Shownotes
Overview
The conversation examined how Octave’s Physical Security Group uses video, sensors, and AI to improve safety and operational awareness.Core Discussion
- Sunildescribed the group’s work across cameras, access control, fire alarms, HVAC systems, and other sensors in environments such as airports, casinos, manufacturing facilities, and critical infrastructure.
- AI can analyze live video for events such as smoking, forced entry, or environmental hazards, while adding context to distinguish normal conditions from unusual behavior.
Key Considerations
- Octaveis addressing privacy requirements that vary by region, including masking faces where facial recognition is restricted.
- Video integrity and chain of custody are maintained so footage can support investigations or legal proceedings.
- Physical security is increasingly integrated with industrial operations, helping validate equipment conditions, reduce risk, and preserve information across design, construction, operation, and protection.
Outline
Background
- Sunildiscussed his experience in video streaming, media production, and approximately four years withOctave’sPhysical Security Group.
Physical Security
- Cameras and sensors monitor access, safety events, environmental conditions, and operational anomalies.
- The group consolidates signals to help customers operate safer facilities.
AI And Privacy
- AI reviews live video and identifies potentially abnormal activity.
- Context and natural-language queries help reduce noise and improve alert relevance.
- Privacy practices differ by geography; facial masking is used where required.
Industrial Integration
- Cameras function as operational sensors alongside industrial equipment data.
- Security and operations are converging to support safer, more sustainable facilities and continuous improvement across the business lifecycle.
SUNIL MUDHOLKAR'S CONTACT INFORMATION:
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Build Freedom Summit, Galveston Texas, Barcelona Cybersecurity Congress, Industrial Talk, Octave Live, Physical Security, AI in video, facial recognition, global regulations, manufacturing safety, data integration, industrial professionals, technology solutions, networking opportunities.
00:00
Yep, I'm thinking about it. You're thinking about it. Everybody is thinking about it. What do we do to rebuild America's workforce? Restore America's capability? It's all hands on deck. We need solutions, and everybody needs to be part of the solution. Here's an event right there, right behind me, as you can tell, that's Build Freedom Summit. Yep, October 20 to the 21st. It's in Galveston Island Convention Center, Galveston, Texas. You just go out to BuildFreedomSummit.org, find out more. Be a part of the solution. Don't just sit on the sidelines and just complain because you can't find anybody. You need to be a part of it. I'll be there. I'll be broadcasting. I'll be speaking with some of the most passionate individuals that are focused on rebuilding America's workforce. Again, October 20 to the 21st, Galveston's Texas, you got to be there because I'm going to be there and I want to talk to you. See you there. All right. Before we get into the conversation, I want you to be aware of a conference that you need to put on your calendar, and you have time. It is the Barcelona Cybersecurity Congress. It is necessary. You need to up your cybersecurity game. You're connected. You need to make sure that you're protected right here. This event, Barcelona Cybersecurity Congress. It is November 3 through the fifth. You have time November 3 through the fifth this year in Barcelona, and I'm telling you right now, the team at Farah who put this particular Congress on, the best. You will not be disappointed. And you know what else you get to do? You get to network with some of the best cybersecurity professionals from around the world. You need to do this. You need to put this one on your calendar. All of the contact, all of the information is out on Industrial Talk. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be broadcasting. I'm going to be talking cybersecurity with the best in the world. So be there. Put this one on your calendar. That is November 3 through the fifth. I'll see you there.
02:23
Welcome to the Industrial Talk podcast with Scott Mackenzie. Scott is a passionate industry professional dedicated to transferring cutting-edge, industry-focused innovations and trends while highlighting the men and women who keep the world moving. So put on your hard hat, grab your work boots, and let's go!
02:41
All right, once again, welcome again to Industrial Talk. Thank you for your continued support of a platform that is dedicated to industrial professionals such as yourself. You're bold, brave. You dare greatly. You innovate. You collaborate. You're solving problems each and every day. That's why we celebrate you on Industrial Talk. You are the heroes in this story. That's why you are that special. Take it to the bank. We're broadcasting from Austin, Texas. Octave Live is the event, and it's the very first one. It's amazing. Love what's going on here at Octave Live, and I'm right outside the Octave Showcase, where it's showing all of the incredible technology, all of the solutions, all of the individuals who are all focused on your success-that's what they're all about. And speaking of that, in the hot seat, we have a gentleman by the name of Sunil. Last name Sunil. Hot Hooker. There you go. See, I couldn't say it like that. That's just outrageously cool. All right, he's with Octave. He's with the Physical Security Group. We're going to be talking about well, yep, Physical Security and the group. There it is. All right, let's get cracking. Sunil, sorry. See, here's the funny thing. I thought I was able to say your last name, then I wrote it down on my notes, and then I couldn't read my notes.
04:00
Don't worry about it. You won't be the first, and you won't be the last.
04:03
Well, I pride myself on at least trying, but when I looked at what I scribbled down, I said, "An idiot.
04:10
It's believe me, it's it's totally fine. It's I think I started with my kindergarten teachers, you know, trying to figure out how to pronounce it, and it's totally good.
04:21
Yeah, I got you. Good conference.
04:25
Yeah, it's.
04:27
Were you in Las Vegas last year?
04:29
Yes. So I was in Las Vegas last year. I was there for the whole time. This year, I came in actually. I missed the first day because my daughter had her eighth grade graduation of all things yesterday afternoon. So after graduation, hopped on a plane from Boston, got down here last night, and then was presenting to our our partners that we had this morning in a in a in a meeting.
04:50
Yeah, there you go. That's the the life of somebody in Octave. There you go. That's all good. All right. Before we get into what you. Do with Octave, we need to know a little bit about Sunil. Well, sure. Who are you?
05:06
Yeah.
05:07
Outside the fact that you look like you're 22.
05:09
Yeah, that the grays are filling in the sides fast. I feel like Polly Walnut from The Sopranos. I have no hair. It's getting there. I'll catch up. Shut up. Yeah. So let's see. I live in Boston. I've been in been in Octave and parts of Octave, I guess, prior to Octave for about four years now, give or take. I spent most of my career in some form of video. Earlier part of my career was on like the service provider side, so we built all sorts of systems for streaming video. If you ever use video on demand in your house, you browse your cable box. You wanted to watch something. When you wanted to watch it, you press play. Built a lot of that stuff. Hold
05:49
it. I digress here. How come some streaming services get the technology and it's there's no drama, and then the other streaming services that you want to watch from, for whatever reason, there's drama. Don't you think everybody would have similar technology? You would think so by now.
06:11
I spent the first like 15 years of my life trying to avoid that buffering circle of death.
06:15
Yes, I don't understand. Yeah. Okay.
06:19
No, you're 100 right. And then from there, I actually kind of similar to what you're doing right now. I was in media and entertainment production on the video side, so this is a pretty impressive multicam setup that you have here. So I'm all under
06:35
50 pounds per bag, so I don't get slammed by the airlines.
06:39
Yeah, can't the the baggage fees would kill your margins.
06:43
Absolutely, there you go. Yeah, and
06:45
then yeah, for four years or so, been here in the physical security group at at at at Octave, and still doing a lot of things with with video.
06:57
Okay, physical security group.
07:00
Yes,
07:01
of course. I don't know what that is. That's a that's a that's one of those miscellaneous type names. It's like it it can capture pretty much everything.
07:09
port, right? Where you've got:08:18
How has it changed? The thought that has come to mind is I, you you've seen it in all the old Las Vegas casino movies that they've always had cameras and they're always they've got a bank of whatever. How is it different from that?
08:35
eras, and nowadays you've got:10:27
Okay, I got I got I was writing stuff down because I I'm intrigued. Can AI? No, I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna go back. No, I'm going to go forward.
10:42
Go sideways.
10:43
Can can AI watch a video?
10:51
Kind of. So an AI can absolutely review a live video stream that's coming in from a camera, and provide information based on the signals that it sees in that video. It sees somebody smoking a cigarette in a place that they're not supposed to be. It sees somebody, you know, smashing on a door. It sees an environmental hazard, so we can detect those signals. You know, as part of the the just the AI quote unquote watching the video. Absolutely, what it what really we're trying to do is is bring all of those signals together to put some context around the situation. Right? Maybe it's okay for that guy to be smoking there. Maybe it's normal that during a rainstorm water collects in this area, and that's fine. But what's not normal is smoke in an area where people aren't supposed to be smoking, or water in an area where there is not expected to be water. And that's the thing that we're working on today: is trying to get the software to learn, not not just read the signals in the video, but actually learn what's normal and what's not normal, put some context around it, and then tell you, hey, something Scott is happening out of context, and you should know about it.
12:15
Do you have conversations around, for lack of a better term, big brother.
12:24
Yes, watching. And you know, I I don't have
12:29
an opinion. All I just know is like, yeah, there you go.
12:32
Yeah, yes, opinions vary. Yeah, and opinions vary, especially depending on where you are in the globe, we do a lot of our so good example. This we use a lot. We do a lot of business in Europe. In Europe, facial recognition is generally frowned upon. And and again, I'm not arguing on which side of the the aisle you want to be on. Just as a matter of fact, privately identifiable information like your face is generally is generally frowned upon in use, and and in many you know governments and companies it's forbidden. You know an example of this is if you we have customers that are in the retail space, you want cameras in the break room because you want to see if there's something weird happening, maybe there's a fight or an employee has, or something. Yes, but what we are required to do is mask faces from those camera views. So that's you know well practiced, well known capabilities. In other parts of let's just say the U.S. facial recognition is a very widely used you know technology. It really depends on the environment. It depends on the situation. Depends on the context. But yeah, we definitely have Big Brother conversations.
13:46
It's interesting because you you guys are a global company, and and again, there are certain rules and regulations that exist in various parts of the world that you just have to be knowledgeable about and and be able to do it. What is always interesting, and you can definitely answer this question. It just seems because I'm being driven by Hollywood, and Hollywood's telling me that they can get videos and all this stuff. And but it's always lousy quality video.
14:16
Slop.
14:17
Yeah. Do we have better Video capabilities, yeah.
14:22
So it's funny because you know as the as the AI world has has has advanced, the ability to interact with it using less technical means has progressed remarkably. So now I can you know as as you can you can now interact with with the systems using very natural language-based queries. Hey, is there a dangerous situation happening in my office? If so, please let me know. Instead of having to say, oh, if this, then that, then do this, then do this, then do this. Right, right, right, right, right. And so, really, the the system will react. The system is at the point now where things will. React to how how well your your language is structured, basically. So I can sort of it's like it's like a situation where I can make it tell me whatever I want to make it, right? The question is, is I've got to learn how to structure my questions and my alerts in a way that actually makes sense and provide the context around what I'm trying to do because otherwise it will tell me everything, which is not useful at all either, right? So the the the good news is you know we take a lot of measurements in the system to make sure the integrity of the video never changes. So something that we capture from a camera when we store it and then potentially gets used as future evidence in a theft or a lawsuit or anything like that. We take very strong measures in our system to basically make sure that the integrity, the chain of custody, if you want to call it that, right, is really perfect from the moment we captured it to the moment it goes somewhere else, so that there is no room for slop, for lack of a better term, to get introduced in the system. That that's one of the things that you know we sort of pride ourselves on because it's super important. You've got to be able to trust what comes in and what comes up. A
16:10
lot of the conversations that that is happening here is is the the integration of all of this wonderful tech in some way, shape, or form from an industrial perspective, being able to communicate, pull the data, provide insights-all of that wonderful. It's all great. I don't get me wrong. I think it's good. I think it's tremendous lifting. There's a lot of heavy lifting. How do you see the the physical Security component, working in and and interacting with some of the other applications that are within the family of Octave Technologies.
16:53
So, look, your your your the industry slogan that you have right is is a perfect example, right? We are we are industry. For a long time, physical security existed as like a thing that happened in a closet somewhere. There were some cameras.
17:12
Yeah,
17:12
they connected to something, and then some dude sitting in like a or dudette sitting in a in a in a closet somewhere like sat in front of this video wall and was like constantly watching what was going on, right? And it was this, like, oh yeah, those people over there, and that has changed, I think, pretty significantly over the last couple years. If you think of it, a camera is a sensor, like anything else. If I'm building a factory and I'm making machines or I'm doing machinery or something, I've got all sorts of sensors and electrical wires and conduits and all sorts of things that help me build whatever it is that I'm building. And you have sensors in that system that tell you if what you're building is going to come out right. I've got pressure gages. I've got levers and whistles and bells. I got all sorts of things that tell me, hey, yeah, this widget that you're going to produce or this thing that you're going to produce, this energy or whatever, it's going to come out the way you expect. A camera, for us, is just another sensor that provides validation on what's going on. So what we see happening is, as the industry progresses, things that were in the kind of operational side of things, making sure the stuff that I built worked right and had the right quality, they're now bringing in the physical security world for for two reasons. One is the camera is a great sensor. There's something going wrong. My gage is telling me it's off. My reading is telling me it's off. Oh, odds are I probably have a camera in that very expensive manufacturing facility, that can actually look at what's going on and say, "Is something wrong there? So there's visual confirmation. That's one. And then the second thing is, the world is very expensive when mistakes happen, especially in these high-intensity environments, manufacturing environments, things like that. It's very expensive, costly to make mistakes, And a very a secure infrastructure, a secure facility, greatly reduces the risks of those mistakes happening. People people being in places and getting hurt where they shouldn't be, you know, things like that. And so we see these worlds are converging in a way that we haven't seen before. And the people that kind of lived in this isolated physical security world are now sort of in the mainstream operations in these places.
19:26
It's an interesting future. It's it's got it's got. I wish I was younger, and I wish I wish wish I would about 25 like you are, and with all of this great conversations that's taking place within the within Octave, and and being able to innovate more. What does that future hat look like for your your business? Where are we going with this?
19:52
I think where we're going is for a long time. These big industries were were built and then constructed and operated and then ultimately what we say protected, and they were four very different parts of the life cycle of that company. Hey, I've got a bunch of people. We're going to design this place. Okay, great. Here are the plans. Now I've got a bunch of people here. We're gonna go build this place, and the plans were handed off, and something was built. And then, hey, I'm gonna now we're gonna now that this thing is built, we're gonna go operate it. We're gonna go use it, and there were some things that were handed off from one to the other. And then the last step was, oh yeah, you know, we spent a lot of money building this thing and designing this thing. All of a sudden, we should probably make sure it's safe or it's protected. And those were like, you know, somebody somewhere, some team somewhere else, some team somewhere else, some team somewhere else, and in between all of those spaces, tons of information is lost. How do you do this? How do you do that? We designed it this way so that we thought you could operate it this way, and what what what I see is that those now become this constant loop of always improving the business from all from the design phase all the way to the protect part, and you improve it little steps along the way, and that will make for a much more sustainable and healthy business as opposed to kind of how things used to be done and then handed off like a like a baton, you know, at the Olympics and the track meeting, these are just going to be a continuous race that you run.
21:25
Yeah, the holy grail is to be able to take all the data that you could possibly imagine, being able to bring it into some sort of a common platform, wherever that is, slap some algorithms and AI solutions on it, contextualize it, and then allow me to be successful. And that's that's a that's a tremendous amount of work.
21:50
It is it is work. It is fun because it's a challenge. It's a great time. Yep, it
21:55
is. I don't have any issues with it. I really don't. It's you know it's so funny being in industry for such a long time, this has always been a conversation. We have all this data, we just didn't have the technology to be able to just sort of grind through it. You know, we just didn't. We just knew it existed. We knew there was possible gold in that data. We just couldn't mine it. We just couldn't get
22:18
it out. All said,
22:19
you know. But now we can. Seems like a switch just went off. Like we couldn't do it one day, and then all of a sudden, look at us, man. We can do it. Somebody's out there. Yeah, we can do it. Sunil, how do people get a hold of you?
22:31
You can find me on LinkedIn. I'm generally on there, so
22:34
outstanding. Outstanding. You were great. See, that's cool stuff. I always think of Las Vegas. I think I think of the that picture coming from what was it? Circus, Circus. I think it was James Bond. Yeah, like there it is. All right, you're great. Thank you again. All right, we're gonna have all the contact information for Zooma out on Industrial Talk. So fear not. You'll be able to reach out for him. Go after industrialtalk.com. Don't ask me. Don't say, "Hey, Scott, I can't get a hold of them, because you're not out on industrial talk. Or just find them on LinkedIn. It's all out there. All right. Once again, we're broadcasting from Octave Live here, right outside the Octave Showcase Center, right there. Looking around. Yeah, it's all good stuff. We're gonna wrap it up on the other side. Stay tuned. We will be right back.
23:22
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23:27
Yep, this is on everybody's mind. Power generation. How do we satisfy the power generation requirements in a market that's expanding, in a market that's focusing on data center, in a market that needs power yesterday, Power Gen is the event for you. You get to collaborate. You get to collaborate with some of the best in the world. It is January 18th through the 21st. It is in Salt Lake City. All the contact, all the information is out on Industrial Talk. It is a must. I will be there. I will be broadcasting. I will be having the conversation from leaders that are shaping the future. That's Power Gen, january 18 through the 21st, Salt Lake City. See you there. Yeah, that was Octave Live. As you could tell, you were listening to the podcast Octave Live. It was a barn burner, in a good sense, of an event. And looking at all of the technology, talking to all of the people, they are driven by passion, and that passion is your success. You need to check them out. You go on octave.com, find out whatever you got going, but you know what you need to put at the very top. The very top is that you need to connect with Sunil. Yeah, he knows what he's talking about. I really, I really enjoyed the conversation around that that physical security, that security, safety, and and operational. Insights and how technology has helped, you know, making that a success. It's all there. I I think it's going to be great. Sunil, check him out. Connect with him. All right, industrial talk is always here for you. You have a storage cell? Yes, you do. If you're an industry, you have a story to tell, and it has to be shared. We at Industrial Talk, we're a media company, we're a we're a marketing company, we are a PR company, all focused on your success. You need more ears. You need more eyeballs on what you do. It's it's the bottom line. You need to succeed, and we'll do everything that we can from an industrial perspective because that's well, that's our pedigree. That's what we do. All right, be bold, be brave, dare greatly, hang out, check out Octave, hang out with Sunil, and you will be changing the world. Guarantee. We're gonna have another great conversation coming from Octave. So stay tuned.
