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6 months ago A Toni was in the middle of the worst Sjogren’s flare of her life. She was nauseous, dizzy, vomiting and unable to eat. Her brain fog, joint pain and fatigue was excruciating and she was suffering pain level 10/10.
She was barely able to function and was quickly running out of options. Her doctors were threatening surgery and the medications she tried were only making things worse. Listen in to why an online program was the solution to her autoimmune turnaround and how her life and symptoms have transformed for good.
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Welcome to Transform with Dr.
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:Maggie Yu Podcast, where
education meets results.
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:I'm Dr.
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:Maggie Yu, your guide with nearly
three decades of experience
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:in root cause medicine.
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:Here, we dive deeper into the root
causes of chronic disease through
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:interviews, case studies, and trainings.
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:Hi everybody.
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:I'm Maggie MD and welcome to Transform.
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:I'm a functional and a holistic
medicine MD, and our program is
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:transform autoimmune Disease naturally.
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:With me today, I, we have the pleasure of
interviewing Antoin and her husband Kean.
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:Has been diagnosed with Sjogren's and had
a ton of slew of other symptoms that even
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:preceded quite a bit before her diagnoses.
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:And today we're here to actually
see . A successful case of study of a
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:couple who did something extraordinary
to turn around her Sjogren's and
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:her severe symptoms naturally.
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:So here is Antonin and here's Kian.
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:Hello, uh, my name is Kian Smith.
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:Um, I'm, uh, from Washington, DC uh, IT
professional, so I like figuring things
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:out and uh, Antonin Smith is my wife.
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:I'm Antonin Ian's my husband and I
too work in it, but I'm a trainer.
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:Um, I'm on that side, so I'm normally
in front of folks and talking to people.
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:So what I would love to do is ask you,
Antonin and Ian, first of all, when
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:did this journey wish, you know, you
joined our program six months ago?
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:Where were you six months ago
before you joined our program?
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:I was in the middle of, I.
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:The worst flare of my life that I'd had.
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:Um, I was nauseous and vomiting.
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:I couldn't eat anything.
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:I had really bad brain
fog, joint pain, fatigue.
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:Um, it was just really, really
excruciating, like just not
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:being able to do anything.
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:Lymph nodes swollen.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:Lymph nodes were swollen.
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:Mm-Hmm.
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:. Um.
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:Doctors were threatening me with surgery.
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:. Yeah, that's true.
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:It was bad.
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:Like it was awful.
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:Um, my joints like, they would
just thro, not even a throbbing,
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:just a, a stabbing kind of pain.
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:It was just, it was really bad.
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:And then the vertigo and the nausea,
um, and all that, it was really bad.
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:The pain, it, it was about a 10.
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:I would say a nine, 10.
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:And then the food.
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:What was this whole nausea.
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:Were you able to eat food?
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:? I couldn't eat anything.
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:Yeah.
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:I couldn't eat anything.
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:I couldn't hold anything down.
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:Um, but I remember the, I remember
the meal before I got sick, . That's
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:how bad it was because I remember
eating, we had like, uh, like a
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:Beyond burger or something like that.
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:Because you get grilled.
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:Right.
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:And I remember, I don't know how I
can remember that, but I remember
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:that meal because maybe a couple
hours later I couldn't eat and I
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:didn't eat for like a week or Right.
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:It was a weekend, something.
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:I didn't, I wasn't able to
eat anything I could drink.
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:I.
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:A little bit, but at first
I could drink nothing.
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:Right?
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:Yeah.
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:And so my question is, this is
really common, and this is a
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:really good lesson for a lot of
people dealing with autoimmunity.
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:I wanna find out how many years or decades
did some of these symptoms precede her
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:diagnosis, and how did you guys finally
figure out that this was the diagnosis?
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:So the timeframe prior to her
diagnosis, um, was approximately
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:like two years prior.
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:Um, and she was having flares.
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:We didn't know what they were.
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:It was just every now and then, maybe
twice a year it, and it would typically
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:happen on her birthday 'cause I
would try to take her out of town, do
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:something special, and all we do is
stay in a hotel room under the covers.
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:You know, everything, everything sick.
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:Um, and she was experiencing the same
thing, wasn't under the covers, right?
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:Yeah, it wasn't at all.
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:So she was in pain.
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:Um, you know, uh, fatigue.
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:Everything.
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:Everything.
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:And we, I remember seeing doctors
while we were out of town.
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:Mm-Hmm.
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:, uh, everything.
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:Yeah.
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:Because I would get like fevers.
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:Yeah.
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:I would just get these really odd fevers.
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:Right.
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:And I would break out in a cold sweat.
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:It was crazy.
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:Yeah.
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:Well then two years of this craziness,
did they figure out what was wrong?
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:Did any of the doctors that you
saw figure out even what was wrong?
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:Did any doctors recognize that these were
even possible early signs of autoimmunity?
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:No.
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:Uh, no Doctors, uh.
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:Pointed that out at all.
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:Like she said, they wanted to do surgery,
they wanted to take out a lymph node, and
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:they were looking at, uh, what was it,
your, your liver or something like that.
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:Spleen.
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:Your spleen.
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:That's what it was.
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:It they'll cancer probably.
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:Right?
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:Exactly.
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:That's, so I went to oncologist,
the hematology oncologist,
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:they were drawing blood.
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:I'm sitting there and I'm like, this
is not where I'm supposed to be.
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:So the rheumatologist was.
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:Was telling me I had to do, um, a
medication Plaquenil to, you know, I think
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:it's like an anti-malarial kind of drug.
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:Yeah.
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:Um, and so he was like, you're just gonna
have to do this for the rest of your life.
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:. Right.
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:And I was like, I really don't
wanna do medication because
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:I tend to get a side effect.
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:I did.
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:I broke out in highs, my skin was burning.
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:What was the only next option?
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:There was no other option.
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:As a matter of fact, the
doctors at time just quit it.
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:I just quit it.
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:Right.
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:You know, at the time when she got
it, you know, and different doctors,
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:it was like, oh, it's just Sjogren's.
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:Right.
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:You know, not a big deal.
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:It only affects this, but.
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:Not a big deal.
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:You went to all these doctors, you got
Plaquenil, you got reactions to it,
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:and on top of it, it didn't even work.
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:And realizing that the only option was
medication, you decided you're gonna
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:find, you're gonna find somebody else
and you're gonna go out of the box.
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:And you found me and our program.
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:Yes.
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:So my question is.
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:What possessed you to go outside
the box, go rogue and join
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:an online program with me.
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:I found, uh, your program, uh,
I found it on, uh, Facebook.
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:Um, and what caught my attention
was, of course, you said, you know,
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:uh, feel better from your, uh,
autoimmunity, uh, in a couple of
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:months, uh, and do it naturally.
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:And so.
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:Kind of got us, uh, because we wanted
to get away from the medications.
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:And, uh, you know, do things naturally.
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:But I think what set us, uh, up
what, you know, the writing on the
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:wall was, the fact that you also
experienced, uh, this autoimmunity
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:thing and the people that work with
you experienced, experienced it too.
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:And I, that's when I told my wife, I, I
said, I really think we should do this.
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:Where are you now with
your, what are your results?
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:Where are you now?
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:So my pain level has
diminished substantially.
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:Um.
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:I don't really have a lot of pain.
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:Um, the only time I will say
that I experienced any pain is
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:if I cheat . If I cause Yes,
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:Yeah.
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:So I know what's doing it to me.
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:Right?
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:So when, you know, if I feel
something like, oh, or, or before
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:I even eat it or try, I'm like, oh,
I'm gonna for this, I know what.
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:Different food intolerance I have.
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:I know you know which
things kind of cause what?
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:You know, like for me,
sugar is a big pain.
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:Uh.
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:Now, you know?
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:Yeah.
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:It's, it just brings on pain.
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:Like I can't have a lot of sugar.
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:Mm-Hmm.
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:because things will, it starts with
my elbow, then it goes to my knee.
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:Then I'm just, you know, . Well wait a
minute before we go to cause and effect.
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:First of all, pain level
you said was a 10 outta 10.
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:What level is it now?
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:Gimme a number now.
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:Like a two.
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:Okay.
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:Two.
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:What about food and stomach problems?
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:Oh, I don't really have those.
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:Nope.
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:Ain't nobody got time for that done right.
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:, , brain fog.
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:Where the heck are you?
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:Brain fog.
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:'cause you were almost dysfunctional
with the brain fog when we met.
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:Where's brain fog now?
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:Girlfriend?
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:Maybe a two.
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:Maybe?
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:Yeah.
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:How important would you say is the
role of community in your autoimmune
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:turnaround and continue improvement?
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:It plays a big part.
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:I know in the beginning, my pod, I call
them my pod mates, . I really enjoy
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:talking to them, bouncing ideas off of
them when, when one of us would be going
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:through something new or different.
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:Um, it was just good to have support
because it's so hard to get that
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:outside of the program because a lot of
people don't e even if they had this,
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:they don't know how to talk about 'em.
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:They don't know what's causing them.
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:Um, and so with the pod mates, it was
easier to talk about those things,
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:easier to bounce ideas, easier to,
even if you didn't feel well, you
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:thought something wasn't going well.
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:Just to kind of figure those things out,
um, together really helped kind of glue
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:us a little stronger in our thinking,
in the way that the program runs.
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:Right.
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:What, what I'm hearing is it was more
personalized, more supportive, and
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:you actually learned more and faster.
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:Yes.
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:Yes.
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:What's something that you do
now effortlessly, almost take
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:it for granted that six months
ago you thought was impossible?
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:So, six months ago I was not able to
just bounce out of bed in the morning.
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:Like it took me a , a a
long time to get from.
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:Lying down to sitting up to go into
the shower, you know, to start my day.
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:And now I just get up like,
like there's no struggle.
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:Like I don't feel tired when I get up.
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:I just bounce up and it's
like the oddest thing.
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:And I know it sounds
silly, but it's just weird.
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:'cause I remember when.
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:I couldn't do that.
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:Like I couldn't do that.
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:Giddy.
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:You're joyous and giddy right
now, just even talking about
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:being able to bounce out of bed.
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:Next Saturday I'm gonna be
speaking at a women's conference.
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:About my journey, . And so I didn't
know that I would be doing anything
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:like that, you know, to tell
somebody else, okay, this is what
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:happened to me and that I'm okay.
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:Right?
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:Because a lot of people
don't really have that.
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:Testimony.
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:Right.
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:So that's one thing that, you
know, I learned that, okay.
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:I can do something like that.
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:Congratulations for both of you.
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:I mean, for Ian, for put, for, you
know, finding us and for, you know,
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:supporting her and pushing her into
doing this program and believing in her.
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:And Antonina, you are a leader.
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:And you are an inspiration.
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:I mean, and thank you for
being on this interview.
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:I know that you're a shy
person, , and a private person,
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:so I really appreciate this.
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:And the thing that brings
me the most joy is that I.
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:You're living your life with joy, with
curiosity, with fun, with mischievousness.
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:Yes.
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:. Yes.
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:Congratulations, you two.
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:Thank you.
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:Thank you.
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:Thank you for joining us today.
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:Lupus lung fibrosis, Hashimoto
thyroiditis, fibromyalgia as which
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:is a form of arthritis that's
too far, extremely fatigued.
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:Pretty much zero joint
pain, much more happy.
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:I don't have brain fog anymore.
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:How much weight I have
lost, I wanna say remission.
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:Maggie and her approach is very
different than the traditional doctors.
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:I'm a totally different person.
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:I got a better understanding of
what those intolerances were.
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:You're not alone.
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:The community is, I'm learning
from all of everyone else's issues,
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:but it's not just helped me.
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:It's helped my entire family.
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:We are transformed.
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