
Speaker:Oh, I thought I was terrible at marketing and sales,
Speaker:but really I'm terrible at borough marketing.
Speaker:And so that type of marketing just cut away at our
Speaker:confidence for showing up and marketing our amazing gifts to the
Speaker:world because we think we're doing it wrong and we're not,
Speaker:Well, this brings to mind,
Speaker:to me,
Speaker:you're talking about online that this is how you're taught online.
Speaker:I also remember going to conferences where there are speakers on
Speaker:stage and how manipulative,
Speaker:not all speakers.
Speaker:Now. I'm not saying that right now,
Speaker:even though I know you're not a fan of the speaking
Speaker:industry overall,
Speaker:but I'm not talking about that.
Speaker:I'm talking about the people who strategically and I'll use the
Speaker:same word you dude,
Speaker:because it came to mind for me to manipulate the audience,
Speaker:right? Like the whole psychological,
Speaker:emotional upswing,
Speaker:and then scarcity,
Speaker:if you don't act right away,
Speaker:because the price is going to go up,
Speaker:the books are going to be sold out.
Speaker:Like whatever classes are going to be filled,
Speaker:any of that,
Speaker:that do it now or don't do it.
Speaker:And that just feels so what is it?
Speaker:Snake oil salesy to me.
Speaker:Yes. No,
Speaker:I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker:The speak to sell phenomenon where you ratchet up the buying
Speaker:tension and it's even worse in person because you see other
Speaker:people running to the back of the room to buy,
Speaker:Do it.
Speaker:I know it's terrible.
Speaker:And then you feel that pressure to like,
Speaker:Ooh, am I missing out on this?
Speaker:And like,
Speaker:you can manipulate the environment,
Speaker:like making it colder.
Speaker:So people feel more anxiety like,
Speaker:Oh Yeah,
Speaker:Ooh. I didn't even know that.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:Like it's way worse in person than it is when you're
Speaker:just like reading a website or getting emails way worse in,
Speaker:well, I have to say you've already given me a realization
Speaker:about this confidence thing,
Speaker:because I also want to share with you that back in
Speaker:my corporate world,
Speaker:I was in sales and marketing.
Speaker:And when I was first learning sales,
Speaker:the idea was you went into a client,
Speaker:you found out what their need was and you made sure
Speaker:to work it so that the product you were selling merges
Speaker:into the solution of their need.
Speaker:If they didn't have a need,
Speaker:you would create one for them.
Speaker:Like tell them the problems with their business.
Speaker:Like this is the way I was taught to do it.
Speaker:Right? Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. So you are manipulating and I'm used,
Speaker:there goes that word again,
Speaker:the events so that you could sell,
Speaker:it was all about sales.
Speaker:And I'm talking about in the late eighties,
Speaker:early nineties timeframe.
Speaker:So I'm dating myself.
Speaker:I know,
Speaker:but this is important or else I would never reveal it.
Speaker:Right. And then what would happen is when a new,
Speaker:and I know this happened in all industries,
Speaker:I have friends who are in the big name,
Speaker:computer industries.
Speaker:We would talk like Friday night drinks,
Speaker:whatever. We'd talk about our sales jobs,
Speaker:right? So I know this happens everywhere.
Speaker:But then when there is a specific product of choice that
Speaker:the company wants to push,
Speaker:then you have to change your need statement because you need
Speaker:to be selling the products that the company wants you to
Speaker:sell, regardless of whether they're the right solutions for your customer.
Speaker:Yeah. And I say all of this because it leads to
Speaker:the idea and it may be,
Speaker:everybody has their little version of this,
Speaker:but that leads to lack of confidence from someone like me,
Speaker:who's forward facing to the client who wants to do the
Speaker:best for the client and the business at the same time.
Speaker:But I don't want to sell something that I know darn
Speaker:well, we either have no solution for them right now,
Speaker:or a better product solution.
Speaker:But don't,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:if I go back and tell the wrong thing,
Speaker:I'm gonna hear about it.
Speaker:Yes. And that,
Speaker:I never thought of it this way before that this is
Speaker:the origins of losing confidence,
Speaker:because it doesn't align with what you feel is the right
Speaker:thing to be doing.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean,
Speaker:as a sales person and when you're a business owner,
Speaker:you're a sales person.
Speaker:You want to give your client what they need,
Speaker:not what somebody else is telling you what they need.
Speaker:So being able to show up and say like,
Speaker:Oh, this is your problem.
Speaker:Oh, this is the solution that you need.
Speaker:And I feel like sales has moved more in that direction,
Speaker:in the corporate landscape now because they realized that it created
Speaker:a lot of resentment and dissatisfied customers and no loyalty.
Speaker:Buyer's remorse it,
Speaker:creating all of that when you're pushing a solution that doesn't
Speaker:actually solve the problem.
Speaker:And then yeah,
Speaker:you feel like you're a terrible salesperson when you know that
Speaker:that's not what they need.
Speaker:They need something else.
Speaker:But the good news is that when we own our own
Speaker:businesses, we steer the ship and we can do what we
Speaker:want. Yes.
Speaker:So that leads us to where most of us are today.
Speaker:But if any of you have had experiences like I have,
Speaker:and you felt less than confident in speaking or in a
Speaker:sales situation,
Speaker:because you've maybe been tainted by past experiences.
Speaker:I think when you recognize where some of this lack of
Speaker:confidence comes from,
Speaker:it's the first step to changing it.
Speaker:Not everybody,
Speaker:not everyone will be this way,
Speaker:but a portion of people who are listening well,
Speaker:you guys know if it resonates with you or not.
Speaker:So bro marketing,
Speaker:having a specific strategy and way to psychologically arrange your material
Speaker:or the way you say something or the way you position
Speaker:things that walk people into purchasing.
Speaker:Right? Yeah.
Speaker:And you're usually like manipulating making them fearful or fear of
Speaker:missing out a lot of,
Speaker:especially more in the services,
Speaker:like poking at people's pain points so hard that they're pretty
Speaker:much paying you just to shut up and stop it versus
Speaker:like, Oh,
Speaker:this is the thing that's going to solve my problem.
Speaker:It's like,
Speaker:no, just take my money.
Speaker:So you go away.
Speaker:Well, so let me challenge this a little bit in our
Speaker:industry. A lot of things that we make are one of
Speaker:a kind or original batches.
Speaker:So there is a level you're either going to get it
Speaker:now or we're going to run out.
Speaker:And that really is true,
Speaker:right? Yes.
Speaker:And that is kind of a scarcity tactic.
Speaker:Right? Buy it now,
Speaker:or it's going away.
Speaker:I love the ones where they're online,
Speaker:digital programs.
Speaker:So they're infinite.
Speaker:But if you don't get it now,
Speaker:you can't have it.
Speaker:And I get cart closing and all that.
Speaker:But in our industry,
Speaker:that can really be true because you may have only made
Speaker:five that looked like this,
Speaker:and you're not going to make more than that because you
Speaker:like making pieces original almost every time in that way.
Speaker:I think that's not real marketing.
Speaker:Cause that's an honest,
Speaker:no way it is,
Speaker:right? Yeah.
Speaker:Not at all.
Speaker:Yes. You are completely correct.
Speaker:Like when something is actually scarce,
Speaker:like you've only made five pieces or you used a,
Speaker:one of a kind stone in the jewelry that you're creating
Speaker:then yeah.
Speaker:There's natural scarcity built in.
Speaker:And when it's real,
Speaker:when it's truthful,
Speaker:then you're in integrity.
Speaker:When you tell people like,
Speaker:Hey, I only have five of these to sell and I
Speaker:won't be able to make any more because maybe you don't
Speaker:have the materials or you have a new idea you want
Speaker:to play with.
Speaker:So think that is being honest and truthful and actually just
Speaker:giving information to people.
Speaker:Yeah. That's also a strategic play.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:that may be the way your product is.
Speaker:Something might only always be one of a kind.
Speaker:If someone wants the exact one,
Speaker:you're showing whoever buys it first gets it.
Speaker:Yep. It seems to me,
Speaker:tell me if you agree with my thinking.
Speaker:It seems to me that if you're using that as a
Speaker:strategy to drive sales,
Speaker:which I don't think is a bad idea when it's honest.
Speaker:Nope. You also explain why it's that way.
Speaker:These are one of a kind based on the materials that
Speaker:we use.
Speaker:I'm thinking of one company in particular and every single piece
Speaker:is a little bit different.
Speaker:Like they have different colors.
Speaker:Like you can look at grays and blacks.
Speaker:You can look at brighter,
Speaker:bold colors.
Speaker:You can look at more citrusy colors,
Speaker:but in those different color streams,
Speaker:every single piece is different.
Speaker:And so I'm thinking when you present that,
Speaker:you still explain why there's only one of each one.
Speaker:So that adds some credibility to what you're talking about.
Speaker:Exactly. And here's the thing like Robert Cialdini in his book
Speaker:influence where a lot of these bro marketing tactics come from,
Speaker:it's a really excellent book,
Speaker:but it's been very abused would say that when something is
Speaker:one of a kind and it makes it scarce and it
Speaker:makes it more valuable.
Speaker:So someone who knows like,
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:there's only one of this.
Speaker:There's only one piece.
Speaker:Then they're going to be more likely to buy and even
Speaker:pay more because it is a scarce resource.
Speaker:Right? So one other thing that comes to mind here,
Speaker:I'm not saying supporting the bro tactics,
Speaker:but twisting some of the tactics a little bit to be
Speaker:acceptable is we all know how often people will say,
Speaker:yeah, I'm going to do that,
Speaker:but I'll do it tomorrow.
Speaker:And then tomorrow comes and you forget.
Speaker:So sometimes some things that I think would fall into bro
Speaker:tactics are really on our part trying to get people who
Speaker:want it to actually take that action because they might still
Speaker:have wanted it,
Speaker:but just forgotten.
Speaker:Yeah. They jumped off your website.
Speaker:The kids are throwing things across the room and they never
Speaker:get back to it.
Speaker:Even though they wanted it.
Speaker:Some of us is just prompting the action to be taken
Speaker:now. Yeah.
Speaker:And I think what's important to keep in mind is like
Speaker:these psychological triggers are actually very neutral.
Speaker:In fact,
Speaker:we rely on them all day long to make decisions,
Speaker:to make purchasing decisions.
Speaker:When you go to the grocery store,
Speaker:you are relying on most of these tactics to get in
Speaker:and out of the store because you're not going to weigh
Speaker:the pros and cons of yogurt,
Speaker:right. We're not there to do that.
Speaker:And so when we start thinking about how we're using the
Speaker:tactic, how we're using scarcity or something,
Speaker:being a one of a kind or sending an extra email
Speaker:to remind people like,
Speaker:Hey, I noticed you were looking at this thing,
Speaker:are you still interested?
Speaker:That is more in service of them making the purchasing decision
Speaker:versus shutting down their critical thinking abilities so that they just
Speaker:buy because they feel fear or FOMO or whatever else.
Speaker:And if you're doing it in service of making a purchasing
Speaker:decision, you're helping people process the message and get to a
Speaker:yay or nay for my ethical principles.
Speaker:There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker:I like that in service to go through in your mind
Speaker:and think,
Speaker:are you being in service of somebody versus your trying to
Speaker:push your product at them?
Speaker:Exactly. So let's transition the conversation to the biggest challenge.
Speaker:I think we all have,
Speaker:and I even have it still from time to time,
Speaker:even though I'm way better now.
Speaker:And that is talking about what our business and our product
Speaker:is when we're introducing ourselves to people or sharing like at
Speaker:a craft show,
Speaker:when people come up to a booth or something and it
Speaker:breaks my heart.
Speaker:When I see people who I'll ask them the questions,
Speaker:cause I go out to shows all the time and they're
Speaker:very demure and shy and timid about the product versus the
Speaker:person who I'm not going to say,
Speaker:being obnoxiously bold,
Speaker:but bold,
Speaker:confident, clear,
Speaker:excited. It's a whole different feeling that you get about the
Speaker:business and buying the product.
Speaker:When you have those two dynamically different ways of communicating,
Speaker:the products could be equal.
Speaker:In fact,
Speaker:the product of the more timid person might even be better,
Speaker:but the messages and getting across,
Speaker:yes, we need help.
Speaker:Dr. Michelle.
Speaker:Okay. So a few things to think about is you hit
Speaker:on something very important.
Speaker:The excitement,
Speaker:I think for me before messaging always tapping into the excitement
Speaker:of creating whatever it is that you create and speaking to
Speaker:people, especially in a one-on-one setting from that excitement to think
Speaker:about like,
Speaker:Oh, this person is right in front of me,
Speaker:they're at my booth at the show.
Speaker:And they're looking at my stuff.
Speaker:This is amazing.
Speaker:And harnessing that to talk about your work,
Speaker:talk about how it was created or how they could wear
Speaker:it or how they can use it in their house from
Speaker:that place of excitement.
Speaker:Because then I think selling becomes natural and easy because if
Speaker:you're excited about your thing,
Speaker:the person you're talking to is going to be excited about
Speaker:what it is you're selling.
Speaker:And then I think the second part of this is also
Speaker:knowing what to say in order to sell.
Speaker:And that comes with your messaging,
Speaker:right? It comes to how you're describing your product.
Speaker:It comes from thinking about your audience or your potential client,
Speaker:why they would be interested in purchasing it and how they
Speaker:could use it in their life.
Speaker:And speaking to that need when we're in communication with them
Speaker:and really making the conversation more about them than about you.
Speaker:One of my,
Speaker:like I love buying jewelry from makers.
Speaker:I have so much jewelry from different makers over the years.
Speaker:And what I love is when I'm buying an in person
Speaker:and they're like,
Speaker:Oh, I see you're looking at that piece.
Speaker:What do you like about it?
Speaker:Ooh. And I'd be like,
Speaker:Oh, you know,
Speaker:the color is just so great.
Speaker:And I have a photo shoot coming up and I really
Speaker:want something that's gonna stand out from the outfit I'm wearing.
Speaker:And I think this might be the thing.
Speaker:And then they can start a conversation from there and maybe
Speaker:they have something else they want to show me and I'd
Speaker:be open for it because now they know what my need
Speaker:is. They had the conversation with me.
Speaker:It's great market research too.
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:Yes. I am a big fan of capturing your client's language
Speaker:and how they talk about your product.
Speaker:Like, you know,
Speaker:at the beginning of this,
Speaker:I was talking about the candle.
Speaker:That's sitting on my desk and I was like,
Speaker:yeah, this candle gives me confidence.
Speaker:I look at it every day and it is a reminder
Speaker:to me that my work has worth now the maker might
Speaker:not even know that,
Speaker:but it's an important insight into the candle that created Well,
Speaker:that also makes me feel,
Speaker:we talk and that's not for this show,
Speaker:but it's going to lead in to what we're talking about
Speaker:here is that it's standard best business practice to ask for
Speaker:product reviews.
Speaker:And usually that is so other people have confidence that you
Speaker:turn around the product quickly.
Speaker:The product is of good quality,
Speaker:all of that.
Speaker:But I'm thinking about it from a different end here with
Speaker:confidence that one of the things you talk about is think
Speaker:about the excitement that you have in making the product and
Speaker:the love of the product,
Speaker:because that allows you to share your story.
Speaker:But also think of some of the reviews,
Speaker:or maybe if you don't have reviews,
Speaker:some of your customers who've told you how much they love
Speaker:the product,
Speaker:because I'm also thinking our confidence is our uncertainty.
Speaker:Whether people,
Speaker:We like what we have,
Speaker:Like our continuing questioning of is my product really any good.
Speaker:And that comes out to me more than anything when see
Speaker:people who are a little more timid,
Speaker:they're new.
Speaker:So they don't have a lot of experience in those successes
Speaker:yet, but they're also then inhibiting getting to that place because
Speaker:they're representing themselves so much less than what they all are
Speaker:Already are.
Speaker:Yeah. And one of the things I tell my clients all
Speaker:the time is to create what I call a love file,
Speaker:which is basically taking those positive reviews,
Speaker:taking nice emails that you get from people and putting it
Speaker:in one place so that when you are feeling like,
Speaker:Ooh, maybe my work,
Speaker:isn't all that good.
Speaker:Like, I don't know if I should be selling this.
Speaker:Even you can go into your love file and remind yourself
Speaker:that your work has value.
Speaker:It has meaning it touches people's lives.
Speaker:It makes their life better in some way.
Speaker:And that way you can kind of tap back into that
Speaker:enthusiasm and excitement about the products you're selling.
Speaker:Yes. I'll also say that that file doesn't have to be
Speaker:huge because when you have one or two people who have
Speaker:said that they appreciate and love your product and probably not
Speaker:your friends and family one or two strangers,
Speaker:then there are more of them out there.
Speaker:Yes. Because those are the people you know about.
Speaker:Right. There's a whole host of people that you have no
Speaker:idea that have been to your website,
Speaker:or maybe they purchased something small from you and didn't leave
Speaker:a review,
Speaker:but they love it.
Speaker:And they use it every day.
Speaker:So we've talked.
Speaker:What about like the mental state of if someone comes up
Speaker:or you've been approached,
Speaker:whether you're at a networking meeting,
Speaker:you're at a farmer's market table,
Speaker:you're at a cocktail party and someone says,
Speaker:Oh, well,
Speaker:what do you do?
Speaker:And you go into,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:they call it an elevator speech.
Speaker:I like to call it an introduction message.
Speaker:Yeah. But any tips for that,
Speaker:just like from zero to talking about your business of how
Speaker:to establish that confidence,
Speaker:We're going to get Dr.
Speaker:Michelle's tips on how to establish confidence when talking about your
Speaker:business right after this quick break.
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Speaker:Yes. The big thing is to know what you want to
Speaker:say. Right?
Speaker:So preplan it.
Speaker:Yeah. Already know your words.
Speaker:Yes. Especially like you're at an event or you're doing like
Speaker:some online networking and people ask you like,
Speaker:well, what do you do?
Speaker:What do you create?
Speaker:And you're like,
Speaker:well, I make jewelry.
Speaker:And it's nice.
Speaker:Like people seem to like it.
Speaker:This is exactly what people do.
Speaker:Dr. Michelle.
Speaker:Exactly. Versus saying something like I creeped jewelry that are statement
Speaker:pieces for bold women who want to show up fully for
Speaker:their lives.
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:That's perfect.
Speaker:Right. Because then if it's the right person,
Speaker:they're going to be like,
Speaker:Oh, what does your jewelry look like?
Speaker:Like I'm a bold woman.
Speaker:Show me what I've got.
Speaker:And we try to wordsmith this like crazy and come up
Speaker:with all these fancy words that nobody even understands or knows
Speaker:what you're talking about.
Speaker:And what I heard you just say were nice.
Speaker:I should've been writing it down as we went,
Speaker:but all of them are easy words,
Speaker:but they lead to,
Speaker:like, you just covered all of it.
Speaker:What someone makes,
Speaker:who it's for and why it's different.
Speaker:Yeah. You just did all three of those right there.
Speaker:Yes. And it should be really short,
Speaker:really conversational and a little curiosity provoking because now when I'm
Speaker:talking about statement pieces for bold women who want to show
Speaker:up confidently in their lives,
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:Oh, well,
Speaker:I'm that show me,
Speaker:give me some examples.
Speaker:I want to see it now because now I'm interested and
Speaker:you probably ought to be wearing one of your pieces.
Speaker:Yes. Oh,
Speaker:please. Especially if you're in a business environment where you're representing
Speaker:your business,
Speaker:because then you could say,
Speaker:Oh, like this piece,
Speaker:and then you can tell a story about that piece or
Speaker:whatever it would be.
Speaker:And then it's a conversation and it's not selling.
Speaker:Yeah. I work with like a lot of service providers and
Speaker:with the three word rebellion framework,
Speaker:it's something like one of my clients,
Speaker:hers is like profit without worry.
Speaker:And so when she introduces herself,
Speaker:she's like,
Speaker:Oh, I help business owners to profit without worry.
Speaker:And immediately be like,
Speaker:Oh, tell me about that.
Speaker:What does that look like?
Speaker:Like I worry about money,
Speaker:right? So you're always wanting to create some kind of conversation
Speaker:because I feel like most elevator pitches they're dead ends.
Speaker:Right. You don't know where to go.
Speaker:It's like interesting.
Speaker:Always think about like,
Speaker:how can I say this in a way that's intriguing,
Speaker:curiosity provoking.
Speaker:That's going to make the right person say,
Speaker:Oh yeah,
Speaker:give me your card.
Speaker:I want to see your shop.
Speaker:Where is it located?
Speaker:Right. Like that's what you're going for.
Speaker:It's very interesting.
Speaker:Cause I have my little spiel that I do when you're
Speaker:familiar With it.
Speaker:It comes out different each and every time because you're just
Speaker:talking naturally.
Speaker:But that doesn't happen until you say it sometimes over and
Speaker:over again.
Speaker:Yeah. So often what'll happen to me is people ask me
Speaker:what I do and I'll say,
Speaker:well, I help women transition from a product that they made
Speaker:as a hobby,
Speaker:into a profitable business.
Speaker:And inevitably what I'll always get is someone.
Speaker:If they don't make anything,
Speaker:if they make things,
Speaker:they'll tell me about their hobby.
Speaker:Yeah. Or they'll tell me about a cousin,
Speaker:a friend,
Speaker:a mother.
Speaker:Like, there's always a story that comes up.
Speaker:Yeah. And then we can talk about that.
Speaker:Yeah. Because the goal is to establish the relationship,
Speaker:to keep the conversation,
Speaker:going to learn about the person in front of you.
Speaker:And then you can decide like,
Speaker:Oh, I have something that might be great for them that
Speaker:I would love to show them.
Speaker:Or maybe they're just not the right fit.
Speaker:Maybe you're not talking to a bold woman or they don't
Speaker:know anyone who has a maker business.
Speaker:And that's okay too.
Speaker:And we were starting to merge into networking here,
Speaker:but then,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:when to stop talking and ask about them to not override
Speaker:the conversation.
Speaker:Yes, exactly.
Speaker:Because That is a no-no of selling also,
Speaker:no matter what environment you're in.
Speaker:Exactly. I was talking to somebody in my VIP group just
Speaker:yesterday and she was saying that she had a meeting recently
Speaker:and this was like an extension of a virtual chamber of
Speaker:commerce meeting or something like that.
Speaker:They didn't get together obviously in person yet.
Speaker:Yeah. But online.
Speaker:And she's like,
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:45 minutes.
Speaker:All he did was talk about himself.
Speaker:And I'm looking at things saying,
Speaker:I have a lot of stuff to do.
Speaker:How do I get out of this conversation?
Speaker:Not one thing was about her.
Speaker:And then at the end,
Speaker:the guy had the nerve to say,
Speaker:Oh, and she was happened to be in a gift basket
Speaker:industry. And she said,
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:And I use a gift basket company down the way from
Speaker:me all like not even anything to do with her business
Speaker:at all.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it was like so crazy.
Speaker:I hate,
Speaker:yeah. It's like conversations like that.
Speaker:They're not great for business.
Speaker:They're not good in dating.
Speaker:No, no one wants to be the person who talks about
Speaker:themselves. It's not all about you.
Speaker:Like don't get overconfident because that may be where it goes.
Speaker:Like, you know,
Speaker:when you're feeling really good,
Speaker:you there's a place to back off.
Speaker:Yeah. Exactly.
Speaker:Or give and take,
Speaker:because if someone's really interested,
Speaker:they'll talk more about it.
Speaker:Obviously that's different if you're at a show because the intention
Speaker:is to be talking about your product.
Speaker:I'm curious about the three word rebellion.
Speaker:Tell us about that.
Speaker:Yeah. So the three word rebellion is this concept that I
Speaker:developed to help you basically position your business in a way
Speaker:that makes other people talk about it.
Speaker:It's essentially a message for your audience,
Speaker:for your right clients that demands attention.
Speaker:It makes them curious.
Speaker:And how I developed this was I was in my transition
Speaker:from speaking to doing the work that I do now.
Speaker:And I was at this crossroads of,
Speaker:I recorded at a podcast episode.
Speaker:It was my last one for the year.
Speaker:And I was like,
Speaker:I can't talk about this stuff anymore.
Speaker:Like I know I am dun dun dun dun.
Speaker:And I didn't know what was next,
Speaker:but I felt like there was this idea percolating and what
Speaker:I observed because ultimately like I look for patterns and it's
Speaker:the way I do my work is like spotting patterns and
Speaker:noticing trends.
Speaker:And I noticed that social movements like black lives matter,
Speaker:me too.
Speaker:What they do particularly well is summarize the change they want
Speaker:to create in just a few words.
Speaker:And then I noticed the books that I love to read
Speaker:and the entrepreneurs that I love to follow,
Speaker:like Simon Sinek and start with why or Mel Robbins in
Speaker:the five,
Speaker:second rule,
Speaker:they were doing the exact same thing they were saying,
Speaker:here's my change that I want to create.
Speaker:This is the flag that I'm flying.
Speaker:This is what I'm showing up with every day.
Speaker:So I applied questions from social movements,
Speaker:like, what are you rebelling against?
Speaker:What change do you want to create?
Speaker:And from there,
Speaker:I was able to use my pattern,
Speaker:spotting research analysis,
Speaker:and quickly create these three word messages.
Speaker:Or actually they can be two to five words and help
Speaker:people position their business more from that place of what is
Speaker:the change?
Speaker:What is the result that my client experiences when they use
Speaker:my service or when they buy my products.
Speaker:And that is far more sticky and far more memorable for
Speaker:people then the regular elevator pitch or any other kind of
Speaker:positioning statement that you can,
Speaker:I have been thinking about a little bit of an idea
Speaker:and I'm not going to say it here live yet because
Speaker:it's still running around.
Speaker:Okay. But it's exactly along those lines.
Speaker:So I want to tell you after we're done and I'm
Speaker:not trying to not tell everybody who's listening right now,
Speaker:because I want to develop it a little bit so that
Speaker:it comes out in the way I really want it to
Speaker:come out.
Speaker:But so this is really interesting,
Speaker:but I'm going to swing it back to products.
Speaker:So if you made Michelle,
Speaker:you don't know this,
Speaker:but my very favorite thing in the whole world is candles.
Speaker:Well, candles and snow,
Speaker:but no,
Speaker:one's making the snow.
Speaker:So we're going to go with candles.
Speaker:Okay. So how could you see three word rebellion working for
Speaker:candles? Let's just brainstorm it a little bit.
Speaker:So this will be kind of fun.
Speaker:This is just a test.
Speaker:This is dosed to toast.
Speaker:Yeah. Well,
Speaker:I'm thinking about the candle that I have in front of
Speaker:me and what it does for me.
Speaker:It really helps me change my mindset.
Speaker:It gives me good energy and they have a lot of
Speaker:candles with these affirmations that are written on them.
Speaker:So if I was creating a three-word rebellion,
Speaker:I would want something around how this candle like changes your
Speaker:mind or creates positive energy.
Speaker:So you can go out and kick butt in life.
Speaker:So that's the kind of the flavor of the messaging I
Speaker:would be looking at for a candle company that has this
Speaker:like very positive affirmation oriented message.
Speaker:Right? Yeah.
Speaker:And every company obviously should be different.
Speaker:Yeah. Because if this three word rebellion concept needs to be
Speaker:focused, specially on you like Mel with her five second rule,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:there are other motivational coaches out there,
Speaker:right. And each person is a little bit different.
Speaker:So I like what you're saying is what is the benefit
Speaker:that you get?
Speaker:What you just said with candles,
Speaker:for me with candles,
Speaker:I'm in the office right now.
Speaker:I'm not at my home office,
Speaker:but when I'm at my home office,
Speaker:I always have a candle going because it helps me feel
Speaker:energized because of the scent.
Speaker:And I'm more productive.
Speaker:Yeah. Something like ignite your productivity could be the change that
Speaker:your candle is creating.
Speaker:Right. It's igniting your productivity.
Speaker:So that was like the top of mind thing that kind
Speaker:of popped in my head.
Speaker:That's a beautiful example.
Speaker:Yeah. And I'm thinking,
Speaker:but you want a three word rebellion that represents your business
Speaker:overall, right?
Speaker:Yes. Oh,
Speaker:absolutely. That's where you're going to write.
Speaker:Not just one candle or one situation,
Speaker:but your business overall.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:this would cause some thought and some brainstorming sessions for sure.
Speaker:But I totally understand what you're talking about and when you've
Speaker:landed on what that is,
Speaker:let me share one of mine.
Speaker:Okay. And I don't know if I said this to you
Speaker:before Dr.
Speaker:Michelle, and this is not really what it is,
Speaker:but it gives you an example.
Speaker:So I have named our audience here.
Speaker:Gifters bakers,
Speaker:crafters, and makers.
Speaker:So if ever those words are put together,
Speaker:people think of me.
Speaker:Yeah. But that's the intent of what you're going for.
Speaker:Yeah. And not just your business name,
Speaker:but if they see those words,
Speaker:there's some type of meaning and context around it and it
Speaker:funnels back to you.
Speaker:Exactly. It's really interesting because that message can be more sticky
Speaker:than your name,
Speaker:like before COVID I was at an event and someone across
Speaker:the room screamed,
Speaker:Hey, you're the three word rebellion woman didn't know my name,
Speaker:but knew the three word rebellion because that was like,
Speaker:got them wondering like,
Speaker:Oh, well what are my three words?
Speaker:And how could I use this in my business?
Speaker:So they knew what I looked like.
Speaker:They knew what my message was.
Speaker:No idea what my name is.
Speaker:And that is what you're going for.
Speaker:Like, you want words,
Speaker:a message associated with your business,
Speaker:with your brand.
Speaker:And then that way,
Speaker:when somebody says,
Speaker:Oh, I got this beautiful candle.
Speaker:And you're like,
Speaker:yeah, it really helps me ignite my productivity.
Speaker:And they go,
Speaker:Ooh, I want to be more productive.
Speaker:Who was that company?
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:It makes so much sense.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:I want you guys all to be thinking about this.
Speaker:So what do you tell them?
Speaker:Listen to the book.
Speaker:I think maybe we're going to need to have the book.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:So the book takes you through the process.
Speaker:There's some mindset stuff at the beginning about really stepping into
Speaker:this role as a rebel leader,
Speaker:somebody who's leading with a bigger message and that's a very
Speaker:uncomfortable thing for people.
Speaker:So I hope you work through that.
Speaker:And then we go into the exercises.
Speaker:So there are lots of writing prompts.
Speaker:The book is really almost like a workbook.
Speaker:So there are writing prompts where you do what I call
Speaker:free writing and free writing is uninhibited.
Speaker:You just want to sit down and pour your brain out
Speaker:on paper,
Speaker:do not edit misspelled things.
Speaker:Swear if that's your thing,
Speaker:like just empty your brain out.
Speaker:When you look at these questions,
Speaker:because that's going to give you the words that help you
Speaker:formulate your three word rebellion.
Speaker:So you work through those prompts and then you're able to
Speaker:create a word bank because it's always fascinating when I do
Speaker:this analysis,
Speaker:like I was working with a client once and she literally
Speaker:used the word joy 50 times in her writing.
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:so joy is really important for you.
Speaker:And she's like,
Speaker:Oh, how did you know?
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:you used it like a million times.
Speaker:So we're able to kind of see these patterns and what's
Speaker:important and then start unearthing it.
Speaker:Because the thing is like,
Speaker:I believe your three word rebellion,
Speaker:your message already exists.
Speaker:It's in things that you've been saying for ever.
Speaker:And then once you kind of get your words together,
Speaker:I give you some different frameworks of like,
Speaker:do you want to have a three-word rebellion?
Speaker:That's a battle cry.
Speaker:That's more active something,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:like ignite your productivity for,
Speaker:for our candle maker.
Speaker:Or do you want to have something that's a little bit
Speaker:more abstract,
Speaker:but curiosity provoking something like the five second rule.
Speaker:So I walk you through that whole process to how to
Speaker:get your words.
Speaker:And then the final wrap-up is like,
Speaker:how do you start using this thing?
Speaker:Well, that circles back to what we were talking about in
Speaker:the beginning,
Speaker:like how do you introduce yourself and your business and talk
Speaker:about your business with a strong sense of confidence that sir,
Speaker:like this conversation kind of circles all back with the three
Speaker:word rebellion.
Speaker:Yeah. Once you have those words and you know,
Speaker:that people respond,
Speaker:it's aligned with you,
Speaker:what you're doing in the world.
Speaker:For instance,
Speaker:I just finished work with a spa owner and she's a
Speaker:brick and mortar,
Speaker:but she like in COVID started creating spa kits to send
Speaker:to people.
Speaker:Her business is very values driven.
Speaker:Like she's very social justice oriented.
Speaker:So we created the three word rebellion that was actually six,
Speaker:but it had repeating words that was like,
Speaker:invest in your beauty,
Speaker:invest in your values.
Speaker:And when she started,
Speaker:like, she was like,
Speaker:yup, that's it.
Speaker:That's my message.
Speaker:That's what I want people to know about us.
Speaker:That you can get beauty products.
Speaker:You can have an experience that are in line with your
Speaker:values. And as soon as she started implementing that,
Speaker:her online sales started to take off because people knew what
Speaker:she was about.
Speaker:And it just had this clear promise to it that was
Speaker:attractive to her right.
Speaker:Clients. I love it.
Speaker:It then separates her from anybody else.
Speaker:Who's a spa owner.
Speaker:There's a distinction.
Speaker:It's a different way of looking at the business.
Speaker:Yes. I see so much the value of that.
Speaker:Yes. Yeah.
Speaker:Because I mean,
Speaker:honestly I think she's probably one of the only spa owners
Speaker:who has such a defined position and message that if you're
Speaker:like, Oh,
Speaker:I really don't like patronizing these spas that don't treat their
Speaker:workers as well.
Speaker:And don't use,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:amazing products.
Speaker:Then you see a message like that.
Speaker:And you're like,
Speaker:Oh yes.
Speaker:Please tell me more.
Speaker:Give me more,
Speaker:Not that you want to point out the questionable things of
Speaker:others. You want to point out the strengths of yourself,
Speaker:but it naturally leads to,
Speaker:well, your company has this.
Speaker:What do other companies have or not have,
Speaker:which is the reason why they come back to you.
Speaker:Yeah. And sometimes people already know,
Speaker:like they know that their nail technician isn't paid well.
Speaker:And so then they start looking,
Speaker:they're like,
Speaker:Oh, you're here talking about paying a living wage and helping
Speaker:these women like accelerate their career.
Speaker:That is radically different than any other spa that's out there.
Speaker:And you know,
Speaker:sometimes they do also have nail technicians who are paid well,
Speaker:but they're not talking about it.
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:So sometimes it doesn't mean that you have to be the
Speaker:only one who has this,
Speaker:but you are putting it front and center and talking about
Speaker:it. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. Because that's where your strength lies.
Speaker:That's where your confidence is.
Speaker:And it was so easy for her to kind of dismiss
Speaker:like, Oh,
Speaker:nobody's going to care about that.
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:Oh, hold up.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:There are lots of people who care about that.
Speaker:Like let's not dismiss what makes you different as something that
Speaker:nobody's going to care about.
Speaker:So I think What I'm hearing from you,
Speaker:Dr. Michelle,
Speaker:to summarize everything that we've been talking about is the gateway
Speaker:to gaining confidence is more confidence.
Speaker:We have confidence in the products that we make.
Speaker:We have confidence in the skills and we're very proud of
Speaker:our product.
Speaker:It comes to when we open our mouth,
Speaker:the problem start,
Speaker:right? What I'm hearing from you is that gateway first starts
Speaker:with figuring out what the words are going to be the
Speaker:three word rebellion,
Speaker:for sure,
Speaker:but also who you are and what you present as I
Speaker:define it,
Speaker:your introduction message.
Speaker:So that when,
Speaker:cause you're not planning on going into an elevator and telling
Speaker:everybody on the elevator,
Speaker:what you do,
Speaker:someone will ask you.
Speaker:So you need to be ready in any of your situations.
Speaker:Pre-thought and pre-planning even word for word initially what that would
Speaker:be, right.
Speaker:That would be the first thing.
Speaker:And then the second thing is,
Speaker:and they can be done together is what would be your
Speaker:three word rebellion,
Speaker:because that brings you to a deeper level with your business.
Speaker:Yes. And I would add an extra step and I love
Speaker:this. This comes from Mel Robbins.
Speaker:She actually says that the only thing that helps us boost
Speaker:our confidence is to act,
Speaker:to do the thing.
Speaker:So it means going out there and practicing and seeing like,
Speaker:Ooh, how are people responding to this?
Speaker:Are they responding?
Speaker:Are they not responding?
Speaker:What do I need to tweak here?
Speaker:And really embrace that?
Speaker:Like, let's get into action.
Speaker:Let's try this out.
Speaker:Let's experiment and see what works and what doesn't because yeah.
Speaker:Action does breed confidence.
Speaker:So get yourself like once you know what you want to
Speaker:say, start trying it out and tweaking it and it will
Speaker:change. Yes.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:Cause you want something that rolls off of your tongue very
Speaker:easily. It's in words that you normally use.
Speaker:And once you start using words,
Speaker:like, let's say your three word rebellion are words you normally
Speaker:put together because you landed on something so amazing.
Speaker:These words have never been together before and they make so
Speaker:much sense.
Speaker:Yes. It might take a little while for those three words
Speaker:to feel natural to you,
Speaker:but eventually they'll just roll off If your tongue yeah.
Speaker:It comes from practice and using it.
Speaker:But if you know that people are leaning forward and wanting
Speaker:to know more,
Speaker:after you say it,
Speaker:you've got something like keep going.
Speaker:Yep. You're so right.
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:Dr. Michelle,
Speaker:where can people go and learn more about you and also
Speaker:where could they go for the three word rebellion book?
Speaker:Yeah. So if you go to the number three,
Speaker:w R book.com
Speaker:that takes you to all the places that you can possibly
Speaker:buy the book.
Speaker:And if you're just curious about book and you just want
Speaker:to taste her to see if this is the right thing
Speaker:for you,
Speaker:you can also go to three word rebellion.com
Speaker:and there's like a free taster to do a couple of
Speaker:the exercises and really kind of suss out like,
Speaker:Hey, is this the thing that I want to do?
Speaker:And for everything else I'm over at Dr.
Speaker:Michelle mazer.com
Speaker:and I love Instagram.
Speaker:So if you are on Instagram and you hear this,
Speaker:send me a DM,
Speaker:I'm at Dr.
Speaker:Michelle Mazer,
Speaker:tell me what you took away.
Speaker:Cause I would love to hear from you,
Speaker:What would be the single message that you would give to
Speaker:our listeners here about what we've talked about today?
Speaker:Ooh, this is such a difficult,
Speaker:but yummy question.
Speaker:We've got that part Person who's listening,
Speaker:who they know that they've been the timid one.
Speaker:They've seen other people being much more confident in they're just
Speaker:like, Oh,
Speaker:like I just cannot seem to get myself to do it.
Speaker:Ah, I would tell them your work matters.
Speaker:It is deeply worth while.
Speaker:And remind yourself of that on a daily basis.
Speaker:Speak about that from that place of excitement,
Speaker:for why you do your work and then create that message
Speaker:that engages other people,
Speaker:but just know that your work matters and it's worthy of
Speaker:attention. Beautiful.
Speaker:Thank you so much,
Speaker:Dr. Michelle,
Speaker:and I'm going to send those words back to you.
Speaker:Your work matters so much because if we get just a
Speaker:couple of people changing the way they're showing up for the
Speaker:world, that will be amazing.
Speaker:Thank you so much for being on the show today.
Speaker:Oh, you are so welcome.
Speaker:Sue. The five word rebellion.
Speaker:Have you started thinking about your words yet?
Speaker:It's worth taking the time to consider what they are for
Speaker:you. It can set your business on fire.
Speaker:Think of Mel Robbins and what happened to her after the
Speaker:five second rule caught on and to think this was a
Speaker:side thought that she almost forgot to bring up in her
Speaker:Ted talk.
Speaker:It literally changed her future.
Speaker:Next week.
Speaker:We're turning our attention to the world of e-commerce websites,
Speaker:converting viewers to customers and more ready and waiting queued up
Speaker:for next Monday morning.
Speaker:Thanks so much for spending time with me today.
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Speaker:So it's a great way to pay it forward and now
Speaker:be safe and well.
Speaker:And I'll see you next week on the gift biz unwrapped
Speaker:podcast. Last I want to make sure you're familiar with my
Speaker:free Facebook group called gift is breeze.
Speaker:It's a place where we all gather and our community to
Speaker:support each other.
Speaker:Got a really fun post in there.
Speaker:That's my favorite of the week.
Speaker:I have to say where I invite all of you to
Speaker:share what you're doing to show pictures of your product,
Speaker:to show what you're working on for the week to get
Speaker:reaction from other people and just for fun,
Speaker:because we all get to see the wonderful products that everybody
Speaker:in the community is making my favorite post every single week,
Speaker:without doubt.
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