In Episode #08, Jef Szi welcomes the high energy and creative Ned Schaut to the podcast. In Getting Beyond Good Ned reflects on his his adventuresome father Richard, whose long-leash and experience focused fathering style contrasted with his mother’s strong religious values and morality.

Through his stories about growing up in a tiny Northern California town of Hidden Valley, spending massive amounts of time outdoors with his brother, and having long summer roadtrips with his family, we come to learn how Ned found his way between the unique parenting value sets each of his parents provided him. We also discover the important influence his faith played in his development and sense of self.

We come to learn how Ned’s dream to create an out of this world youth center imploded into something far more important, waking up to the gifts in fatherhood. Being the father of five children turned out to be the overlooked opportunity to affirm Ned’s search for meaning and value in his life.

Embracing the hidden treasure of fatherhood brought about a wave of creativity in Ned’s life. Writing the books Rebel and Create and Fatherhood Legacy Journal, as well as creating the Fatherhood Fieldnotes Podcast with more than 140 episodes followed his life-changing insight.

You're invited to listen in as we journey with an affable and open man on the road of fatherhood and faith, who is finding for himself that a father's teachings can be sitting there, patiently waiting for us to discover them.