Gift Biz Unwrapped,
Speaker:episode number six.
Speaker:Hi, this is John Lee Dumas of Entrepreneur On Fire,
Speaker:and you're listening to Gift Biz Unwrapped.
Speaker:And now it's time to light it up.
Speaker:Welcome to Gift Biz Unwrapped,
Speaker:your source for industry specific insights and advice to develop and
Speaker:grow your business.
Speaker:And now here's your host,
Speaker:Sue Monheit.
Speaker:Hi, I'm Sue Monheit and welcome to the Gift Biz Unwrapped
Speaker:Podcast. Whether you own a brick and mortar store,
Speaker:sell online,
Speaker:or are just getting started,
Speaker:you'll discover new insight to gain traction and grow your business.
Speaker:And today I have with us Deb Condo.
Speaker:Deb is the owner and gift guru of Gift Basket Junction.
Speaker:Her designs have won a number of national awards and have
Speaker:been featured in many magazines over the years.
Speaker:In 2013,
Speaker:Deb was one of the first to qualify for the Gift
Speaker:Basket Association as a certified gift educator and certified gift designer.
Speaker:She's on the faculty of the National Gift Basket Convention and
Speaker:teaches locally in her community in Phoenix.
Speaker:Deb is a contributing author for the Gift Basket industry book
Speaker:called Fundamentals,
Speaker:A book of basic Concepts for your Gift Basket business.
Speaker:And this month meaning out right now,
Speaker:is her new book called Foundations,
Speaker:the Gift Basket Design Book.
Speaker:Now her bio includes a lot about gift baskets,
Speaker:but I can tell you there's even more going on in
Speaker:her life than that and I'm sure we'll get into it
Speaker:as we go along.
Speaker:Deb, how are you doing this morning?
Speaker:Doing well,
Speaker:Sue. How are you?
Speaker:I'm good.
Speaker:Is there anything else you'd like to add to what I've
Speaker:already shared with our audience about you?
Speaker:No, that's quite a lot Actually.
Speaker:Well, I know we're gonna be talking about some other things
Speaker:that will get our audience to know more about you as
Speaker:we go along.
Speaker:I'd like to start the conversation and revolve it around the
Speaker:life of a candle.
Speaker:The light shines on you while we share your stories and
Speaker:experiences. Are you ready to light it up?
Speaker:I am,
Speaker:I am.
Speaker:Wonderful. Help us to envision what your candle looks like.
Speaker:What color is it?
Speaker:It's a light blue.
Speaker:And why light blue?
Speaker:Light blue reminds me of breathing and grounding.
Speaker:It's a nurturing color.
Speaker:Most specifically,
Speaker:it reminds me of the ocean.
Speaker:And so the ocean has this breath,
Speaker:it leaves in and it breathes out and it helps us,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:stay connected.
Speaker:That light of the blue,
Speaker:that light of the ocean,
Speaker:sometimes it can be even be the light of the sky.
Speaker:So for me it's nurturing.
Speaker:And what quote then would be on your light blue candle?
Speaker:Well, I would have to say breathe,
Speaker:because we take that for granted a lot.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:people don't realize that sometimes they have to take a step
Speaker:back and just,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:breathe. Absolutely.
Speaker:I think especially as owners of businesses,
Speaker:you get so caught up in the day-to-day doings of the
Speaker:business, everything you wanna get done,
Speaker:all of your goals.
Speaker:And sometimes it just gets so overwhelming.
Speaker:This idea of just stepping back and breathing makes a whole
Speaker:lot of sense.
Speaker:Yeah. If you don't take care of yourself,
Speaker:where are you gonna live?
Speaker:Exactly. You know,
Speaker:what it brings,
Speaker:it brings to mind.
Speaker:My daughter is a basketball player or,
Speaker:or was playing.
Speaker:And when she would,
Speaker:when she would be going for some serious shots or there'd
Speaker:be a really intense game,
Speaker:she wrote the word breathe on her wrist to remind her
Speaker:to just chill out.
Speaker:Because you can do your best when you're the most natural.
Speaker:Yes. All right,
Speaker:so let's talk a little bit,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:you've had quite an experience with your gift basket business.
Speaker:Let's go back and start with how you got into this
Speaker:in the very beginning.
Speaker:What gave you that inner spark that all of a sudden
Speaker:said, this is the business I'm going to create.
Speaker:I've always wanted to be an entrepreneur ever since I was
Speaker:a kid.
Speaker:And when I got into my early twenties,
Speaker:I realized that,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:maybe I could start something right after college.
Speaker:So I started making hair accessories and selling 'em in my
Speaker:local community.
Speaker:And then I got into designing wedding bridal headpieces.
Speaker:And the original desire that I had was to actually,
Speaker:I started a wedding planning business.
Speaker:So I started writing a business plan for that,
Speaker:but it wasn't the right time.
Speaker:And I just graduated from college.
Speaker:I didn't have a whole lot of money,
Speaker:my relationships weren't the best.
Speaker:And so it just,
Speaker:the timing was off.
Speaker:And then I jumped into 2005 and I still obviously wanted
Speaker:to be my own boss.
Speaker:And just one night deep sleep,
Speaker:I woke up and it was like an aha moment out
Speaker:of my slumber that ran into the office and just started
Speaker:writing a business plan.
Speaker:And my husband came in there and at the time we
Speaker:had talked about it,
Speaker:he and I,
Speaker:about starting a business but didn't know what it was gonna
Speaker:be. And he came in and he said,
Speaker:what are you doing?
Speaker:And I said,
Speaker:I have an idea and I have to write it down
Speaker:right now.
Speaker:And that's when Gift Basket Junction was born.
Speaker:We started the process about two days later with an attorney.
Speaker:And so you woke up in the middle of the night
Speaker:and with all of a sudden thinking my business is going
Speaker:to be gift baskets.
Speaker:I Did,
Speaker:yes. Divine intervention perhaps Of maybe Of some sort one or
Speaker:the other.
Speaker:Well, I had a girlfriend when I was in college who
Speaker:used to send me gifts and baskets that had a theme.
Speaker:And sometimes she sent them from a as far away as
Speaker:Greece, cuz she was married and her husband was in the
Speaker:Air Force.
Speaker:And you know,
Speaker:she was thinking of me.
Speaker:So when I started thinking about the businesses I wanna be
Speaker:in, apparently it was something under my pillow telling me I
Speaker:needed to do this.
Speaker:And so I thought of her and it was just one
Speaker:of those things that happened.
Speaker:And I really,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:Susan was my inspiration.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:when people think about businesses,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:they go in search and are so assertive in terms of
Speaker:what's the business gonna be?
Speaker:I'm gonna find the answer right away.
Speaker:And you're qualifying that,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:sometimes you just have to let the concept sit that you
Speaker:wanna open a business and then eventually what it really should
Speaker:be will be revealed to you at some point.
Speaker:Yes. Because That's kind of what happened to you.
Speaker:Yes. All right.
Speaker:So you started the business.
Speaker:Give us a little feel for how that worked.
Speaker:You said you met with an attorney and put the whole
Speaker:structure together within a few days.
Speaker:Yeah, and you know,
Speaker:back back then the internet was still fairly new.
Speaker:I did some research trying to find basket businesses in the
Speaker:area and it seemed like there were a few,
Speaker:but their websites weren't all that grand.
Speaker:But again,
Speaker:the technology wasn't all that grand either.
Speaker:And so I did put together a website and I'd reached
Speaker:out to a networking event and my Chamber of Commerce and
Speaker:got involved with them.
Speaker:And that's essentially how it all started,
Speaker:had to be after work because I was working full-time.
Speaker:But I started slowly getting my name out there.
Speaker:Really important point you bring up because you didn't just decide
Speaker:you were gonna start the business and then just go into
Speaker:it. You put together a business plan,
Speaker:you researched your competition,
Speaker:look to see what their presence looked like in the market,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:how they were positioned,
Speaker:I'm sure.
Speaker:And then figured out what you should do for your business.
Speaker:So to strategically position yourself within the market,
Speaker:really important for everyone to remember if you're out there starting
Speaker:a business is,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:just because Deb liked the idea of gift baskets,
Speaker:she also looked at how that business could could succeed based
Speaker:on who was already in the market.
Speaker:So you were working,
Speaker:the business was then part-time at nights,
Speaker:weekends, et cetera.
Speaker:And it's been that way for the whole time.
Speaker:It was like that for nine and a half years.
Speaker:Nine and yeah,
Speaker:nine and a half years.
Speaker:And then we moved to Phoenix last August,
Speaker:2014, and right after the gift basket convention,
Speaker:I had to restart my business closing down the licensing out
Speaker:of Denver and Colorado and Ree establishing myself in Phoenix.
Speaker:So you absolutely have to love the business if you pick
Speaker:up and leave and then go to another market.
Speaker:Yeah, and what I learned the first time,
Speaker:I was able to easily integrate the second time because I
Speaker:knew what to expect and I knew what avenues to follow
Speaker:through. So if I were to start a different business,
Speaker:completely didn't have to be gift baskets,
Speaker:I would know where to go.
Speaker:Now using my small business experience with the gift baskets has
Speaker:helped me realize the technology that's out there and the people
Speaker:that are willing to help you.
Speaker:And so if it's a federal thing or a state thing,
Speaker:you can find the websites through your local community.
Speaker:You can give them a call and ask them,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:what, what you need for licensing and how to go about
Speaker:the whole tax structure.
Speaker:There's a lot more to it than just making a basket.
Speaker:Small business is what drives America and you wanna do it.
Speaker:Right. Let's talk a little bit about when things weren't so
Speaker:great, when was a time,
Speaker:and give us a specific example of when that inner flame
Speaker:of the business,
Speaker:the passion that you had,
Speaker:wasn't so bright,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:a rough time that you went through and how did you
Speaker:overcome it?
Speaker:I've always,
Speaker:I have had the passion,
Speaker:but always be aware of the negativity of others.
Speaker:I will say that whether it's a family,
Speaker:a friend,
Speaker:or just other businesses or even in the community,
Speaker:my biggest struggle was,
Speaker:like I said,
Speaker:getting my name out there.
Speaker:I was working in corporate America full time when I started
Speaker:my business.
Speaker:And so the only times I could go out and network
Speaker:were really early in the morning and right after work.
Speaker:Now some of my bosses were really fine with the fact
Speaker:that I had some outside interests.
Speaker:Others weren't so thrilled they had me walking on eggshells.
Speaker:And that's not a comfortable feeling to have when you're working
Speaker:in a corporate environment.
Speaker:So I had to be really conscious about what I said
Speaker:and what I did and how I talked about my interests
Speaker:outside of work.
Speaker:And that's not really fair because if your folks at work
Speaker:like you as a person and they want to see you
Speaker:grow, you would think that they would want to see you
Speaker:grow in all aspects of your life,
Speaker:not just under one roof of a corporate environment.
Speaker:To let all of our listeners understand you were not working
Speaker:in a competitive industry.
Speaker:So it's not like you were putting,
Speaker:taking something up on the side that was going to compete
Speaker:with or steal business from your full-time job.
Speaker:Totally unrelated businesses,
Speaker:Totally unrelated.
Speaker:And I was a transportation and logistics manager for a very
Speaker:long time for this organization.
Speaker:In fact,
Speaker:I've been in transportation and logistics for well over 20 years.
Speaker:So no,
Speaker:they had nothing to do with one another at all.
Speaker:Yeah. So there was really no risk other than you were
Speaker:putting in time elsewhere,
Speaker:but it was on your personal time.
Speaker:That's correct.
Speaker:What did you do besides just be real careful about who
Speaker:you spoke with about your business?
Speaker:Or did you just totally keep it out of your workday
Speaker:entirely? Well,
Speaker:I used my cell phone a lot.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I would go out into the hallway when I did get
Speaker:a call for an order or something.
Speaker:So that was my 10 minutes of a break time,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:go take a basket order.
Speaker:And then I lived close enough from my work to my
Speaker:home that I could go home at lunch and create a
Speaker:basket and actually get it delivered and before lunch was over
Speaker:and come back.
Speaker:Wow. Yeah,
Speaker:That's dedication and one big juggling act.
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:And at one point I did have a shop and it
Speaker:was between my house and my office.
Speaker:So I was able to even be another mile closer to
Speaker:my, you know,
Speaker:my office to go there,
Speaker:make the baskets,
Speaker:maybe even meet somebody for a pickup and then,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:swing by,
Speaker:grab something to eat and then go back to the office.
Speaker:Definitely a juggling act.
Speaker:Can you share with us a promotion or an event that
Speaker:you did that made a real difference?
Speaker:Maybe it,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:brought in new customers or it increased sales or moved a
Speaker:particular product,
Speaker:something like that.
Speaker:I would have to say it was more of a life
Speaker:event, although it was a promotion for my husband in one
Speaker:sense, he accepted a new role and actually a new job
Speaker:in Arizona.
Speaker:So we had to move from Colorado to Phoenix in August
Speaker:of 2014.
Speaker:And I had belonged to a networking group in Colorado,
Speaker:like I mentioned before.
Speaker:And I had re searched several groups out in the Phoenix
Speaker:area when I got here.
Speaker:And I decided to stick with the one I had belonged
Speaker:with in Colorado.
Speaker:And I visited a few and I found one that fit
Speaker:my personality the best.
Speaker:And I was really grateful for this because the move was
Speaker:exactly what I needed to grow my business.
Speaker:And it wasn't just the networking group,
Speaker:it was how they saw me.
Speaker:I found that the demographics played a huge role in growing
Speaker:my business,
Speaker:where the small business owners in Colorado,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:they didn't give a lot of thank you gifts.
Speaker:The opposite was true here in Arizona where they're all for
Speaker:it. I'm a yoga teacher and when my students find out
Speaker:that I create custom gifts,
Speaker:they go to my Facebook page,
Speaker:I show 'em pictures on my phone and they just started
Speaker:ordering where that wasn't the case.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:in Colorado,
Speaker:I, I could show them pictures until my face was blue
Speaker:and they say,
Speaker:oh yeah,
Speaker:those are really pretty.
Speaker:But then their mindset went somewhere else.
Speaker:But in Phoenix I find that they are more excited and
Speaker:I just,
Speaker:I have more orders with small businesses and individuals alike.
Speaker:The designs and ideas sell themselves out here a lot more
Speaker:than they did in Colorado.
Speaker:And nothing changed in the way the delivery was.
Speaker:Or your designs.
Speaker:Or the designs seriously believe it's the demographics in the two
Speaker:areas. You make a really good point here because as you
Speaker:look at your business,
Speaker:you can't necessarily compare your business to someone in the same
Speaker:industry in a different market.
Speaker:You can't compare results,
Speaker:you can't necessarily compare designs because every market is so different.
Speaker:You also can't compare pricing.
Speaker:What Deb might be able to charge in Arizona might be
Speaker:different than someone who's in Alabama,
Speaker:who's in Chicago,
Speaker:who's in New York.
Speaker:So although you can take guidelines,
Speaker:you really have to look at your specific markets and your
Speaker:product within the market and make decisions based on your unique
Speaker:situation. And Deb,
Speaker:I bet you never even considered this fact that it was
Speaker:gonna look so different when you got to Arizona.
Speaker:I had no idea.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I moved right before the holidays,
Speaker:so I was kind of worried about keeping those clients in
Speaker:the Denver market and figuring out how to make it work
Speaker:with the shipping back and forth.
Speaker:But they didn't mind,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:the cost of delivery was pretty much about the same as
Speaker:the cost of shipping.
Speaker:So they still got what they wanted,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:which was a basket to their client and on their budget.
Speaker:Well, kudos to you because they stuck by you in a
Speaker:big move.
Speaker:So that says a lot for the product and the service
Speaker:that you provide.
Speaker:One of the things I wanna clarify that we've been talking
Speaker:about, just in case our listeners don't know this,
Speaker:there are several national organizations out there,
Speaker:LA Tip being one of them,
Speaker:B Nni being another that are very structured,
Speaker:organized groups and most likely they're sitting right in your community
Speaker:or a neighboring community if you just Googled them.
Speaker:And many of them have openings for different types of industries.
Speaker:They usually are industry exclusive.
Speaker:Like if Deb was there as a gift basket person,
Speaker:you probably wouldn't have enough person within the same industry in
Speaker:the group.
Speaker:And everyone shares leads and learnings and sometimes they'll be presenters.
Speaker:So it's a great resource for you to check out if
Speaker:you're in a situation where you're building or growing your business
Speaker:and you'd like the support and help of other people that
Speaker:you initially don't know in your area.
Speaker:Deb, I wanna get back to this whole concept of customer
Speaker:service, cuz obviously you're rocking it.
Speaker:Given that you've kept so many of your customers as you've
Speaker:transitioned across states on the customer service end,
Speaker:what specifically do you do to make your customers feel valued
Speaker:and appreciated?
Speaker:I ask a lot of questions.
Speaker:Well, my recipient is sick,
Speaker:or you know,
Speaker:I find they find out that they're gonna have a baby,
Speaker:something like that.
Speaker:The buyer wants something specific and they may not think that
Speaker:they want something spec specific until I start asking them.
Speaker:Almost everything I do is custom.
Speaker:If you look on my website,
Speaker:much of that stuff is drop shipped and I,
Speaker:I can get feedback from the buyer on,
Speaker:well, I like this,
Speaker:but I wanna change this.
Speaker:And so I will take their budget and I'll work backwards
Speaker:from there.
Speaker:And then when the basket is complete and I think I
Speaker:figured it out,
Speaker:what the recipient's gonna love,
Speaker:I'll take a picture of it and I'll either send it
Speaker:by a text message or I'll send it to them via
Speaker:email. It just depends on how they like to receive their
Speaker:technology and their communication.
Speaker:And then if,
Speaker:if I'm delivering it myself,
Speaker:I'll do the same thing.
Speaker:I'll send them an email or a text to tell 'em
Speaker:that it delivered.
Speaker:And then depending on where it's going and if they require
Speaker:shipping, tracking,
Speaker:whatever, I will give that to them.
Speaker:But usually I can get the tracking information comes to my
Speaker:phone and it gives me an update that it delivered.
Speaker:And usually I can just tell them right away,
Speaker:Hey, this delivered.
Speaker:And they really appreciate that.
Speaker:I bet the pictures too,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:that's a really nice touch because so many times,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:e even like if you order flowers,
Speaker:if you order gift baskets,
Speaker:you just have to assume that what you're sending them is
Speaker:going to look how you imagine it in terms of what
Speaker:you ordered.
Speaker:And especially if you're doing custom,
Speaker:taking a picture of that specific basket and sending it on
Speaker:is really unique.
Speaker:I love that idea.
Speaker:Well, They,
Speaker:the buyer,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:will look at it and go,
Speaker:oh my god,
Speaker:that's way more than I expected.
Speaker:Which is A really,
Speaker:that's what you want.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:Fabulous. Okay,
Speaker:we're gonna move now,
Speaker:Deb, into our reflection section.
Speaker:This is where we take a look at you and see
Speaker:what's helped you along the way with your success.
Speaker:What is one trait for you that just comes naturally that
Speaker:you say has helped you to succeed?
Speaker:Determination. You know,
Speaker:you have to stay positive in the face of adversity.
Speaker:My dad always told me when I was a kid that
Speaker:you get up when you fall down.
Speaker:And now I have,
Speaker:I've been in sports since I was a kid,
Speaker:and the last five years have been really trying,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I could tell you horror stories,
Speaker:but it's always been about the determination.
Speaker:Deb, I want,
Speaker:I want you to tell us one horror story,
Speaker:will you?
Speaker:Sure. Go for it.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:I'm an Iron Man athlete and I've done five in the
Speaker:last four years.
Speaker:And yeah,
Speaker:the last couple actually,
Speaker:it seems like every one of 'em have some kind of
Speaker:horror story in them,
Speaker:but it's the body and I tell you,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:take care of it where you're gonna live.
Speaker:When the body starts to give you feedback and you're in
Speaker:a situation like finishing 140.6
Speaker:mile race,
Speaker:it comes down to the determination and it comes down to
Speaker:the breath to just breathe,
Speaker:determined to get through it,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:through the aches and pains,
Speaker:whether the,
Speaker:the knees hurt or the feet hurt or the back hurts,
Speaker:the brain doesn't hurt.
Speaker:It's that ego that probably hurts more than anything else.
Speaker:And you just push through The brain doesn't hurt,
Speaker:The body hurts a lot,
Speaker:but you're determined to get past that.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:again, staying positive in the face of adversity.
Speaker:Yeah. So your example is really more from the physical end.
Speaker:I couldn't even do a quarter of what you do physically,
Speaker:that's for sure.
Speaker:But then you just apply that same determination to your business
Speaker:too, it sounds like.
Speaker:Yes. What tool do you use regularly to keep productive or
Speaker:to help create balance in your life?
Speaker:Well, that's easy.
Speaker:Yoga, you know,
Speaker:I, as I mentioned earlier,
Speaker:I'm a teacher,
Speaker:have been for the last two years,
Speaker:been practicing yoga for probably five.
Speaker:I always tell my students at the end of our session
Speaker:that to find peace in the world,
Speaker:you must first understand your body because we have to understand
Speaker:where we are as beings in space.
Speaker:And I don't mean aliens,
Speaker:you know where we are and how we take up space.
Speaker:And when we breathe and actually focus on the breath,
Speaker:we calm the mind and we calm all the chaos.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:the postures are secondary breathing is a just a simple task
Speaker:that people take for granted,
Speaker:just like we talked about with the candle and the quote,
Speaker:if you take care of yourself,
Speaker:everything falls into place.
Speaker:But if you don't take care of yourself,
Speaker:think about this.
Speaker:Where would you live?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I remind my students to let go what doesn't serve them.
Speaker:So whether it's an negative energy,
Speaker:a thought,
Speaker:a conversation,
Speaker:maybe it's a friend or who you thought was a friend
Speaker:or acquaintance,
Speaker:and you know,
Speaker:social media can sometimes play a big role in who you
Speaker:thought your friends were,
Speaker:but you wanna move to your passion and moving in that
Speaker:passion you have to breathe.
Speaker:I heard this quote once,
Speaker:I read it somewhere many,
Speaker:many times,
Speaker:and I don't know who it's by,
Speaker:but it says,
Speaker:yoga's not about touching your toes,
Speaker:it's what you learn on the way down.
Speaker:And so in your business,
Speaker:it's not about making a whole bunch of money,
Speaker:it could be,
Speaker:but it's who you learn to be while you get there.
Speaker:So you take those experiences and,
Speaker:and you know,
Speaker:you learn who you are.
Speaker:Really powerful.
Speaker:You're right,
Speaker:it's the journey.
Speaker:It's not the,
Speaker:it's not the destination,
Speaker:it's the journey.
Speaker:I love what you've been talking about,
Speaker:Deb, because throughout this whole conversation,
Speaker:it, you know,
Speaker:there's just one general theme,
Speaker:and that is breathing and determination and staying calm through chaos.
Speaker:And, you know,
Speaker:the yoga and all of that kind of spiritual,
Speaker:but physical,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:body physical things to help you be as strong as you
Speaker:can because everybody knows,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:when you're starting a business and you're,
Speaker:and you're having a business for the long haul as you
Speaker:have, it is taxing.
Speaker:And the way you've approached it is always calm,
Speaker:take a step back,
Speaker:breathe, figure it out and carry on.
Speaker:Yeah, you have to take care of yourself when you're,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:in a business,
Speaker:because if you don't,
Speaker:the business is gonna fall apart,
Speaker:Right? If you're,
Speaker:if you're stressed,
Speaker:that conveys out into your business.
Speaker:And you know,
Speaker:customers don't wanna work with a stressed individual.
Speaker:They want their experience,
Speaker:their buying experience to be easy and simple.
Speaker:And if you are calm and relaxed and you make it
Speaker:simple for them,
Speaker:they'll keep coming back.
Speaker:Really Good insight.
Speaker:Deb, let's talk about your book.
Speaker:Give our listeners just a little bit of an outline in,
Speaker:in terms of what your book is like so that they
Speaker:understand. Well,
Speaker:I believe that anybody can make a gift basket,
Speaker:but to be a gift basket to designer,
Speaker:you have to have the personal touches and give the wow
Speaker:factor. I mean,
Speaker:anybody can make put stuff in a basket and call a
Speaker:basket. There's no denying that.
Speaker:But what I do is I help the reader understand how
Speaker:to bring up the wow factor,
Speaker:how to make things appear more valuable than maybe what's inside.
Speaker:So turning,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:a bag of pretzels into something really cool.
Speaker:And I know that that sounds funny,
Speaker:but it's what we're trying to convey as you know,
Speaker:sellers, as retailers,
Speaker:that we want you to buy this and we have to
Speaker:give them a reason to want to buy it.
Speaker:So would this be a good resource if someone has a
Speaker:chocolate shop or some other type of gourmet product or crafting
Speaker:product that they would wanna package into gift baskets and present
Speaker:them? Would this be a good guideline in terms of how
Speaker:to build it and make it a professional presentation?
Speaker:Yes. So I start from the,
Speaker:the basics and then we build from the ground up.
Speaker:That's why I called it foundations.
Speaker:In order to build,
Speaker:you have to have a solid foundation.
Speaker:So if it's a house,
Speaker:you have to have,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:the concrete,
Speaker:if you have a basket,
Speaker:you have to have a gift basket,
Speaker:you have to have the basket and the correct foundation so
Speaker:that your stuff doesn't fall over.
Speaker:When you build a house,
Speaker:you don't want the walls to fall over.
Speaker:So when you build a basket,
Speaker:you don't want your design to fall over.
Speaker:And I talk about building it from the ground up and
Speaker:then finishing off with wrapping in a bow.
Speaker:Well, if this is something that you're interested in,
Speaker:again, Deb's book is called Foundations the Gift Basket Design book,
Speaker:and I'll have a link to it over in the show
Speaker:notesPage@giftbizunwrapped.com. Do you have another book that you think our listeners
Speaker:would find value in?
Speaker:I just recently read Wild by Cheryl Stray,
Speaker:and I had no idea it was gonna turn into a
Speaker:movie, but you know,
Speaker:she, Sheryl Stray was one determined young lady,
Speaker:and she learned a lot about herself and the goal that
Speaker:she had for herself.
Speaker:She, you know,
Speaker:she had to concentrate on her body and her thoughts and
Speaker:her goal was huge.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:the Pack Northwest know that trail from California all the way
Speaker:north, and it took a lot of courage for her to
Speaker:get into that hike and that goal.
Speaker:And you know,
Speaker:too often we give up on things when they get difficult,
Speaker:but if you stay on the path,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:we can learn what we're capable of.
Speaker:And just like,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:that quote from earlier about not being able to touch her
Speaker:toes. It's that journey.
Speaker:She learned a lot in that journey of who she would
Speaker:become today.
Speaker:Love it.
Speaker:Gift Biz listeners,
Speaker:just as you're listening to the podcast today,
Speaker:you can listen to an audio book like Deb's talking about
Speaker:with ease.
Speaker:Get an audio book like this for free.
Speaker:All you need to do is go to gift biz book.com
Speaker:and make a selection.
Speaker:That's gift biz book.com.
Speaker:Okay, we're circling around Deb,
Speaker:to the Dare to Dream section.
Speaker:I would like to present you with a virtual gift.
Speaker:It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.
Speaker:This is your dream or goal of almost unreachable heights that
Speaker:you would wish to obtain.
Speaker:Please accept this gift,
Speaker:open it in our presence,
Speaker:and tell us what's inside.
Speaker:Wow, that's really tough.
Speaker:I don't need or want much,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I prefer to create and teach and give.
Speaker:It's just who I,
Speaker:I am.
Speaker:And as long as I can do those things,
Speaker:I have peace.
Speaker:So not to sound like a Miss America Compa contestant here,
Speaker:but I would say peace.
Speaker:Peace within and peace for others,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:so that we can all find balance in our passions,
Speaker:in our lives for what we really desire.
Speaker:Maybe that's a spiritual thing,
Speaker:but for me it's a being thing.
Speaker:Thank you for asking that question.
Speaker:That is a really tough one.
Speaker:Well, it makes you think,
Speaker:doesn't it?
Speaker:If you could have anything that's,
Speaker:that's why it's my favorite question of the whole interview.
Speaker:So gift biz listeners,
Speaker:if you did not catch any of the things that we've
Speaker:talked about,
Speaker:remember you can just jump over to the show notes.
Speaker:I'll have links and a lot of information over there for
Speaker:you, and you can reference all of that@giftbizunwrapped.com.
Speaker:Deb, if anyone wanted to get in touch with you,
Speaker:what would be the best way for them to do so?
Speaker:Deb, at gift basket junction.com.
Speaker:Wonderful. And that's where they can see all of your gift
Speaker:baskets as well,
Speaker:I presume?
Speaker:Yes, at gift basket junction.com.
Speaker:Yeah. Unless they're doing a super custom one,
Speaker:at which point they probably will need to call you.
Speaker:Yeah, They'll have to go to Facebook and look and,
Speaker:but, but yeah,
Speaker:I can be reached just about anywhere if you just look
Speaker:it up.
Speaker:Okay. And we'll have all those contact links on the show
Speaker:notes page.
Speaker:Thank you so much,
Speaker:Deb. This has been really valuable.
Speaker:You've shared a ton of really good in information and really
Speaker:good concepts just for us to keep in mind as we're
Speaker:growing and building our businesses,
Speaker:and Deb,
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