"Stick to a format and a release schedule for your podcast!"
Evo Terra:is the common refrain.
Evo Terra:But consumption habits change throughout the year.
Evo Terra:Are we sacrificing opportunity in the name of making evergreen content?
Evo Terra:Hello, and welcome to another Podcast Pontifications with me, Evo Terra.
Evo Terra:Maybe we're wrong about evergreen content.
Evo Terra:People's habits change throughout the year, as I just said, at
Evo Terra:least for some things, right?
Evo Terra:I mean, consumerism, if you want to use that term, because that's what we live
Evo Terra:in every day, for a great many products and services is quite seasonal in nature.
Evo Terra:Now, commodities aren't greatly impacted by the seasons.
Evo Terra:I probably buy the same amount of paper towels and toilet paper, generally
Evo Terra:speaking, throughout the year.
Evo Terra:I don't - maybe a little bit more around the holidays, but
Evo Terra:most of the time it's the same.
Evo Terra:But for other goods, especially specialty goods and services, seasons affect us.
Evo Terra:So is your podcast a commodity or is it special?
Evo Terra:For years I've given the advice, as many of my fellow podcasting
Evo Terra:consultants and pundits have said before, make evergreen content.
Evo Terra:Wherever possible, make evergreen content.
Evo Terra:Don't mention dates if you can avoid it.
Evo Terra:Don't time block your show by saying things like "next month"
Evo Terra:or "last week," even though I violate that rule all the time.
Evo Terra:But such is life for the daily podcast, I suppose.
Evo Terra:But for the most part, many of us want to make timeless episodes.
Evo Terra:Google loves timeless episodes.
Evo Terra:And just the nature of on demand content that podcasting is, we don't
Evo Terra:know when someone's going to choose to download and listen or when they
Evo Terra:discover it, so we want to make it with as few date-based timestamps or
Evo Terra:maybe even speed bumps as possible.
Evo Terra:But I got to rethinking that recently, at least for some shows.
Evo Terra:At least for some shows because of that very real impact seasons have on us as
Evo Terra:consumers, which I previously mentioned.
Evo Terra:And podcast listeners are not immune to those same forces that impact them all
Evo Terra:day long during those seasonal changes.
Evo Terra:But if your podcast doesn't?
Evo Terra:Hmmm.
Evo Terra:So I'm rethinking this and I've got some recommendations, I think.
Evo Terra:And it's not, however, a one-size-fits-all examination or recommendation.
Evo Terra:It starts with an examination, which is where I was going, and that is to examine
Evo Terra:your show and see if seasonal consumerism plays a role in your audience's lives
Evo Terra:and the content you're relating with.
Evo Terra:It plays a role in everyone's lives.
Evo Terra:But the content they're consuming, is it also perhaps impacted
Evo Terra:by that seasonality for them?
Evo Terra:Now, you can't look at download stats to find out are more people listening
Evo Terra:in July than they are in January.
Evo Terra:No, that's not what I'm talking about.
Evo Terra:I mean look at the industry or the segment that your content is a part of and see
Evo Terra:if there is a natural seasonality to it.
Evo Terra:I'm going to give you two examples here.
Evo Terra:One's a very extreme example and the other ones are less so.
Evo Terra:The extreme example is the easy one.
Evo Terra:Let's say the podcast that you make is about a sports team or a
Evo Terra:specific sport in and of itself.
Evo Terra:Alright, if that's the case, you're probably already doing this.
Evo Terra:But for the rest, let me explain.
Evo Terra:You want to lean into that season.
Evo Terra:And I think you even want to adapt your episodes to fluctuate
Evo Terra:with that seasonal change.
Evo Terra:So yes, you should absolutely, during the season going on and playing games,
Evo Terra:you should absolutely talk about yesterday's game when that's happening.
Evo Terra:Absolutely.
Evo Terra:Or yesterday's games if it were.
Evo Terra:And then when the post-season comes around, switch up your episodes,
Evo Terra:switch up the way you produce an episode because it's post-season now.
Evo Terra:And then during the off-season, maybe you're doing deep-dives,
Evo Terra:profiles, if you will, on the players because it's off-season.
Evo Terra:And maybe even in the off-season, rethink your episode output.
Evo Terra:Maybe you're doing it every week during the real season, but in the
Evo Terra:off-season, do you need to do it weekly?
Evo Terra:Do you have to?
Evo Terra:I mean, you could, but people's attention are not quite as much on the sport then.
Evo Terra:And then when pre-season begins again, kick things back into high gear, get
Evo Terra:back on your regular release schedule.
Evo Terra:And if you do it that way, think about all of those episodes that you
Evo Terra:did, think about packaging up those episodes into that season and then
Evo Terra:really making a season out of your podcast, as well, that follows that
Evo Terra:sports team or that sport season.
Evo Terra:That becomes a very cool time capsule for true fans who want to say what happened
Evo Terra:in 2016 with this particular team?
Evo Terra:You've got it all sized up there.
Evo Terra:That's the extreme example.
Evo Terra:Let's do the base, the much, much less extreme example.
Evo Terra:What about a particular city?
Evo Terra:Or maybe that's what your podcast covers.
Evo Terra:I used to be the host of the Bangkok Podcast.
Evo Terra:We covered Bangkok.
Evo Terra:We kept our content pretty evergreen.
Evo Terra:Maybe we shouldn't have.
Evo Terra:Maybe we should have changed that up based on the travel that comes into
Evo Terra:this very big travel destination city.
Evo Terra:Or maybe around certain events when a city is buzzing and that's
Evo Terra:what everything is all about.
Evo Terra:We could have talked about what's happening right now with the weather,
Evo Terra:because Bangkok has seasons, weird seasons, hot season and the wet season.
Evo Terra:And there's also a quieter part when people are leaving town and stuff.
Evo Terra:We could talk more about these things or even cover what happens in your
Evo Terra:town when the tourists aren't there.
Evo Terra:Again, that's leaning into the seasons and actually modifying your content
Evo Terra:to fit where they actually live.
Evo Terra:I said I was gonna give you two examples.
Evo Terra:I decided I'm gonna give you three because those are really kind of extreme.
Evo Terra:I think even your show possibly might be more subtly impacted
Evo Terra:by seasons than you think.
Evo Terra:Like, if you're doing a personal finance show and you're not
Evo Terra:talking about the tax season?
Evo Terra:Hmm.
Evo Terra:Or you've got a family-friendly or even a family-focused show, and you're
Evo Terra:not covering back-to-school issues?
Evo Terra:I don't mean shopping, I just mean the changes in people's lives
Evo Terra:around back-to-school, wherever back-to-school is, or whenever
Evo Terra:back-to-school is for them.
Evo Terra:See, shows like this that are influenced by, but not dominated by a season, a more
Evo Terra:subtle approach is required for those.
Evo Terra:And this is where very cool dynamic content insertion, that most podcast
Evo Terra:platforms are jumping on board with right now, can really come into play.
Evo Terra:You can drop in those seasonal things and then take them out when that season is
Evo Terra:over without impacting your main content.
Evo Terra:Or maybe you are producing full episodes that lean into that season
Evo Terra:that are designed to be short-lived and will actually disappear from your
Evo Terra:feed after a certain period of time.
Evo Terra:Maybe you relegate them to a bonus content section on your website
Evo Terra:or something only members have.
Evo Terra:I don't know.
Evo Terra:But I think we need to rethink this one-size-fits-all approach and demand
Evo Terra:that we all use evergreen content.
Evo Terra:Because seasons and the way seasons impact our listeners
Evo Terra:could have an impact on our show.
Evo Terra:It might be a good way to start.
Evo Terra:And I think this certainly starts by you deciding whether or not you're
Evo Terra:really making evergreen content or not, and whether or not you should be.
Evo Terra:Now, that's a question that might be very hard for you to answer.
Evo Terra:So once again, I encourage you to check in with your peers.
Evo Terra:Send them this episode.
Evo Terra:See what they think about the idea of re-seasoning for some of the reasons
Evo Terra:I talked about here, and share ideas and opinions about each other's shows.
Evo Terra:Maybe there's something you could do here as well.
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Evo Terra:in season - ice coffee, hot coffee.
Evo Terra:Doesn't matter.
Evo Terra:Anyhow, I'm getting off topic.
Evo Terra:So that is it.
Evo Terra:I shall be back tomorrow with yet another Podcast Pontifications.