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363 : EJ Kaga – Hire a project Manager first, then hire out a team
10th December 2018 • eCommerce Momentum Podcast • eCommerce Momentum Podcast
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Have you ever dreamed of leaving? Not just your office or warehouse. Have you dreamed of getting away? Really away? Well EJ and his wife have done just that. He has stepped away from the United States and is running his 7 figure Amazon business currently from Thailand. I think most people stop at the dreaming stage because it seems like an all or nothing when EJ will tell you its really not. See he works everyday, has a planning call everyday from another country. There are many lessons in this episode. Start dreaming…….

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EJ:                                           [00:00]                     I mean, it’s still a work in progress. I mean, we’re currently have a team of uh, asx. Um, so it’s just, you know, I think the hardest part is always just making sure everybody’s up to speed, you know, the amount of information or amount of knowledge that most Amazon sellers have or experienced sellers have is, is, you know, pretty extensive. So really allocating that time to train people properly and get them up to speed is, it takes a long time. I mean, it took us about a year to really get

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Stephen:                             [01:37]                     And it’s the tool we’re using right now. It is so current for us. And that’s why I had to pop them up first. The second sponsor I want to talk about is Gaye Lisby’s million dollar group. Um, it’s mind blowing now. It’s q four and it’s, you know, just came off of black Friday and all that jazz. Um, and I, I get excited, I see the posts in there, I’m in the group. And so if you join, you’re going to see me in there. But what’s so cool is I saw somebody, you know, hit their million dollar number and everybody was celebrating, but what’s even cooler for me, if somebody hit their $250,000 number, it’s not that long ago when we all hit that number and it starts to get to that place where you’re making, you know, 50, 60, $70,000, all of a sudden this starts to be real.

Stephen:                             [02:19]                     This starts to be a real business that looks like a can support your family and that UC opportunity, don’t forget those days. And so I get so excited when I saw that for that person. I’m like, yes, they’re going to get there. You know, they need to get over that $30,000 a month number. We always say is a big number. Be pleased to get to and they’re getting their engaged group. So you want to join, it’s free two weeks free. Okay? So if you go to amazing freedom.com, forward slash is tough. One momentum with a hyphen, arbitrage, momentum, hyphen arbitrage. You get two weeks free to join the group, join the group. You’re lucky luke. And start to change your and start to change your future. Um, great sellers get even better. It’s so cool to see likeminded people helping each other, even though they’re competitors now, they’re not price fixing or any of that nonsense, but what they’re doing is saying, hey, have you thought about this or have you adjusted for this?

Stephen:                             [03:16]                     Have you considered this? Or Hey, you know, steven has a problem and I got to bring it up to somebody while I want to talk to somebody who knows what I’m talking about, who’s not going to get me off the wall? Advice. Well, the business journals say, I don’t care about any of Chaz. I want somebody who has done it. And so that’s what’s so exciting about this group. So again, it is amazing. Freedom.com, forward slash momentum, hyphen arbitrage, and get two weeks free. Join, come and say hi. Send me a note. It’s getting into the podcast. Welcome back to the ECOMMERCE momentum podcast. This is episode 363 Ega Kaga. Now Ega was on before and you should go listen to a story because it’ll blow you away. And it’s 100 percent true and it’s so cool when you’re out with them and he gets recognized and blah, blah, blah.

Stephen:                             [04:01]                     However, he has not here ejs on Sabbatical. Ega is running his multiple seven figure business from another continent. Um, he’s definitely taking that step that a whole bunch of us would love to take to location independent step. Um, but the way he done it, he has done it. He walks through and you’re not pepper and a whole bunch of questions like, what did you do? Well, how to do this because I just think it’s so cool. Um, I think the takeaway has to be is that, you know, it’s, you got to build a roadmap, right? It kind of makes sense and you’ve got to start building that roadmap now. And guess what it means, getting some standard operating procedures, getting people trained, getting people you can trust and rely and all that kind of jazz stuff that we know, but he’s doing it. And so, um, I think it’s this great opportunity to learn. And Man, what a great guy who’s just stepped out and is doing it. So exciting to say, let’s get into a podcast. All right, welcome back to the ECOMMERCE momentum podcast. Very excited about today’s guest because it’s very late where I am and it’s very early where he is and I don’t think most people even have a clue that he has ditched us. He has gotten a better offer. He has figured out that it’s time for him to move on for now. Ega Cago. Welcome becky. J.

Stephen:                             [05:21]                     It’s killing well, not as well as you. Um, and, and it, there’s so many stories I want to talk about, but first I just want to say this, this has a episode one 85. Go back and listen to his story to blow you away. It’ll let you realize that you can hit the pinnacle of what you think is what you want to do and then you say, Eh, maybe not, and you can change if you have abilities. And, uh, I think everybody has abilities, is figuring out where your abilities are in this ecommerce world is the key. Um, you can start over and start over into incredible success and, uh, you’ve some incredible success. So I applaud you for that and when I went back and looked at our last episode, we talked about planning and it’s so funny because of this conversation we’re going to have you, we’re all about the plan. You were like, Hey, I’m going to plan this out because you’re methodical, you’re that way. Your whole life has been a plan, hasn’t it?

EJ:                                           [06:15]                     Um, I would say yes and no. It’s not maybe a perfect plan that’s drawn out to a t, but for some reason I always end up where I foresee, you know, six months down the road if things end up kind of working its way out. Um, you know, sometimes I wish I were more organized or more methodical like you said, but you know, at the end of the day, like all the things that we’ve always kind of planned for or wanted to do, they ended up kind of just falling into place. So, you know,

Stephen:                             [06:47]                     no, I don’t know, I’m an ss because do you do you say, okay, these five things have to happen for the plan to work. And while we both know that there’s 100 little mini things in there that are supposed to happen that you, as you say, you’re not necessarily planning for, but those five big things are the important things that you’re able to pull out and say, okay, these have to happen to rest, will happen in good times, bad times, whatever. Is that kind of the way it seems to work for you?

EJ:                                           [07:15]                     Um, maybe slightly, you know what I mean? You know, my personality is it,

Stephen:                             [07:19]                     you’re very laid back, very chill.

EJ:                                           [07:24]                     Um, but I kinda just, you know, things I don’t know, they just have a way of working themselves out. Um, maybe it’s a subconscious thing that, you know, okay, we want to do this and we kind of just put all the, you know, we kind of tackled one thing at a time. Obviously this, this, this trip that we, we may now obviously this has a little bit more planning and it probably took us, you know, two, three months to really solidify. But once we have a plan, like once we have a goal, it’s kind of just like, okay, like we need to do this, we need to do that. Um, I’ve kind of been always kind of take things at the edge of my seat so to speak. So when we want to do something, it’s like, okay, let’s just do it. I don’t know, I don’t like plan it like a year ahead and it’s just like, okay, now how do we do this right now because it’s a bit too far. But once we put our head down to, to, to get something done, you know, we kind of just execute and go from there.

Stephen:                             [08:15]                     Well, I guess we should tell people that Emj is no longer in the u. s he is now today. And Tyler, you just got back from Costa Rica for a couple of weeks or Dominican Republic? Dominican Republic, right. For a couple of weeks. And then, uh, you, you know, get your place ready, uh, to rent and then your head to Thailand. And how long are you going to be in Thailand?

EJ:                                           [08:44]                     Six months.

Stephen:                             [08:45]                     Six months. Oh, let me do now, wait a second, six months you’re gone. And I guess we should also say yes, you’re a large Amazon seller, a seller in 95 percent, a private label, five percent wholesale. I’m from Thailand now. You’re still packing boxes, putting labels on and sending them over. Yay. I think that’s the thing. I think people have to sit back and say, okay, now to be fair, you’re not going to be. Or at least, you know, without a lot of effort going to be the biggest seller on Amazon. Now, given that you’re taking six months in Thailand because that has to affect your business a little bit.

EJ:                                           [09:27]                     Um, yes and no. I mean what were the past year? I’ve really dedicated time to build a team. So that helps tremendously. So, you know, I, I’m trying to just focus on the bigger picture items and you know, just keeping things pushing along because I think that was part of it, the, I guess, plan, so to speak, to, to move out here, you know, I needed to make sure that the company was like a checklist place.

Stephen:                             [09:59]                     You’re giving up, you’re giving up that giant Amazon $100, million dollar business to spend six months in China. Uh, in a Thai, Thailand. You get what I’m saying is that basically there’s a, there’s always a cost to something. And so because of the way you’re designing your life today for these six months, at least you have to give up something. And for you it’s right. You think it think it’s still possible.

EJ:                                           [10:28]                     I mean like I don’t, I don’t think financially it’s not possible to reach that goal. But um, I think the goals that we have that we had when we were in the states are the same goals that we have here. No kidding. So, okay, so you don’t to see a trade off at all? No, I wouldn’t sacrifice the business to have, you know, I guess this opportunity, right, because like I’m putting in the same amount of hours, it’s just, you know, what, what’s the difference from me working at home in New Jersey than working in an apartment here in Thailand. Right. You know, I don’t see the difference or at least I haven’t seen it and actually kind of it puts me in a bitter. I’m less wasteful the time because there are things I want to do here, you know, when I’m back at home, it’s just like, oh I can, I can basically sit at the computer. But like, you know, there’s nothing really for me to do so to speak. Right. I don’t not like, oh, I’m not like gun in to go see something or try something new or eat something. So it’s like, you know, you’re kind of, I at least I was kind of wasteful of time. I’m a deficiency by moving them that I need to and it’s, it’s, it’s more focused work.

Stephen:                            

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