#268: Faith & Triumph Over Childhood Trauma & Medical Mysteries: An Inspirational Journey

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0:00:33 - (Kevin Lowe): Did you have the cards stacked against you? David sure did. Matter of fact, he went through childhood with so many medical issues, yet nobody would listen to him. He was just a kid. Everybody just kept blowing him off until, of course, there came a time when he became an adult and he could take control. Even through all the hard times, through his childhood into his adult years, David kept his faith, his faith in something better, his faith in something more, a faith in his creator.

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0:01:45 - (Kevin Lowe): To remind you that, you know what? I can do it, too. My friend, I welcome you to episode 268. What's up, my friend? And welcome to Grit, grace, and inspiration. I am your host, Kevin Lowe. 20 years ago, I awoke from a life saving surgery, only to find that I was left completely blind. And since that day, I've learned a lot about life, a lot about living, and a lot about myself. And here on this podcast, I want to share those insights with you.

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0:03:47 - (David Pasqualone): So my parents were never married and then both families didn't like each other and both parents had issues they didn't deal with. So my parents not only weren't married, but they weren't together. So I was raised by my mom, a single mom, and she moved in with my grandma. And my grandma, when we moved in from birth, she had like cancer. So I knew her for the first four and a half years. She was an amazing woman but she was always sick and struggling and then on the other side.

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0:04:46 - (David Pasqualone): So then when I was, we were really poor, like very poor. I'm american poor, but still poor. And when it rained stuff, water would come in the house and the roof was like no joke, like 6ft high maybe it was just an old house built. People came over from Italy, my family, and they built it and they built out of scrap wood and they just built room to room to, you know, I'm thankful for a home, I'm thankful for a shelter, but it just wasn't, again, ideal. So when I was a kid, I was always getting sick and they didn't really know why and they just assumed nothing was wrong and they thought, I think basically sometimes how your parents, they use you for attention.

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0:06:05 - (David Pasqualone): It was just really bizarre. And so everybody was telling me I was depressed and all this stuff. When I was 15, I just stopped going to the doctor because I was so sick of them telling me nothing was wrong and just prescribe me antibiotics. And then from 15 to 18, I just kept getting sicker and sicker and sicker. And then my senior year, I turned 18. Now I can actually have some say in what's going on.

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0:06:59 - (David Pasqualone): So when I was 18, I was wrestling, and I love wrestling, but I could literally go to practice and feel like trash. But other people would tell me I was, like, Strong. I was like, what? I thought they were making fun of me. And then I go run, like, 6 miles, but then I'd go to bench press, and I couldn't even lift 100 pounds. It would just fluctuate. Like, one day I could bench 225, no problem. The next day, I couldn't bench 100 pounds, and I was sleeping all day in class, but I couldn't sleep, like, straight through the night.

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0:07:57 - (David Pasqualone): It was the first vacation we ever took. Second vacation we ever took in 18 years went to Orlando, and it was a trip I didn't even really want to go on, but it was like, okay, it's a vacation. Going to Disney world might as well, right? And when we went, you know how, like, you go on a flight in your ear blocks? Yes. My ear blocked, and it stayed. Blocked the entire trip. And then we flew back and it stayed. And at this point, I was interviewing. I don't know what you call it, but I was talking to the army, marines, air force, Navy.

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0:08:51 - (David Pasqualone): We don't want you. And he got up and walked away, and I was like, that guy's a giant ahole. I don't want to deal with guys like him anymore. So I'm like, air force is off the table. And then I took my asvab just because I didn't plan on going enlisted, but just in case, I took it, and I scored like a 99 or something, or 98 out of 99. And then I found out they had a mistake on their test, so they were really trying to recruit me.

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0:09:50 - (David Pasqualone): They're like, okay, well, we should get a CAT scan just to be safe, to make sure it's not near. And guess what? We'll give you antibiotics. I'm going to get a big surprise there. Yes. So I go to take this CAT scan, and then I go back home and normal. I've finished school, finished wrestling. I'm sleeping because I'm exhausted, right? I'm sleeping on the couch. My best friend's over sleeping on the other side of the couch. And I get a phone call, like 08:00 at night. My mom's still not home from work, and it's the hospital. And like, hey, we got your CAT scan back.

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0:10:49 - (David Pasqualone): So I tell my best friend, I'm like, guess what? I'm like, you know, I'm always sick. He's like, yeah, it's like I actually have a tumor in my head. And they think it's cancer. And he turned white as a ghost. Because you remember the movie kindergarten cop?

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0:11:04 - (David Pasqualone): Sees me all the time and go, maybe it's a tumor. And then sure enough, it's a tumor, right? So he turned white as a ghost. Like, dude, it's okay. I'm like, you're fine. I'm like, this is great news. He said, number one, I'm not crazy. And number two, if I die, at least all the money problems will be solved for my mom, and I'm going to be in heaven. I don't care. I'm going to be with God forever. I'm happy. So I totally had peace. And I went and I took a nap, and it was great.

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0:11:56 - (David Pasqualone): And then he's like, shaking, literally shake. Because all these doctors know, oh, damn, we're screwed. This kid's been telling us years prior, then he stopped coming, now months. Something's wrong. We didn't take him seriously. This is total malpractice. And he's shaking. He's like, hey, do you mind if we send you to Boston? And remember, I'm so poor that I didn't have insurance or anything. And so when I turned 18, I was on my mom's insurance until 18. But then once I turned 18, I didn't have anything, so they put me on the state insurance.

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0:12:55 - (David Pasqualone): And this dude was world known. He's wrote books. He has. Has any ENT doctor listening now they probably know who Dr. William Montgomery is. He was flying to foreign countries to work on chics and princes and then coming back to work on a poor kid from Milford, Mass. So it was just great how God worked it out. Long story short, he's like, hey, this is what we think you have. We don't know. Death percentage for the surgery is over 50% easy.

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0:13:46 - (David Pasqualone): I said, if things go south in the surgery, just snip, snip, cut something that shouldn't be cut, and just let me go home. And he just went at me and said, I promise. I said, good. We're good to go. Either send me to see Jesus or heal me. So I go into the first surgery. It was brutal. It wasn't like a couple of hours surgery. It was a three day surgery.

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0:14:06 - (David Pasqualone): First day, you go in, they do an embolization, because the tumor was a size of, like, you'll see in the story. It kept growing back. So I think the first one was the size of a baseball with a tail down my throat. And they went in and they planned to break my jaw, deform me, do all these things. And when he was in surgery, so the first day they did embolization they go through your groin, they go up, they fill your. Basically, they fill the tumor and everything they're going to cut with superglue and plastic.

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0:15:04 - (David Pasqualone): So as soon as that was done, they're like, what do you want to eat? I'm like, I want to take a shower. I took a shower and then I ate. And then the third day you have surgery. And I think my surgery was like 16 hours. But when he was in there, God just gave him the idea. So he cut out my palate. Your roof of your mouth, are you in touch with your tongue? Yeah, he just took off the right side of my palate, and he said as soon as they went in, the tumor just rolled out into his hand.

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0:15:37 - (David Pasqualone): It just, like, delivered. So the surgery still took. Like I said, I get confused because you're going to see another surgery. I don't remember if it was 14 hours or 13 hours, but it was a long time. I was in that room. Hundreds of stitches, but they didn't have to break my jaw, deform me. So I wake up and everybody is like, are you okay? Can you see? I'm like, yeah, I'm fine. And after a major surgery like that, usually you get blood transfusions and huge long. They told me I'd be in the hospital for 30 days or more.

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0:16:13 - (Kevin Lowe): Yes.

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0:16:43 - (David Pasqualone): So they discharged me on Saturday. And then I feel so good. This was stupid, but I was, like, mowing the lawn a week later, and that's really retarded, but that's the truth. So I just felt so good. It was years of not being able to breathe, years of not blood flow, so all that fatigue. The tumor was not only it was a benign tumor, they found out, but it was acting malignant. I'm going to show you how.

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0:17:38 - (David Pasqualone): So what would basically happen is the tumor got hot, things expand, couldn't breathe. So looking back, it's almost humorous. I'm going through all the details. I don't know why, but anyways, so I go through, and then I try to go off to college, and then I start feeling run down again, like the same type of rundown three months later. So now we're in August, and I'm feeling just trash. And I go to see the doctor, and he's literally, again, he's overseas working on, I think he was working on a print.

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0:18:40 - (David Pasqualone): And I might be a poor kid, and I thought I was stupid and idiot, and I did not have a high opinion of myself after years of being told you're worthless. But at that point, I was like, if I'm going to die, I'm going to die on my terms. So I looked at him, I said, listen, man, every time you order an MRI, you get a kickback for your Mercedes payment. I said, shut your mouth. Sign the paper and give me it and prove I'm wrong.

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0:19:25 - (David Pasqualone): I. What's that? Hypochondriac. Week later, I get a call and like, hey, this is Dr. Montgomery's office. You got to come in. I'm like, okay. So I get in the car with my mom and my girlfriend, drive the hour to Boston, sitting there talking. And the doctor's there, Dr. Montgomery, he's back. And the doctor who gave me the you're an idiot lecture is standing behind him with his head down, quiet. And Dr. Montgomery goes, Dave, you know your tumor was really rare. He's like, we've only seen a handful in recorded medicine. And when I say a handful, not a handful of the tumor I had, but a handful of the size and magnitude and the aggression.

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0:20:41 - (David Pasqualone): And I'm wrong. And I'm like, listen, man, I forgive you. I understand. It's an exceptional situation. I said, but if you've ever been on this side of the chair, every time you're told nothing's wrong, it makes you feel crazy. And if I had a real problem or if I had a fake problem, it's just going to get worse. I said, you got to do your due diligence and believe people. I said, especially if you have the history of proving there's something really wrong.

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0:21:27 - (David Pasqualone): He's like, I don't care if it's me. If you feel like there's something wrong, you pursue it, and you be your best advocate. He's like, because we're just men, and this is a practice, not a profession. He's like, you tell us what's wrong. You don't let us tell you what's wrong. And that is, like, for the listeners, that's a huge takeaway. If you know something's wrong, fight for yourself. Fight for what's right. Fight for your kids. Fight for whatever you need to fight for, but don't quit till you win or die.

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0:21:58 - (Kevin Lowe): Yeah. And, I mean, I would like to just add to that is. That is an attribute that makes a doctor amazing is a doctor who understands that. That is incredible. Standing there in one room, you have the total opposite of wow. So what happened with this second time?

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0:22:41 - (Kevin Lowe): Okay.

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0:23:06 - (David Pasqualone): Everybody makes mistakes. So we go into the surgery, they're sending, like, counselors to my room, and I'm like, I swear I'm fine. They're like, back then again, in Boston, even the policies I don't agree with. The thing I love about Boston is most people. If you actually interviewed people and took a checklist to see if they're, let's say, democrat, Republican, we'll keep it simple. Right? Okay. Most people in Boston say, I'm a Democrat, but if you looked at the value system, they're going to be a Republican, but they don't even understand what it means.

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0:24:07 - (David Pasqualone): But when I was there, I'm like, listen, I know God. I trusted him as my savior when I was 15. I know that no matter what happens to I'm me going to be with him in eternity. I know that if I live or die, it's his will. I know that no matter what happens, we'll adapt and overcome. Right? So the lady is like, yes, you're fine. She walks out of the room. So then the next day, I have that same surgery. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Monday, embolization.

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0:24:45 - (Kevin Lowe): Oh, gosh.

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0:25:19 - (David Pasqualone): And then he sews me back up. And this time, Kevin, I lost only 25 ccs of blood, which is not even realistic after the embolization. Remember I told you there's a bunch of the first day where they put the plastic and the superglue. They tell you you can have strokes and all sorts of issues and blindness and blah. Blah, blah.

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0:25:38 - (David Pasqualone): I actually woke up from that. And you wake up and you can't move. Like, you can't move, you can't scratch, you can't do anything. And when I woke up, I couldn't see out of my eye, my left eye, and I was like, oh. And I was like, hey, mom, can you get the nurse? And I'm trying to stay cool because I knew my mom would flip out more than me. And I just had no vision in my eye. And I was like, God, I can't tell you what I prayed, I'm not going to lie.

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0:26:35 - (David Pasqualone): So then I get up, same thing. I want to take a shower, then I ate, then I go into surgery, and then I wake up and there's a giant sign. And I mean, a giant sign. Like, remember when printers had the paper where it was on a ream and you had to tear off the little circles? Okay. The nurses and my family and friends made this sign that went like. It must have went 15, 20ft across the wall of the hospital. It said the luckiest boy in Boston. And then they all signed it.

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0:27:16 - (Kevin Lowe): Wow.

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0:27:38 - (David Pasqualone): But at this point, I'm 19, I wake up, says the luckiest boy. No, I'm 18, says the luckiest boy in Boston. And I'm back. So now I'm, like, going, I'm like, okay, well, I don't want to go back to college because I just had two major surgeries in a row. And my face is like, I got a hole in my palate, hole in my cheekbone. Wrestling is off the table because if I got hit, I could have real bad issue. I didn't have the facial, just stability, the structure.

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0:28:29 - (David Pasqualone): It's a hormonal tumor. And your body, because it was there so long, they said, it's usually a small p sized tumor in your nose that causes nosebleeds. No big deal. They said yours was there so long because the doctors didn't listen to you, that it grew out of control and it's just become part of your body. There's like, we need to do radiation or chemo. And I'm like. And now I'm thinking maybe I should be considering other paths here, right?

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0:29:10 - (Kevin Lowe): Yeah.

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0:29:26 - (Kevin Lowe): Yeah.

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0:29:57 - (David Pasqualone): Am I giving too much detail? I feel like I'm just taking a long time.

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0:30:05 - (David Pasqualone): Okay. Hopefully I'm not boring the listeners, because this all comes down to, honestly, God is good. He loves you, and he's going to get you through it.

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0:30:19 - (David Pasqualone): Okay. So anyway, so I have the radiation, and that's, first off, I'm claustrophobic. So every time I took an MRI, it just got more and more intensified. And now if you've ever had radiation on your head, they strap you to a chair. This is not a joke. They put a straw in your mouth, and then they pull, like, a fiberglass mesh over your face. So, you know, like in Star wars, return of the Jedi, Han solo stuck in the stuff.

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0:30:44 - (David Pasqualone): They basically pull a mesh over your face and mold it to your face, and then they proceed to plaster you, and the whole process takes almost an hour. So they have me strapped to a chair, breathing through a straw. And remember, I can't breathe through my nose because I have a tumor in my head. So any kind of drainage or drip, I mean, I'm like, seriously, I could have real issues in that chair. So I'm claustrophobic. The whole thing was just terrifying. And then every day, twice a day, I had to go to Boston to get zapped for.

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0:32:01 - (David Pasqualone): And at first, this sounded ridiculous, but I'm like, what do I have to lose, right? And then I asked the guy, I said right up front, I said, listen, by what power do you do this? I said, I don't understand electricity, but I use electricity every day, I don't understand how an engine works fully, but I use a car every day. I said, by what power do you do this? God or Satan? He's like, no God. I believe in God. I'm a Christian. I've trust him as my savior.

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0:32:44 - (David Pasqualone): Nothing was really happening afterwards. And, like, talking about doing more or putting me on chemo. So then I see this guy and I go on all these herbs, and again, being poor, the alternative path is not cheap, usually, right? It's like, if you buy vegetables, it costs more than buying a box of Mac and cheese. But the Mac and cheese is going to kill you. The vegetables are going to cure you. I'm juicing now. Every day, I'm taking handfuls of medicine. Like, not medicine, herbs. I'm taking stuff that I remember at one point back then, I was taking this liquid that cost more an ounce than gold. And it was, wow.

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0:33:52 - (David Pasqualone): So this is like, not only a known fact, but it's how they diagnose a tumor. Right? But no doctors typically tell you, hey, by the way, cut out all dairy and sugar, because that feeds the tumor. Well, what happens if you starve it? It goes away. So at that point, I went through two major surgeries, radiation, and I was dying. Well, I got on this holistic diet and starting getting better and better and better and better and better.

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0:34:51 - (Kevin Lowe): That's incredible.

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0:34:54 - (Kevin Lowe): Incredible. So you started this whole journey when you found out about tumor when you were 18, correct?

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0:35:24 - (Kevin Lowe): Oh, wow.

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0:35:57 - (David Pasqualone): I said, I want to graduate. I want closure. I said, I hate school. I don't want to get better and have to go back. I am finishing school, even if I die. That was it. So I went, graduated, and then one week from my graduation, I was in surgery.

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0:36:21 - (David Pasqualone): 19. Yeah, 95. March and 95 was my birthday. I found it in May, had surgery in June, had another surgery in September. So 96. Oh, I guess I was still 18. So everything happened when I was 18 because I was done with radiation by Valentine's day in 96, so I was just recovering when I was 19. It took me over a year to get even close to normal after all those surgeries.

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0:36:53 - (David Pasqualone): Yes. And they told me something that was terrifying to me. So my whole life, all I wanted to be, and this is true, I never had a father. I never had a family. I just wanted to be a good husband and father, and I wanted to have a lot of kids. And they told me straight up, because this is a hormonal tumor, you're going to be one extreme of the other. You're either going to be super fertile or you're going to be sterile.

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0:37:31 - (Kevin Lowe): Yeah, I guess that could be a good thing and a bad thing.

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0:37:42 - (Kevin Lowe): That's incredible. So one question that has come to my mind this whole time that you're sharing this journey is your faith. And you said that when you were 15. What led to that? And how did you come to know Jesus?

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0:38:31 - (David Pasqualone): And I told my mom that I always thought kind of like an adult because I had to. And so I had my grandma, like, smuggling me to catholic church and going to mass. I had my mom taking me to this charismatic, crazy nut job church. So I always knew there was a God, but I'm like, I don't think God's in either one of those. And I remember having this little Bible on the shelf, like a Gideon Bible. And actually it was before it was Gideon association, but it was like, I forget the name inside of it. But basically they gave this Bible to my uncle when he signed up for Vietnam. He brought it home in his rucksack, gave it to my grandma, and then it ended up just because we live with my grandma on the shelf. So I remember when things were chaotic in my home, seeing this Bible and everything else would, like, vibrate and move and be chaos, but that would stay steady.

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0:39:49 - (Kevin Lowe): Yeah.

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0:40:21 - (David Pasqualone): When I was twelve years old, my mom was going to that church with that pastor who's always inviting us to youth group. I went to an event with them to see a gentleman named Tim Lee. And he was a soldier who had, he was a marine, had his legs blown off in Vietnam. And he preached on God's love and heaven and hell and what it is. And he said, if you haven't trusted Christ as your savior, when you die, you are going to hell where the worm dieth, not with a fire, not, you'll be tormented day and night, forever and ever.

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0:41:20 - (David Pasqualone): And the dude interrogated, questioning me, where he made me feel like I did it wrong and I wasn't really saved. So I went from going down and I believe that is the day, the moment I got saved, I trusted Christ, but then immediately the seed was stolen and the joy was stolen and then I didn't know. And then my mom stops going to church. You talk about the perfect storm, right? Well, then I'm 15, and when I'm 15, I think I'm going crazy. But in my heart, God wasn't saying, go to a counselor. Do this or that. It's like, you need to go to that church. You need to go to that church. So I go to that church, and it's a Wednesday night. I remember my mom wouldn't even go in. She drops me off, and I go in, and, Kevin, I don't know the difference between a Bible and a hymnal. I'm sitting in the back row, because at school, you want to sit in the back, away from everybody.

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0:42:38 - (David Pasqualone): I remember it was a Thursday night after, like, a youth group. And so I'm, like, learning and growing. I don't really understand. And the pastor's walking up this gravel hill, and it's Pastor Carl coon, by the way, and his wife, Bev. Amazing people still talk to them to this day. I thank God for them. He puts his arm around me. Kevin. He says, dave, so it seems like you have a lot of questions. I'm like, yeah, I do.

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0:43:18 - (Kevin Lowe): Of course.

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0:43:50 - (David Pasqualone): Everything, like a bunch of the anxiety and hostility and anger all just went away. God just dramatically changed my life. And then my friends would come to the Bible study with me, and they trusted Christ as their savior, and it was just a beautiful thing and a beautiful time, and it changed my life. So that's how I got saved. So that's why when I was 18 and they found this tumor, I didn't care. I knew 100%. God's in control. Everything happens for a reason, and absent with the body, present with the Lord. So that's kind of my story.

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0:44:52 - (David Pasqualone): Thanks. This isn't super fake humility. It's God. I thank you for saying that. I understand what you're saying, but I think the key is God talks about childlike faith. I'm too stupid to know any better, so I just knew that God made promises. God keeps promises. The Bible never lies. God never lies. So I got nothing to fear.

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0:45:14 - (David Pasqualone): Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or discouraged. The Lord will be your God. He will be with you wherever you go. Joshua one nine. That's actually in front of me on the wall right now.

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0:45:39 - (David Pasqualone): No. So what's ironic is, when I'm 18, I'm dating this girl after high school. So everything happened after I graduate, right. Okay. So I backslide into sin there. So I'm still living, right? So to speak, in all the christian circle ways. But now I'm having sex out of marriage with this girl, which I know is wrong every single time. I feel guilty and sick every single time. And nobody was really saying anything.

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0:46:33 - (David Pasqualone): So damage for me to go to the military, I'm damaged goods, that's off the table. For me to go wrestle, that's damaged goods, it's off the table, right? So now it's like, well, what do I do with my life? At that point, I thought I was a poor, stupid moron, had no value. So do I get a job? Do I get a trade? Do I go to college? Do I just go help a missionary? Well, then I'm like, dude, you're not right with God. You're going to go curse the mission field you don't want to do.

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0:47:27 - (David Pasqualone): Yeah, that was how I was thinking, because it was a christian college and at that time it wasn't accredited, but they had a killer education that's better than most Ivy League schools, to be honest with you. So I end up going down there and I'm still recovering like I'm still sick as a dog. I'm still juicing every day. I'm barely 145 pounds, but that's kind of where I went. And then once I got to college, that's when God really started working on my heart and my mind and teaching me and growing me and toughening me up, actually, that's when it was like I was in the middle, and the middle is the worst place, the lukewarm, the gray.

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0:48:39 - (David Pasqualone): And Seth comes up to me before we had know four times a week, and he's like, dave, he's like, here's a flyer for neighborhood bile time. He's like, you got to check it out. He's like, you'd be amazing at it. He's like, you should be an evangelist this summer. And I'm like, what? I'm a mechanical engineering major. I don't even think I'm right with God. I'm like, this ministry is for preacher boys, and I'm going to curse it, man. What are you crazy? It's a.

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0:49:47 - (David Pasqualone): And then I run into Seth. He hands me this flyer. So I'm like, okay. I go up to my seat. I remember I was in the balcony. Kevin, I'm laughing. I'm about to cry. I remember sitting in the balcony saying, God, I think this is totally ridiculous, but I prayed. I told Seth I'd pray. Please, just let me hear your voice. I don't want to hear Seth's voice. I don't want to hear anybody's voice. I don't even want to hear my voice. Just. What's your voice?

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0:50:38 - (Kevin Lowe): What?

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0:51:14 - (David Pasqualone): Nobody's going to be working. I'm going to clear my conscience, leave a voicemail. They're never going to call me back. And then I hear never heard bio times. Brother homeshire, how can I help you? And ends up back then it was like almost 50 years of that ministry. They had one evangelist that wasn't a preacher boy and I was number two. And brother homeshire ended up being like my grandfather, him and brother Tudden and Paul Romig and even Jan, his daughter, and mahomesure, his wife. Just some of the most loving, godly humans I've ever met.

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0:52:21 - (David Pasqualone): So that's what I did. And so Seth handed me that flyer, told me to pray, just set me up for a changed life. And then that's my whole life changed. And I got just. My passion was God and just moved forward.

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0:52:46 - (David Pasqualone): Yeah. The older I get, the more I see and listen. There is a place for what we call church, right?

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0:52:54 - (David Pasqualone): But we have religious circles that aren't godly at all. And we have a lot of social structure that even within the church is so backwards and warped. And why I'm saying all that is we've got God in this box that he has to work a certain way or it's not God. Man, you go read your Bible, Old Testament, new cover to cover. God is consistent and God is love and God is goodness. But he doesn't work the same. He's God. He doesn't have to, but by faith, hebrews eleven. By faith, by faith, by faith, through every dispensation or time period. That's the common thread.

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0:54:02 - (David Pasqualone): He was a jew who got saved and was a Christian. In Canada, he becomes a bodyguard for a prostitution ring. And for two years, he told her how much God loves her, and he treated her with dignity and respect, and she got saved. And now her whole life has changed. And you can check that out. The remarkable People podcast, the Lena Sabula story. Wow. If you ask the know, am I encouraging people to go work for prostitution joints? No.

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0:55:05 - (David Pasqualone): So the characteristics of God are always the same. And if something's against the Bible, it's not God, but we should be. As christians. What I pray all the time is like, God, help me to hear your voice and discern it. Like, it talks about the shepherd and sheep and how a sheep know their father's voice. Man, I hope my heart and mind and ears are always attuned that I clearly hear my father's voice and I'm not being deceived or I'm not missing it.

:: 55:30

0:55:51 - (Kevin Lowe): I love it. How does life look for you today.

:: 55:54

0:56:19 - (David Pasqualone): My relationship with myself is better than it's ever been. My relationship with those around me is the best it can be. Like, I do my best. Not that I'm perfect or not that I'm not annoying to people or cause them pain, but it's not conscious. And even though it might happen, I try to fix it if I did something wrong. But financially, business is good. Our podcast, a remarkable people podcast, is a top 1% podcast. We knew it for over four years.

:: 56:46

0:57:21 - (David Pasqualone): And that's like, sheets, pillows, blankets, slippers. I mean, mattress toppers. There's 250 products, right? So they're giving our listeners an amazing deal. They have an american employee owned company that's growing, and then every time somebody buys something, our podcast gets more supported so we can reach more people with the gospel. So it's just, like, mind blowing to me that I get to record, like, you episodes that are going to hopefully reach people, connect with people, and help them know God loves them and help them grow, right?

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0:58:15 - (Kevin Lowe): Dude. I absolutely love it. And, I mean, I do have to give a shout out.

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0:58:20 - (Kevin Lowe): My pillow. That is what I slept on last night. Their sheets. Their pillow. Everything. So, yes, absolutely. Shout out to the my pillow guy.

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0:58:49 - (David Pasqualone): So I believe in the product, and I'm telling you, I sleep on them every night. I got the mattress topper like you. I got the sheets, I got the pillow, I got the slippers. They're freaking amazing.

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0:59:01 - (David Pasqualone): I even have the slippers. And then I bought, like. So I went out and I bought my girlfriend. Her daughter had a baby, so I went, and my pillow has these great kids pillowcases with really bright, vibrant colors and, like, bible verses on them.

:: 59:18

0:59:19 - (David Pasqualone): Like Noah's ark and stuff. And they're on clearance. So those are, like, the 80% off products. And then they ran the special for free. I think they're still running it. So if you use promo code. Remarkable. Not only will you get 80% off, but you get free shipping right now. Right? So it might end by the time people hear this, but it's awesome. So when I ordered these, I thought, oh, well, those are pretty expensive, but they get 80% off, and it's like, okay, I'll go ahead and order it. So I ordered two of them. I thought it was just a pillowcase I was ordering. I got a little mini, my pillow and a pillowcase that fits it custom.

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1:00:12 - (Kevin Lowe): Oh, they are insane. I love your story. I love the faith aspect. It's just absolutely incredible. Thank you for sharing it with me and my audience today. You are amazing guy, and thank you for being here.

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1:00:54 - (Kevin Lowe): Yeah, fantastic. Well, I will be sure that that is inside the show notes for easy access. Dude, you are amazing. Thank you. And to you, my listener, thank you as always for being here on the. You know, David is just another guy who reminds us of just how good people are. The greatest thing about this podcast is that we get to meet people. I get to meet people all over the world who I otherwise would have never even known existed, and yet I get to meet them. I get to bring their story to you.

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