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Exercise Tiger | The Deadly Dry-Run For D-Day
Episode 49th August 2021 • Reddit On Wiki • Cultiv8 Podcast Network
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For today's episode, we will be discussing Exercise Tiger, a WWII training exercise for D-Day that resulted in over 1000 deaths! What happened at Slapton Beach in 1944?

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Resources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Tiger

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Exercise-Tiger/

https://www.history.com/news/d-days-deadly-dress-rehearsal

https://www.history.navy.mil/browse-by-topic/wars-conflicts-and-operations/world-war-ii/1944/exercise-tiger.html

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[00:01:40] Josh: that's. Okay. That's okay. Last week, last week we leave that in the past.

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[00:01:49] John: sometimes you just don't perform as well as you want to, you know? Yeah.

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[00:01:58] It is our second, an official week of [00:02:00] content. And the response has been unreal guys, tons of reviews, tons of comments, tons of tweets, you know, loving the response. So keep them coming and we will keep the content coming. Keep

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[00:02:15] Josh: Cookie worthy. Oh God, no, no, no. Sean, we keep those two.

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[00:02:41] I absolutely adore John. And then in brackets, it says my Boba buddy, and I can't wait to learn more about the other hosts and see what kind of insane stories these three plan to dig up from the bells of the interwebs. We are going to disappoint you more than you think. Um, but, uh, John might be your Boba buddy.

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[00:03:42] I'm sorry.

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[00:03:45] Josh: All right. Under pressure. And, uh, that's, that's what it is, guys. I hate, I hate to break it to you. The content doesn't get better from here. For those of you who don't know what Reddit on Wiki is. We research things using Wikipedia, [00:04:00] Reddit, basically it, we don't have many sources.

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[00:04:22] No, no. And what'd you like to guess on what exercise tiger is? And I gave you a hint in there. It said tragedy. So

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[00:04:37] Josh: Yes, that was in Florida, but this is not what that is. I was

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[00:04:42] Josh: inside of a tiger. Ooh. Okay. I like this.

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[00:04:58] John: Wait, did you say [00:05:00] exercise or exercise?

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[00:05:06] John: workout

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[00:05:12] Sean: exercise got a Tiger's head completely 360.

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[00:05:28] Sean: Sadly. You were

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[00:05:36] And, uh, we will see if it helps you guys understand what it is. So Wikipedia says, quote, exercise tire or operation tiger was one of a series of large-scale rehearsals for D day invasion of Normandy, which took place in April, 1944 on Slapton sands in Devin coordination and communication problems resulted in the friendly fire death during the [00:06:00] exercise.

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[00:06:20] So does that give you a little bit of a hint, but we're going go in Nazi, Germany, baby. Well, you keep bringing John back to

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[00:06:29] Josh: When he tried to do to this man flashbacks and the Viola. I do talk about PTSD too. Uh, yeah. So sadly there is no John in the story now that I think about it, although there probably is, I just don't name Jones were there

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[00:06:46] Josh: disappointed.

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[00:06:48] John: in this

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[00:07:09] So on August 17th, 1942, the allied Canadian forces attempted to land on the beaches. Over 130 kilometers away from the beaches of Normandy, that would be captured two years later. However, you know, since we don't hear about this beaches, often it's safe to say they did not manage to capture DF due to what's that.

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[00:07:36] John: maybe it's the possessed

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[00:07:41] John: thinking

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[00:07:53] Fuck you. I wasn't exercising tiger Dick. I'm not a

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[00:08:00] Josh: not let's put it. That's the title for this

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[00:08:04] Josh: is a furry Sean, definitely not a furry. Anyone who has to clarify that,

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[00:08:39] With little to no air support or Naval support about a quarter of the soldiers that landed were killed and well over half were wounded or captured by the German forces, their defeat. Wasn't for nothing though, as it laid the groundwork from one of the most important days in world war. D-Day and I know what you're.

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[00:09:14] And then it was very sad for the Canadian army, but they took that and they prepared for. The next year, saw the allies preparing for an all-out offensive. They wanted to get their troops in quickly to relieve some of the pressure on the Soviet forces in the east, but they didn't want to make the same mistakes as yet.

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[00:09:51] Many coastal land was considered, including Norway, Italy, and Dunkirk. However, the Germans had already prepared for an attack at all these locations. And [00:10:00] so the allies eventually agreed on the beaches of Normandy just with its geography and like they had less German forces there. So it was probably the best chance they had to, to actually make a push and something I'd never thought of.

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[00:10:19] John: everybody.

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[00:10:26] John: small of a country. Germany is and had so much fricking firepower.

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[00:10:32] They're determined people. They want to be. It's scary. Not in a good way either. So let's clarify that before I get clipped out of context too late, Josh it's already happened. God damn it. I'm canceled. Yeah. Okay, he's back. I'm back. Uh, let's clap. Let's give it this time. It's broke my

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[00:10:58] Josh: we're building you back up.

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[00:11:22] Along the coast, the recom planes would take hundreds of pictures of the beach while the sea was at high tide, low tide and everywhere in between this allowed researchers and scientists to determine the grading of the sand and plan the best time of it. Now you're probably wondering how did they assess the beaches condition from the air?

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[00:12:00] So could you imagine like dead of night, it's new year's Eve and they're like you two have to go to show her and get sand because we need to know if we can land here. Oh, by the way, there's an entire German force. Just over that hill. Don't don't get. Like it would be very, very stressful. Can we just

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[00:12:29] Come on now. It's this shit just shit just writes itself.

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[00:12:49] Right. So you're really having to push. Crazy. So kudos to those do, uh, and they brought the sand back safe and sound. It was analyzed and discovered to be the perfect [00:13:00] sand for the tanks to maneuver on all of this analysis. And recon was not enough for the Americans because nothing ever is. There's my one shot today.

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[00:13:28] So in the mid 1943, they began searching for somewhere that they could run training missions for their troops, the idea being that they wanted their men to experience what real war was like before they got there, basically giving them pre P PTSD before giving them actual PTSD. Right? The training grounds they settled on were some beaches, just south of Devin, England called slapped insane.

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[00:14:12] The training exercise that resulted in 10 times more deaths than on Utah beach during D-Day. Now this is a bit of an awkward transition, but John said, if I didn't put an ad break in here, he would eat me out of my house and send a tiger after me. So, uh, please enjoy some ads from the lovely sponsors that keep this podcast going.

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[00:14:32] John: is it always me?

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[00:14:39] And we are back, John, does that, does that add breaks, satisfy your insatiable need for money, you know?

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[00:14:49] Josh: right. Those front row, WWE tickets don't pay for themselves. Josh. He calls it a business expense, but I know the truth. Anyway, [00:15:00] back to back to world war II. So the Americans are preparing for a series of exercises on slapped and beaches to prepare for what we now know is D-Day where the allies stormed the beaches of Normandy.

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[00:15:42] It involved thousands of troops landing on and storming the beaches and to make the whole exercises realist. Eisenhower himself ordered the live fire to be used during the exercise, or it could possibly go possibly go wrong. Yeah. Yeah. You [00:16:00] know, smart man, maybe not as best decision, but, uh, the first half of the week, when it is plan, they, the troops remained on land, practicing disembarking from the boats and formation.

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[00:16:29] John: Military time. That's the

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[00:16:35] I think John might've taken it all kinda.

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[00:16:46] Josh: but that that's too early for me. Then I'll go with that. Does that sound? So the, the exercise was to include live ammunition and bombardments of the beach to take place 50 minutes before the ships arrived to acclimate [00:17:00] the troops to war, you know, get them used to.

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[00:17:28] So the ships communicated to the bombardment squad and told them to delay an hour as well. It makes sense. Right? You want to, you don't want them bombarding two hours before you arrive. That's just not smell. The smell is not there. The sounds aren't there. It's not the same hype, uh,

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[00:17:44] Josh: party or something.

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[00:18:09] This mistake was costly and resulted in over 400 deaths by friendly fire. Jesus. Yeah, not right. So, you know, already first burst exercise. Well first big exercise, and then it's already going this way. So it, it only gets worse from here. They said, let's keep going. Let's

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[00:18:31] John: friendly fire thing.

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[00:18:36] Josh: not back in the day. I, I don't know how they didn't communicate to all the boats. Like, Hey, don't, don't go in because tide's not high enough. I actually don't know why he called it an hour later. Maybe he wanted to sleep in a little. Either way, bad call and resulted in yet approximately over 400 deaths.

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[00:19:16] This should have never happened because HMS Symitar and HMS Azalea were actually assigned to a score at the convoy and keep an eye out for any Germany boats, obviously like it would be dumb to just say. These people, these men out there on armed, like these, these ships are just landing ships, right?

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[00:20:00] This left a gap, big enough for the German U-boats to sneak through. So it's just like, if something could go wrong, it goes wrong here. It is just not looking good and a kind of a dark omen on what actually ends up being a good thing. But we'll get to that. That's all. This is all within the span of two days.

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[00:20:44] Two of the LST sunk, and two more were severely damaged, confusion and chaos meant a slow response. But once they started firing back at the Germany boats, they began to retreat back into the English channel. So they did, you know, they managed to save some of the boats, uh, some of the men [00:21:00] in this terrible battle, however, approximately 700 men were killed and another 200 or so were in.

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[00:21:24] Now you may have noticed when I'm saying numbers, I say around or approximate, uh, because no one actually knows the official numbers. They've never been released by the Americans or by the UK government. And all of the survivors and witnesses were made to swear secrecy of the entire event. Now, obviously at the beginning it was to hide like D-Day, they were obviously training to do D day.

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[00:22:12] Yeah, don't worry. It gets better. We win the war. That's okay. Um, this entire debacle almost resulted in the allies canceling the attacks on D-Day because 10 officers were reported. Now you may say what's the big deal. 10 officer out of a thousand doesn't seem like much. Could you guys even hazard to guess why these 10 officers mattered so much?

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[00:22:33] John: were probably like command of certain attack groups maybe. And they knew the strategy of like what points they're responsible for.

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[00:22:49] Sean: military. Uh, most experience I have

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[00:22:54] John: I'll play, call a booty all the time, so,

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[00:22:58] Sean: I mean, yeah, I don't know. I just [00:23:00] imagined they were an important part of the strategy

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[00:23:04] Sean: you know, had been part of previous attacks on beaches

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[00:23:15] However, it was very top secret. Like they didn't know what they were training for. They were just training for, I mean, they probably could have assumed what it was, but these 10 officers were very few that knew the top secret plans of D-Day. Uh, so the English and the Americans were obviously very worried that the Germans had captured their men and knew about the.

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[00:24:00] None of that would have happened or that it would have been very less likely to happen because they would have been worried that the Germans were just waiting there for an assault, like the assault to happen. Thankfully, however, the bodies were found and the thousands of deaths weren't for nothing. Uh, the allies learned and adapted from the mistakes that they made that day standard frequencies were finally implemented and troops.

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[00:24:43] So to wrap it up, exercise tiger may have been a disaster, but they say mistakes make us stronger. And it definitely did for the allies. As on June 6th, 1944, the American Canadian and UK troops landed on the beaches. Normal. Learning and adapting from the [00:25:00] mistakes that cost thousands of soldiers lives.

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[00:25:15] Sean: It does make me want to go back and watch, uh, man, what was that? What was that movie? That was about the battle of Normandy had so many good actors and it was Brad Pitt in

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[00:25:24] What am I talking about, brothers? This is

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[00:25:29] Josh: mini series. Yeah.

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[00:25:33] Josh: Yeah.

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[00:25:35] Josh: bender. Yeah. I mean, there's a zillion movies made about it, but I don't think any have been made about them. That specific thing, the tire I've

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[00:25:47] I

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[00:25:47] Sean: like the Teigen where we would be much more disappointing than the, than the battle

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[00:25:52] John: because there's like, it's not really a triumphant one. It was just kind of like a test run that, you know, went wrong. [00:26:00] Oh,

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[00:26:01] Sean: We didn't tell what's his name. Oh shit. 400. Oh my well, let's keep going.

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[00:26:09] Josh: This was an hour and a half of broken telephone. You said what? Pillow?

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[00:26:18] Josh: I need my bath in the morning and this is taking too

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[00:26:25] Josh: Bodie. Boden. Boden. Yeah. Uh, Pope boy, no here.

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[00:26:45] Sean: they didn't teach these guys how to wear life Fest. You think that'd be pretty important for storming a beach?

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[00:27:06] John: I guess just hearing it, just, you know, the perspective of like being an armed service at some point, I think that's a common theme, even though war of course, war is just a whole, totally different beast.

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[00:27:40] So a lot of them kind of follows blindly, but at the same time, it's the leader's responsibility to have them fully prepared. And I see, I just see a lot of, and this is not to downplay some of the great leaders, but there's a lot that. Have that ineptitude to, to lead, especially when lives are involved.

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[00:28:07] He made this mistake where he was like, maybe we shouldn't use live rounds. That's like huge trust. Huge mistake. I don't know if that does help. I'm not a mental, like I'm not a psychologist. I'm not sure if actually going through battle helps you when you go through another battle, maybe it does like, there's that thing where you visualize the basket going in.

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[00:28:50] Right. Yup, absolutely.

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[00:29:12] And it's, it's sad because that's, someone's son, you know, that's someone's mother and we look back and it's just, yeah, it's heroic thinking about it, but I'm not trying to downplay like the situation that they were in, because it sounds like it is a vital exercise to have experience for them to eventually.

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[00:29:53] Yeah. That's, that's, that's what eats me up because that could have been me. It could've been, it could've been anyone who decided to like, [00:30:00] you know, take an oath of enlistment.

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[00:30:07] Josh: I

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[00:30:12] Sean: was a draft.

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[00:30:14] Josh: The world war. I don't know. I don't know if it was for American troops cause like, or the United Kingdom and like Canada and Australia. Cause we like, it was nearing the end of the war for us. You guys had just entered like couple of years prior. Um, so you guys were fresh. I don't know if you guys would have been drafting at that point or like yeah, mandatory draft.

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[00:30:46] John: you know, you know, America, we just got to stick our nose all the time.

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[00:31:09] Like, it definitely should be a thing along with D. And that is my rant for today. So thank you everyone for listening to this very sad episode. Next time I will do a fun one. I don't, I don't want to be known as the guy who does sad episodes. I'll do like an internet one or something where she have all the missing people.

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[00:31:30] Sean: you got

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[00:31:37] Yeah, I'll make us read fantasy someday. There it is. There it

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[00:31:46] Josh: Cookie based baking bread this week. Ooh, Bowden.

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[00:32:06] So be prepared every Monday for an episode. Straight to your ear holes. That's how I'm going to describe podcasts now. Oh God. So moist. If you still want more from us, you can follow us on Twitter and Instagram at Reddit on Wiki. Uh, Sean, let's hear your plugs and shout out anything you need to shout out.

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[00:32:27] Sean: episode did make me want to go back and watch like a ton of war movies and it, even though it is sad, it, it gets me in the mood to kind of. Like I recently watched 1917 and

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[00:32:42] Sean: different. Yeah. I can't remember where they cut. It looked like a one shot.

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[00:32:49] Josh: Like logistically. Yeah. To do this type of shit,

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[00:33:19] John: did you, you guys just did reaction one about that do with a big Dick, right? Ellis. Dude.

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[00:33:33] That's it

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[00:33:51] I'm like, I still refuse. I refuse to think it was to his knee, bro. I

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[00:34:00] John: think is your fucking research. My guy it's this.

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[00:34:14] No, I have not yet. Was it episode three, right episode three minute, 1950 seconds. Just blouse. God, I'll go watch it. And then, uh, next episode, we can, we can talk about it. I'll I'll give you my reaction. Maybe that'll be my topic. There you go. Just easy.

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[00:34:48] John: I'm telling you, you always try to hit me where it hurts, man. But yeah, this is my only show now. It's all good. But I actually, I just want to give a shout out to all our listeners, whether you're a dummy, whether you're a Fred, [00:35:00] whether you're a shoddy or now, hopefully we convert you to a Wiki maniac.

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[00:35:22] So please continue, continue to support us as best as possible if not financially. Cause I know times are rough, but if you can just hit us up and, you know, tweet at us, the Emma sleeveless review, that would go extremely far for us. So just want to say thank you to and shout out to everyone out there.

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[00:35:39] You did my outro better than I am. I've written down here.

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[00:35:48] Josh: That's it. I don't have, I, I now have to bless work today. So that is my main, my main concern. Yeah. Thank you everyone for listening again. And as John said, interaction, he, we love you guys.

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