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Gift biz unwrapped episode 321.
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Speaker:we're going to be addressing a frustration,
Speaker:common with a lot of businesses.
Speaker:You've got your website up and running,
Speaker:but no sales are coming in.
Speaker:The natural tendency in this situation is to create an offer.
Speaker:And most of the time it's a product discount and you
Speaker:promote it over on social.
Speaker:And yes,
Speaker:you may get some sales this way,
Speaker:but do you really want to always have to discount your
Speaker:products to prompt people to buy this is taking money right
Speaker:out of your pocket.
Speaker:What if there was a way to direct more traffic to
Speaker:that fabulous website of yours without having to sacrifice your margin?
Speaker:And it gets better?
Speaker:What if I told you that the work you put in
Speaker:doing this lasts a hundred times longer than putting up a
Speaker:Facebook or Instagram post?
Speaker:It almost sounds too good to be true,
Speaker:but listen in and you'll see that it's right within your
Speaker:grasp today.
Speaker:It is my pleasure to introduce you to Kate Kordsmeier.
Speaker:Kate is a recovering workaholic,
Speaker:perfectionist who values relationships and wellness as much as strategy.
Speaker:She's been a writer her entire life.
Speaker:And for the past 11 years has made a living from
Speaker:her words,
Speaker:following her passions and interests first and always she's an old
Speaker:soul who loves to read cook,
Speaker:listen to old music,
Speaker:do crossword puzzles and sit with her friends and family in
Speaker:the beautiful outdoors,
Speaker:surrounded by good food and drink.
Speaker:She empowers women with actionable advice and inspirational content to turn
Speaker:their purpose into profits with an online business that reclaims their
Speaker:joy, power and freedom without sacrificing their health,
Speaker:self care relationships and family sanity and spirituality.
Speaker:Kate, you are my kind of gal.
Speaker:Welcome to the gift biz on wrapped podcasts.
Speaker:Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker:It's so funny hearing your bio read like that.
Speaker:And I'm thinking I sound like I'm 86 years Old.
Speaker:No, but you know,
Speaker:part of me just like wants to not even do this
Speaker:interview and let's just go and sit outside and hang out
Speaker:with a glass of wine and do a puzzle or something.
Speaker:Right. Doesn't that sound so good.
Speaker:Amazing. Yes.
Speaker:And honestly,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I guess those things were associated with things that as you
Speaker:get older,
Speaker:but right now we're running so fast.
Speaker:We need that stuff to balance us out.
Speaker:Exactly. Yes.
Speaker:I think all the things that helped me just slow down
Speaker:and be present and just remember that I have a life
Speaker:to enjoy not just a business To run.
Speaker:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:So those pleasant things like candles,
Speaker:which is going to lead me into my traditional question here.
Speaker:And that is if you were to describe yourself through a
Speaker:motivational candle,
Speaker:just to give us a feel for who you are in
Speaker:a different way,
Speaker:what color would your candle be and what would be a
Speaker:quote or a saying on that candle?
Speaker:Okay. So I've been thinking about this and I think that
Speaker:I'm going to play really simple.
Speaker:It's going to be a white candle that says white space
Speaker:on it and is just that reminder of every time I
Speaker:look at it to like,
Speaker:stop what I'm doing and think about how could I get
Speaker:more white space into my calendar and into my days and
Speaker:just exhale and relax.
Speaker:Seriously. I'm not even kidding you when you said white space.
Speaker:I just took a deep breath,
Speaker:right? When you were saying it.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:Like we need to fill in all the empty spaces with
Speaker:something we need to stop doing that.
Speaker:For sure.
Speaker:You had mentioned before I press record that you were on
Speaker:a Facebook live and I do Facebook lives on Thursday morning
Speaker:within my private group.
Speaker:And I've been doing website reviews lately.
Speaker:And we talk about like,
Speaker:you don't need to fill up every single white space on
Speaker:your website with copy or with photos.
Speaker:Like let people take a little bit of a break too.
Speaker:Yeah. Break to the eye for sure.
Speaker:Yeah. Just like overstimulated everywhere.
Speaker:Anyway. So let's move forward with our conversation and share with
Speaker:me a little bit about how you got to what you're
Speaker:doing today.
Speaker:Yeah. You mentioned that I have been a writer my life,
Speaker:and of course that was true when I was just doing
Speaker:it for personal enjoyment,
Speaker:but I was a journalist for about a decade after I
Speaker:went to journalism school.
Speaker:And I actually first I started in corporate copywriting and I
Speaker:lasted in corporate America for all of four months before I
Speaker:was like,
Speaker:I can not live there.
Speaker:You Got smart.
Speaker:Fast, Wanted to have be a freelance journalist when I first
Speaker:graduated. But then all my friends got real jobs with health
Speaker:insurance and stuff.
Speaker:And so I panicked and got one,
Speaker:two, and then immediately knew this is not for me.
Speaker:I quit my job and started a freelance journalism business.
Speaker:And I did that for about eight years before I ended
Speaker:up wanting to make another pivot.
Speaker:And that was to start a blog.
Speaker:There was a lot happening that kind of led up to
Speaker:that moment.
Speaker:But I started my wellness blog and at the end of
Speaker:2015, after I did that for a few years and turned
Speaker:it into a six-figure business,
Speaker:I started getting asked from people all the time,
Speaker:like, how are you doing this?
Speaker:I don't understand how a blog makes money what's going on
Speaker:here. And so I launched a course called the six-figure blog
Speaker:academy where I teach people how to grow and monetize a
Speaker:blog. And then that kind of led me to the next
Speaker:thing, which was launching other courses and getting more into the
Speaker:kind of online entrepreneurship strategy,
Speaker:business coaching space.
Speaker:So now I still have my blog,
Speaker:but I also do this business and have several courses and
Speaker:group coaching programs and a podcast and things all about business
Speaker:strategy. Wonderful.
Speaker:So what types of businesses then are you seeing are gravitating
Speaker:to also including a blog or is it a business onto
Speaker:itself? Well,
Speaker:I guess is my answer because I think that there's this
Speaker:big paradigm shift that's been brewing in the online world for
Speaker:a while.
Speaker:And I feel like I'm a broken record saying it,
Speaker:but hopefully,
Speaker:maybe this is the first time your listeners are hearing it.
Speaker:And that's that all websites are blogs and all businesses need
Speaker:one. Even if you are a brick and mortar business or
Speaker:you have a service-based business or retail or e-commerce,
Speaker:whatever you need a website.
Speaker:And I believe in 2021,
Speaker:if that website has any content on it,
Speaker:it's a blog.
Speaker:And that's whether or not like you cringe at the word
Speaker:influencer, or you're like,
Speaker:I'm not a blogger.
Speaker:What are you talking about?
Speaker:Blogs are your home base.
Speaker:They're how people find you.
Speaker:And so what I have learned through my blogging journey is
Speaker:that creating content online is the fastest way to show up
Speaker:in Google search results,
Speaker:which will bring more people to your website,
Speaker:which will help you sell more products or whatever your goal
Speaker:is at the end of that road.
Speaker:So I could be selling more products.
Speaker:You could monetize the platform itself,
Speaker:which is more of the kind of like traditional blogging route.
Speaker:But even if you're not interested in going that way,
Speaker:I believe that all businesses will sell exponentially more products.
Speaker:If they have a blog,
Speaker:I couldn't agree with you more,
Speaker:but I will admit to you that I'm going to say
Speaker:it was two eight,
Speaker:2009. Maybe something like that.
Speaker:When I would be out at trade shows,
Speaker:people would come to our booth and I sell also a
Speaker:physical product,
Speaker:but people would come to our booth and they'd say that
Speaker:they were a blogger as their business.
Speaker:And I still didn't get it.
Speaker:I really didn't understand.
Speaker:But as I've gotten more sophisticated in the online world,
Speaker:I do understand much more.
Speaker:And I think it's interesting.
Speaker:And I bring this up because I think our listeners may
Speaker:not totally understand this either because you kind of think that
Speaker:a blog is one of those old wordpress.com
Speaker:sites. That just is more of like a journaling site.
Speaker:Yeah, That's what I always say is a lot of people
Speaker:still think of blogs as,
Speaker:as sort of like glorified my space pages where there's just
Speaker:sort of like a chronological diary and that is so not
Speaker:what successful blogs at least are today and do certainly don't
Speaker:have to be that.
Speaker:I wouldn't even recommend it.
Speaker:If you actually do want to turn your blog into a
Speaker:profitable business,
Speaker:recommend The platform or that structure or both.
Speaker:I do recommend WordPress exclusively for all websites.
Speaker:If you care about SEO and being find-able through search,
Speaker:then you definitely should be on wordpress.org,
Speaker:Word brushes,
Speaker:not.com.org. Exactly.
Speaker:You want your website to be hate cords,
Speaker:myra.com, not Kate kordsmeier.wordpress.com.
Speaker:And you want it to be self hosted,
Speaker:which is the big difference between the.com
Speaker:and the.org.
Speaker:I wish they would have named it something different because it
Speaker:confuses the heck out of people.
Speaker:Right? Truly,
Speaker:it's more about self hosting,
Speaker:which just means you have like unlimited control over what you
Speaker:could do to your site,
Speaker:how you can make it look all of the details.
Speaker:Whereas if you're using the free wordpress.com,
Speaker:it's hosted there and you're very limited in functionality.
Speaker:And I don't think you can even set up like a
Speaker:shopping cart or anything through.com.
Speaker:No, I don't think so either.
Speaker:I started with.com.
Speaker:So, so,
Speaker:so long ago,
Speaker:and I still have my account up because I have one
Speaker:article on there that still does so great,
Speaker:but I don't think I've even looked at it for 10
Speaker:years. Something like that.
Speaker:It just sits out there.
Speaker:It does its thing and that's fine.
Speaker:And whatever,
Speaker:or just again,
Speaker:to clarify and make sure that everyone who's with us here
Speaker:is on the same page,
Speaker:define what a blog site would look like.
Speaker:And then we're going to gravitate in specifically to product based
Speaker:businesses. Yeah.
Speaker:Okay. I think now all websites,
Speaker:you have your homepage of your website and then you would
Speaker:probably have something in your menu navigation that says blog,
Speaker:what somebody would click,
Speaker:that they would be taken to a page where there's multiple
Speaker:posts of different types of content.
Speaker:And so to me,
Speaker:blogging is really more like content marketing.
Speaker:It's a marketing strategy to get organic leads rather than having
Speaker:to pay for ads or spend a lot of time on
Speaker:social media or some of the other ways that we think
Speaker:of marketing today,
Speaker:blogging is just a form of content marketing.
Speaker:So how do people then if they don't have a physical
Speaker:product, how are people making money with their blogs?
Speaker:Okay. So there's three main ways that people make money with
Speaker:their blogs when you're monetizing the platform itself.
Speaker:And so that's with ads,
Speaker:affiliates, and sponsors.
Speaker:So you can monetize your blog with three main methods,
Speaker:it's ads,
Speaker:affiliates, and sponsors.
Speaker:And I'll just give like a quick overview of what each
Speaker:of those are.
Speaker:So ads is pretty obvious.
Speaker:These are display ads.
Speaker:You go to pretty much any website today,
Speaker:and you're going to be hit with an ad.
Speaker:And those are paid out generally when somebody just views the
Speaker:ad. Sometimes there's also where they're paying out if somebody clicks
Speaker:the ad,
Speaker:but we won't get into all the details.
Speaker:So these are just display advertising on your website.
Speaker:The second way is affiliates and affiliates is when you are
Speaker:using affiliate links and you,
Speaker:so you're recommending somebody else's product or service,
Speaker:and you have a blog post about it.
Speaker:Maybe you have reviews or you're including it in lots of
Speaker:different places could be email or social media,
Speaker:whatever. And every time somebody buys through your link,
Speaker:you get a commission on that sale.
Speaker:So you don't get anything upfront,
Speaker:but you get paid out when people purchase through your link.
Speaker:And then sponsors is kind of similar,
Speaker:but it's the reverse.
Speaker:So sponsorships is when you're going to partner up with a
Speaker:brand and they're going to pay you an upfront,
Speaker:flat fee.
Speaker:So let's say they will give you a thousand dollars to
Speaker:write a blog post about their product.
Speaker:And then that's all you get,
Speaker:you get that thousand dollars up front,
Speaker:but no matter what happens,
Speaker:you don't earn any more or less.
Speaker:So I prefer affiliate marketing because there's so much more earning
Speaker:potential. There's not that upfront guarantee,
Speaker:but you can earn on that blog post for many years.
Speaker:Yeah. Because once the links in place,
Speaker:you can keep going forever.
Speaker:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker:And one of my favorite examples to share is something that
Speaker:has come up a lot lately.
Speaker:I had a blog post that I wrote three years ago,
Speaker:and it's consistently shown up in the first page of Google
Speaker:for a long time.
Speaker:And we've earned about $5,000
Speaker:a month from this post for a long time,
Speaker:just this one post.
Speaker:And it's because it shows up on Google search results.
Speaker:And then it's monetized with affiliate links.
Speaker:But when the pandemic hit,
Speaker:more, people were searching for this particular topic.
Speaker:And so we got a surge of traffic and we ended
Speaker:up making $42,000
Speaker:in three months from this one blog post.
Speaker:And I was on maternity leave.
Speaker:No, so I didn't even do anything.
Speaker:It was an old post.
Speaker:And that would just like really showed and solidified the power
Speaker:of affiliate marketing to me.
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:man, this is the long game For sure.
Speaker:That's really incredible actually.
Speaker:Where are you looking at the numbers saying this can't really
Speaker:be right.
Speaker:Something's wrong Was I'm like,
Speaker:something's going on here.
Speaker:And eventually the traffic did kind of go back down to
Speaker:normal. And so it stay that high forever.
Speaker:But like I said,
Speaker:we still consistently make multiple thousand dollars a month from this
Speaker:one blog post.
Speaker:The point is that putting in the time to write an
Speaker:article that people are going to be interested in and then
Speaker:overlaying that in your case with affiliate links or you're going
Speaker:to do that can be a moneymaker.
Speaker:All of us listening here don't really think about any of
Speaker:that. And I don't even know if that's what we'll talk
Speaker:about as it applies to product based businesses.
Speaker:Maybe we will,
Speaker:but it's just the whole idea of a blog in and
Speaker:of itself,
Speaker:because I'm going to just go out on a limb here.
Speaker:I've looked at a lot of websites of people who are
Speaker:in the community and I'm going to say at most 10%
Speaker:have a blog.
Speaker:Hmm. Well,
Speaker:let's change that.
Speaker:Yeah. Seriously.
Speaker:That's why,
Speaker:when we started talking about doing this interview,
Speaker:I'm like,
Speaker:all right,
Speaker:such a good topic.
Speaker:We got to go through this virtual tour.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:To your point,
Speaker:I think I get a lot of people who get confused
Speaker:too, because I have two businesses and one is like selling
Speaker:courses. And one is my blog.
Speaker:And a lot of people say you only make money with
Speaker:your blog from your courses.
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:no, no,
Speaker:no. In 2020 we made over $200,000
Speaker:from my blog,
Speaker:just with ads,
Speaker:affiliates, and sponsors.
Speaker:I didn't sell anything on my blog,
Speaker:root and revel.
Speaker:You can fully monetize your blog in and of itself,
Speaker:but I also think you can use it as a way
Speaker:to supercharge your organic traffic and leads and sell more of
Speaker:your products as well.
Speaker:Wait, so you can do a couple of things.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:here on the show,
Speaker:we are going to be talking more about affiliate links.
Speaker:So that's another thing coming up,
Speaker:but I want us all to start opening our eyes.
Speaker:That even if we have a handmade product business,
Speaker:your ability to earn an income,
Speaker:doesn't come just from direct sales of your specific product.
Speaker:There are other things that you can be doing.
Speaker:Obviously it's going to be your product.
Speaker:That's what you love making.
Speaker:And that's why you started here,
Speaker:but there are other avenues to be bringing in an income
Speaker:to that you layer on you don't replace your product.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean,
Speaker:I think it's very much about having diverse revenue streams.
Speaker:So you don't have all your eggs in one basket.
Speaker:They all can compliment each other.
Speaker:They don't have to compete with each other,
Speaker:but it just kind of gives you a safer,
Speaker:more sustainable business where you're not just relying on this one
Speaker:method. Well,
Speaker:we have,
Speaker:you started talking Kate,
Speaker:just to bring you up to speed with some of the
Speaker:conversations we've had here,
Speaker:you make your product and you sell it.
Speaker:Is there a certain product category you think would be a
Speaker:good one to talk about?
Speaker:So I'll start with that product as we're diving into that,
Speaker:is there,
Speaker:when you're thinking about Kate,
Speaker:honestly, anything let's say jewelry.
Speaker:Okay. Beaded jewelry,
Speaker:for example.
Speaker:So we have a maker who sells beaded jewelry.
Speaker:And what we've been talking about lately is all right,
Speaker:well, yeah,
Speaker:you're going to do that.
Speaker:You're going to make products.
Speaker:If you're going to go to craft shows,
Speaker:you're going to sell direct to consumer.
Speaker:There, you have a website,
Speaker:but this is all selling your product right through Facebook live
Speaker:shows all of these things.
Speaker:Now people are getting to the point where they're starting to
Speaker:create programs around their product too.
Speaker:So maybe they make kits and they do little trainings where
Speaker:you get the kit and then you learn how to make
Speaker:a beaded bracelet all by yourself.
Speaker:And so you're selling,
Speaker:so this is kind of training,
Speaker:talking about different streams of income here.
Speaker:We have been talking about those types of things.
Speaker:So now let's talk about,
Speaker:well, what would a blog then do and what types of
Speaker:articles? And so let's just stay with beaded jewelry.
Speaker:Cause we can all understand what that looks like.
Speaker:How then if someone has a website,
Speaker:they go out to shows.
Speaker:So they have their product and they're pretty established there,
Speaker:but they've never thought in a million years and they maybe
Speaker:don't even,
Speaker:I've never thought of themselves as a writer even,
Speaker:but w how would you layer on a blog on top
Speaker:of that type of a business?
Speaker:So, so I love this example.
Speaker:It's so perfect.
Speaker:And I just did a quick Google search for beaded jewelry.
Speaker:And so there's related keywords that are showing up here,
Speaker:like beaded jewelry trends,
Speaker:2021. So you could do a Roundup and you could do
Speaker:many different posts on the trends in beaded jewelry,
Speaker:talking about that,
Speaker:getting people excited about what they could potentially buy from you
Speaker:or your affiliate partners.
Speaker:The next keywords that I'm seeing are beaded jewelry tutorials.
Speaker:So yes,
Speaker:you could sell your own kits,
Speaker:but you could also just have some like how to posts.
Speaker:You could do blog posts about really simple things for getting
Speaker:started. I would think would be really helpful.
Speaker:People who are just getting into this and are like,
Speaker:I'm going to make my first beaded necklace ever.
Speaker:And you would have tutorials for that.
Speaker:You could have roundups of the materials that you need in
Speaker:order to make your own beaded jewelry.
Speaker:I'm looking at some other things.
Speaker:They have handmade beaded jewelry patterns.
Speaker:So you could be talking about different patterns for how to,
Speaker:I'm not a beaded jewelry expert.
Speaker:So I'm like,
Speaker:what is the pattern?
Speaker:I don't even know what that means.
Speaker:So there's lots of different ideas and you can get ideas
Speaker:just from Googling your topic and seeing what other related keywords
Speaker:come up.
Speaker:What people,
Speaker:when you Google something,
Speaker:now it gives you this thing.
Speaker:It says,
Speaker:people also ask,
Speaker:and it says,
Speaker:can you make money selling Bita jewelry?
Speaker:Well, you could write a blog post that answers that question.
Speaker:I would focus on blog posts that are going to get
Speaker:people towards your goal.
Speaker:So if your goal is to sell your own beaded jewelry,
Speaker:that blog post,
Speaker:maybe doesn't make sense,
Speaker:but B to jewelry trends makes a lot of sense.
Speaker:You want to think about what's going to get people in
Speaker:the right mindset or frame of mind in order to buy
Speaker:your products.
Speaker:Yeah. Well,
Speaker:I'm also thinking,
Speaker:cause you're going exactly where I think some of the minds
Speaker:of our listeners are going,
Speaker:is that,
Speaker:well, why would I want to sell someone away from them
Speaker:buying if they could make their own.
Speaker:And I'm going to say,
Speaker:first off,
Speaker:some people will try to make their own and then see
Speaker:that they can only make a simple design or they never
Speaker:want to do it again.
Speaker:They only want to wear your creations.
Speaker:Right? So that's one thing.
Speaker:So I wouldn't be so hesitant or worried about that.
Speaker:You want to have some strategy around it,
Speaker:but I don't think that you should just shut down this
Speaker:idea, thinking that it's going to raid sales from you.
Speaker:Right. But the other thing is,
Speaker:I think it also opens up completely different audiences.
Speaker:Wouldn't you say,
Speaker:Kate? Because just like how you have a blog,
Speaker:you also teach blogging people that you're teaching blogging to aren't
Speaker:stealing away business from your blog.
Speaker:If that makes sense.
Speaker:Yes, exactly.
Speaker:It's an entirely new audience that's coming to you for potentially
Speaker:a different thing.
Speaker:Yes, totally.
Speaker:And I think you have to think of like,
Speaker:sort of if this long-term strategy.
Speaker:So for example,
Speaker:if your ultimate goal is to sell your own beaded jewelry
Speaker:products, you can get people like,
Speaker:what if you had a beaded jewelry tutorial post,
Speaker:this is a blog post.
Speaker:And in that post,
Speaker:you just kind of take like three photos of the step-by-step
Speaker:process of how to do something really,
Speaker:really simple.
Speaker:And then people come and they find you through that.
Speaker:And then they might read the post and you could have
Speaker:like an email opt-in on the post that kind of takes
Speaker:them the next step.
Speaker:Okay. They've seen the tutorial.
Speaker:Now, if they join your email list,
Speaker:you can give them a list of your top 10 favorite
Speaker:tools for making your own Bita jewelry.
Speaker:Well, then they get on your email list and then from
Speaker:your email,
Speaker:you can start nurturing them and talking to them about how,
Speaker:yeah, you could either buy this kit from me,
Speaker:or you could just buy the necklace.
Speaker:If what you really want is to have a really pretty
Speaker:Bita jewelry necklace.
Speaker:Here it is.
Speaker:Here's the thing.
Speaker:You don't have to go through all these other steps,
Speaker:but if you do actually want to make it yourself,
Speaker:I have options for that.
Speaker:And those tools could be affiliate links.
Speaker:So if people buy those tools,
Speaker:then you're getting a kickback from it also.
Speaker:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker:I'm liking this a lot.
Speaker:And that works really well.
Speaker:So a blog,
Speaker:does it have to be just all written or how is
Speaker:video doing in a blog?
Speaker:These days?
Speaker:Video is huge in blogging right now in Google is really
Speaker:rewarding blogs that have video.
Speaker:So meaning that they're putting them higher up in the search
Speaker:results. And this is again why I'm like all websites or
Speaker:blogs. Let's get out of thinking of blogs as this one
Speaker:thing I think of,
Speaker:like I mentioned,
Speaker:blogging is a form of content marketing and it's just kind
Speaker:of the home base where that content lives and attracts people
Speaker:into your sphere.
Speaker:And so hypothetically,
Speaker:I have a podcast and I take the show notes for
Speaker:that podcast and I create a blog post with it.
Speaker:I kind of expand them out a little bit.
Speaker:I optimize them for SEO.
Speaker:I put a podcast player directly in the post,
Speaker:so you could listen to it right there.
Speaker:And now this lives on my blog and makes me find-able
Speaker:by Google.
Speaker:Whereas if I only was living in the podcast like an
Speaker:apple podcast or Libsyn or whatever,
Speaker:then Google can't really find me.
Speaker:So there's ways to do that in the same would go
Speaker:for videos.
Speaker:So you could either be uploading your video directly to your
Speaker:site, or potentially you have a YouTube channel and you have
Speaker:your YouTube channel.
Speaker:But then I would also recommend now create a blog post
Speaker:that embeds that video from YouTube and has optimized for SEO.
Speaker:So again,
Speaker:you're, find-able,
Speaker:although YouTube is also a search engine in and of itself.
Speaker:So you're,
Speaker:find-able there as well.
Speaker:Yeah. But no reason not to have it in both places.
Speaker:Well, and it's just,
Speaker:you're repurposing.
Speaker:It's not like you have to reinvent the wheel.
Speaker:Just put the exact same thing in both places.
Speaker:Right? Absolutely.
Speaker:The other thing I'm thinking about for topics is I'm going
Speaker:to say what I'm thinking,
Speaker:and then I'm gonna give you an example.
Speaker:Okay. What types of questions do you get from customers on
Speaker:a regular basis?
Speaker:Could that be something that turns into a blog?
Speaker:And the example I want to give is Ana with limbo
Speaker:imports and Kate,
Speaker:she does these unbelievably gorgeous cotton hammocks and hammock chairs.
Speaker:They are amazing.
Speaker:And a lot of people use them for indoor use.
Speaker:But the biggest question that she gets is how do I
Speaker:hang this?
Speaker:Like, this looks so hard based on the weight that it
Speaker:has to hold.
Speaker:Like, how do you do this?
Speaker:The second she started answering that question for people,
Speaker:for business sword.
Speaker:Exactly. So she has a blog post or maybe several different
Speaker:types, but let's just say one that says how to hang
Speaker:an indoor hammock.
Speaker:And then she details out here's how to do it.
Speaker:Here's the other tools you might need.
Speaker:And it could be everything from like,
Speaker:here's the hammer or the drill and whatever it is,
Speaker:those could all be affiliate links.
Speaker:And then you're showing pictures of your own beautiful product.
Speaker:So people are like,
Speaker:Ooh, I want this hammock.
Speaker:Then when you have people who are interested in potentially buying,
Speaker:but they're coming to you with that question first,
Speaker:you just direct them to the blog post.
Speaker:Here you go.
Speaker:We have it all detailed for you right here.
Speaker:Yeah. And I'm thinking of something else here too,
Speaker:just to get everyone juices flowing a little bit about ideas
Speaker:of things that you can do.
Speaker:Let's say you make cupcakes.
Speaker:Okay. And you usually do like the dessert tables and all
Speaker:you could talk about what you need to put on a
Speaker:dessert table,
Speaker:or let's say,
Speaker:how about a mini dessert tray for a small party of
Speaker:four, for example?
Speaker:Yes. Then you could collaborate with someone else.
Speaker:Who's part of our community here.
Speaker:Like if biz breeze in our community who may be makes
Speaker:serving trays.
Speaker:Yeah. The two of you could join together.
Speaker:You could talk about how you put the cupcakes or whatever
Speaker:the desserts are on a tray.
Speaker:And then the other business has a tray and you two
Speaker:together could work with each other on something like this A
Speaker:hundred percent.
Speaker:Yeah. I love it.
Speaker:And I mean,
Speaker:my daughter is turning one this weekend.
Speaker:And so I'm like,
Speaker:I'm already Googling how to decorate for a one-year-olds birthday,
Speaker:like cute cupcake and cake ideas for birthday parties and stuff.
Speaker:And if you were showing up in the search results and
Speaker:then it was like,
Speaker:oh, and I can buy these cupcakes from you sold.
Speaker:Yeah. And I can get a tray with her name that
Speaker:celebrates her first birthday.
Speaker:So cool.
Speaker:Yeah. All those types of things.
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:So exciting.
Speaker:Okay. So I think we've gotten people thinking now along the
Speaker:lines, and we've given them a number of different ideas of
Speaker:how they could create a blog.
Speaker:It sits on the same website as your products.
Speaker:So don't go and create a whole nother site.
Speaker:Let's not complicate life.
Speaker:Right. Plus you want to drive everything to the same place.
Speaker:So it can all work together for SEO going to your
Speaker:site. I know Kate that you said WordPress is your preferred
Speaker:platform, but a lot of us here are on sites like
Speaker:Shopify. Okay.
Speaker:And they do have a section where you can create a
Speaker:blog on your site there.
Speaker:How do you feel about that?
Speaker:Wow. Well,
Speaker:I feel like you're not going to like my answer,
Speaker:but, well,
Speaker:we're being Honest here,
Speaker:so let's just go with it.
Speaker:Okay. My opinion is I would move your site to WordPress
Speaker:and add the Shopify plugin to your WordPress site because what
Speaker:my fear is,
Speaker:and I'm not totally familiar with Shopify site,
Speaker:but there's a lot of things for the technical SEO,
Speaker:things like meta descriptions and alt text and SEO titles and
Speaker:things that you probably either don't know about yet.
Speaker:Or it's a lot,
Speaker:SEO is always like,
Speaker:you don't know what you don't know,
Speaker:but there's a lot of features that I doubt Shopify allows
Speaker:you to do,
Speaker:even though you can technically have a blog.
Speaker:If it's not optimized for SEO,
Speaker:you're not going to rank.
Speaker:And then it's like,
Speaker:kind of all for not.
Speaker:Yeah. I'm not sure.
Speaker:I actually think Shopify has gotten more sophisticated with that as
Speaker:time has gone on,
Speaker:plus it is very much optimized for your products.
Speaker:Yeah. So,
Speaker:which is the original driving force of going to Shopify.
Speaker:So it's a question it's something to consider and think about.
Speaker:Maybe I'll investigate that a little bit further just to know.
Speaker:Yeah. But regardless of which platforms you're on.
Speaker:So WordPress predominantly is what you suggest Shopify wherever you are,
Speaker:because I don't want you not to do it because you're
Speaker:not going to change to a different site wherever you are.
Speaker:If you have the option to add a blog,
Speaker:do it right.
Speaker:And then how else can you promote the fact that you
Speaker:have a blog?
Speaker:Like what about social media options?
Speaker:There's a lot more to hear about blogging and that will
Speaker:happen on the other side of this quick break.
Speaker:Yes. It's possible increase your sales without adding a single customer.
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Speaker:Where else can you get customization with a creatively spelled name
Speaker:or find packaging?
Speaker:That includes a saying whose meaning is known to a select
Speaker:to not only our customers willing to pay for these special
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Speaker:So I really,
Speaker:I put my Energy into SEO because SEO is a little
Speaker:bit more passive in the sense that you set it up
Speaker:once. And yes,
Speaker:there's maybe some things you monitor and you're kind of,
Speaker:you can go back and repair or repurpose things and make
Speaker:them better as you learn more after they have been live
Speaker:for a while,
Speaker:but I'm a mom of two under two and a half.
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:I am busy.
Speaker:I know so many of your listeners are probably busy moms
Speaker:as well.
Speaker:And even if you don't have kids,
Speaker:it's a fast paced world.
Speaker:Right? And I don't like spending my life on my phone
Speaker:and on social media.
Speaker:So I really tried to emphasize,
Speaker:like, you don't need social media to grow your blog.
Speaker:I think you are going to get much more traffic from
Speaker:an SEO strategy or from Pinterest strategy,
Speaker:which is also a search engine and not a social media
Speaker:platform. So I would focus on Pinterest and SEO rather than
Speaker:things like Facebook or Instagram,
Speaker:because those apps are designed to keep you on the site
Speaker:or on the app.
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:And while I think that can be a great compliment for
Speaker:building a community,
Speaker:they're not good traffic drivers,
Speaker:they're not designed to be.
Speaker:It's like you have to have a certain number of followers
Speaker:to even be able to swipe up.
Speaker:And so they want you to stay on the app.
Speaker:So if you're trying to drive traffic back to your site,
Speaker:I think you'll find much more bang for your buck focusing
Speaker:on search and SEO,
Speaker:Pinterest, that kind of Thing.
Speaker:Okay, perfect.
Speaker:Because we have been talking about Pinterest more and more here
Speaker:lately. And for those of you who are just joining in
Speaker:Pinterest is like just what Kate's just been talking about more
Speaker:of a search engine versus a social media platform.
Speaker:It started as a social media platform,
Speaker:but it's morphed kind of like the same thing that YouTube
Speaker:has done,
Speaker:Right. People go to Pinterest and they type in something in
Speaker:the search bar.
Speaker:They're looking for something particular.
Speaker:So maybe they're looking for beaded jewelry or they're looking for
Speaker:hammocks or something,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:like they're typing that into Pinterest and then seeing what comes
Speaker:up versus like on Instagram,
Speaker:for example,
Speaker:people aren't usually typing in something they're just scrolling through their
Speaker:feed. Most people now with Pinterest,
Speaker:they don't go to Pinterest and scroll.
Speaker:They'd go to Pinterest and search.
Speaker:Right. Exactly.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So let's get back to our beaded jewelry.
Speaker:Okay. We've made an article.
Speaker:Let's go with what you saying.
Speaker:So it's a tutorial of how to do the beaded jewelry
Speaker:and you can either get the pieces yourself,
Speaker:or you can buy the kit that I already have ready
Speaker:for you and sent out,
Speaker:and then you can follow the instructions.
Speaker:Yep. How then do I use that on Pinterest?
Speaker:I'm obviously not putting that whole article up on Pinterest,
Speaker:but so what am I doing with this now?
Speaker:Take us forward from here.
Speaker:Yeah. So you need to have some photos to accompany this
Speaker:blog post.
Speaker:And they could either be like original photos that you took,
Speaker:or you could use something like Canva and they have a
Speaker:free plan and you can create a graphic for Pinterest that
Speaker:maybe has a photo with some text over it that says,
Speaker:DIY your own beaded necklace.
Speaker:And then what you're doing is you're pinning that image or
Speaker:that graphic to a board in Pinterest.
Speaker:And you're putting a description of what that pin is talking
Speaker:about. So it would be like DIY tutorial for,
Speaker:and you're going to want to optimize it with the keywords
Speaker:that people are searching for for this particular kind of tutorial.
Speaker:And I guarantee you,
Speaker:people are searching for it.
Speaker:It's more this pin description with an image or a graphic,
Speaker:and then it links back to your blog.
Speaker:So now if I go to Pinterest,
Speaker:I would type in beaded necklace and potentially your image would
Speaker:show up.
Speaker:And then I would be like,
Speaker:yes, that's beautiful.
Speaker:I want that.
Speaker:I would click it.
Speaker:And it would take me to your book.
Speaker:Right. So it all then goes back to your blog on
Speaker:your website,
Speaker:which is the reason why you want all of it together,
Speaker:because then when someone's on your website,
Speaker:they might also look at your products.
Speaker:Right? So it all funnels back there.
Speaker:The other thing that I have learned it's been about six
Speaker:months or so,
Speaker:but I didn't know this before then is you can take
Speaker:one piece of content and make multiple images for multiple purposes
Speaker:on Pinterest.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:So your work of this one article could become like 40
Speaker:pens. Yeah.
Speaker:It isn't that crazy.
Speaker:How many?
Speaker:But like all different types of images and topics,
Speaker:like one of them might be again with our beaded jewelry
Speaker:example is Saturday afternoon activities with your teenager or while do
Speaker:teens do anything with their parents?
Speaker:I don't even know.
Speaker:You know what I mean?
Speaker:You can take that article.
Speaker:So that one piece of content,
Speaker:like you were saying earlier,
Speaker:Kate putting all the effort into that article that can work
Speaker:for you for years,
Speaker:this is the same type of thing.
Speaker:But the different angles of how people might be interested that
Speaker:the content of your article serves,
Speaker:Right? Yeah.
Speaker:Five DIY X for a rainy afternoon.
Speaker:And one of them is making your own Bita jewelry and
Speaker:then that's linking to your products or your kits or whatever
Speaker:it is that you're selling there.
Speaker:And then some of the others may have nothing to do
Speaker:with you.
Speaker:It might just be like crossword puzzles and then there's something
Speaker:else. So some of them may not be anything related to
Speaker:your thing.
Speaker:It's just a Roundup and business is one example.
Speaker:And then the others could either be affiliate links or just
Speaker:a genuine,
Speaker:just this is actually something else you could do.
Speaker:And it doesn't necessarily,
Speaker:not every word has to be monetized.
Speaker:Right, right.
Speaker:And roundups,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I think we forget about these and I will say our
Speaker:community barely ever uses these and it could be so good.
Speaker:So you could do a Roundup,
Speaker:just like Kate's talking about of the five things.
Speaker:One of them is your product,
Speaker:but maybe the four others are other people's products of people
Speaker:that, you know,
Speaker:and you tell them,
Speaker:Hey, I just did a blog article and I'm including you
Speaker:FYI. Then they share it.
Speaker:Then they share it.
Speaker:Right. Roundups are great for that.
Speaker:And there's so many good examples because this is so fresh
Speaker:on my mind.
Speaker:I've been searching for birthday cakes for my daughter's birthday.
Speaker:And so I'm like,
Speaker:if you sell cupcakes,
Speaker:you could do a Roundup of 10 beautiful cakes for baby
Speaker:girl birthdays.
Speaker:And there's a unicorn cake and there's a gemstone cake and
Speaker:there's whatever.
Speaker:And some of them are yours and some of them are
Speaker:affiliates or people in your community that you just want to
Speaker:give a shout out to,
Speaker:and then they share it.
Speaker:And it's a Win for everybody.
Speaker:Absolutely. I love that idea.
Speaker:So yeah.
Speaker:So it's not just all of your content all the time
Speaker:and it's not all like a tutorial article.
Speaker:There are so many options,
Speaker:so many options.
Speaker:So, you know,
Speaker:when you just open your eyes and think of different opportunities
Speaker:and options to include other people that then bring additional exposure
Speaker:to your brand,
Speaker:all of that.
Speaker:Right. Oh,
Speaker:and emails.
Speaker:So, you know,
Speaker:once you've done an article,
Speaker:then you want to share that there is an article available.
Speaker:So that's email content for your list.
Speaker:Yep. Cause you want to make sure that they know about
Speaker:it. So many things just blast them out of that one
Speaker:article, I'll say it leads me to a question though,
Speaker:and that is,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:how within email deliverability can be affected by how many images
Speaker:you have in your email.
Speaker:Is there anything like that that's associated with blog articles,
Speaker:too many pictures,
Speaker:too little pictures have a picture.
Speaker:Don't have a picture,
Speaker:always Have at least one image and it doesn't have to
Speaker:be like original photography.
Speaker:If you're doing a Roundup of 10 rainy day activities,
Speaker:you could just have one graphic and it's of stock image
Speaker:of somebody doing a puzzle or something.
Speaker:It doesn't have to be some fancy,
Speaker:original photography,
Speaker:but you always want to have at least one image mostly
Speaker:because it's just visually appealing and it breaks up the text.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I hesitate to say there's no such thing as too many
Speaker:images, but only because I feel like that's not the problem
Speaker:that I see most people having.
Speaker:It's more so having enough
one, I usually try to shoot for like three to five
Speaker:images per post,
Speaker:but it depends on how long the post is as well.
Speaker:A much longer post might need more images.
Speaker:Whereas a quick 200 word post is good with just one.
Speaker:But the other thing you said that I just wanted to
Speaker:be super clear about.
Speaker:So if you have a blog post and you want to
Speaker:email your list and say,
Speaker:Hey, we've got a new article up.
Speaker:What you want to do is you don't want to put
Speaker:the entire blog post in the email.
Speaker:You want to give them a reason to click and go
Speaker:to your website to read the post.
Speaker:So I always do more of like a teaser and then
Speaker:to read the full post go here.
Speaker:Excellent, agreed.
Speaker:Cause then they have no reason to go over to your
Speaker:website. And again,
Speaker:if right now it's just your product that you're selling primarily,
Speaker:or even as an add-on,
Speaker:someone wants to pick up a bracelet in addition to whatever
Speaker:else they're reading about.
Speaker:If they don't get over to the website,
Speaker:you've lost that opportunity.
Speaker:Right. Plus who's going to read an email article that's 7,000
Speaker:pages long.
Speaker:Yeah, no,
Speaker:nobody wants to do that.
Speaker:And I think you can build a little bit of intrigue
Speaker:for people and get them excited about reading it.
Speaker:And again,
Speaker:you're just kind of like teaching people how to engage with
Speaker:you on a more regular basis and get over to your
Speaker:website more,
Speaker:the more they're on your website,
Speaker:the more likely they are to purchase.
Speaker:So getting them there is always helpful,
Speaker:but I do want to differentiate too,
Speaker:because I think it could be valuable to have some content
Speaker:that's like created for people who are already in your community
Speaker:or on your email list.
Speaker:But a lot of what I'm talking about here is more
Speaker:to get new leads and new traffic coming in.
Speaker:So it's more about what are people searching for that could
Speaker:bring them to your site rather than like this person's already
Speaker:on my list.
Speaker:What did they need?
Speaker:Okay. Really good distinction in terms of actually the content direction.
Speaker:Is there a sweet spot for how long a blog should
Speaker:be in terms of word count or anything?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I don't really Think so.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I think what you want to do is you want to
Speaker:solve their problem in full.
Speaker:You don't want to give them like half an article.
Speaker:That's like,
Speaker:well, wait,
Speaker:now what being comprehensive is important,
Speaker:but people have short attention spans.
Speaker:Most people,
Speaker:aren't reading thousands of words for a post.
Speaker:So I think somewhere between 500 and a thousand words is
Speaker:probably a good place to shoot for.
Speaker:It's not a hard and fast Rule.
Speaker:Okay. And then what about structure?
Speaker:And I'm thinking about breaking up the text with bold headlines,
Speaker:things like that.
Speaker:Yeah. So you want to use headlines,
Speaker:you'll want to use bullet points when needed.
Speaker:We want to have images to break up the text.
Speaker:There's other things that you can do that are both good
Speaker:for breaking up texts and a better user experience and are
Speaker:good for SEO,
Speaker:for example,
Speaker:having related posts within that post.
Speaker:So this is what SEO would call like internal linking.
Speaker:So somebody is looking at your beaded necklace post,
Speaker:and then you might also like this beaded bracelet post,
Speaker:and that breaks up the text.
Speaker:And it also sends a signal to Google that you're doing
Speaker:internal linking,
Speaker:which they like,
Speaker:Like internal linking and external linking.
Speaker:Yes. Both.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:Is There a thing as too many links in an article?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I think if Your link stuffing and it's not a good
Speaker:user experience,
Speaker:then yes,
Speaker:there would be such a thing is that I think if
Speaker:you're writing it,
Speaker:like if you have a Roundup of 20 items,
Speaker:all DIY jewelers need and you have 20 links,
Speaker:that makes sense.
Speaker:That's exactly what the post is built for.
Speaker:But if you're just linking every word you possibly could to
Speaker:just like,
Speaker:get an affiliate link in there,
Speaker:it feels unnatural or something,
Speaker:then you don't want to go that route.
Speaker:And to complete this portion of the conversation,
Speaker:I think this is olden days,
Speaker:so it's not happening as much,
Speaker:but I just want to address it still is.
Speaker:What about keyword Stuffing?
Speaker:Yeah. I mean very similar.
Speaker:Like, so we have a checklist inside the six-figure blog academy
Speaker:that I give people about where to put your keyword and
Speaker:kind of variations of the keyword.
Speaker:Some people I think get like really fixated on it has
Speaker:to be this exact phrase a million times.
Speaker:And it's like,
Speaker:no, you can have some variations,
Speaker:but you don't want to keyword stuff.
Speaker:So again,
Speaker:you want to read it and it sounds like a human
Speaker:wrote it and that it's not just super repetitive and awkward
Speaker:and unnatural to how people speak,
Speaker:but there are lots of places you can put the keyword
Speaker:and some of it is visual to the reader.
Speaker:So it's like in the title,
Speaker:in the URL,
Speaker:in the headline,
Speaker:some in the copy itself.
Speaker:But a lot of it's like more on the backend where
Speaker:it's that meta-description,
Speaker:it's the alt text.
Speaker:It's lots of the things that are happening behind the scenes
Speaker:that your readers will never see.
Speaker:I guess,
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:all that backend can sound very foreign and make people uncomfortable,
Speaker:but I would liken it to,
Speaker:let's say,
Speaker:you're getting ready to go out to dinner.
Speaker:And what people see when you enter into the restaurant,
Speaker:you're dressed nicely,
Speaker:you've got your makeup on your hair done,
Speaker:et cetera.
Speaker:But behind the scenes,
Speaker:you used a really good product on your hair so that
Speaker:it looks shiny.
Speaker:You use some nice lotion on your skin,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:whatever it is,
Speaker:that's kind of the behind the scenes,
Speaker:things that are what all tags are and all of that.
Speaker:And I think there are some,
Speaker:do you call them apps or plugins Kate that you can
Speaker:use that help trigger you to fill in these things so
Speaker:that the whole package is complete.
Speaker:It's not just you write your blog,
Speaker:but all those behind the scene,
Speaker:things kind of like,
Speaker:I was just talking about going out to dinner.
Speaker:Yeah. Like you want all of that together to really give
Speaker:as much power to your article as possible.
Speaker:Exactly. And this is one of the reasons that I'm like,
Speaker:WordPress is the best option for SEO because they do have
Speaker:plugins like this,
Speaker:that don't exist on some other platforms.
Speaker:So one of my favorites and it's super ubiquitous at this
Speaker:point, but it's called Yoast,
Speaker:Y O a S T.
Speaker:It's a free plugin.
Speaker:And when you download it every time you write a post,
Speaker:you put in there,
Speaker:this is the keyword I'm trying to rank for.
Speaker:And so you put in the keyword or the keyword phrase,
Speaker:and then it tells you where to that keyword.
Speaker:And it's going to give you like a red,
Speaker:green, or yellow light to tell you whether or not you
Speaker:met sort of the basic requirements.
Speaker:It is not like a hard and fast rule.
Speaker:I have some posts that don't always get a green light.
Speaker:It doesn't account for a lot of nuance,
Speaker:but it's a great tool to use,
Speaker:especially when you're first getting started.
Speaker:And you're like,
Speaker:how am I ever going to keep track of all of
Speaker:this? Or this is so new and foreign to me.
Speaker:And you just look at the Yoast plugin and it's like,
Speaker:okay, you didn't put it in your meta-description or your keywords
Speaker:missing from the first paragraph of your copy,
Speaker:whatever. Yeah.
Speaker:It also helps with readability.
Speaker:Yes. I get so mad at that Yoast thing.
Speaker:I know I'll change like one little portion of a sentence
Speaker:because it reads more like how I talk and then I'll
Speaker:change from like green to orange or something.
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:seriously, I just changed.
Speaker:Yeah. And That's why I say sometimes I do think like
Speaker:a lot of my students are like,
Speaker:I can't get green and I'm like,
Speaker:okay, it's more of an art than a science.
Speaker:And just know that Google is going to reward positive user
Speaker:experiences more than it's going to reward robots,
Speaker:version of readability.
Speaker:So if it's something that feels more natural,
Speaker:it has more personality.
Speaker:It's going to connect more with your people.
Speaker:But Yoast is saying like,
Speaker:oh, this is a run-on sentence.
Speaker:Oh, good.
Speaker:Well, thank you,
Speaker:Kate. I appreciate that.
Speaker:This is a question I've never thought of before.
Speaker:When you talk about reader experience,
Speaker:does Google then look and see how much time is spent
Speaker:on a particular,
Speaker:I guess that's Google analytics,
Speaker:right? How much time is spent on a blog article and
Speaker:then click throughs also too.
Speaker:So I guess I do know that I just never really
Speaker:thought it through So much.
Speaker:Yeah. I mean,
Speaker:there's something that you can see in your Google analytics,
Speaker:that's called bounce rate.
Speaker:And so this is basically what shows Google,
Speaker:how many people come to your site?
Speaker:Like they click something from Google,
Speaker:come to your site and then immediately leave.
Speaker:Like that's showing that you were not matching search intent.
Speaker:They didn't have a good user experience.
Speaker:Sometimes it's by no fault of your own.
Speaker:Like, oh,
Speaker:I'm looking for an apple pie recipe and this particular one
Speaker:has nutmeg in it and I'm allergic by.
Speaker:So it's not always like your problem,
Speaker:but bounce rate generally is how Google is measuring whether you
Speaker:were matching search intent and providing a positive experience.
Speaker:Okay. Perfect.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So we could dive into all of this nitty gritty and
Speaker:sit here for probably an hour talking about all of that,
Speaker:but let's circle back to just an over arching statement of
Speaker:what the value of a blog would be for a product
Speaker:business and leave everybody with that thinking.
Speaker:Yes. So if you feel like you're constantly having to show
Speaker:up, live on social media,
Speaker:or just be there reinventing the wheel every day,
Speaker:or you're spending a lot of money on ads and you're
Speaker:just not getting the kinds of sales and leads that you
Speaker:want. I think blogging is going to be a great strategy.
Speaker:That's going to help you become find-able and increase your visibility,
Speaker:which will then increase your sales.
Speaker:Love it.
Speaker:And it makes me feel like I can breathe.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:kind of like the white space we were talking about in
Speaker:the beginning,
Speaker:because we're all pushing so hard for social media and it's
Speaker:so stressful.
Speaker:And social media is every day you got to do it
Speaker:all over again.
Speaker:Things have such a short shelf life,
Speaker:but blogging is such a long game.
Speaker:And so there's so much longevity that comes from having a
Speaker:blog post.
Speaker:Perfect. I love that.
Speaker:I think you've gotten everybody thinking here a little bit deeper
Speaker:about instituting and having a blog for themselves.
Speaker:Awesome. Talk a little bit more about what you offer if
Speaker:someone would like to learn more from you.
Speaker:Sure. Thank you.
Speaker:I have a couple of different programs.
Speaker:We have one called 21 days to impact.
Speaker:This is for really beginners.
Speaker:So I would say this is for people who either don't
Speaker:have a website yet,
Speaker:or maybe you have a website,
Speaker:but it's on one of the platforms that I don't think
Speaker:is going to get you the most bang for your buck
Speaker:and you are willing to switch.
Speaker:Then 21 days to impact might be a good place to
Speaker:start because it's going to teach you how to use WordPress,
Speaker:how to get everything set up and get your blog up
Speaker:and running.
Speaker:But if you already have a website that you're happy with
Speaker:and you just want to add a blog component,
Speaker:then the six-figure blog academy could help you with SEO with
Speaker:your email marketing.
Speaker:If you want to explore affiliates or other ways you can
Speaker:monetize your blog itself,
Speaker:that's really the program that teaches you how to do that.
Speaker:And then just to throw one more option into the mix.
Speaker:I do have another program called the success with soul incubator.
Speaker:And this is actually where I think most of your audience
Speaker:would be a good fit.
Speaker:Anybody who already has a business established,
Speaker:I should say.
Speaker:And in it,
Speaker:we talk about content marketing and how to use this,
Speaker:to do exactly what we talked about.
Speaker:Six FBA is more about monetizing your blog itself.
Speaker:Whereas the incubator is more about how to use your blog
Speaker:to sell more of your products.
Speaker:Wonderful. And where should people go to learn more about these
Speaker:programs? So I'll just share The link for the last one.
Speaker:It's Kate kordsmeier.com
Speaker:forward slash apply.
Speaker:That's a great place to get started.
Speaker:And if you're there and you're like,
Speaker:no, this isn't right for me,
Speaker:I'm interested in one of the other things,
Speaker:just remove the apply and go check out my regular website
Speaker:and you'll find the other stuff there.
Speaker:Perfect. And as always,
Speaker:of course,
Speaker:links will be in the show notes page so easily accessible
Speaker:for you for later as well.
Speaker:Awesome. So Kate,
Speaker:this has been so interesting just having this conversation.
Speaker:I really think that blogs are something that most product businesses
Speaker:aren't really thinking about and certainly not thinking about to the
Speaker:potential that they can provide.
Speaker:So I really appreciate you sharing all of this with us
Speaker:today. Yeah,
Speaker:my pleasure.
Speaker:I hope I got everyone's wheels turning and I really appreciate
Speaker:you having me.
Speaker:Okay, stop right there.
Speaker:Don't just listen to this show,
Speaker:having just received this understanding of how to drive business over
Speaker:to your website and do nothing about it,
Speaker:figure out a topic that would be something your ideal customer
Speaker:would search for to know,
Speaker:write an article about it and put it up on your
Speaker:site. It's something that you can do this week.
Speaker:If you make it a priority,
Speaker:then direct message me over on Instagram at gift biz.
Speaker:Unwrapped. Of course,
Speaker:when your article is up,
Speaker:I have something special in store for the first 10 people
Speaker:who do this.
Speaker:I'll be waiting to watch which one of you it is.
Speaker:It's going to be worth it.
Speaker:I promise.
Speaker:So we've talked about how to make more sales by getting
Speaker:eyeballs over to your website.
Speaker:Next week,
Speaker:we'll be talking about another way to make money from your
Speaker:website. That doesn't necessarily include your products.
Speaker:Hmm. Big question mark.
Speaker:Over your head,
Speaker:right? It's a stream of income naturally,
Speaker:ready and waiting for your handmade product business.
Speaker:And I can't wait to share it with you as always.
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