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Speaker:Attention gifters bakers,
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Speaker:Here is your host gift biz gal,
Speaker:Sue moon Heights.
Speaker:I dare it Sue,
Speaker:And thanks for spending some time with me today,
Speaker:right? Smack dab in the middle of holiday sales season,
Speaker:maybe you're listening as you're packing up and shipping out orders.
Speaker:I hope you have some holiday music playing,
Speaker:maybe a nice cup of cocoa or something special to remember
Speaker:that all of this hard work,
Speaker:although super busy can be enjoyable to find some things that
Speaker:make you smile and add them to your environment to make
Speaker:this time special for you too,
Speaker:because you deserve that.
Speaker:Look, you're running around like crazy to ensure everyone else has
Speaker:a festive holiday and yours should be too.
Speaker:For me.
Speaker:It's holiday scented candles and cinnamon or peppermint flavored coffee in
Speaker:the mornings.
Speaker:Maybe even a straight trip to Starbucks for a desserty drink
Speaker:like a peppermint white chocolate mocha latte.
Speaker:Oh, Yom.
Speaker:I can see that.
Speaker:Now. Point is it's the holidays.
Speaker:You guys let's grab our share of the joy to this
Speaker:attention, to how you consciously manage through your days leads right
Speaker:into our topic,
Speaker:not just for the holidays,
Speaker:but for every day of the year,
Speaker:the conversation we're going to get into today revolves around focus,
Speaker:overwhelm, and stress.
Speaker:But in a way that I think will bring you relief
Speaker:and a way of coping with these feelings that let's face
Speaker:it. We all have from time to time to varying degrees.
Speaker:I had some insight myself.
Speaker:When I was talking with Sean,
Speaker:I am now defining myself as an introverted extrovert.
Speaker:Perhaps you are too.
Speaker:Let's see.
Speaker:Okay, Today it is my pleasure to bring you Sean Roni.
Speaker:As a life coach,
Speaker:Sean educates to increase awareness and coaches to help uncover obstacles
Speaker:that may be causing overwhelm and stress certified through the life
Speaker:coach school and the international ADHD coach training center.
Speaker:She helps clients reduce stress by learning how to better manage
Speaker:their minds.
Speaker:She's driven by the desire to help neurodivergent minds access their
Speaker:brilliance. As a creative serial entrepreneur,
Speaker:she's owned a dance studio,
Speaker:a furniture repurposing business,
Speaker:and created a product called twinkle ties before becoming a coach
Speaker:as an introverted extrovert,
Speaker:she'll stay home and read or hit the town and boogie
Speaker:down with the best of them.
Speaker:Her favorite ways to spend time are reading and playing board
Speaker:games or spending time outside with her adult children,
Speaker:husband, and their dogs.
Speaker:Ms. Owen mojo,
Speaker:Sean, welcome to the gift biz unwrapped podcast.
Speaker:Thank you Sue for having me.
Speaker:I'm so excited to have this conversation.
Speaker:I am too.
Speaker:And we were talking a little bit in the pre-chat about
Speaker:how we did an episode,
Speaker:just a little bit back on stress reduction and everybody was
Speaker:all over that show.
Speaker:So it worked out so perfectly that we're together again,
Speaker:and we can continue the conversation in a little bit of
Speaker:a different vein timing.
Speaker:Couldn't be better.
Speaker:Wonderful. Yeah.
Speaker:And as we get started,
Speaker:I always begin by having our guests share themselves in a
Speaker:little bit of a different way,
Speaker:and that is through a motivational candle.
Speaker:So if you were to form a candle,
Speaker:that's all about you.
Speaker:Sean, tell us what your motivational candle would look like by
Speaker:color and quote.
Speaker:So the color would be orange.
Speaker:And what stood out to me with orange is it's bright.
Speaker:It's bold,
Speaker:it's warm the quote.
Speaker:I actually kind of have two because one feels more motivational
Speaker:than the other.
Speaker:So the motivational piece of it is life.
Speaker:Isn't about finding yourself.
Speaker:Life is about creating yourself and it's paid George Bernard Shaw.
Speaker:And what goes with that is never follow an unscarred general
Speaker:into battle.
Speaker:That was initially my quote.
Speaker:And I'm like,
Speaker:it's just not super motivational.
Speaker:If you just listen to it.
Speaker:I actually don't know who quoted it originally.
Speaker:I heard a woman named Amanda Ellis speak about it.
Speaker:It stands out to me because I think people often look
Speaker:to others as experts that don't share their same life struggle.
Speaker:And I see that a lot.
Speaker:I think with the people that I work with.
Speaker:So keeping in mind,
Speaker:never follow an uninspired general into battle.
Speaker:You want to find someone who has been there before that
Speaker:kind of guide you share your experience and guide you through.
Speaker:And I think you're right.
Speaker:If they share struggles that you have,
Speaker:you feel more connected with them and I'm sure you trust
Speaker:them more because of that shared experience,
Speaker:what also popped out to me when you were saying that
Speaker:is always have to be careful of who you follow,
Speaker:because especially right now online,
Speaker:everybody can state whatever they want,
Speaker:right? And so there's so many people online who are doing
Speaker:things or teaching things that they haven't done before.
Speaker:And we all know the truth behind all of this is
Speaker:it's not a hundred percent perfect for sure.
Speaker:That's one thing I think within our community here,
Speaker:I called the audience gifters bakers,
Speaker:crafters, makers,
Speaker:listeners. You guys know that that's you.
Speaker:We always want everything to be perfect because we're making it
Speaker:with our own hands.
Speaker:And it represents us from a soul level,
Speaker:almost the products that we make.
Speaker:We've got to know that starting a business and running things
Speaker:is never,
Speaker:always going to be perfect.
Speaker:So true.
Speaker:Yes. Following somebody and trusting somebody who's shared where they've struggled,
Speaker:I think is really important.
Speaker:So I love both your quotes,
Speaker:but I wanted to just extend my thoughts onto the second
Speaker:one. So Shawn talked to us a little bit about your
Speaker:journey and how you got to be a life coach.
Speaker:Yes. So I was the person who never knew what they
Speaker:wanted to be when they grow up to the point that
Speaker:I actually gave presentations to my middle school on career day
Speaker:about that subject.
Speaker:And so I think my career path was really in many
Speaker:ways, not typical,
Speaker:which kind of goes along with,
Speaker:I think how I described myself and how I function so
Speaker:many different career paths.
Speaker:I started in child development.
Speaker:I wanted to be a psychologist.
Speaker:And then I did everything in between the road,
Speaker:went many different directions until I ended up as a coach.
Speaker:And it was after I hired my first coach actually.
Speaker:And it had made such a difference for me that I
Speaker:then turned around and wanted to offer the same thing to
Speaker:others. I think the common thread through it all was that
Speaker:I was always kind of coaching people,
Speaker:no matter what role I was in,
Speaker:I was listening kind of in that coaching position,
Speaker:Were you the friend that everyone always turned to when they
Speaker:needed a shoulder to cry on words of advice,
Speaker:boyfriend, breakup,
Speaker:drama, all that.
Speaker:Yes. And I feel like the more obvious thing was like
Speaker:strangers, like strangers in the grocery store or like I would
Speaker:go to get my haircut and they'd say how you know,
Speaker:hairstylists are like therapists.
Speaker:They, they listen,
Speaker:I would actually reverse the roles.
Speaker:So I would be in the chair and feel like I
Speaker:was the one that was doing the coaching.
Speaker:Oh, that's so funny.
Speaker:I think it's so interesting how things that naturally came to
Speaker:us when we were growing up are things that we circled
Speaker:back to the talents that we had at one time.
Speaker:Even you probably didn't recognize this for yourself,
Speaker:that this could be something that you could do as a
Speaker:profession. That's so true.
Speaker:It's so interesting.
Speaker:I have to do this because I'm just so super curious.
Speaker:So we said in the intro,
Speaker:several of the businesses that you had,
Speaker:but one of them sparked my curiosity,
Speaker:which was your product,
Speaker:twinkle ties.
Speaker:Can you tell us what that was?
Speaker:Yes. It was a product that I created to keep tap
Speaker:shoe ties together.
Speaker:They were giant gemstones,
Speaker:basically acrylic stones,
Speaker:basically a super fancy ponytail holder that I repurposed into a
Speaker:tie for tap shoes.
Speaker:So that children like five and under could just slip them
Speaker:off and on their feet.
Speaker:Oh, so They were flexible.
Speaker:So you wouldn't have to tie the shoes all the time.
Speaker:You wouldn't have to tie the shoes all the time.
Speaker:You'd put the twinkle ties on ones and then you not
Speaker:have to mess with them ever again.
Speaker:I would have 15 kids sometimes in an hour long class
Speaker:and I would spend half the class tying tap shoes.
Speaker:It solved that problem.
Speaker:And I decided,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:this is great.
Speaker:I'm going to actually create it,
Speaker:package it,
Speaker:market it.
Speaker:I sold it to dance supply stores.
Speaker:At one point I thought I would take it on shark
Speaker:tank. And then I realized actually it was just a super
Speaker:fancy ponytail holder and could not be patented and all the
Speaker:things and just ended up doing it for fun.
Speaker:It was like a handmade craft project For fun.
Speaker:And you made some money along the way and it solved
Speaker:a need.
Speaker:It's a great story because so often products that get created
Speaker:are because they're someone someone's struggling with something and finds a
Speaker:solution. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:this is something that maybe other people could use too.
Speaker:Yes. So very interesting.
Speaker:Okay. So let's jump back to life coaching.
Speaker:I think there are a lot of people who are like,
Speaker:well, I could be a life coach.
Speaker:I know a lot I've lived,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:if you want to go down that angle,
Speaker:but you knew that you needed more to be able to
Speaker:say and qualify yourself as a life coach,
Speaker:not being very familiar with this industry,
Speaker:what happened from there to get training so that you could
Speaker:actually be educated and qualified to be a life coach.
Speaker:Okay. I think I have some great examples.
Speaker:Laurie do par my first coach,
Speaker:who I ended up getting certified through when she opened the
Speaker:international ADHD coach training center,
Speaker:she was such a wonderful example to me of what coaching
Speaker:should look like could look like it's just so professional,
Speaker:such a great listener,
Speaker:and then learning the tools in order to do that was
Speaker:definitely helpful.
Speaker:Same with the life coach school.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:Brooke Castillo is an amazing,
Speaker:amazing mentor.
Speaker:I just knew I wanted to be the best version of
Speaker:what a coach looked like that I could be.
Speaker:I also knew that you don't need to be certified at
Speaker:all in order to be a life coach.
Speaker:There is a belief part.
Speaker:So it wasn't a requirement.
Speaker:I didn't actually think I needed it in order to coach,
Speaker:but I wanted it because I just felt like it would
Speaker:make me even better.
Speaker:And I also am a lifelong learner.
Speaker:So I think there's that component where I am always learning
Speaker:and growing.
Speaker:And then I want to share that with the people that
Speaker:I'm working with.
Speaker:Okay. That makes sense.
Speaker:And also like how to work with people so they can
Speaker:accept messages or move forward with whatever it is they're struggling
Speaker:with. And I'm sure there are lots of techniques.
Speaker:I was a communications major and a journalism major.
Speaker:So a lot of communicating,
Speaker:but there are certain ways to talk with people,
Speaker:not manipulative.
Speaker:I want to make that clear,
Speaker:but to help them get to where they're trying to go.
Speaker:So there is a coaching aspect,
Speaker:I think that can be trained for sure.
Speaker:There are tools and strategies and skills that you can build
Speaker:up. And then I think each individual brings to it what
Speaker:they come equipped with.
Speaker:And for me,
Speaker:I just think there's a bit of like a sensitivity intuitiveness
Speaker:and just checking in with my gut and are we going
Speaker:this way or this way,
Speaker:and being really open to the direction the client wants.
Speaker:That makes sense.
Speaker:Yeah. You bring your own personality and your own style to
Speaker:it. So I'm thinking of maybe some people who are listening
Speaker:here who are like,
Speaker:yeah, I had a life coach and it didn't really work
Speaker:well. I think sometimes perhaps it takes a few people to
Speaker:find the right connection,
Speaker:the right fit for you.
Speaker:Yes, Absolutely.
Speaker:I would say if you're interested in coaching,
Speaker:don't give up,
Speaker:there are so many different flavors of coaches.
Speaker:I say this about people with ADHD tendencies as well.
Speaker:I know we haven't really stepped there yet,
Speaker:but no two people with ADHD,
Speaker:tendencies or ADHD look alike.
Speaker:There's just so many different ways it can mix together and
Speaker:show up.
Speaker:The same thing goes for coaches.
Speaker:It was a perfect segue.
Speaker:So let's do go there.
Speaker:And I would say definitely for,
Speaker:to be an ADHD coach,
Speaker:you had to have training cause you needed to learn and
Speaker:understand the latest,
Speaker:greatest what's happening in that area.
Speaker:All of that.
Speaker:I'm sure ADHD.
Speaker:So let me ask you a question here.
Speaker:I have a couple of friends recently,
Speaker:meaning within the last two years,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:and I'm not just like right out of college,
Speaker:let's face it.
Speaker:Who never thought there were issues or questions.
Speaker:And now they've been diagnosed as ADHD.
Speaker:The majority of the people who are listening are women who
Speaker:are, let's say 40 or older.
Speaker:Is this something that comes on later in life?
Speaker:It's not that it comes on later in life.
Speaker:So the answer to that question would be no specifically part
Speaker:of the way it's diagnosed is like a self-reporting and questionnaire.
Speaker:And one component that they look at is how long have
Speaker:these tendencies been with you?
Speaker:Has there been kind of a lifelong pattern?
Speaker:They may shift a little bit over time and look different,
Speaker:but there is some history that's required.
Speaker:So what are tendencies?
Speaker:What does that mean?
Speaker:I know there's not one catch all if you're this,
Speaker:this, this,
Speaker:or this,
Speaker:but could you give us just a few examples?
Speaker:Sure. The part of the brain that ADHD affects is referred
Speaker:to as our executive functions.
Speaker:And depending on which school of thought you kind of go
Speaker:with and how they're categorized,
Speaker:I'd say there's anywhere from four to six or seven different
Speaker:kind of sets of executive functions that come into play.
Speaker:And they deal with things like organizing and prioritizing time management,
Speaker:like looking at things through a linear lens versus a more
Speaker:circular lens.
Speaker:The linearness is not typically The circular is more ADHD because
Speaker:they're not straight line focused.
Speaker:Now let's face it.
Speaker:All of us can fit in this bucket.
Speaker:I think this is my guess.
Speaker:You'll tell me if I'm right John or not,
Speaker:but all of us can fit into that bucket from time
Speaker:to time.
Speaker:Like not being super focused,
Speaker:not sticking to our calendar.
Speaker:When we put everything on and said,
Speaker:we were going to do it,
Speaker:looking at a messy closet and being so overwhelmed and intimidated,
Speaker:like you don't even know where to start to organize or
Speaker:those exist.
Speaker:So those I would say are examples of how it can
Speaker:show up.
Speaker:But when someone has ADHD,
Speaker:the level that they are experiencing,
Speaker:all of those different things,
Speaker:all of the time,
Speaker:every day is exponentially higher.
Speaker:Okay. So you intuitively then know this isn't the way it
Speaker:should be Intuitively,
Speaker:but by talking with someone,
Speaker:you can get a sense of where they're at with it,
Speaker:where their level of like versus non-functioning is I'm not a
Speaker:doctor. So I always make it really clear if someone is
Speaker:challenged and experiencing these struggles and they do not have a
Speaker:diagnosis, that is something we talk about.
Speaker:And if they feel a diagnosis is helpful or what they're
Speaker:after then by all means,
Speaker:go see a doctor and talk to them and see if
Speaker:they can expand your awareness and diagnose you because it'll give
Speaker:you a frame of reference to start with.
Speaker:You have more information,
Speaker:all of a sudden that's available to you.
Speaker:So I think even just the awareness around it and people
Speaker:understanding the reason,
Speaker:I think that there's a delay and it shows up later
Speaker:in life for women,
Speaker:is that there's a tendency for the way that it shows
Speaker:up for women to not be as obvious when they're younger.
Speaker:It tends to show up in a more daydreamy less hyperactive
Speaker:fashion. I think when we think ADHD,
Speaker:traditionally we think hyperactive can't sit in a chair typically that
Speaker:like eight to 12 year old boy who can't keep his
Speaker:hands off his neighbor or is throwing things or like bouncing
Speaker:his foot all the time for girls,
Speaker:it tended to be more of a inner hyperactivity.
Speaker:It's not one way or the other,
Speaker:all boys are this way and all girls are this way,
Speaker:but the majority like a larger number of girls experience it
Speaker:in that more inattentive fashion.
Speaker:Okay. That makes a lot of sense to me because the
Speaker:boy to use your example would have been the one who
Speaker:got the attention.
Speaker:The parents would have been called in in my day.
Speaker:It would have been disciplinary.
Speaker:I think now we understand better when would test for ADHD,
Speaker:but girls,
Speaker:because it's more inner,
Speaker:it's more hidden.
Speaker:And we probably wouldn't talk about it because we're not thinking
Speaker:that it's something even to talk about at that point.
Speaker:And then now we're older.
Speaker:We know more ADHD overall,
Speaker:as a topic is more discussed.
Speaker:That's really where I wanted to go with this at this
Speaker:point. So what you're saying is if you're feeling something like
Speaker:that, talk to you,
Speaker:go talk to a doctor and see if this relates to
Speaker:you. And then you can go from there.
Speaker:What happens when ADHD?
Speaker:I'm just going to say women get appropriate guidance.
Speaker:What's the difference before and after?
Speaker:Oh my gosh.
Speaker:Honestly, it can be night and day.
Speaker:Like I talked to so many clients who didn't know they
Speaker:had ADHD until later in life got diagnosed.
Speaker:Some of them have chosen to take a medication,
Speaker:which is the treatment for ADHD are amazed at the results
Speaker:like really could,
Speaker:because what happens is the part of the brain it's typically
Speaker:neuro-transmitter related,
Speaker:but whether more of one is needed or like the uptake
Speaker:of one needs to be increased,
Speaker:there are so many different ways and medications can target the
Speaker:brain. And there are really a lot of options today for
Speaker:some people,
Speaker:literally that can be the start of opening their eyes to
Speaker:a whole different kind of way of being that being said,
Speaker:there are always side effects with medication.
Speaker:That's just part of the thing with any medication that we
Speaker:take there's to be said for finding that perfect sweet spot
Speaker:of the benefits.
Speaker:Like as many of the benefits as you can receive with
Speaker:as few of the side effects as possible.
Speaker:And I think that balance can be a little bit tricky
Speaker:and takes a little bit of time regards to medication.
Speaker:It can be very helpful if someone decides they don't want
Speaker:to try medication out the gate or they they've tried it.
Speaker:And they decided they wanted to look at something like an
Speaker:alternative. It can be helpful.
Speaker:Just the normalizing factor alone,
Speaker:realizing you're not on an Island by yourself experiencing this struggle.
Speaker:That's what it feels like.
Speaker:For many people,
Speaker:they're just unaware of the number,
Speaker:like the sheer number of other women that are experiencing this.
Speaker:And so I think the more connected you are,
Speaker:and you start to learn more about it.
Speaker:There's a whole community out there of neurodiverse people that have
Speaker:ADHD, you feel just so much less alone.
Speaker:And it really normalizes it in many ways.
Speaker:And I don't think that everyone has to automatically make a
Speaker:jump like,
Speaker:okay, I'm going to go get checked out.
Speaker:If I have ADHD,
Speaker:I have to take medicine.
Speaker:Cause some people are really opposed to taking medication of any
Speaker:kind, but at least you have more information and you can
Speaker:make choices for yourself.
Speaker:Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker:It's always a personal decision for sure.
Speaker:I just wanted to talk about that because you are a
Speaker:specialist here,
Speaker:you coach,
Speaker:I didn't know a lot about ADHD from that manner.
Speaker:I'm glad that we talked about that.
Speaker:And now I want to broaden the conversation a little bit
Speaker:more, which then relates pretty much to all our listeners.
Speaker:And that is how do we deal with the stress of
Speaker:running a business?
Speaker:There's first of all,
Speaker:stress in the beginning when you're thinking of starting a business,
Speaker:because it's like,
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:is it going to work?
Speaker:What if it doesn't work?
Speaker:I don't want to put myself out there and then have
Speaker:it not work all of that.
Speaker:Then when you actually get into a business and let's go
Speaker:with the fact that it's working,
Speaker:then there's so much around you that you're having to deal
Speaker:with. And maybe you're going to bring in employees and this
Speaker:is all what you want,
Speaker:but there's a stress level that comes with it.
Speaker:Inevitably. How do we work with some of this?
Speaker:Because we're really talking with you from a brain standpoint,
Speaker:right? That's your specialty.
Speaker:Yes. From a brain slash mindset standpoint,
Speaker:I feel like there's two components to stress.
Speaker:The model that I use,
Speaker:which is taught through the life coach school,
Speaker:super helpful stress actually is a feeling that we experience and
Speaker:we create or magnify that feeling of stress,
Speaker:by the way,
Speaker:we're choosing to think about things.
Speaker:So whatever is happening in our business,
Speaker:whether it's deadlines that are looming like multiple deadlines in one
Speaker:week, or whether there's like a delay on product that you
Speaker:need for packaging,
Speaker:right? Like maybe there's a packaging delay.
Speaker:And so you're not able to get everything assembled and out
Speaker:to fill orders that you have,
Speaker:whatever is going on.
Speaker:The thoughts that you choose to think about it are either
Speaker:going to make that experience more stressful or less stressful.
Speaker:Typically when we're in a high stress state,
Speaker:our mind is running.
Speaker:We're like leaving control of it to our primitive brain.
Speaker:The part of our brain that is very reactionary and non-intentional
Speaker:and less thinking on purpose,
Speaker:we can just become aware like in those moments,
Speaker:when we're feeling super stressed,
Speaker:take a deep breath and look around and become aware of
Speaker:what's really happening.
Speaker:The facts of it.
Speaker:And what we're thinking about it,
Speaker:like all the thoughts we're having,
Speaker:like I'm never going to get this finished.
Speaker:This is going to hold everything up.
Speaker:The company is going to be upset with me.
Speaker:The client is going to be upset with me.
Speaker:They're not going to get it on time.
Speaker:Whatever the thoughts are that are creating the stress.
Speaker:Just notice how,
Speaker:when you think the thought the stress increases.
Speaker:And so we can ask ourselves in those moments,
Speaker:how do I want to choose to think about this so
Speaker:that I feel differently,
Speaker:whatever feeling might be most supportive,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:it might be productive rather than stress.
Speaker:We might want to feel productive in spite of all of
Speaker:the things that are happening this week.
Speaker:And is there a thought that can help us to be
Speaker:more productive,
Speaker:feel more?
Speaker:So then you literally direct yourself to say something different in
Speaker:your thoughts.
Speaker:Yeah. Now it's not an affirmation.
Speaker:It's not something that's unbelievable.
Speaker:So it's not like a pretty flowery thought.
Speaker:For example,
Speaker:everything's fine.
Speaker:I'm just going to roll with it.
Speaker:If your brain does not believe everything's fine and you can
Speaker:just roll with it.
Speaker:The thought is not going to be helpful.
Speaker:It's going to become almost like a stressful thought to try
Speaker:to say over and over.
Speaker:So you want to find a thought that is believable.
Speaker:How about this?
Speaker:It's mid December.
Speaker:The holidays are upon us,
Speaker:many people in businesses like ours don't even really enjoy the
Speaker:holidays, which is why I had that other podcast earlier.
Speaker:You've got to start enjoying this.
Speaker:This is crazy.
Speaker:You're going to be so stressed out that you're a holiday
Speaker:passes you by and you don't get any joy or happiness
Speaker:out of it.
Speaker:So from a thinking standpoint,
Speaker:instead of thinking,
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:Christmas is coming.
Speaker:I have so many orders.
Speaker:We're going to have so many employees here.
Speaker:We're going to be working late hours.
Speaker:I'm going to be so worn down.
Speaker:There's just so much going on.
Speaker:I'm overwhelmed instead.
Speaker:Switch it and say,
Speaker:this is what I was hoping for.
Speaker:My business is a success.
Speaker:I know we're going to be putting in a lot of
Speaker:hours. We've got so many orders.
Speaker:Our product's going to make people so happy.
Speaker:And I'm so energized that everything's working so well.
Speaker:Would that be a good example?
Speaker:Exactly. So you basically flipped the script and you told the
Speaker:other side of the story,
Speaker:the other version of the story,
Speaker:and it's a version that's just going to feel so much
Speaker:better to focus on.
Speaker:So when you focus on that story,
Speaker:that narrative,
Speaker:you just told that is true.
Speaker:Your body is going to experience it in a way that
Speaker:feels good versus stress.
Speaker:I'm thinking about how,
Speaker:when we're an outsider,
Speaker:looking in,
Speaker:I'll take the same example that I just said,
Speaker:an outsider looking in at someone who's running a business,
Speaker:who's getting all of that business and there's all the hustle
Speaker:bustle around it.
Speaker:We can look envious onto that situation.
Speaker:If that's something we aspire to,
Speaker:but then it seems like the second we get into our
Speaker:own situations is when it turns stressful and overwhelm.
Speaker:For sure.
Speaker:Again, it goes back to the way we're thinking about it.
Speaker:But in addition,
Speaker:I think there is something also to be said about the
Speaker:self care component and just also making sure you're doing things
Speaker:that support you,
Speaker:whether it's enjoying a cup of hot tea before your day
Speaker:starts or having a favorite candle in the room that you
Speaker:work in or getting outside,
Speaker:letting snow fall on your face,
Speaker:You guys all know how much I love this note.
Speaker:It started snowing today.
Speaker:When we're recording,
Speaker:it must be a good luck charm,
Speaker:Sean, because it started like right as I was coming in,
Speaker:looking out the window in my office and getting ready to
Speaker:call you.
Speaker:Yeah. I love it.
Speaker:Pulling in that sense of wonder and like joy and that
Speaker:little things that actually support you and feel good.
Speaker:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker:And sleep and eating healthy.
Speaker:This is something I think that we also get into when
Speaker:we're so busy,
Speaker:we just grab comfort food that maybe isn't so healthy,
Speaker:but we're like,
Speaker:what the heck?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I need something to make me feel good.
Speaker:And then afterwards you don't feel so good when you've eaten
Speaker:a bag of potato chips or yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. So it's a quick dopamine hit.
Speaker:It works for a moment or two and then it's yeah.
Speaker:Recovery. So give his listeners while this holiday season is upon
Speaker:us. And when you're feeling stress,
Speaker:I want you to try what Shonda said.
Speaker:Really focus on what you're saying to yourself and see if
Speaker:you can intentionally flip the script to be positive and excited
Speaker:about what you're doing and see how that works for you.
Speaker:I think that's genius.
Speaker:Sean. I love that.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:Also, I just ask yourself,
Speaker:what's working with this.
Speaker:Like, how is this wonderful for me right now?
Speaker:How is this perfect,
Speaker:whatever is happening and your brain will actually find evidence that
Speaker:it is.
Speaker:If you ask it to,
Speaker:Oh, there you go.
Speaker:Okay. I like that too.
Speaker:Perfect. All right.
Speaker:So let's move on to other times just as we're working
Speaker:through our week,
Speaker:I'll speak for myself,
Speaker:but I think everyone can say this too,
Speaker:is we intend to get something done and we can so
Speaker:easily get off task.
Speaker:Yes. The whole topic of focus,
Speaker:we really want genuinely want to do what we're saying,
Speaker:but somehow we can find different ways of not getting it
Speaker:done, doing something else.
Speaker:Instead, you kind of almost forget at the end of the
Speaker:day, what you came in to do and it never got
Speaker:done. What can you share with us about focus?
Speaker:Tips on staying focused are coming up right after this quick
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Speaker:So interesting to me,
Speaker:I'm always like reconsidering and looking at it.
Speaker:I think so many different things come into play,
Speaker:but if you have the most common ones I see are
Speaker:when you're neurodiverse creative,
Speaker:I would say I E creative brains,
Speaker:there can be a tendency to not know where to start.
Speaker:So sometimes it's just a matter of there's so many options
Speaker:because our brain can see potential kind of everywhere.
Speaker:I think that's part of being creative.
Speaker:It can sometimes be hard to pin down exactly where to
Speaker:start, which then causes us like not to,
Speaker:or to delay or to do other things.
Speaker:So that's one component.
Speaker:Another is that there's a thing called hyperfocus.
Speaker:I'm sure your listeners have experienced this where you just kind
Speaker:of like get into the rhythm,
Speaker:the flow of something and it's just happening.
Speaker:And it's very organic and you feel like you could go
Speaker:for, you know,
Speaker:24 hours.
Speaker:That's a good thing,
Speaker:right? It can be,
Speaker:it totally can be.
Speaker:Not if things around you though aren't happening that need to
Speaker:be, Oh,
Speaker:if You're hyper focusing on the wrong thing,
Speaker:you mean yes.
Speaker:Or if you hyper focus and literally lose sense of time
Speaker:and just you go in and you're thinking I'm going to
Speaker:hyper-focus for two hours and then like nine hours later,
Speaker:you come out and you're like,
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:where'd the day go.
Speaker:Right? Where did the sun go?
Speaker:Could this be an artist who's painting to sell?
Speaker:So not just painting for fun,
Speaker:but painting to sell.
Speaker:And the painting that should only take three hours has now
Speaker:taken seven because every single thing has to be perfect.
Speaker:And in business time is money.
Speaker:So would that be hyper-focusing that would not be in the
Speaker:best interests of someone who's an artist.
Speaker:It could be,
Speaker:but that almost sounds even a little more like perfectionism,
Speaker:not even hyper-focused,
Speaker:maybe hyper-focused on the details of how it's not perfect.
Speaker:Okay. It's a little bit different.
Speaker:I'm talking about a little more of the hyper-focus where things
Speaker:are coming and happening really easily,
Speaker:and it's really enjoyable.
Speaker:So the experience is enjoyable and you lose track of time
Speaker:there. That type of hyper-focus,
Speaker:the perfectionism is a different type.
Speaker:It is like you're,
Speaker:hyper-focused on being critical of what's not quite right.
Speaker:And fixing it,
Speaker:fixing it,
Speaker:fixing it.
Speaker:So you're saying then the losing track of time,
Speaker:then our hours that you could have been used for something
Speaker:else. Yeah.
Speaker:Yes. Or just to be aware of it,
Speaker:because if you can kind of be aware of when you're
Speaker:in that hyper-focused state,
Speaker:you can put tasks or things need to be done.
Speaker:That require more attention.
Speaker:Sometimes it does make sense to just keep rolling with it
Speaker:and knock it out.
Speaker:But I think being aware of it helps.
Speaker:So if you're completely unaware that you're doing it,
Speaker:or like why you're,
Speaker:hyper-focusing being aware of why you're doing it,
Speaker:is it because you're being a perfectionistic person in that moment
Speaker:and it's not quite right?
Speaker:Or is it because you're really enjoying the process?
Speaker:It's a productive hyper-focus for you?
Speaker:I think there's both.
Speaker:So I think the power is in knowing and being aware
Speaker:of when you're doing it and why,
Speaker:and kind of harnessing it,
Speaker:Being conscious of it.
Speaker:And then saying,
Speaker:I am in the groove,
Speaker:this is perfect.
Speaker:I'm going to keep going.
Speaker:Or I am spending way too much time on this.
Speaker:Is that right?
Speaker:Yes. Okay.
Speaker:This is brand new to me because usually I'm thinking when
Speaker:I'm hyper-focused,
Speaker:it's all good.
Speaker:Cause I'm in productive.
Speaker:I'm getting it done.
Speaker:I might end to your point about when you aren't sure
Speaker:how to start that first part.
Speaker:Sometimes getting started takes a long time.
Speaker:It's like the gears churning and it's really slow.
Speaker:But then when you get in the groove,
Speaker:you're going faster.
Speaker:So the last thing you want to do is stop,
Speaker:you know?
Speaker:Yes, that's true.
Speaker:So that's like noticing that and being like,
Speaker:Nope, I got started and it's coming easily right now.
Speaker:So I'm just going to keep going.
Speaker:Also getting started a lot of the time,
Speaker:a suggestion that's helpful is just to set a timer for
Speaker:10 minutes and commit to starting anywhere.
Speaker:And if after 10 minutes you have not hit any type
Speaker:of a rhythm or flow with it.
Speaker:Give yourself permission to stop.
Speaker:That can be helpful for some people,
Speaker:especially that are wired with a little more neurodivergent brain.
Speaker:And so what it does is it kind of trains your
Speaker:brain going forward,
Speaker:just start because if it's not coming,
Speaker:if we're not really figuring it out,
Speaker:we're going to be able to stop and then try it
Speaker:again a little bit later in the day or the next
Speaker:day, it can help get some people out of a rut.
Speaker:One of the tricks I use for myself,
Speaker:tell me if this is just like totally crazy or what,
Speaker:but if I'm in the middle of a project and I
Speaker:know that I'm going to need to stop and start again
Speaker:the next day or later in the afternoon or whatever it
Speaker:is, I don't get to necessarily a stopping point.
Speaker:I stop one step before that.
Speaker:Something like the next easy thing that brings something to completion
Speaker:because that's so easy to get done.
Speaker:Then I get in the groove faster.
Speaker:If that makes sense.
Speaker:Yeah. That's really smart.
Speaker:Actually. That's a great strategy.
Speaker:I haven't thought of that before,
Speaker:but it sounds like a wonderful way.
Speaker:You're like I'm going to set myself up for success.
Speaker:So when I start again,
Speaker:I have a very clear thing that I'm going to do.
Speaker:And then once I do that,
Speaker:my brain might just take it away and move into the
Speaker:next part.
Speaker:Yeah. And it's something really easy to do.
Speaker:And then you also get the reward of having finished it
Speaker:right away.
Speaker:So then you want to continue going Yes.
Speaker:Super smart strategy.
Speaker:Just my little trick.
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:Anything else about focus that we should cover,
Speaker:defining where to start?
Speaker:So figuring out and I guess that goes to also creating
Speaker:the plan.
Speaker:If you have something that you're needing to do,
Speaker:let's take,
Speaker:I know lots of times people are challenged with getting a
Speaker:website up and running.
Speaker:So that overall task is daunting.
Speaker:Just focusing on getting a website up and running,
Speaker:there are way too many things.
Speaker:They're breaking it down into separate pieces.
Speaker:And then focusing on each individual piece gives you a place
Speaker:to start.
Speaker:Yes, For sure.
Speaker:When there's a huge,
Speaker:daunting task,
Speaker:breaking it down really helpful.
Speaker:Also just sometimes giving yourself the freedom to like the first
Speaker:chunk of time that you're going to work on it.
Speaker:It's really just exploration time.
Speaker:I call it playing in the sandbox.
Speaker:That's a little fun.
Speaker:So like you have no idea really what this giant project
Speaker:is going to break down.
Speaker:Like you have no idea what the little pieces are going
Speaker:to be.
Speaker:So you go in with the intention of this first hour
Speaker:that I'm going to spend working on this website,
Speaker:build, I'm really just going to play in the sandbox and
Speaker:explore all the possible things that need to happen.
Speaker:Allow myself to go down the rabbit,
Speaker:holes with it.
Speaker:I investigate all the things.
Speaker:And then the next time you go into it,
Speaker:you're going to have a little more of a framework like,
Speaker:okay, I've already looked at all the things.
Speaker:Now I'm going to put some of it together.
Speaker:Some of the pieces together and decide,
Speaker:make some decisions.
Speaker:Oh, I like that the first hour could be discovery a
Speaker:few. Well,
Speaker:I'm gonna look at different website options that I know are
Speaker:out there.
Speaker:I'm going to think about what I really need to have
Speaker:for my business.
Speaker:What type of functionality I really need to have.
Speaker:I'm going to look at what looks easier.
Speaker:Maybe through reviews.
Speaker:I might reach out in a group and ask other people
Speaker:what their websites are and I'm going to do that for
Speaker:an hour.
Speaker:And then the way I would work,
Speaker:tell me what you think about this.
Speaker:This kind of leads to what I already do is set
Speaker:the intention of what I will do for the next time
Speaker:I dedicate I've done this for an hour.
Speaker:The next time I am picking a platform signing up for
Speaker:the free version,
Speaker:because pretty much you can always test things for seven days
Speaker:and start looking at how you build it.
Speaker:Something like that.
Speaker:Yes. The way you said,
Speaker:I will pick a platform and sign up for their free
Speaker:trial because it's a clear result.
Speaker:So I think that is really helpful too.
Speaker:Like what is the result you're going to create in that
Speaker:time? And so you can measure that.
Speaker:Did I pick a free platform?
Speaker:Did I sign up?
Speaker:Am I starting to use it check?
Speaker:So it's not like I'm just going to work on building
Speaker:my website.
Speaker:It's so big and vague.
Speaker:What's the result.
Speaker:You're going to create every little time section that you go
Speaker:into working on it.
Speaker:Yeah. And that goes all back to defining how to start,
Speaker:because it's not just starting from the beginning.
Speaker:It's starting each time you pick up the project and moving
Speaker:forward. Yes.
Speaker:And I think it can be helpful for some people to
Speaker:do that,
Speaker:like 24 hours in advance,
Speaker:for sure.
Speaker:So today maybe look at what you're going to do tomorrow.
Speaker:And what result are you going to create tomorrow rather than
Speaker:waiting until the day of,
Speaker:and trying to figure it out in the moment can actually
Speaker:feel stressful and harder.
Speaker:And you're deciding more your feeling brain than your thinking brain.
Speaker:It can be hard though,
Speaker:for people to plan it,
Speaker:say a full week out two weeks out.
Speaker:I hear that.
Speaker:Like how do I create my plan for the full week
Speaker:and know on say Monday,
Speaker:what I'm going to want to be doing on Thursday or
Speaker:on Friday for some people it's not a problem for others.
Speaker:It's really,
Speaker:really hard.
Speaker:I think when the prioritizing area of the brain is more
Speaker:effected, it can be really hard to know.
Speaker:And so even if you just do it 24 hours in
Speaker:advance, that can be helpful just deciding ahead of time.
Speaker:It doesn't have to be a whole week ahead of time.
Speaker:If you make a plan,
Speaker:that doesn't mean it can't be adjusted based on your new
Speaker:learning. Yes.
Speaker:Some rope that brings you from one Whetstone to the next
Speaker:I'm thinking of crossing a Creek.
Speaker:Exactly. I love that slippery stone Stuck,
Speaker:not knowing.
Speaker:Cause that's the worst time-waster that I find is if I
Speaker:don't think about what the next thing is,
Speaker:I'm going to do the next day or when I come
Speaker:back from lunch to my desk or whatever it is.
Speaker:And then I sit there and think,
Speaker:okay, now I'm here at work.
Speaker:What am I going to do?
Speaker:And you think about it for a half an hour.
Speaker:Yes. That's when the time just passes by.
Speaker:Yeah. Or you go into your email or then you go
Speaker:onto Facebook or then you didn't do an Instagram story yet
Speaker:today. And then you're just all over the place.
Speaker:Yes. Wondering where the time went at the end of the
Speaker:day To the website example for a second and thinking about
Speaker:getting overwhelmed.
Speaker:So if someone ran through this example that we were talking
Speaker:about, and obviously we can apply it to anything that anyone
Speaker:is encountering,
Speaker:but when there are lots of different options,
Speaker:we have the tendency to feel like there's one best one.
Speaker:How do I find in this big pile of all these
Speaker:options, the best one for me.
Speaker:And that seems to produce a lot of overwhelm.
Speaker:How do you get through that?
Speaker:I think one of the tricks is to just decide that
Speaker:there's not one right way.
Speaker:What if all of the ways were right?
Speaker:All of the stones were right.
Speaker:There's no wrong choice,
Speaker:which would you pick?
Speaker:And then choose one and adjust course choose one and adjust
Speaker:course. I think it's the thought there's one right choice.
Speaker:There's only one right way.
Speaker:Yes. That is a thought that keeps us stuck feeling stuck.
Speaker:Right? Thoughts create feelings when we think there's only one,
Speaker:right. Way only one.
Speaker:Right. Option.
Speaker:The feeling would create is stuck for many people.
Speaker:So pick one.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:that's why you did your research with,
Speaker:and again,
Speaker:this applies to any topic,
Speaker:pick something after you've,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:put in some thoughts,
Speaker:some research,
Speaker:if that's appropriate to whatever you're working on at the time
Speaker:and then make a choice and take some out.
Speaker:Yes. Because if you were to break it down and ask
Speaker:yourself, what is the thing that I'm afraid of will happen?
Speaker:What is the worst case scenario?
Speaker:The answer would probably be that I choose the wrong thing
Speaker:or that I do the wrong thing.
Speaker:And that's always optional.
Speaker:Like you ever have to make anything that you do wrong.
Speaker:You're the only person deciding that.
Speaker:Right. And if you choose a platform that doesn't work for
Speaker:you, then you've had your seven days,
Speaker:you can go to something else.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you see that a platform doesn't have the capabilities of what
Speaker:you needed,
Speaker:for example.
Speaker:Yep. Okay.
Speaker:No harm done.
Speaker:Now you have that knowledge and you can move forward.
Speaker:So before you go test out another platform you can cover
Speaker:and ensure that they have what you need,
Speaker:things like that.
Speaker:Exactly. Winning or learning here,
Speaker:either moving closer to accomplishing your goal,
Speaker:creating a result,
Speaker:or you're learning a lot along the way,
Speaker:One of the two right into your quote in the beginning.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:we have to mess up sometimes.
Speaker:That's how we learn.
Speaker:That's how we get better.
Speaker:I would also say that's how we become professional because we've
Speaker:put in the experience and now we have the knowledge yes.
Speaker:Put in the time,
Speaker:I guess.
Speaker:And now we have,
Speaker:the knowledge would be the way to say that I've heard
Speaker:the concept of decision fatigue,
Speaker:where we only are able to make a certain number of
Speaker:decisions throughout the day.
Speaker:And once you hit your limit,
Speaker:you really shouldn't be making decisions anymore.
Speaker:Have you heard that?
Speaker:I have heard that.
Speaker:I have.
Speaker:Yeah. I think it's maybe more about the energy that we
Speaker:spend making decisions.
Speaker:So if you can learn to make a decision in a
Speaker:way that uses much less mental energy,
Speaker:so faster,
Speaker:more intentionally having your own back.
Speaker:So whatever you decide lining up with it and not really
Speaker:beating yourself up or judging yourself for what you decide.
Speaker:I think making decisions,
Speaker:learning to make decisions in that way uses less mental energy.
Speaker:Yeah. So making decisions faster and then sticking with your decision,
Speaker:because have you known people who make a decision and you
Speaker:think you're moving forward and the next day they come back
Speaker:and they're like,
Speaker:you know what?
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:And then they start the whole process over again and then
Speaker:maybe get into like a circle that they can't get out
Speaker:of. Merry-go-round they can't get out of a loop of indecision
Speaker:loop of indecision.
Speaker:I say a merry-go-round you give the professional terms,
Speaker:Loop of indecision,
Speaker:super professional.
Speaker:Totally. It sounds a little more professional than my merry-go-round,
Speaker:but that's okay.
Speaker:And to your point that there's not one single right decision.
Speaker:And because our decision was right for one person,
Speaker:maybe it's even somebody who has a business making a product
Speaker:similar to you.
Speaker:It doesn't mean that it's absolutely the right decision for you
Speaker:either. So there's never only one way.
Speaker:And none of this,
Speaker:luckily is a matter of life or death within our handmade
Speaker:businesses. Correct.
Speaker:And I think even in any moment,
Speaker:right in the present moment,
Speaker:it may be the right decision.
Speaker:And that's why it's so good to back yourself,
Speaker:up with it because a different moment,
Speaker:a different decision might be right for you,
Speaker:like everything factors in.
Speaker:So that's why I think make your decision,
Speaker:stick with it,
Speaker:move forward.
Speaker:Right. And then a decision might be,
Speaker:I need to adjust because this wasn't the right option.
Speaker:That's also a decision for sure.
Speaker:Yeah. I think what we're saying here,
Speaker:the common thread through all this conversation is to be intentional
Speaker:with your thinking,
Speaker:which then is intentional with your actions and then actually follow
Speaker:through on your actions.
Speaker:And you can always think adjust and change,
Speaker:but you keep progressing forward learning from those adjustment points And
Speaker:trust yourself.
Speaker:I feel like that's a big piece of it.
Speaker:Oh, I like that.
Speaker:Yeah. Trust yourself.
Speaker:And be kind to yourself.
Speaker:The majority of people aren't doing,
Speaker:what any of us are doing,
Speaker:making something,
Speaker:presenting it to the world and selling it.
Speaker:That's exciting.
Speaker:And a little bit scary.
Speaker:You're putting yourself out there.
Speaker:The majority of people will think about it and never do
Speaker:it. So kudos to you for doing it to start with
Speaker:and then making adjustments,
Speaker:learning and tweaking and becoming smarter and more professional as you
Speaker:go. Yeah.
Speaker:Be kind to yourself.
Speaker:I have one more topic that we have to dive into
Speaker:very quickly before we call it.
Speaker:And that is your term introverted extrovert.
Speaker:I don't think I've ever heard anybody say they're an extrovert,
Speaker:but when they do some of the personality tests,
Speaker:they're shocked to find that they are or have some portion
Speaker:of that in themselves.
Speaker:What do you say about this whole term?
Speaker:Do you define yourself as an introverted extrovert?
Speaker:Yes. A friend and I got in this discussion a few
Speaker:years back about this and I get energy by being around
Speaker:people and connecting with people and interacting with people.
Speaker:So the definition for me of extrovert is someone who gets
Speaker:their energy recharges by being in the presence of others.
Speaker:And the definition of introvert is people that get their energy
Speaker:and recharge by having more like space and quiet time,
Speaker:alone time.
Speaker:And so using those definitions,
Speaker:I feel like I'm on the extroverted end of the scale.
Speaker:I really love all the people like talking and meeting people.
Speaker:And there's like a little sliver of me,
Speaker:like towards the middle of the scale,
Speaker:because I also really do enjoy like a quiet walk in
Speaker:nature by myself or being on a beach or reading a
Speaker:book. So I think that's where I got that introverted extrovert.
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:I kind of feel the same way because I like being
Speaker:home by myself,
Speaker:doing things by myself.
Speaker:But I also like being around the children,
Speaker:being around my husband,
Speaker:definitely out at shows,
Speaker:you'll be in surrounded by a lot of people.
Speaker:But then I also really like,
Speaker:it shows going back to the hotel room in it being
Speaker:quiet and just me,
Speaker:it's a recharge.
Speaker:So I like both too.
Speaker:So people aren't really want just one or the other.
Speaker:I don't think so,
Speaker:but I don't know.
Speaker:There are some people maybe that self identify as one or
Speaker:the other,
Speaker:I guess people fall on all places in the scale.
Speaker:I just picked my place and set my marker in it.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:Made it up.
Speaker:It's also something that we tell ourselves because I think there
Speaker:are also people who tell themselves,
Speaker:I'm an introvert.
Speaker:There is no way I'm going on.
Speaker:Facebook live,
Speaker:even though Sue tells me I should be doing this for
Speaker:my business.
Speaker:So it's things that we tell ourselves and your idea of
Speaker:being a little bit of both or being each one at
Speaker:different points in our day to like,
Speaker:I don't think we have to be so channeled into what
Speaker:these terms mean,
Speaker:I guess is my point.
Speaker:So I loved seeing you saying that together.
Speaker:Yeah. That's a good perspective.
Speaker:I do think,
Speaker:yeah, we can turn it on when we need to.
Speaker:Also, there are times I remember like working trade shows at
Speaker:one point I was like,
Speaker:Oh, today I'm going to be extroverted.
Speaker:I'm going to be on the far end of that scale
Speaker:for me.
Speaker:So that's interesting.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:I like considering all the things and I like that we're
Speaker:similar. It makes sense.
Speaker:It does.
Speaker:Well, we can keep saying,
Speaker:yeah, yeah.
Speaker:We'll do each other back and forth.
Speaker:What would you say to somebody who's listening who is thinking,
Speaker:okay, I need to go back and listen to all of
Speaker:this and really think of how I can think more intentional
Speaker:where you just give a little bit of final direction to
Speaker:somebody on that.
Speaker:Yeah. I think it starts with awareness.
Speaker:So just being aware of when a big emotion comes up
Speaker:or when you're feeling some sort of way be aware of
Speaker:what your brain is thinking.
Speaker:I don't think we're typically used to doing that.
Speaker:I think it starts there and then being intentional is really
Speaker:choosing how you want to think.
Speaker:So if you want to continue in that lane that you're
Speaker:in, or if you want to choose to think about it
Speaker:in a different way.
Speaker:I think that is what being intentional is like deciding on
Speaker:purpose what you want to think.
Speaker:And when you want to think it,
Speaker:And then taking these steps can help you reduce your stress
Speaker:level because you're recognizing that this is really something good versus
Speaker:the old way of thinking,
Speaker:which was giving you a lot of stress and overwhelm,
Speaker:which I would suggest is going to produce better results for
Speaker:you. Certainly just with your inner workings as a person in
Speaker:your happiness level.
Speaker:But also I think your output for sure,
Speaker:selling more products,
Speaker:getting things done,
Speaker:all of them.
Speaker:Absolutely. So when you're feeling a more positive emotion,
Speaker:the tendency to then create a positive outcome is much greater.
Speaker:Like your net positive output when you're feeling a positive emotion
Speaker:is higher.
Speaker:Makes sense.
Speaker:Share with us a little bit,
Speaker:Sean, what work you're doing within your coaching?
Speaker:Yeah. So I do two versions of coaching right now.
Speaker:I work one-on-one with clients for six months at a time.
Speaker:It's really a lot of thought work mindset,
Speaker:work with the awareness around ADHD and how that shows up.
Speaker:So I think that's kind of something I bring to the
Speaker:table. And then I also have a group program that reopens
Speaker:in November where I offer a coaching calls for,
Speaker:I call it ADHD,
Speaker:tendency, brains,
Speaker:creative minds,
Speaker:basically where they can come and get coached twice a week.
Speaker:And I talk about 10 minutes each call on a topic
Speaker:related to neurodiversity.
Speaker:So you do a little bit of educating and then also
Speaker:back and forth group coaching.
Speaker:Yes. On those calls.
Speaker:Yes. Wonderful.
Speaker:And where can people go?
Speaker:If they'd like to learn more About you?
Speaker:They can go to my website.
Speaker:It's revealed path.com
Speaker:and I have a button on there.
Speaker:They can check out my blog or click to book a
Speaker:consult. I'm happy to talk with them.
Speaker:Perfect. Thank you so much.
Speaker:I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you getting on
Speaker:the show today and talking about stress and ADHD,
Speaker:which we've never approached before on the show and just sharing
Speaker:with us.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I already feel more comfortable just feeling like I want to
Speaker:remember what Sean said when I'm getting to get stressed out,
Speaker:I'm going to do some intentional thinking.
Speaker:I'm going to flip the script and everything is going to
Speaker:be so much better.
Speaker:So the advice that you've given us has been fabulous today.
Speaker:Thank you so so much.
Speaker:Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker:I'm a maker at heart.
Speaker:I love your community.
Speaker:Thanks. Take care.
Speaker:Thanks, bye.
Speaker:Bye. We all need to remember this.
Speaker:Our thoughts create our feelings.
Speaker:I've already written it down on a bright yellow sticky note
Speaker:displayed on my pen holder so I can be reminded of
Speaker:it every day.
Speaker:It's something so powerful and in our control.
Speaker:Now we just need to take advantage of its potential.
Speaker:Let's move our sights forward and you guys next week is
Speaker:Christmas. Can you believe it?
Speaker:I always want to bring you something super special and lighthearted
Speaker:for the holiday,
Speaker:and this is the best I've come up with ever.
Speaker:I'm not even going to tease you about who it is.
Speaker:I'm just going to tell you right now,
Speaker:we have the opportunity to talk with Heidi Swain,
Speaker:a best selling fictional author,
Speaker:whose books revolve around stories that fit right in with our
Speaker:passions of handmade and crafting.
Speaker:We get a behind the scenes,
Speaker:look of the life of a writer and gift of all
Speaker:gifts. She's going to read a section from one of her
Speaker:holiday stories,
Speaker:topping it off with her British accent.
Speaker:It's absolutely magical.
Speaker:I know you're going to love it as much as I
Speaker:do. Thanks so much for spending time with me today.
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Speaker:That means so so much and helps the show get seen
Speaker:by more makers.
Speaker:So it's a great way to pay it forward and now
Speaker:be safe and well work diligently with that hot cup of
Speaker:cocoa next to you to get out all of your sales
Speaker:orders. And I'll see you next week on the gift biz
Speaker:unwrapped. I want to make sure you're familiar with my free
Speaker:Facebook group called gift is breeze.
Speaker:It's a place where we all gather and are a community
Speaker:to support each other.
Speaker:Got a really fun post in there.
Speaker:That's my favorite of the week.
Speaker:I have to say where I invite all of you to
Speaker:share what you're doing to show pictures of your product,
Speaker:to show what you're working for the week to get reaction
Speaker:from other people and just for fun,
Speaker:because we all get to see the wonderful products that everybody
Speaker:in the community is making my favorite post every single week,
Speaker:without doubt.
Speaker:Wait, what,
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