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Breaking the Cycle: Healing Self-Punishment and Self-Sabotage from Past Lives
Episode 10 • 24th January 2022 • The Infinite Life with Katische Haberfield • Katische Haberfield
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Do you find yourself constantly self-sabotaging and punishing yourself for no apparent reason? Join Katische as she shares her incredible journey of self-discovery, where she explores the concept of past lives and the connection to our current struggles. Through accessing the Akashic Records, Katische unravels the mystery of her self-punishing behavior and discovers the past life where it all began. Don't miss this thought-provoking episode that may just provide the key to unlocking your own self-destructive patterns.

"Release the past, free the present, and awaken to the possibilities of the future with spirit regression and releasement therapy. Let go of what no longer serves you and embrace the light within."

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Welcome to The Infinite Life, a transformative podcast that dives deep into the mysteries of the soul, past lives, and the infinite nature of existence. As a Spiritual Regression Therapist, Medium, Author, and Spirit Releasement Therapist, I've helped countless individuals unlock the secrets of their past lives and embrace their true spiritual potential.

In each episode, we explore the fascinating topic of reincarnation, giving you insights into your past, present, and future lives. But that's not all - you'll hear from podcast listeners who share their incredible past life stories and realizations, and we also interview spiritual guests who share their unique perspectives on the soul and the universe.

But what truly sets The Infinite Life apart is our behind-the-scenes look at real spiritual regression and spirit releasement sessions. With my client's approval, we share these sessions, giving you a firsthand glimpse into the incredible transformations that can happen when you tap into the infinite power of the soul.

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Katische:

Welcome back to

Katische:

the Infinite Life Podcast.

Katische:

I'm your host, Kati Haberfield,

Katische:

and this week we have quite the

Katische:

episode for you to start with.

Katische:

We'll start on a light note and

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we will listen to an unsolicited

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recording that I received on the

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podcast recorder about past lives

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and the impact that they can have

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positively on your life and your career.

Katische:

Scott's message has a positive and

Katische:

uplifting undertone to it, and he will

Katische:

be one of our guests coming shortly,

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so be sure to watch out for Scott's

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podcast episode Coming soon mean The

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majority of this podcast episode is

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however very emotionally dense, so

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I'm giving you this warning right now.

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If you're not up for it, you

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might wanna come back and

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listen to this episode later.

Katische:

Why?

Katische:

This episode is another episode

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where we delve into my past lives.

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So we've already covered one of them in

Katische:

the very first episode of the podcast

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where we looked at a spontaneous

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past life realization that I had

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involving being a monk, um, in Tibet,

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and how that unfolded in my life.

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Well, in this episode, we're going

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to be looking at another spiritual

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lifetime, however, this time.

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This is a spiritually dense lifetime,

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and so in lifetimes we have spiritually

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dense, or traditionally we might call

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those negative lifetimes and positive

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lifetimes and even lifetimes where we just

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have it easy and nothing much happens.

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But this one is a

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particularly dense lifetime.

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So just warning about that.

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The purpose of sharing this with you

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is for you to understand the powerful

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reasons behind why you would want to

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investigate your past lives and why

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it's important as part of doing the

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work and understanding the journey

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that your soul has taken across time.

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And I do feel that if you're gonna

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learn from me through listening to

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these podcast episodes that I'm no

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better or worse than anybody else, I've

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had many, many incarnations, both good

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and interesting, and I'm here to share

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them with you so that you can gain an

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insight into somebody else's lifetimes.

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You may learn from me or get your own aha.

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Insight.

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So we'll be having a look at a particular

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spiritual lifetime, which had a.

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Negative impact because it

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created limiting beliefs due to

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my experiences and vows that I've

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carried over my lifetime since then.

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In fact, they've been carried along

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with me for over or because we

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can't be precise around 700 years.

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So I want to let you know, however, that

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it ends on a happy note and I end the

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episode reframing the experiences that I

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had in that lifetime so that you can see

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the lessons that I'm able to take into

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it right now in 2022 and how that will

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affect my life from this point forward.

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So I just wanna remind you before we

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go any further that we're about to go

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into a spiritually intense session.

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What you're about to hear is actually

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a little bit more of an introduction

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from me about the background or the

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backstory to why I did this session.

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And then we're gonna dive deep straight

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into an Aach records session and you

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will hear me experience intent, intense

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emotions, and you may feel distressed.

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However, with any distress and intense

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emotion there is the positive impact

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that we gain on the other side as

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we gain healing and release from

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negative emotions in other lifetimes.

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So if you're ready, you might wanna.

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Pause this recording.

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Grab a glass of water or a cup of

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tea, and get settled comfortably,

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and come and join me on another

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journey to one of my past lifetimes.

Katische:

Hello, Katische.

Katische:

Uh, my name

Scott:

is Scott Ohlgren I'm from Florida.

Scott:

Uh, we've never met, but I wanted to

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just give you a thumbs up on the work

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that you're doing with your podcast.

Scott:

Um, I believe that connecting with or

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remembering life beyond this life and

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life before this life is one of the

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true hidden keys to fulfilling what,

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what we basically are as humankind.

Scott:

And I say that because I had a few

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extremely powerful glimpses into

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my own life, beyond and before my

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life when I was in my twenties.

Scott:

And it, um, altered the course of

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my life and it put me into studying

Scott:

plant medicine and diet and ended.

Scott:

I ended up writing a few books on that.

Scott:

Uh, I see that you're from Queensland.

Scott:

I lived north of your, of you in a tiny

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little town called Coolum for about six

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months back in the early eighties when I

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was traveling the world for a few years.

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I absolutely fell in

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love with uh, Queensland.

Scott:

No need to write back or call me back.

Scott:

Just keep doing what you're doing

Scott:

and know that it is impacting people

Scott:

far beyond what you may realize.

Scott:

All the best.

Katische:

Okay, so it is

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time for the background.

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Today's episode before we

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get into the record session.

Katische:

So this past life revelation is

Katische:

two years in the making, I think

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it is, and the origination of why.

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I wanted to actually find out about

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this past life is frustration.

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Now, if you know anything about

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frustration, you know that

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frustration means that you are out

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of alignment with your higher self.

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You are not experiencing life

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that your soul wishes to just

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to experience it in that way.

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So, I've been frustrated for a

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very long time, and even more than

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just frustrated, was when people

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would tell me to be patient and

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things would work themselves out.

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Somebody who's frustrated wants it to

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happen right now, and it, it makes it

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worse when you ask them to be impatient.

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So my frustration to give you

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the 22nd version of it was I was

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an am highly educated person.

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I got my master's degree at 21.

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I got the Dean's Academic Award for

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Academic Excellence, getting a 6.58

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out of a seven for my academic score.

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Um, I got hired into the largest

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management consultancy in the world,

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in the graduate recruitment program.

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And from that moment on,

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I thought my life was set.

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I was planning to do a short stint

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in Australia, then go overseas to

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the uk, then head over to the usa

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and I imagined that I would be some

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kind of a big rig corporate ceo.

Katische:

Life hasn't worked out that way.

Katische:

Life had other plans and mostly my

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plans have involved a lot of resiliency,

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a lot of changes of career, a lot of

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heartbreak and a lot of scratching of my

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head, wondering, what have I done wrong?

Katische:

If you were to view my lifetime, and many

Katische:

of you who listen to the podcasts have

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known me for a long time, you would say,

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well, she's ticked all the check boxes.

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She's done all the studies, and

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every time she identifies a limiting

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belief or a school that she needs,

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she upgrades and she learns more.

Katische:

She's not one to sit back and

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watch TV just for the sake of it.

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So I've studied the mind for

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as long as I can remember.

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I have read everything

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about, um, limiting beliefs.

Katische:

I understand emotions.

Katische:

I've watched every Tony

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Robbins video there.

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I was, I've done eft, I've done hypnosis.

Katische:

I have done so many healing modalities.

Katische:

I have done mindset courses in just

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about everything you could think

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of, but still, things haven't worked

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out the way I thought they would.

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So, In 2021, I think it was.

Katische:

I finally got so frustrated.

Katische:

Yes, it was at the very beginning of 2021.

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I got so frustrated that I actually

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withdrew myself out of everything and

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decided that the cause of anything

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that I haven't hadn't achieved or

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accomplished in my lifetime was

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nothing to do with the present life.

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I'd covered every field that there could

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be about examining my present lifetime.

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I had done so much writing and

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study with limiting beliefs.

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I mean, you can go all the way back to

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back to my first years in university and,

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uh, straight after it when I used to do

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70 times sevens writing with left hands,

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um, with Michael Jimeno Roland, if any

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of you remember him from way back when.

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Like I've done the work for

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a long time, so I decided.

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Bug of this, it's not present life.

Katische:

Let's start investigating the past life.

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I was lucky enough to win a quantum

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healing session with Sandra Biskind

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and I'm hoping to get in contact with

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her so that we can do a special podcast

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episode about the quantum healing

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session and what we, uh, revealed

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because it's directly rebel, relevant

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to this life that we're going to

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reveal today cuz it's the same life.

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So, however, the issues and things

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that we identified with Sandra were

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from the childhood of this particular

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life that we're going into today.

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Whereas what I just revealed this week is

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from the adult section of that lifetime.

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So you can imagine it's quite a big,

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meaty, chunky lifetime in terms of

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limiting beliefs and core wounds.

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So Sandra identified that it, it

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was my core wound of abandonment

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that had been impacting my lifetime.

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Anne was impacting amongst many

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other things, uh, money blocks

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and money limiting beliefs.

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However, as amazing as Sandra Biskind is,

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and I would highly recommend you work with

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her, I really wanted to do the next step,

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which was prove it to myself, prove to

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myself that I actually had the lifetime

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that she saw and understand it further.

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And this is where I started to

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come into blocks where I could

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not access the records by myself.

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And when I tried to do past

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life for aggression myself,

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I could not see anything.

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Anyway, to cut a long story short,

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there'd probably be a couple of

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episodes on this, but, um, the dense

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lifetimes that I have lived, uh, that

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were acquired by my soul to achieve

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certain things actually created.

Katische:

Spirit attachments and other

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situations which were impacting

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upon my present lifetime here

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in 20 20 21, 20 22 and before.

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So once we cleared those, um,

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it was divine timing to have met

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the Ghost Helper, Tina Irwin.

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And if you haven't listened to

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Tina's episode, please go back

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and listen to that after this.

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Then I decided, okay, I want to

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do and try Theca records again.

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So I got in contact with the

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wonderful Cindy Porter and we

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set an intention for the session.

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Now, the session's intention was set.

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After we had a discussion, we, I'd been

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in contact with her for many, many months

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and in the end it boiled down to a very

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frank discussion we had, which is good.

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I like frankness.

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And she said to me, look.

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There is no reason you should be blocked

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from entering the ca records, except by

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the fact that you are blocking yourself.

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Now, here we go.

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This is where I bird up again, as you can

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imagine, cuz if you tell me that I'm doing

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something wrong, that I've caused it,

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my, I'm, I'm gonna put up my fist cuffs.

Katische:

Yeah, I'm gonna get angry

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because I know that I, I haven't.

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But by the time she walked through with

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it, walked me through it and explained

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to me that it possibly wasn't me of this

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lifetime that was creating these blocks.

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It's me who has set in place a form of

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self punishment from other lifetimes.

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So that made sense to me.

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That really resonated with me.

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And what we set the intention for the

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session was to, was several things.

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The most important was to find the first

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lifetime, the earliest memory whereby I

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put in place a form of self punishment.

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That would then turn into self-sabotage in

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other lifetimes and this present lifetime.

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So looking for the root cause

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effect, uh, to also identify vows

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and limiting beliefs that I made as

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a result of this self punishment.

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And for me personally, I wanted to

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verify if it was relevant, some of the

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incarnations that had been identified

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by Sandra bi, Sandra and Daniel

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Biskin, because they'd identified

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four, and I hadn't seen them myself.

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I'd begun to see them in the past

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couple of weeks, but I really wanted

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to, in my own mind, verify them.

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So that's the backstory.

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And I'm just going to tell you

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very quickly what we did find

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before I let you listen yourself.

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So we did find abandonment.

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We did find really self punishment.

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The physical kind, lack of trust.

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And a disconnection from source.

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So pretty intense.

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But you'll hear through the CHE records

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session that we were able to understand

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the purpose of this really dense lifetime

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to gain healing in the CHE records.

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And importantly, to verify also for

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myself, if you listen to the episode with

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Courtney Dylan, who my primary spirit

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guide is for the moment, for this lifetime

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right now in 2022, and who my, um, art

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Angel is because I had ideas, but I

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hadn't had anyone else verify it with me.

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So sometimes you, you feel like

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you just need somebody there so you

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don't feel like you're making it up.

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So we did that as well.

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Before we get into the recording

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session, I just wanna let you know that

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there will be a little bit of noise

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interference from birds in the background.

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I've done my best to minimize this,

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but once you get through the recording,

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it'll go into the background.

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Anyway, I have edited the first part

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so that we are pretty close to just

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entering into being at the footsteps

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of the doors of the KA records.

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Now, the important thing for you to

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note is prior to this session, every

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time I tried to attempt to get into the

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ca records, the doors wouldn't open.

Katische:

Okay.

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Uh, the most memorable time was

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when I was trying to see if I should

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train for the ca records with, um,

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a spiritual mentor, Joanna Hunter.

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And the doors not only slam and

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shut, they were the doors like that

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of a castle, but the doors molded

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over and went all mossy as if, uh,

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something out of a forest and then

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whizzing over my shoulder came arrows.

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They went into the door and I knew.

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Step away.

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Girlfriend, you're not allowed in.

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Turns out it was me, a former

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incarnation of myself doing that, but

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luckily for all of us, and you know

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that it's a happy ending because we're

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in able to get into Theca records.

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Otherwise, you wouldn't be hearing

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the rest of this podcast episode.

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I was able to resolve that through

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a lot of hard work on my behalf with

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understanding the various roles we

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play overall incarnations, doing a

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lot of deep searching, understanding

Katische:

light and dark understanding

Katische:

spirits, understanding really the

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truth of what you attract in life.

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And then practicing, oh my God,

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practicing so much past life regression.

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Hours and hours and hours of practicing

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by myself so that I was ready to work with

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a professional to go into Theca records.

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I was also willing for the session to

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reveal things that were different to what

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the intention of the session was, if that

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was in the highest interest of my soul.

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So I set the intention with Cindy

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and then detached so that my soul and

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my highest self and my spirit guides

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would direct us to the lives that

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were of the most relevance and most

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important to me in the here and the now.

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Then as you'll hear, I had to give myself

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permission to actually open the records,

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so I'll be quiet now and I'll let you

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experience with me the entire KA record

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sessions just for one of the lives.

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We had two revealed, I'll be

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honest with you, but I'm not gonna

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share the second one right now.

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It's enough to share the first

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dense lifetime for today.

Katische:

So here we go.

Cindy:

So we'll close

Cindy:

our eyes and let's going.

Cindy:

So let's

Cindy:

nice steep working and

Cindy:

hold it and

Cindy:

breathe out and again

Cindy:

and out.

Cindy:

So breathing in, beautiful white, golden

Cindy:

light breathing, any stagnant, unused.

Cindy:

As you're breathing in beautiful

Cindy:

white, golden light,

Cindy:

feeling your body

Cindy:

letting go, all these dresses and

Cindy:

strains of your day letting go,

Cindy:

how many of the attached

Cindy:

spirits surrounding you?

Cindy:

You can imagine roots

Cindy:

growing out of the bottom of your

Cindy:

feet

Cindy:

starting to grow down

Cindy:

deep.

Cindy:

Deep down into Mother Earth, spreading out

Cindy:

far and wide down deep in Mother Earth.

Cindy:

Roots are

Cindy:

growing

Cindy:

down, down until they get to

Cindy:

the center of Mother Earth.

Cindy:

Wrapping around the

Cindy:

beautiful crystal center.

Cindy:

As they wrap around the center, you

Cindy:

start to feel amazing, beautiful,

Cindy:

loving energy coming up through the

Cindy:

roots, coming up through the souls

Cindy:

of your feet, up your legs, and

Cindy:

starting to feel your whole body with

Cindy:

beautiful, unconditional love spreading.

Cindy:

Right up through your body, all the

Cindy:

way up through the top of your head.

Cindy:

As it gets to the top of your

Cindy:

head, this beautiful golden

Cindy:

light energy starts to spread out and

Cindy:

around you, and it's creating

Cindy:

a beautiful, golden bubble

Cindy:

of golden white light

Cindy:

energy all around you.

Cindy:

You and you alone are safe in this bubble.

Cindy:

There is only you.

Cindy:

There are no attached spirits,

Cindy:

no other entities, just you.

Cindy:

You are safe and protected.

Cindy:

As you breathe in

Cindy:

gold

Cindy:

and white light, the bubble expands

Cindy:

getting ever larger and larger around you,

Cindy:

and ever lighter and brighter around you.

Cindy:

As we breathe in more gold and white

Cindy:

energy, you start to lift off from

Cindy:

Mother Earth and slowly going higher

Cindy:

and higher, up towards farther sky,

Cindy:

breathing in the

Cindy:

beautiful, golden white light

Cindy:

in your beautiful, safe bubble,

Cindy:

feeling lighter and brighter,

Cindy:

lighter and brighter, and brighter.

Cindy:

And lighter and brighter as

Cindy:

we go up through farther sky

Cindy:

breathing in the golden white light.

Cindy:

We are light

Cindy:

gently on the big stone

Cindy:

steps of the records hall

Cindy:

in front of you at two giant

Cindy:

doors.

Cindy:

Can you see them?

Katische:

Yes.

Katische:

Sorry to talk.

Katische:

It's.

Cindy:

The door handles and put your hands

Cindy:

on the doors and gently push them open

Cindy:

and lemme know when you've done that.

Katische:

Yep, they're done.

Katische:

They're opened.

Katische:

As soon as you said that they were there.

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They flu open

Cindy:

just inside the doors

Cindy:

you should be able to see your

Cindy:

spirit guide waiting there.

Cindy:

Can you see them?

Katische:

Well just see wings.

Katische:

Beautiful.

Cindy:

I have asked all the

Cindy:

angels to come in and help us

Cindy:

today.

Cindy:

I'll protect you.

Katische:

No, I see Jeshua's face now.

Katische:

Excellent.

Cindy:

They're going lead us

Cindy:

to your Akashic records room.

Cindy:

So I'd like you to

Cindy:

follow them along the corridors

Cindy:

until you, your room and let

Cindy:

me know you arrive there.

Cindy:

I'll gently called you along the way.

Katische:

Okay.

Katische:

I think I'm here.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

Have you stepped into the room?

Katische:

I just see the doorway.

Katische:

Feels like it's been a long walk.

Cindy:

Yep.

Cindy:

Sometimes it is.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

Put your hand on the

Cindy:

door, open it and step in

Cindy:

in front of you.

Cindy:

There should be a desk and a chair.

Cindy:

Let's see it.

Cindy:

Can I see that?

Katische:

Um,

Katische:

see like shelves to the left

Katische:

and

Katische:

then it's not very attractive room.

Katische:

Like a, a desk up against a concrete wall.

Cindy:

Yep.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

Let's go sit down at the.

Cindy:

Let know when you're sitting at the desk.

Cindy:

Mm-hmm.

Cindy:

? Katische: Yes.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

So now we are gonna ask your spirit

Cindy:

guide to please bring us a record

Cindy:

that shows where

Cindy:

you first felt

Cindy:

the need to punish yourself for something

Cindy:

that you have done.

Cindy:

Your spirit guide is gonna go off

Cindy:

and grab that record book for us

Cindy:

and bring it back to the desk.

Cindy:

Please let me know when the book

Cindy:

has arrived in front of you.

Cindy:

They may need to think about

Cindy:

which is the most appropriate.

Cindy:

I'm sensing they're having some discussion

Cindy:

about which record to show you.

Cindy:

Yeah.

Cindy:

I feel like the energy of a book

Cindy:

wanting to fly off the shelf, but

Cindy:

it's not appearing in front of me yet.

Cindy:

Yeah.

Cindy:

It's like it keeps being sent back

Cindy:

sometimes.

Cindy:

We are not

Cindy:

actually ready

Cindy:

to learn what we're asking,

Cindy:

so I'm going to get you to

Cindy:

please give yourself permiss.

Cindy:

To read the record that's required to

Cindy:

help you with this self-punishment issue.

Cindy:

So if you just, I'll

Cindy:

give myself counseling.

Katische:

I give myself permission

Katische:

to read this record, to read

Katische:

this

Katische:

record and reveal where my self punishment

Katische:

comes from, reveal where my

Katische:

self punishment comes from.

Katische:

I see.

Katische:

Like a Gold Bound Triple Decker book.

Katische:

Yep.

Katische:

So it's like a very big record.

Katische:

Yeah.

Katische:

It, you know, like,

Katische:

In like the Tudor times, they had

Katische:

that elaborate writing and pictorial

Katische:

stuff, and there's like a gold

Katische:

bound book with gold on the edges.

Cindy:

Yep.

Cindy:

That's the kind of thing that

Cindy:

I see that that is the same

Cindy:

book that I am seeing, so that's okay.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

What I want you to do is put your hand on

Cindy:

the book and tell me what

Cindy:

sensation you get, please.

Katische:

Nervous.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

Please reassure yourself

Cindy:

that you are protected.

Cindy:

You are surrounded by angels.

Cindy:

There is nothing to fear

Cindy:

here.

Cindy:

You are safe, you are in

Cindy:

control, and you are protected.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

Do you still feel nervous?

Katische:

Of I'm

Katische:

just feeling, uh, crying.

Katische:

I don't why.

Cindy:

That's okay.

Cindy:

Let it out.

Cindy:

Emotions to through us.

Cindy:

Let it out.

Cindy:

You're safe and you are protected.

Cindy:

Okay.

Katische:

I like a elaborate table

Katische:

of contents or something like that.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

What I'm gonna

Cindy:

do is I'm gonna

Cindy:

ask your spirit guide, so please open

Cindy:

the book.

Cindy:

To the page.

Cindy:

That is how best serve you

Cindy:

in understanding this record.

Cindy:

So your guide will book to a certain

Cindy:

me, you see the page each open.

Katische:

It's, it's open.

Katische:

But before it opened, I got the,

Katische:

I don't, I don't see any writing

Katische:

on it, but what I saw was, uh,

Katische:

a figure come out of the pages.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

Does that make sense?

Cindy:

Like a, a character?

Cindy:

Yeah.

Cindy:

I, I never see writing on my pages.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

So, That's perfectly normal.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

What we're going to do, if you're

Cindy:

feeling comfortable enough, is

Cindy:

hand

Cindy:

on the open pages

Cindy:

and if you still feel okay.

Cindy:

Do you feel okay with your

Cindy:

hand on the open pages?

Katische:

Um, yeah.

Katische:

I, I just sense myself as a, a

Katische:

tall, thin man in monks robes.

Katische:

Excellent.

Katische:

Okay.

Cindy:

What we're gonna do is

Cindy:

we're gonna actually step right

Cindy:

through

Cindy:

into that lifetime, ok?

Cindy:

So we're gonna go through,

Cindy:

into that lifetime, remembering

Cindy:

that you are in control.

Cindy:

You are completely safe and you are

Cindy:

protected.

Cindy:

So as we step through,

Cindy:

what I want you to do is firstly look down

Cindy:

at your feet and tell me what you see.

Katische:

Like these brown

Katische:

mocca in these slippery things.

Cindy:

Ok.

Cindy:

, what

Cindy:

about the, are you

Cindy:

standing on a field, a road

Cindy:

to start to look from your feet?

Katische:

And it's like inside in a

Katische:

chamber and it's not like tiles, but

Katische:

it's like a material that was used

Katische:

from a long time ago to create a a

Katische:

surface for an indoor area for a floor.

Katische:

So it's stone and cold, but it's

Katische:

been shaped to be the equivalent of

Katische:

a modern floor, but in old times.

Katische:

Does that make sense?

Katische:

So it's not dirt.

Cindy:

Yep.

Cindy:

Absolutely.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

So start to look up and look

Cindy:

around and describe what else

Cindy:

you can see from where you are.

Katische:

It's like, do you know if

Katische:

you go into Westminster Cathedral in

Katische:

Hm.

Katische:

It's like an Abbey.

Cindy:

Yep.

Katische:

It's like when you go

Katische:

downstairs in Westminster Abbey.

Cindy:

Yep.

Cindy:

Breathing in.

Cindy:

Yeah, breathing in.

Katische:

You know, how they have all the

Katische:

tombs and of the sacred relics and the out

Katische:

of bound areas for the public more down

Katische:

type area.

Katische:

Yeah.

Katische:

It's like being down in there.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

Can you, of why you're there

Cindy:

if you just feel into that,

Katische:

um, the words that came to

Katische:

my mind that don't match the pictures,

Katische:

but are the feeling are time out,

Katische:

bad, punished, forbidden knowledge.

Cindy:

Okay.

Katische:

Like, I read a

Katische:

book I wasn't supposed to.

Cindy:

Yep.

Katische:

Questioning authority.

Katische:

So it's like I'm in a, a

Katische:

room bereft of anything else.

Cindy:

Yep.

Cindy:

So is it, uh, do you feel like you've been

Cindy:

put in, you want of a, a cell like a day?

Katische:

No, it doesn't feel like

Katische:

I'm, you're not like, lock up.

Katische:

I'm not punished like

Katische:

locking the keys prison.

Katische:

It's like, go think about yourself, son.

Katische:

Okay.

Katische:

You know, like when you get scolded by

Katische:

your father, you've disappointed me.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

So thinking

Cindy:

about that.

Cindy:

Oh, are you okay?

Katische:

It was punishment,

Katische:

but it was before.

Katische:

So if I take off my robe, I have lashings.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

And if, in other

Cindy:

words,

Katische:

if you words

Katische:

asshole come to mind,

Cindy:

about yourself or

Cindy:

about who did that to you?

Katische:

About he who did that?

Katische:

Yeah, I know who it is.

Cindy:

Now what I want you to do

Cindy:

is, what we wanna do is we wanna

Cindy:

try and go back for the punishment.

Cindy:

And see what it was exactly that

Cindy:

you did to receive this punishment.

Cindy:

Are you able to see?

Katische:

No, but I, I'm being shown,

Katische:

I don't know, this is avoidance, but

Katische:

I'm, I'm being shown, you know, like

Katische:

the scene from the Da Vinci code where

Katische:

there's that awful evil mon who wears

Katische:

that stupid belt around his thigh

Katische:

where he gets it tighter and tighter

Katische:

so it bleeds and then he self flags.

Katische:

I'm being shown, like I was

Katische:

expected to do that and I didn't

Katische:

want to, so they did it for me.

Cindy:

Do you?

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

All right, so can you see at all,

Cindy:

is this

Cindy:

actually a punishment or

Cindy:

is self punishment part of what you've

Cindy:

been educated in this lifetime and

Cindy:

expected to do as part of your religious

Cindy:

beliefs of the lifetime?

Katische:

I've been taught to do it.

Cindy:

And your questioning its validity?

Katische:

They tell me that it casts

Katische:

out evil spirits, but I think that I'm

Katische:

not evil, that I am pure, but they say

Katische:

that because I was abandoned at birth

Katische:

as an orphan, that I must be evil.

Cindy:

Okay.

Katische:

Because nobody

Katische:

would abandon their child.

Cindy:

Yep.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

All right.

Katische:

Nasty.

Katische:

Okay.

Cindy:

Do you feel very alone?

Katische:

Yes.

Katische:

I feel alone even though

Katische:

I am in the house of God.

Cindy:

All right.

Cindy:

I think that you need to tell

Cindy:

yourself that you are not.

Cindy:

You tell your past myself.

Cindy:

You're not alone, . You

Cindy:

are there with them always.

Cindy:

The angels are there with them.

Cindy:

Always

Cindy:

and relay that to them.

Cindy:

That's piece in that

Cindy:

knowing that theirs are

Cindy:

correct, they're not evil.

Cindy:

You were loved.

Cindy:

They're not alone.

Cindy:

Just despite what happens,

Cindy:

they're truly loved.

Cindy:

Now

Cindy:

is that easing?

Katische:

I always look to the light

Katische:

that comes in through the stained

Katische:

glass windows, and I know it anyway,

Katische:

but it's hard to be surrounded

Katische:

by people who are supposed to be

Cindy:

absolutely

Katische:

pure but acting in a way

Katische:

that is not congruent with my beliefs.

Cindy:

Yes.

Katische:

Not the same as I believe

Katische:

the teachings are meant to be.

Cindy:

Spiritual wounds run deep.

Cindy:

So I want you to give

Cindy:

it as much comfort as you

Cindy:

can to your past life self,

Cindy:

and spend a few minutes

Cindy:

giving him comfort.

Cindy:

And then I'm going to get

Cindy:

you to tell your goodbyes,

Cindy:

remembering that you are

Cindy:

always, you're protected.

Cindy:

Always

Cindy:

loved,

Cindy:

always.

Katische:

Jeshua Reminds me that

Katische:

he said forgive them father,

Katische:

for they know not what they do.

Cindy:

Perfect words.

Cindy:

Wow.

Katische:

He shows me his hands.

Katische:

And holds them up to me.

Katische:

Its

Katische:

transfer the healing so that I can hear my

Katische:

own wounds

Katische:

by holding

Katische:

my hands to them

Katische:

to activate

Katische:

the heat transfer for myself.

Katische:

yeah,

Katische:

they heel immediately.

Katische:

And he's ready to

Katische:

walk out of the room.

Cindy:

Okay.

Katische:

Meaning Jeshua,

Cindy:

let's,

Cindy:

okay, so now we're gonna step back.

Cindy:

Let me know when you get here.

Cindy:

Back at the desk.

Katische:

You know I didn't bring a tissue

Katische:

. Cindy: Yep.

Katische:

Okay.

Katische:

So from there what we going do

Katische:

is I'm going to get our spirit

Katische:

guides to take this record with us

Katische:

Down to the coldron of the violet flame.

Katische:

We're going to heal this

Katische:

record permanently for you.

Katische:

So

Katische:

just

Katische:

get up

Katische:

and follow your spirit guide.

Katische:

I know you outta the room and

Katische:

down to the Violet Flame Cauldron.

Katische:

Yep.

Katische:

Okay.

Katische:

See it now.

Cindy:

So you can see the

Cindy:

beautiful big cauldron and a

Cindy:

gorgeous violet flame

Cindy:

and we the, and ourselves

Cindy:

with the beautiful

Cindy:

healing of the violet flame.

Cindy:

You can see it washing over you.

Cindy:

Gorgeous violet light feeling, deepest

Cindy:

parts, your

Cindy:

easing, your

Cindy:

taking away, your need to punish yourself.

Katische:

Mm-hmm.

Katische:

I've got very strong facial features.

Katische:

You know?

Cindy:

Yep.

Katische:

Like Kylo Ren in Star Wars.

Katische:

Awesome.

Katische:

Ugly but beautiful at the same time.

Cindy:

Feel that violent

Cindy:

flame wash right over you,

Cindy:

and you should start feeling

Cindy:

peaceful and calm, and you stay here

Cindy:

and bathe in this healing light.

Cindy:

How are you starting to feel?

Cindy:

Nows better.

Cindy:

Excellent.

Cindy:

I'll stay here for a few more minutes

Cindy:

over you,

Cindy:

and when you're feeling

Cindy:

completely relaxed again,

Cindy:

you'll say goodbyes to our spirit

Cindy:

guides, and make our way back down

Cindy:

the corridors and out the front doors.

Cindy:

Take your time.

Cindy:

Hello.

Cindy:

Let me know when you're

Cindy:

out the front doors.

Katische:

I have great resistance.

Cindy:

Okay.

Cindy:

Then what we're gonna do instead is

Cindy:

we are gonna go back to your records

Cindy:

room and sit back down at the table

Cindy:

and let me know when you get back there.

Cindy:

Do you feel

Cindy:

any resistance to going back there?

Katische:

No.

Katische:

I feel like

Katische:

just ludicrous, but I feel like

Katische:

there's like, it's not possible, but

Katische:

I feel like there's an angel hovering

Katische:

above me with a cloud and a shower.

Katische:

You're being cleansed.

Cindy:

And still giving

Cindy:

you healing to enjoy it.

Cindy:

Take it all in.

Katische:

Giving me a towel

Katische:

to dry down like a fluffy,

Katische:

ridiculous white hotel tower.

Cindy:

love that.

Katische:

Told you it was gonna

Katische:

be a little rough, didn't I?

Katische:

And I can tell you took me several

Katische:

days to get over, get through that

Katische:

I was relieved that I could confirm.

Katische:

The lifetime that was

Katische:

revealed with Sandra.

Katische:

And I was interested that this was a

Katische:

different proportion of the lifetime.

Katische:

And so what has taught me is

Katische:

that we learn and have revealed

Katische:

elements from each lifetime as we

Katische:

are ready to have them revealed.

Katische:

And that we don't have it all

Katische:

revealed just at once because we can

Katische:

only deal with so much at a time.

Katische:

So just because you've discovered a

Katische:

past lifetime doesn't mean that it's

Katische:

necessarily finished with the learnings.

Katische:

You can revisit it if it's

Katische:

necessarily needed for your soul.

Katische:

So one of the things that I wanted to

Katische:

point out with that past life reveal

Katische:

was I wanted to talk about a couple

Katische:

of, uh, things that you might have

Katische:

found disturbing in that episode.

Katische:

Monks and self punish.

Katische:

Now, I'm not making this up.

Katische:

This I've done, uh, historical

Katische:

research, um, about this is

Katische:

that the Catholic church did,

Katische:

I'm not sure if recommend is the

Katische:

right word, but it is well known in

Katische:

history that the Catholic church did

Katische:

have punishment, four monks that was

Katische:

widespread in the medieval times, and

Katische:

it was to do with self punishment.

Katische:

Okay?

Katische:

So self punishment is the act of

Katische:

inflicting physical or psychological harm

Katische:

on yourself for your perceived misdeeds.

Katische:

Now, the Catholic Church,

Katische:

basically, you can look at Opus

Katische:

day's websites, even today.

Katische:

Today, the Opus Day, which is not the

Katische:

lifetime that I was in, but the Opus Day

Katische:

has a statement about self punishment.

Katische:

But basically the church saw

Katische:

that self punishment was a way

Katische:

of joining oneself to Jesus.

Katische:

Self punishment helps resist your

Katische:

natural drive to personal comfort

Katische:

because it prevents us from loving God

Katische:

and serving others for the love of God.

Katische:

So in the church's beliefs, at that

Katische:

time, comfort was seen as evil.

Katische:

Okay?

Katische:

Because it took you away from God

Katische:

and from Jesus and from serving.

Katische:

So hence renunciation.

Katische:

A lot of people who have spiritual

Katische:

lifetimes, specific spiritual

Katische:

lifetimes, like as a nun or monk,

Katische:

will have pronunciation issues.

Katische:

One, um, other thing that I wanted

Katische:

to let you know about was that as you

Katische:

could hear, And if you're seeing this

Katische:

on YouTube, you'll have been able to see

Katische:

this whole session, is that Yeshu was

Katische:

there to guide me through this reveal.

Katische:

And the thing that I learned from the

Katische:

themes of abandonment in that past

Katische:

life is that I have never been alone.

Katische:

That I have always been surrounded by

Katische:

love because I am connected to source.

Katische:

I am from source just as you are.

Katische:

And I also learn importantly, the

Katische:

thing that came to me when I left

Katische:

the session with Sydney, sorry, Sid.

Katische:

Cindy, I actually know

Katische:

somebody called Sydney.

Katische:

Was that.

Katische:

In no way, shape or form did Jesus

Katische:

ever want human beings to self punish

Katische:

themselves, to whip themselves like he was

Katische:

whipped before he was put on the cross.

Katische:

That is not the point that has

Katische:

been misconstrued historically.

Katische:

Okay?

Katische:

Self punishment is not

Katische:

Jesus's lesson to you.

Katische:

It's not his legacy.

Katische:

His legacy is compassion and love.

Katische:

Enough said about that.

Katische:

The scene that I had at the time

Katische:

being at Westminster Abby, the

Katische:

time, I thought maybe it was just

Katische:

an illustration of another Abby,

Katische:

because when I have done past life

Katische:

regressions where I actually could

Katische:

see things, I did a few of Brian, Dr.

Katische:

Brian Vices, or V however you wanna

Katische:

say, it's, um, past life regressions.

Katische:

And I always saw the arches, the long, um,

Katische:

Pathways, the kind of the cobbled stones,

Katische:

and then a green section in the middle in

Katische:

between the archways.

Katische:

So they called the cloisters.

Katische:

And originally I had discounted my

Katische:

own visions because I thought I was

Katische:

imagining something out of Harry Potter.

Katische:

You know how they have the courtyard

Katische:

and they go through all those archways?

Katische:

So I learned that that's not true.

Katische:

I learned that Westminster

Katische:

Abbey is the right place.

Katische:

And if you watch the YouTube version

Katische:

of this podcast, I'm going to upload

Katische:

two points or two photographs that

Katische:

I found, which actually provided

Katische:

me with an emotional reaction, a

Katische:

visceral emotional reaction today.

Katische:

So one was off the chapter house.

Katische:

The chapter house is in an octagonal room.

Katische:

Which is where the monks and

Katische:

the um, the head of the aey met.

Katische:

And in this octagonal room, this is where

Katische:

the lessons of the week were delivered

Katische:

and where punishment was delivered.

Katische:

So you would meet there for a

Katische:

meeting and then you were punished.

Katische:

Okay.

Katische:

The interesting thing about that

Katische:

is when I saw the picture of the

Katische:

octagonal room, cuz I went and I had

Katische:

a look back at Westminster Abbey.

Katische:

I have been to Westminster Abbey and I

Katische:

have been down to the areas where I am

Katische:

talking about, I went in 1995 I think it

Katische:

was, and I kind of felt very spooked when

Katische:

I went to West Westminster, Abby, even

Katische:

getting tongue tied thinking about it.

Katische:

Um, I really needed to know what

Katische:

was downstairs and I did, um,

Katische:

I was very drawn down there.

Katische:

I also, um, when Kate and Wills were

Katische:

married 10 years ago, I watched the

Katische:

whole wedding and I was uncontrollably

Katische:

crying during that wedding.

Katische:

I am a Royals fan, so part

Katische:

of that was being happy Joy.

Katische:

Part of it was the contrast.

Katische:

It was literally just as I was making

Katische:

a decision to leave my marriage.

Katische:

Uh, but I think there was also some other

Katische:

emotional side effects that came through.

Katische:

The second part to that was that

Katische:

when I then looked for what I have

Katische:

seen in my eyes as that room where I

Katische:

was, where I was told to go sun, to

Katische:

reflect on my sins and my misdeeds.

Katische:

I found the room, which is called the P

Katische:

y X, the picks chamber, pikes chamber.

Katische:

And it's one of the only remaining

Katische:

rooms in Westminster Abbey, which is

Katische:

from the original 11th century Abbey.

Katische:

And when you look at the drawings,

Katische:

the drawings match exactly.

Katische:

So if you find a black and

Katische:

white drawing it, ma, which is

Katische:

exactly what I saw in my mind.

Katische:

And when I saw the photograph

Katische:

of it, um, I got a sharp pain

Katische:

in my heart and my heart started

Katische:

pounding and I got really nauseous.

Katische:

So when I saw the picture of the chapter

Katische:

house, the room where the punishment was

Katische:

delivered, I got dizzy And um, I continued

Katische:

on to find the, the, the chamber where I

Katische:

was then given time to reflect on my sins.

Katische:

And that's where I, um,

Katische:

got the heart sensation.

Katische:

So I believe I found

Katische:

the right, right place.

Katische:

And if you go and then you, uh, studios

Katische:

like me and you go and search up for

Katische:

the original Benedictine monk, um,

Katische:

documentations and the research the

Katische:

scholars have, you'll see that monks were,

Katische:

it says on the Westminster Abbey website,

Katische:

monks were punished in the octagonal room.

Katische:

Now the interesting part about that

Katische:

is that I can't be in octagonal rooms,

Katische:

and I'll put a picture for you here of,

Katische:

I used to be, um, the

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marketing person, not.

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Obnoxious to have called

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myself the marketing manager.

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But I had a dual role once upon a

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time as the marketing person for Casa

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Grain Wines in Port Macquarie and

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Hun Hill Wines in the Hunter Valley.

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They were owned by the same person,

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and when we acquired One Broke Road,

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which is now the, the site of the

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Salor and Vineyards, originally it

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was a small church and it moved.

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I just cut the sequence of that too.

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Um, it moved from the small church into

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the huge monro of a Salor one broke road.

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I went in there with James Kirby, who's

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the, who was then the owner of Hungerford

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Hill Wines, and I walked into the cellar

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door and I got nauseous immediately.

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I got dizzy immediately and

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I had to leave that room.

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I was like, I cannot be in this room.

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I got immediately sick.

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So think what you write.

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But I think there is also a correlation

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between octagonal rooms and a visceral

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emotional reaction in this lifetime.

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So what have I done for

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myself since this discovery?

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Well, I have this beautiful little book

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that my friend gave me, and I have been

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journaling for days about the insights

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from the Kas record sessions, and I

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have reframed the limiting beliefs.

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It's always important to

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do this with your hand.

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And so I have written things like

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I am always in the company of God.

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Yes, sure.

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And my arch angels and love.

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I am never separated from God.

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I am of God.

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There is nothing that I need to

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do to join myself with Jesus.

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Jesus is of source, as am I.

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We are always connect.

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I love and serve God and others in every

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moment, just by existing personal comfort,

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allows me to take care of myself and

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gives others permission to do so as well.

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And there's some other ones there that

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I'm going to lead for the episode when we

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cover it with Sandra Biskin, which relate

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specifically to children, my role with

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children in lifetime, and then vows of

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poverty, renunciation and money blocks.

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So thanks for joining me on

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this wild journey into my past.

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If there's any chance that any of this

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resonated with you and you think that

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you have been harming yourself through

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self-sabotage, then do let me know.

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Go to kish.com and book in for

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an introductory session and let's

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uncover your story because you

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deserve to be free of vows and

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limiting beliefs from past lifetimes.

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It's time for your soul

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to move forward now.