Gift biz on wrapped episode 29,
Speaker:Unless you're standing in your success,
Speaker:you don't know where it is.
Speaker:You want to go.
Speaker:Hi, this is John Lee,
Speaker:Dumas of entrepreneur on fire,
Speaker:and you're listening to the gift of biz unwrapped.
Speaker:And now it's time to light it up.
Speaker:Welcome to gift biz,
Speaker:unwrapped your source for industry specific insights and advice to develop
Speaker:and grow your business.
Speaker:And now here's your host.
Speaker:Sue Monheit Unwrapped,
Speaker:whether you own a brick and mortar shop sell online or
Speaker:are just getting started,
Speaker:you'll discover new insight to gain traction and to grow your
Speaker:business. And today I am so excited to have with us,
Speaker:Mary Romeo of B business smart Mary has been in the
Speaker:retail environment for 23 years,
Speaker:both owning her own business as well as being a regional
Speaker:director, handling a multi-store chain.
Speaker:During that time,
Speaker:she always wished there was someone to turn to who really
Speaker:understood retail.
Speaker:Someone who could brainstorm ideas,
Speaker:talk through problems and strategize concepts,
Speaker:friends and family were supportive,
Speaker:but didn't really understand running a retail business.
Speaker:So what did Mary do?
Speaker:She created B business smart.
Speaker:It's a place where brick and mortar retailers can find tips,
Speaker:tools, resources,
Speaker:information, and inspiration.
Speaker:It's also a place where wearing many hats is understood,
Speaker:encouraged and applauded.
Speaker:Be business smart is a resource for insights and strategies on
Speaker:merchandise, concept development displays and visual merchandising,
Speaker:hiring and staff training,
Speaker:branding, signage,
Speaker:Packaging systems,
Speaker:marketing, and social media.
Speaker:I would say it covers everything.
Speaker:It's the place to go to get help with the million
Speaker:things. Every retailer deals with every day in their growing business.
Speaker:Welcome to the show,
Speaker:Mary, Thank you so much.
Speaker:I am so thrilled to be here.
Speaker:That was a huge bio covering.
Speaker:So many things.
Speaker:Would you like to include anything else?
Speaker:No, I think you've pretty much got it covered.
Speaker:I was getting a little tired just thinking about it.
Speaker:I was like,
Speaker:wow, I'm exhausted from all that.
Speaker:Well, You know,
Speaker:it just brings to mind how many things,
Speaker:when you have a physical shop that you really have to
Speaker:be considering all the time.
Speaker:Absolutely. And I've been on both sides of it.
Speaker:I started retail actually on the developer side,
Speaker:I used to work for a shopping center developer and I
Speaker:did leasing with small business owners and I got to really
Speaker:help them create their concepts and design their stores.
Speaker:And I did that for 15 years before I decided I'd
Speaker:go to the other side and actually be a retailer and
Speaker:learn all the things that I really hadn't known before.
Speaker:I can.
Speaker:It's one thing to talk about us,
Speaker:the other thing to do it Well.
Speaker:And if you're consulting in an advising,
Speaker:other people,
Speaker:the credibility is in the fact that you actually have done
Speaker:it. Absolutely.
Speaker:Sometimes I think I'm still the front side of that learning
Speaker:curve because every day I swear to God,
Speaker:there's something else that pops up and I think,
Speaker:wow, you know what?
Speaker:I never thought about that before.
Speaker:So you're learning something new every single day when you're in
Speaker:retail, because it's constantly changing.
Speaker:Absolutely Well,
Speaker:as our listeners know,
Speaker:we align the conversation around the life of a motivational candle.
Speaker:The light shines on you,
Speaker:Mary, while you share your stories and all of your experiences.
Speaker:So are you ready to light it up?
Speaker:Absolutely. All right.
Speaker:Well, this vision is very easy.
Speaker:You're going to be walking into a retail shop and it's
Speaker:a candle shop.
Speaker:There's lights flickering all over and you walk up to a
Speaker:rack of motivational candles that are all brilliant,
Speaker:bright, and pretty.
Speaker:What color candle are you going to reach for?
Speaker:We've got to reach for purple.
Speaker:I love it for its richness and vibrancy.
Speaker:Wonderful. And what quote's going to be on that candle.
Speaker:The one I've always kind of lived by is stand in
Speaker:your success and look back to see what you have to
Speaker:do to get there.
Speaker:Oh, I like that,
Speaker:that talks to look for the end result first,
Speaker:the goal first,
Speaker:and then figure out the steps.
Speaker:Absolutely. Because it really helps you to create all those systems
Speaker:and all that checklist that we love to live by to
Speaker:get to where it is we want to go to.
Speaker:But unless you're standing in your success,
Speaker:you don't know where it is you want to go.
Speaker:So I'm going to ask you a challenging question because I
Speaker:think that's really hard for people to recognize.
Speaker:I have to remind myself about that all the time.
Speaker:At what point in your career did you discover that that's
Speaker:the way to do it,
Speaker:to look at the end goal first and then back it
Speaker:up from there?
Speaker:You know what?
Speaker:I was very lucky when I worked in the shopping center
Speaker:industry, I worked for an incredible company that built shopping centers
Speaker:that were,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:like the Faneuil hall marketplaces and not Harvard places of the
Speaker:world that were just unbelievable.
Speaker:And they really taught us to be able to stand in
Speaker:our success and look back.
Speaker:So I was lucky to kind of have that in that
Speaker:corporate mindset that I left with,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:when I left them to open my own store.
Speaker:So I really had been trained to do that.
Speaker:That really helped me to be able to do the many
Speaker:things that I had to do and I was creating my
Speaker:own store.
Speaker:So would you say that that brought you to success faster?
Speaker:Not necessarily success.
Speaker:There were a lot of road bumps when you're a retailer,
Speaker:as your listeners know there's lots and lots of road bumps.
Speaker:So it brought me to an understanding of what I needed
Speaker:to do to get to success.
Speaker:How about that?
Speaker:I try to use that quote,
Speaker:not only for the big picture of what I wanted that
Speaker:store to be,
Speaker:but for every project that I started on.
Speaker:Okay. So if what I want to do is create this
Speaker:merchandise story.
Speaker:Let me think about what I want that to look like
Speaker:in the end and let me see what I have to
Speaker:do to get to it.
Speaker:So yeah,
Speaker:I guess in a way it did,
Speaker:it did contribute to its success early on.
Speaker:Yeah. Success of specific projects,
Speaker:perhaps you'd say exactly.
Speaker:Got it.
Speaker:Because you're more now of a service provider with smart miss
Speaker:business. I'm not taking you through the questions that I would
Speaker:normally ask someone who runs a shop.
Speaker:But since you talked about road bumps,
Speaker:I'm dying to hear stories from you about one of those
Speaker:struggles. Can you pull one up like a really crazy one
Speaker:that you think would be valuable to everybody to hear,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:one of those road bumps and then how you overcame it?
Speaker:Absolutely Because there were so many,
Speaker:the story that I opened was actually a specialty coffee store.
Speaker:And this was back in the early nineties,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:before there was a Starbucks on every corner,
Speaker:but I really wanted to have a gift component to it
Speaker:because I just loved the gift business.
Speaker:And I'd gone to market every single year in my corporate
Speaker:job. And I loved going out there and finding great merchandise.
Speaker:So I had a specialty coffee store.
Speaker:It was also a gift store,
Speaker:which I will tell you for anybody that's in the gift
Speaker:business makes it a little easier because there's always somebody walking
Speaker:in the door to get just a cup of coffee.
Speaker:So I really love that piece of it and things are
Speaker:going great.
Speaker:In the first three years,
Speaker:I was in a small community room community of a bigger
Speaker:city. So there was a lot of affluent people there and
Speaker:business was growing.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:every month it was just unbelievable sales growth.
Speaker:And then all of a sudden Starbucks came to town.
Speaker:It was such a shock.
Speaker:And so I kind of had to really reinvent myself all
Speaker:over again.
Speaker:And even though I knew that what I had was better,
Speaker:we had the personal touch and we had the ownership and
Speaker:we have the gift business part of it that really helped.
Speaker:And we did build the business back up,
Speaker:but it was quite a shock to lose that much business
Speaker:in one year from a competitor.
Speaker:What types of things did you do in store to try
Speaker:and attract people back in?
Speaker:We really took customer service to the nth degree.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:we sent birthday cards to our customers.
Speaker:We knew our customers by name and they came in every
Speaker:single day.
Speaker:I used to say it was like throwing a party and
Speaker:having all your best friends come in and see you every
Speaker:single day.
Speaker:So we really got to know our customer and we really
Speaker:catered to them.
Speaker:I would say that our customer service was so exceptional that
Speaker:that's what really brought us back.
Speaker:And the gift business piece of it really helped because you
Speaker:weren't just going in to get a cup of coffee.
Speaker:You're going in to get a cup of coffee.
Speaker:And, oh my God,
Speaker:I forgot that birthday gift for so-and-so.
Speaker:And I can do that at seven o'clock in the morning.
Speaker:And I don't have to worry about doing it later tonight.
Speaker:We did a lot of marketing when we would give things
Speaker:away. We wouldn't just do contest to give away a free
Speaker:cup of coffee.
Speaker:We would give away a half a pound of coffee.
Speaker:I liked to do things that are really outrageous kind of
Speaker:way, because I just thought you had to really be outrageous
Speaker:in your marketing sometimes to really get their attention.
Speaker:So that really helped us tremendously.
Speaker:And we were able to build it back up.
Speaker:We changed our offerings and really hit on specialty staff.
Speaker:So Mary,
Speaker:you bring up a couple of really important points.
Speaker:I've also been in the retail environment and I've had the
Speaker:influence of a Walmart coming into town or a Starbucks coming
Speaker:into and having to deal with my businesses.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:people that I was consulting.
Speaker:And how do you handle that when a big name comes
Speaker:to town?
Speaker:And one thing that I think if biz listeners,
Speaker:we all need to recognize is people are initially going to
Speaker:go and try out the competition a little bit less,
Speaker:maybe if it's a smaller local retailer,
Speaker:but for sure if it's someone like Starbucks.
Speaker:So if you're in that type of situation,
Speaker:recognize that you probably will naturally have an initial dip in
Speaker:business because people are just going to go check it out.
Speaker:It's just going to happen.
Speaker:But it doesn't mean that that is going to necessarily shut
Speaker:you down.
Speaker:You have to be smart about it.
Speaker:As Mary's talking about use customer service,
Speaker:use the relationships that you have to retain your business,
Speaker:but it's good just to recognize that that naturally will occur.
Speaker:The other thing,
Speaker:Mary, that we kind of glossed over and I really want
Speaker:to underline cause it's really a great point is the insight
Speaker:that you shared about being able to naturally attract traffic into
Speaker:your store.
Speaker:If you have a consumable such in Mary's case coffee,
Speaker:where people are coming in and coming by the gifts,
Speaker:that's just a natural flow of traffic that you can have.
Speaker:So think within your business,
Speaker:what types of things can you do that could bring in
Speaker:natural traffic?
Speaker:Maybe if you're a popcorn shop,
Speaker:you have little cups of daily samples that people can try.
Speaker:And if people are just walking by,
Speaker:they can see,
Speaker:oh, let's pop in and get a sample,
Speaker:something like that.
Speaker:But I'm sure there are many creative ways you can think
Speaker:of for your unique businesses,
Speaker:but that's a really good tip.
Speaker:So thank you for sharing that.
Speaker:Sure. Let's move on and talk a little bit about retail
Speaker:in general.
Speaker:And we're going to talk specifically here on this show about
Speaker:brick and mortar shops and any of you who have online
Speaker:shops or are home crafters,
Speaker:or haven't really been thinking about it,
Speaker:please stay tuned because you never know what kind of information
Speaker:is going to come up.
Speaker:That can be appropriate.
Speaker:And we're talking specifically brick and mortar,
Speaker:but could be a really good insight for you as well.
Speaker:Mary, you know,
Speaker:brick and mortars changed over the last 20 years with all
Speaker:the online ordering that's possible.
Speaker:Now it's a whole different ball game.
Speaker:I would say It is such a different ball game,
Speaker:the internet with its convenience,
Speaker:as well as big box stores because of their buying power,
Speaker:they can offer lower prices.
Speaker:So you really have to hone in your merchandise concepts so
Speaker:that you can have things that are as unique as possible,
Speaker:or that are branded specifically for you.
Speaker:And you can do that yourself as well as getting your
Speaker:vendors to do that.
Speaker:We do a lot of buying in bulk and repackaging things
Speaker:under our own name so that it reflects our brand and
Speaker:they can't find it anywhere else.
Speaker:And it might be very much the same product somewhere else,
Speaker:but because it's under our name,
Speaker:kind like what the grocery stores do,
Speaker:we're able to price it where we need it to be.
Speaker:And you know,
Speaker:again, it walks out the door with our brand on it,
Speaker:Right, for people who don't know what we're talking about,
Speaker:you think about private labeling and I'll just go down the
Speaker:diaper aisle of a supermarket.
Speaker:If you will,
Speaker:a supermarket brands,
Speaker:diapers might very well be made in the Huggies plant or
Speaker:another brand names plant.
Speaker:So it doesn't mean a product is inferior.
Speaker:You've just put your name on it.
Speaker:And you may not be going so far is to going
Speaker:to a factory and relabeling product that you're purchasing.
Speaker:But just like Mary's talking,
Speaker:you can bring it in and repackage it,
Speaker:maybe put it into gift baskets,
Speaker:just remerchandise it in some way,
Speaker:and then add your logo or a specialty message for a
Speaker:season. And it takes on a whole different appeal.
Speaker:Sure. Just like if you're selling jewelry,
Speaker:for instance,
Speaker:you can bring in those earrings and take them off the
Speaker:card that they come in and put them on a card
Speaker:with your name on It.
Speaker:That's a great idea besides that.
Speaker:What are some of the other overall challenges that you see
Speaker:brick and mortar stores having these days?
Speaker:Well, if you're in a shopping center and you do get
Speaker:some protection with use clauses so that everybody's not selling the
Speaker:same thing that you are,
Speaker:but if you're a,
Speaker:just a neighborhood shopping area,
Speaker:sometimes your fellow retailers start to infringe on your categories.
Speaker:And all of a sudden you see somebody suddenly show up
Speaker:with the same merchandise that you've got and then that throws
Speaker:you for a loop and you don't know exactly what to
Speaker:do. So you're always having to be on the lookout as
Speaker:to how you can pivot your unique concept.
Speaker:And I think that's also where that Randy can come in
Speaker:and be very important because if those earrings are on a
Speaker:card that has your name on it,
Speaker:or that candy is in a bag that has your name
Speaker:on it,
Speaker:then it's not quite the same thing as what the guy
Speaker:down the street is selling.
Speaker:Right? But the other things,
Speaker:I think that independent retailers have great abilities to be better
Speaker:than the big guys is that,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:the customer gets to talk to you the honor,
Speaker:and they love being up close and personal and really understanding
Speaker:you and knowing you and your ability as an independent retailer
Speaker:to really turn on a dime and react to the needs
Speaker:and trends much,
Speaker:much faster than any of the big box guys or anybody
Speaker:online can do.
Speaker:So we do have such an incredible advantage in that.
Speaker:What Do you think the power is now of the whole
Speaker:shop local or the small business Saturday?
Speaker:Do you think people are really following and supporting small businesses
Speaker:through those events?
Speaker:Oh, I think they are.
Speaker:I think it's huge just in the same way that restaurants
Speaker:are really captivating their customers with the whole farm to chef
Speaker:concept. It's very much the same way with retailers.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:if you can have merchandise that local vendors are providing,
Speaker:that's fabulous,
Speaker:but also just because you're a local vendor,
Speaker:you really,
Speaker:really want to take advantage of things like small business Saturday
Speaker:and promote the fact that you are an independent retailer.
Speaker:Good Advice.
Speaker:Let's go back a little bit and talk to some of
Speaker:our listeners who might be thinking to open up their own
Speaker:shop. What types of hard questions should they be asking themselves
Speaker:to determine if this is the right choice for them?
Speaker:Obviously the first thing they want to have is a great
Speaker:merchandise concept and something that's not necessarily a copy of something
Speaker:else, Defined merchandise concept.
Speaker:If you're going to be a gift store and you don't
Speaker:want to just be a general gift store,
Speaker:you might really want to do a niche.
Speaker:That's maybe it's handcrafted gifts or maybe it's gifts for gourmets
Speaker:or maybe it's kitchen items.
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:So you really want to hone in on what that merchandise
Speaker:focus is so that you can create a store that when
Speaker:that customer walks in the door,
Speaker:they know without a question in their heart,
Speaker:what that store is all about.
Speaker:I really hate walking into retail stores that kind of are
Speaker:all over the board.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:they've got t-shirts and they've got books and they've got jewelry
Speaker:and you can have all of those things that tie into
Speaker:one concept.
Speaker:But if they don't somehow tie in,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:it might be that all of those things are related to
Speaker:your door at the beach.
Speaker:And so everything's beach related.
Speaker:So you can have all those categories within a beach related
Speaker:theme, for instance.
Speaker:But if you're just throwing stuff at the wall to see
Speaker:what sticks and your merchandise isn't connected to each other in
Speaker:the store,
Speaker:then it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker:And I think you confuse the customer.
Speaker:So I think that's a really important thing,
Speaker:Right? And I think a lot of people would kick back
Speaker:against that idea of saying,
Speaker:well, then I won't have product for everybody.
Speaker:I don't know if you've heard.
Speaker:They'll saying that if you're everything to everybody,
Speaker:your nothing to anybody,
Speaker:right. So really seriously take Mary's advice to heart in that
Speaker:somehow you want to tighten up,
Speaker:even if you're in the gifting arena,
Speaker:like Mary's talking about tighten up what your concept is around
Speaker:some type of a theme.
Speaker:And number one,
Speaker:it separates you totally from other people who are in your
Speaker:area. And number two,
Speaker:it just makes you unique and helps you with how you're
Speaker:going to position yourself in the market in terms of messaging,
Speaker:how you're going to relay social media posts,
Speaker:all of that just makes everything easier and very clear to
Speaker:someone who's walking In.
Speaker:If you could figure out who your ideal customer is,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I want to sell gifts to the woman who's between 35
Speaker:and 55.
Speaker:That's married with children.
Speaker:And as a working mom,
Speaker:it helps you really hone in on what that merchandise might
Speaker:be, as opposed to I'm going to sell to everybody.
Speaker:We'd like to think we could sell to everybody,
Speaker:but that's really not possible.
Speaker:We've learned from enough people that you try and do that,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:unless you are a Walmart,
Speaker:unless You're a Walmart or a target,
Speaker:you've got 35,000
Speaker:square feet.
Speaker:But none of us have that.
Speaker:If you've got 500 or a thousand or 1500 square feet,
Speaker:you've really gotta be true to your concept.
Speaker:I just saw a great store in Chicago.
Speaker:That was all that were imported from France.
Speaker:Now, granted,
Speaker:they were able to have every possible category in there from
Speaker:soaps to books,
Speaker:to home decor and things like that.
Speaker:But the tying factor was that it was all imported from
Speaker:France and it all had that French feel to it.
Speaker:Don't just throw in t-shirts because you think t-shirts have a
Speaker:great margin on them and your sell a lot of them.
Speaker:Now that doesn't mean that you can't make that fit into
Speaker:your store.
Speaker:I remember when I had my coffee shop,
Speaker:I went to market and I found these really great flip-flops
Speaker:beach flip flops that I just fell in love with and
Speaker:I wanted to have them in the store.
Speaker:And so what I did was I created a merchandise story
Speaker:around ice tea,
Speaker:and I had beach tote bags made with our logo on
Speaker:it, pulled in some other things that were kind of related
Speaker:to that.
Speaker:So I brought in those flip flops,
Speaker:believe it or not.
Speaker:And they sold really well,
Speaker:but I still was able to keep it true to what
Speaker:my concept was.
Speaker:Right. Great example.
Speaker:So another thing that we haven't really talked about and I
Speaker:want to move into is in a retail shop atmosphere and
Speaker:customer service are both terribly important.
Speaker:And I realized that there are two separate topics,
Speaker:but it all has to do with the experience that somebody
Speaker:has when they're walking into the shop.
Speaker:Do you have any guidelines that you can share with our
Speaker:listeners on either one of those topics or perhaps both?
Speaker:I Do.
Speaker:I actually have what I called the nine touch points that
Speaker:every retailer has to pay attention to,
Speaker:to really make their story of success.
Speaker:Find those on my website.
Speaker:I'll talk about that in a little bit,
Speaker:but those nine touch points are so important and it's everything
Speaker:from, what is your store look like on the outside?
Speaker:Does it say welcome and come in,
Speaker:do you appeal to all the senses,
Speaker:sight, sound,
Speaker:touch, taste,
Speaker:smell again,
Speaker:going back to,
Speaker:what is your merchandise story?
Speaker:Is it clear customer service?
Speaker:Just making those moments of magic for your customers?
Speaker:How easy is it for them to buy from you?
Speaker:Your displays really massing it out,
Speaker:keeping them full,
Speaker:keeping them clean and making sure that they're attractive.
Speaker:And if you don't know how to do displays,
Speaker:because that's one of those things that can be difficult,
Speaker:either go find someone to hire freelance.
Speaker:You can go to one of the big department stores.
Speaker:The first person I ever hired to do my displays was
Speaker:somebody who worked for crate and barrel because he used to
Speaker:love Creighton barrels displays.
Speaker:And I hired that person to come in part-time and teach
Speaker:me as well as do the displays for me so that
Speaker:I could really kind of learn your signage.
Speaker:And branding is very important.
Speaker:Is it consistent?
Speaker:Is it clean?
Speaker:Is it clear?
Speaker:And is there a call to action?
Speaker:Do you really get a sense from your signage,
Speaker:what you want that customer to do?
Speaker:And there's a place to the right place.
Speaker:Your branding is important.
Speaker:Your packaging is that unique and distinctive and it doesn't have
Speaker:to be expensive.
Speaker:It can be a handled bag with your logo on it
Speaker:and some colored tissue in your stores colors,
Speaker:but it really makes a difference when the customer walks out
Speaker:of that store with their purchase,
Speaker:do they have something that they're number one,
Speaker:proud to be carrying around or that they can then just
Speaker:actually give as a gift right then?
Speaker:And there really makes you a unique place to go buy
Speaker:things. And then of course your social media and your marketing,
Speaker:you can't escape social media today,
Speaker:but it can be really overwhelming.
Speaker:You have to figure out where your customers are hanging out
Speaker:on social media and just use that platform.
Speaker:I certainly wouldn't use any more than two,
Speaker:but most importantly,
Speaker:you have to get emails every possible place you turn,
Speaker:because once you have the customer's email,
Speaker:you can really connect with them on a much better level
Speaker:than you can on social media.
Speaker:Social media helps you find them,
Speaker:but your email list helps you sell to them.
Speaker:And then lastly,
Speaker:I think you really want to surprise and delight your customers
Speaker:in some way,
Speaker:shape or form really going the extra mile,
Speaker:hand out candy hearts on Valentine's day,
Speaker:or you send them a birthday card.
Speaker:What are you really doing to surprise and delight your customers
Speaker:when they come in,
Speaker:maybe it's offering them a cup of hot cocoa on a
Speaker:cold winter day when their Christmas shopping Great points.
Speaker:And we are going to talk about these touch points a
Speaker:little bit later when we're wrapping up,
Speaker:but I want to do just a little deeper dive on
Speaker:two of these.
Speaker:When you talk about packaging and it brings to mind apple
Speaker:and their whole strategy,
Speaker:which is for those of you who don't have any apple
Speaker:products is when someone purchases.
Speaker:And that is not a low priced item,
Speaker:of course.
Speaker:But part of the experience is actually opening that box for
Speaker:the first time and everything was planned out how the packages
Speaker:released what's inside when you open the lid,
Speaker:it's a whole entire experience.
Speaker:So not that you have to take it necessarily to that
Speaker:level, but think about that,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:what are you doing so that when a product is purchased
Speaker:from your shop,
Speaker:it is special because of the packaging,
Speaker:because it's something beautiful or maybe there's a little extra tissue
Speaker:in there,
Speaker:or it's wrapped in a fun way,
Speaker:or there's a fun ribbon on it or something,
Speaker:but that ought to all be planned out.
Speaker:It doesn't just happen by accident.
Speaker:So something for everybody to consider.
Speaker:And the second point is about emails.
Speaker:Obviously when you're online,
Speaker:we've talked a lot about in past episodes,
Speaker:on lead generators and how you get customers to opt in
Speaker:so that you're able to attract their email.
Speaker:When you have a brick and mortar shop,
Speaker:you have a very unique opportunity because you're face-to-face with a
Speaker:customer. When they walk into your store,
Speaker:do you have any creative or interesting ways or ideas for
Speaker:our listeners,
Speaker:Mary of ways you can capture that email when they're right
Speaker:in your shop?
Speaker:Well, the last thing you want to do is say,
Speaker:sign up for my newsletter because nobody wants one more newsletter
Speaker:in their email.
Speaker:But what you can do is possibly have a giveaway and
Speaker:maybe each month you offer a giveaway of a $10 gift
Speaker:certificate or a $20 gift certificate.
Speaker:And so it could be,
Speaker:I sign up to win this basket or gift box or
Speaker:this gift certificate,
Speaker:or sign up to get our monthly specials.
Speaker:Oh, There you go.
Speaker:That's kind of a newsletter,
Speaker:but it's really not termed that People love to get specials
Speaker:and be in the know.
Speaker:So maybe,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:they're signing up to be part of your private shopping group,
Speaker:their own private little community that gets specials that nobody else
Speaker:would get.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:customers love to feel that they're a part of a unique
Speaker:community, any place that you could possibly get emails.
Speaker:You definitely want to get it.
Speaker:If you're out doing an event,
Speaker:I always take some kind of gift that we're going to
Speaker:give away.
Speaker:And it's a registered a win type of thing so that
Speaker:I can get emails from people that are at the event.
Speaker:You might want to give people a bass back coupon,
Speaker:for instance,
Speaker:customers that are coming in during the holidays,
Speaker:when you're probably have more traffic than normal,
Speaker:give them a bounce back coupon for something that's going to
Speaker:happen in January or February,
Speaker:whether it's a discount or whatever,
Speaker:but in order to use that coupon,
Speaker:then they have to give you their email address.
Speaker:Oh, there you go.
Speaker:Yeah. So things like that as opposed to sign up for
Speaker:my newsletter,
Speaker:which nobody wants to do anymore.
Speaker:And Not that this is totally connected with emails,
Speaker:but you do bring up a good point about bounce-back coupons,
Speaker:look at Kohl's.
Speaker:And I'm sure a lot of us here,
Speaker:especially if you're listening from America have gone into Kohl's,
Speaker:they are experts at that.
Speaker:They give you a coupon,
Speaker:right at checkout,
Speaker:which gives you a discount off starting maybe a week later,
Speaker:or, you know,
Speaker:and then it goes for another week or something like that.
Speaker:And I am sure that's how they just keep getting more
Speaker:people in the store and repeat customers in the store.
Speaker:I'm sure their platform allows for that because they offer such
Speaker:deep discounts,
Speaker:but they know they're going to have the repetition of customers
Speaker:as well.
Speaker:Absolutely. And I really want to make sure everybody understands that
Speaker:when you give a bounce-back coupon,
Speaker:it doesn't have to be for a discount.
Speaker:Cause I don't think we want to be known as always
Speaker:giving discounts and always being on sale,
Speaker:kind of like the department stores app,
Speaker:but you could give something extra.
Speaker:So possibly for a bounce back coupon,
Speaker:as opposed to doing a price off or a percent off
Speaker:or a dollar off you offer them something extra.
Speaker:So maybe it's come back in January and buy a pair
Speaker:of earrings and get a scarf for free.
Speaker:That's a little exorbitant,
Speaker:but you know what I mean?
Speaker:If you want to give them something extra,
Speaker:as opposed to giving them a dollar or a percentage off.
Speaker:Great Advice.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So Mary,
Speaker:we've been talking about and pulling out from you all of
Speaker:these insights that you have in the retail environment.
Speaker:Talk to us a little bit more about be business smart
Speaker:and what it is that you can provide retailers and not
Speaker:necessarily how they can get in touch with you because we're
Speaker:gonna do that later.
Speaker:But what your business is all about and what you are
Speaker:doing now to support brick and mortar shops.
Speaker:All right,
Speaker:thank you.
Speaker:Well, I mean,
Speaker:obviously I work one-on-one with retailers to help them find you
Speaker:in their merchandise concepts or maybe hiring and training,
Speaker:putting their systems in place so that they can indeed have
Speaker:a life outside of their retail store.
Speaker:Because as we know,
Speaker:owning your own retail store can be all consuming and you
Speaker:do want to have a life outside of it.
Speaker:It always kind of helps.
Speaker:So I am working one-on-one with people,
Speaker:but I'm also creating systems.
Speaker:So that next year after the holidays are over and I
Speaker:can concentrate on it.
Speaker:We're going to be launching a membership site as well as
Speaker:some online courses for a retailer so that they can learn
Speaker:online and that they can become a part of this membership
Speaker:site. That's all of these other retailers who love being in
Speaker:business and who can support each other and help each other
Speaker:and be there when you've got just the silliest question that
Speaker:you can't possibly figure out how to do,
Speaker:but you can go online to this private Facebook community and
Speaker:say, Hey,
Speaker:this is what I'm struggling with right now.
Speaker:Who's got an answer for this.
Speaker:And it's just amazing when you're in these private Facebook groups
Speaker:and these membership groups,
Speaker:the answers and support that you can get from people in
Speaker:the same community.
Speaker:I absolutely agree with you.
Speaker:I have a private Facebook group for the ribbon print company
Speaker:and it's only available for customers of ours.
Speaker:And it makes me so happy to know how supportive each
Speaker:person is of each other,
Speaker:even if they have a similar business,
Speaker:but they're in totally different areas of the country.
Speaker:So they're not competitors At all.
Speaker:I love seeing as some of the membership sites that I'm
Speaker:in with some of these Facebook groups and it's just women
Speaker:primarily from all over the world.
Speaker:And it's just amazing what I've learned from them.
Speaker:Totally agree.
Speaker:So good luck with that.
Speaker:And we'll have to make sure to make an announcement when
Speaker:that is up and running for sure.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:We're going to move now into the reflection section.
Speaker:This is where we take a look at you and what's
Speaker:helped you with your success along the way.
Speaker:What natural trait Mary do you have that you think has
Speaker:helped you to succeed?
Speaker:Well, I think there's two first off perseverance.
Speaker:I just kind of a little tenacious,
Speaker:I guess I just like a little bulldog plus also the
Speaker:ability to make a decision quickly.
Speaker:I have always been good at just thinking through the problem,
Speaker:making a decision,
Speaker:moving it forward.
Speaker:No angsting about it,
Speaker:because I mean,
Speaker:that can get you caught in just a whole horrible web
Speaker:of not moving forward at all.
Speaker:So the ability to make a decision quickly,
Speaker:and even if you find out is the wrong decision,
Speaker:then you can turn on a dime and you can make
Speaker:a different decision.
Speaker:And I think that has helped me tremendously.
Speaker:That is really good input.
Speaker:I've heard recently.
Speaker:I don't recall exactly where,
Speaker:but the whole comment of be quick to fail.
Speaker:Yes. You know,
Speaker:you don't have to just sit and decide pros and cons
Speaker:like, you know,
Speaker:analysis paralysis type thing.
Speaker:Just make a decision and move forward and I can clearly
Speaker:see why that trait would help you succeed.
Speaker:For sure.
Speaker:For sure.
Speaker:What tool do you use regularly that helps you keep productive
Speaker:or create that balance that everyone needs in the whole brick
Speaker:and mortar life?
Speaker:The ability to create the systems that let me run the
Speaker:stores and let my staff run the stores so that when
Speaker:I say to a staff member,
Speaker:I need you to check in this merchandise that there's a
Speaker:system in place that they'll do it exactly the way I
Speaker:want it to be done,
Speaker:because we all know we ask a staff member to do
Speaker:something. And we think in our brains that they know how
Speaker:to do it because they've seen us do it so many
Speaker:times and it never gets done the way we want it
Speaker:to be.
Speaker:So it's all of those systems that have really helped me
Speaker:be a success.
Speaker:So Do you then document the systems as well,
Speaker:somewhere? So they have a resource to go to Everything's in
Speaker:writing and I'm crate for forms.
Speaker:I am known as the form queen.
Speaker:There, there is never a doubt as to if you're taking
Speaker:an order from a customer.
Speaker:What the question is you have to ask,
Speaker:or if you're checking in the merchandise,
Speaker:what are the things you have to check in?
Speaker:I have a form for everything and people joke that I
Speaker:have forms for my forms.
Speaker:I bet it gives a certain comfort level to the people
Speaker:that work within the shop to then,
Speaker:because they know that if they are going to encounter something
Speaker:that they're not familiar with,
Speaker:there's a resource that they can go to to get some
Speaker:direction. I know you're not in a shop right now,
Speaker:but a shop owner is not always going to be there
Speaker:as the business grows.
Speaker:Of course,
Speaker:initially they would be.
Speaker:But as the business grows and you have people helping you
Speaker:can't be in your shop forever,
Speaker:or you're not going to be a very short-lived business cause
Speaker:you're going to burn yourself out And that's not on how
Speaker:to do things,
Speaker:but it systems on the conversations to have with the customer.
Speaker:So we have a page,
Speaker:that's a merchandise page for every kind of category so that
Speaker:we list what the benefits and the features are of that
Speaker:particular piece of merchandise and how to sell it and what,
Speaker:how to overcome the objections.
Speaker:Because knowledge of merchandise is everything.
Speaker:Customers really want us to be the experts in what we're
Speaker:selling and we need to be right.
Speaker:Really good input.
Speaker:What book have you read lately that you think our listeners
Speaker:could find value in?
Speaker:I really love jab jab,
Speaker:jab, right hook by Gary Vaynerchuk.
Speaker:It's a terrific book on social media strategies that really takes
Speaker:the overwhelm out of it and gives you some clear strategies
Speaker:on how you can be best on each platform.
Speaker:And then a second book that I love is anything that
Speaker:the Zingerman's people have written Zingerman's is a deli out in
Speaker:Ann Arbor and they are worldwide known for their customer service.
Speaker:And they have several books on great customer service and how
Speaker:to manage and how to be a leader.
Speaker:And their whole system of teaching is just phenomenal.
Speaker:Yeah. You know,
Speaker:that was recommended just on a recent episode.
Speaker:Maybe even the one right before this.
Speaker:Yeah. But both of these are fabulous.
Speaker:In fact,
Speaker:I think what I'll do is I'll go look and see
Speaker:what others Zingerman's books there is.
Speaker:Cause you've read all of them.
Speaker:You say they're all good.
Speaker:All fabulous.
Speaker:I mean their guide to great service is phenomenal.
Speaker:It's a very quick read and it really,
Speaker:really gives you great insight into how you can create great
Speaker:customer service for your stores.
Speaker:And then Ari who's one of the owners of the whole
Speaker:Zingerman's complex as written a couple of other books that are
Speaker:just really good on leadership and visioning and things like that.
Speaker:Fabulous. Well,
Speaker:I'll put a couple of those then on the show notes
Speaker:page, right?
Speaker:So, and listeners,
Speaker:just as you're listening to the podcast today,
Speaker:you can also listen to audio books with ease.
Speaker:I've teamed up with audible for you to be able to
Speaker:get an audio book,
Speaker:just like all these Singerman books or Geary's jab,
Speaker:jab, jab,
Speaker:right. Hook for free.
Speaker:All you need to do is go to gift biz,
Speaker:book.com and make a selection that's gift biz,
Speaker:book.com. Well,
Speaker:Mary, I'm really sad that our time is winding down.
Speaker:Cause I think we could probably talk all afternoon and turn
Speaker:this into like a five-hour podcast.
Speaker:I won't Do it right.
Speaker:We're going to circle into our dare to dream question.
Speaker:I'd like to present you with a virtual gift.
Speaker:It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.
Speaker:This is your dream or goal of almost unreachable Heights that
Speaker:you would wish to obtain.
Speaker:Please accept this gift and open it in our presence.
Speaker:What is inside Inside for me as a raving community of
Speaker:retailers, that's part of the be business smart group and that
Speaker:I'm able to serve them with resources and tips and inspiration
Speaker:that will help them take their stores to whole new Heights
Speaker:and work through all the many hats that every retailer has
Speaker:to wear.
Speaker:I would like to help you obtain that dream because I
Speaker:think with the retail environment right now,
Speaker:doesn't get as much support as they might've felt they had.
Speaker:And with the changing environment,
Speaker:I'm very anxious to see and excited to see what you're
Speaker:putting together for everybody.
Speaker:So I think your dreams going to come true.
Speaker:I think that's going to be a pretty easy one.
Speaker:Well, I hope so.
Speaker:And now Let's go on.
Speaker:How can our listeners get in touch with you in the
Speaker:future? All right,
Speaker:well, B is spelled B E like the bumblebee.
Speaker:So on Facebook where it be business smart,
Speaker:Twitter and Instagram,
Speaker:where it be biz smart Bizz.
Speaker:Our website is B business smart,
Speaker:which is where you can also get two different things that
Speaker:we're offering both the nine touch points of great retail stores,
Speaker:as well as right now,
Speaker:our holiday thing,
Speaker:90 tips to rock your holiday sales.
Speaker:And it's 90 tips that have to do with everything from
Speaker:merchandising, the social media to displays to everything possible,
Speaker:as well as a great planning calendar.
Speaker:So you can go on our website and get both of
Speaker:those and hopefully they will help our retailers get to the
Speaker:other side of Christmas with their Christmas spirit and tax.
Speaker:Well, I have to tell you as Mary and I were
Speaker:planning for this episode,
Speaker:I did download the 90 tips to rock your holiday sales.
Speaker:And I've got to tell you,
Speaker:it is the most complete guide,
Speaker:all in one place.
Speaker:Things I'd never considered before every single person without fail should
Speaker:go and grab that document.
Speaker:It is spectacular.
Speaker:Thank you so much.
Speaker:And don't be overwhelmed by the fact that it's 90 tips.
Speaker:You certainly don't have to use every single one of them,
Speaker:but I think it's good fuel for inspiration.
Speaker:Absolutely. And it's broken a little bit into sections too,
Speaker:so you can just go through and highlight the ones that
Speaker:you need to use right now and save the rest for
Speaker:later. Cause it's some of these also don't need to apply
Speaker:just for holidays,
Speaker:but they're great for specifically brick and mortar.
Speaker:So again,
Speaker:I just don't miss out on this one,
Speaker:grab it while you can,
Speaker:for sure.
Speaker:Sure. And if anybody goes through it and has any questions
Speaker:on any of the tips,
Speaker:they can certainly email me at Marriott,
Speaker:be business smart.com
Speaker:and I'll be more than happy to help them kind of
Speaker:work through it or give them some other tips and a
Speaker:little bit further information about it.
Speaker:Thank you for that.
Speaker:And remember too,
Speaker:that you can always go over to our show notes page.
Speaker:I'll have all of Mary's contact information,
Speaker:including links to where you can go and get both of
Speaker:these freebies that Mary is offering us today.
Speaker:So no excuses.
Speaker:You guys need to do this for your business.
Speaker:Mary, thank you so much for all of the really valuable
Speaker:guidance and information that you've shared with us today.
Speaker:And may your candle always burn bright.
Speaker:Thank you so much your with you and I look forward
Speaker:to listening to your many,
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