God has given us our families, really, for His glory.
Caesar Kalinowski:We think those little image bearers bear our image.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, they might.
Caesar Kalinowski:They might have your nose, your eyes, your temperament or whatever, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:But they are image bearers.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, we are God given to fill the world with His glory.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so, as our families display that even greater than any of us do individually, we're part of the body of Christ.
Caesar Kalinowski:We do become these little kingdom outposts where people can see and taste and experience.
Caesar Kalinowski:I think that what you
Tina Kalinowski:just said is really important because none of us On our own is that perfect image of Jesus.
Tina Kalinowski:It's together, a community that we really display the body of Christ most perfectly, most completely I think is a better word.
Tina Kalinowski:So as a family, we actually get to do that on our own.
Tina Kalinowski:As that family grows, we actually even become more like Christ, is that as we extend the family out, as we include others in, we
Caesar Kalinowski:really become more like Christ.
Caesar Kalinowski:Absolutely.
Announcer:Welcome to the Everyday Disciple Podcast, where you'll learn how to live with greater intentionality and an integrated faith that naturally fits into every area of life.
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Caesar Kalinowski:Now today.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're going to be getting into part two of this family on mission talk that I did with Tina.
Caesar Kalinowski:That was, that was part of a bonus training we did online live.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's why it sounds a little bit different.
Caesar Kalinowski:But, uh, I hope you listened to the last episode that we put out just a couple days ago.
Caesar Kalinowski:It was part one of this living as a family on mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:And in that we began to tell you Kind of our, a little bit more of our story and how we were living and then learning to live and how Team K was born and how this, you know, this moniker of Team K became sort of how we referred to us, our family at our best, but also pulled our kids together, pulled us together on mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's also how people began to refer to us and, and people really want to become a part of Team K and still do.
Caesar Kalinowski:I can remember when Tina and I were living in New York for a while making disciples and doing some training just a few years back There was a woman who lived across the street from us this actress and she was becoming part of our oikos and community there And we were outside talking to her with another neighbor who had just come over just once and we said something to the one lady the first lady and we said Well, hey, you know, now that you're part of Team K, da da da da, we expect you to be over here a whole lot more.
Caesar Kalinowski:And the other lady was like, I want to be a part of Team K.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we said, oh, well, you get to be.
Caesar Kalinowski:And what she was saying is, hey, I loved this, and I loved being with you, and I want to be a part of this.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, uh, I hope you're enjoying this story.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're going to continue on today and I'm going to give you part two of the training and we're going to talk a little bit about what God had to change in our hearts and some of the things that you might need to consider sort of laying at the altar or setting down or giving back to God in your life, some rhythms, patterns, fears, preferences, things like that, that he might need to change for you to truly live as, you know, sort of an open family and a family on mission that includes lots and lots of people in your family.
Caesar Kalinowski:As the rings of your lifestyle and family life move outward to include more and more others.
Caesar Kalinowski:I think you're going to really enjoy this.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, uh, give it a listen and I'll be back at the end to give you a few more thoughts.
Caesar Kalinowski:All right, here we go.
Caesar Kalinowski:So many people ask, but how do I do this?
Caesar Kalinowski:My family, you know, and really, even if you're leading a church, like we said, becoming a family on mission, it's the starting point.
Caesar Kalinowski:You're never going to lead anybody further or faster or deeper into the gospel and into discipleship.
Caesar Kalinowski:then you're leading your own family, your first mission field.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, your family
Tina Kalinowski:really is your first mission field and it is truly a kingdom outpost.
Tina Kalinowski:It's that safe place you can bring others to experience what the kingdom is like.
Tina Kalinowski:So, uh, you know, I hope you're inviting others into that.
Tina Kalinowski:I hope that you're enjoying your family being the kingdom and the, and the grace and the gospel and the
Caesar Kalinowski:good news that comes with that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, displaying all that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and that's kind of how we started yesterday, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:We talked a little bit about, um, About, you know, why this is so important that God has given us our families really for his glory We think those little image bears a bear our image Well, they might they might have your nose your eyes your temperament or whatever, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:But they are image bears like we are God given to fill the world with his glory.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so as our families display that even greater than any end up do individually.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're part of the body of Christ, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:We do become these little kingdom outposts where people get to see and taste and experience.
Caesar Kalinowski:What you just
Tina Kalinowski:said is really important because not none of us on our own is that perfect image of Jesus.
Tina Kalinowski:It's together in community that we really display the body of Christ.
Tina Kalinowski:Perfectly, most completely, I think is a better word and as so as a family, we actually get to do that like on our own and is as a family grows, we actually even become more like Christ is that as we extend the family hour as we include others in we absolutely become more
Caesar Kalinowski:like Christ.
Caesar Kalinowski:Absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:Absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey, before we dive deep into part two, and I hope, I hope, you know, we kind of like We were a little tricky yesterday.
Caesar Kalinowski:We told you we're going to tell you the end of the Team K story.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's good.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh man, it's beautifully good.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, we're also going to talk to you about how our family, after, you know, God formed us and we started realizing we were Team K and people started paying attention and wanting to be a part of Team K and join the party and get to the meals and come and work with us and hang with us and vacation with us and all.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, but we realized some stuff about our own heart and things that God was calling us to kind of lay down and die to, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:We're going to talk a lot about that today.
Caesar Kalinowski:All right, let's get going.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, so we talked about our family, why we became team K and like a way to pull our kids together and how it became sort of the moniker, you know, that we use and people started to refer to us at our best.
Caesar Kalinowski:And they wanted to be a part of Team K still now.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, daily, it's part of, it's part of the deal.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's just part of the deal where Team K people refer to us as that.
Caesar Kalinowski:And if people are coming over, they're like, Hey, Team K doing family dinner tonight.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're coming.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know what I mean?
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, um, and, and that has been a beautiful thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:It has been a beautiful thing, but you know what?
Caesar Kalinowski:At first, even as we started to realize this and open up our home, and kind of along the way, and even still, we had to kind of like, set a few things down.
Caesar Kalinowski:We had to like, let God reshape some of our fear and preference and, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:You know?
Caesar Kalinowski:And so, um, one of those first things was, like, our mealtimes.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, who was there, how often, what we served, what it cost, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah,
Tina Kalinowski:yeah, mealtimes.
Tina Kalinowski:You know, even just the fact of having a regular mealtime that was kind of a predictable pattern that we can invite people into that they knew when it was happening and, um, and that they knew that our door was open, you know, which then, you know, force leads to like, well, you know, what are we eating and what's our food budget look like, you know?
Tina Kalinowski:It really led to some very creative gospel moments.
Tina Kalinowski:And
Caesar Kalinowski:would we be willing to intentionally start having one of those meals a week where we're going to have others in now, eventually that changed and it became a lot of meals a week.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we can even talk to you about like a time when our kids sort of pushed on that a little bit, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, that's fair, but, but can we start to have our own family meals?
Caesar Kalinowski:with some grace and predictability.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then can we maybe pick a night of the week that we're going to say, Hey, we're going to start opening that up to others.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that becomes a little taste into our family life.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now we want to have a beautiful, wonderful, grace filled family dinner night ourselves, um, before we invite people into a mess and the kids don't like want to be there.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we're all we do is fight and correct and discipline and all that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here's another one.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, cooking skills.
Caesar Kalinowski:Some people flip out like, I don't really know
Tina Kalinowski:how to cook.
Tina Kalinowski:I don't know what to do.
Tina Kalinowski:And, and let me just tell you, I grew up, my mom was the worst cook ever.
Tina Kalinowski:I, I joke that I learned how to cook in self defense because my mom was so bad at it.
Tina Kalinowski:But the thing that my mom, my mom, we, there were five of us kids and we all had to be home for family dinner.
Tina Kalinowski:but we could bring anybody we wanted home.
Tina Kalinowski:And my mom would take whatever she had and she would make it work for however many people showed up.
Tina Kalinowski:My mom had the gift of hospitality, so good, even though she didn't have the gift of cooking.
Tina Kalinowski:Here's the thing, nobody really cared what the food tasted like.
Tina Kalinowski:What they cared about is if they were invited and included.
Caesar Kalinowski:People want a place at the table.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's what they care about.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I know, see, here's the thing, okay, a little gospel.
Caesar Kalinowski:of gospelling of our hearts here.
Caesar Kalinowski:When we are more concerned about what people think about our cooking, or the size of our home, or the fact that, guess what, there's a Basket of Laundry over there, whatever.
Caesar Kalinowski:What we are is we have fear of man.
Caesar Kalinowski:We think that, that their opinion of us is higher than God's and we already have his approval.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's more glorious, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And all that stuff is connected.
Caesar Kalinowski:In fact, all this stuff we're going to talk today, a lot of it's connected to fear of man or love of self.
Caesar Kalinowski:We actually love me and my preference and what people think of me more than we love God and his mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:and making disciples and the fact that Jesus gave us this life and we want to extend it, we get to extend it.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's a big thing connected to that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now we could go many, many weeks, months and years on that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here's another thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our personal time, like we start going, I'm just too busy for this.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, no, you're not go back and think about the training, watch the training on the six discipleship rhythms.
Caesar Kalinowski:All of life is already perfectly open for discipleship.
Caesar Kalinowski:We already live in these rhythms.
Tina Kalinowski:And I think this, uh, this whole idea of personal time, it's like my time, my house, my kids, my family, my preference, mine, mine, mine.
Tina Kalinowski:I feel like it's like, you know, finding Nemo versus Seagull.
Tina Kalinowski:All they know how to say is mine, mine.
Tina Kalinowski:So, um, we have to give up a lot of mine and realize it's really all God's.
Tina Kalinowski:All And some of
Caesar Kalinowski:our time.
Caesar Kalinowski:And some of us lead our family like that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like we're like, Like seven years old or something, Not mine or four.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know what I mean?
Caesar Kalinowski:And there again, Some of that's out of fear.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's how we can control what others think of us as we don't let them in a lot.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:But our personal time, Um, starting to live open, like we pretty much live.
Caesar Kalinowski:And have lived for decades, our whole life really, our, you know, marriage, even before we knew a lot of this stuff, we've lived open door policy.
Caesar Kalinowski:We just have.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I know that flips you out, but here's the thing about living with an open door, saying we're going to treat everyone like part of team K.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like Family.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:We're going to treat them like family.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here's the thing about that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Once that's settled in our hearts, that's how God sees us.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's how God treats us.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're gonna go ahead and treat others that way.
Caesar Kalinowski:Then we quit worrying about, like, our schedule as much.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we're losing in who's out.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, if we're eating anyway.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can come on by if we're laying around watching, you know, something on Netflix, probably you can come by, but here's the other thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:We also have the freedom when it's not a good time or we're needing some, you know, couple time or whatever to say, yeah, no, it's not a great time.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like I've used this sort of analogy and it's true story actually, but like, you know, if we're laying around, Tina and I having a little bit of wine or something, watching a romantic comedy or who knows what, and someone ding dong knocks on, you know, brings the doorbell and I'm like, Hey, what's up brother?
Caesar Kalinowski:You know?
Caesar Kalinowski:And it was like, well, what are you guys doing?
Caesar Kalinowski:And I stopped by and we're like, well, uh, we're watching a romantic comedy and having some wine and kind of, you know, hoping for a happy ending, if you know what I'm saying.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and then I'm like, Oh, you know, I'm like, well, it's an emergency.
Caesar Kalinowski:We'll turn that off.
Caesar Kalinowski:Come on in.
Caesar Kalinowski:But if it's not, how about we catch breakfast tomorrow?
Caesar Kalinowski:See?
Caesar Kalinowski:And so people freak out.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm like, I couldn't live open door.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, Oh, that's going to be a hospital.
Caesar Kalinowski:Crazy.
Caesar Kalinowski:No, it's not.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's not.
Caesar Kalinowski:And there's you also in the gospel, you have freedom to go, Hey, you know what?
Caesar Kalinowski:That was not a super time.
Caesar Kalinowski:How about then?
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:How about later or something?
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So here's another one.
Caesar Kalinowski:You might have to like die to write or give back to God is where you live.
Tina Kalinowski:Yeah, if you've, you know, isolated yourself on, you know, 80 acres in the middle of nowhere,
Caesar Kalinowski:or even just, yeah, in a community that's like so gated up and no one gets in and, you know, none
Tina Kalinowski:of your says welcome to the kingdom, like a gate
Caesar Kalinowski:with a security guard, like your church buildings often, yeah, like often says welcome, like gates and lots anyway, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:We have very commonly people say to us, we're listening to this.
Caesar Kalinowski:We want to live this way, but boy, boy, you know, our closest neighbors, like, you know, quarter mile down the road or, you know.
Caesar Kalinowski:or more or whatever, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And I'm like, well, okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, why don't you live where there's people?
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, you should see our house.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so we've always dreamed of having land, you know, well, that's beautiful.
Caesar Kalinowski:But if it's keeping you from making, and actually, by the way, I don't think that does keep you from making disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:We have too many friends who are not going out of the park, baptizing people regularly, may live on farms, you know what I mean?
Caesar Kalinowski:So, um, and they're spread out.
Caesar Kalinowski:But if you're finding it hard to build relationships of proximity, and Life on Life and have people around because you live isolated or the house you've chosen is, is so keeping you so busy working that you got to work.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like ridiculous hours to keep that thing paid for.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, maybe, maybe that there again, you need to figure out, maybe I need a different house, maybe Lord, we're going to like lay that perfect house and impresses everybody in our dream house down, move to a neighborhood where there's people when we can live within our means, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:We're going to trust you for that.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we don't have to work as much, or we could take a job closer to home.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just last night with a couple, we're coaching.
Caesar Kalinowski:Both are, they're just precious and they're making disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:They have a beautiful community going.
Caesar Kalinowski:Their family life is open.
Caesar Kalinowski:The husband turned in his notice in a school district that he worked in, but it was a county away because he goes all that time and distance is eating up our time here in the neighborhood.
Caesar Kalinowski:And uh, he's a teacher and coach.
Caesar Kalinowski:I wanna be doing that right here in the schools.
Caesar Kalinowski:where our friends and neighbors are all a part of, and our kids are too.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so in faith, without a new job, in faith, God's going to sort that out.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're, they're changing jobs.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's another thing you might have to go, hey.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, like when we lived in Manhattan with people that like had these amazing jobs, like, wow, didn't they make the money and prestige?
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And fun.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, but they worked like 70 hours or more.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, and, but little by little, as the gospel took root, they started making some choices different.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm going to work less.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm going to make a little less.
Caesar Kalinowski:Maybe I won't get to live on the 31st floor here.
Caesar Kalinowski:Maybe I'll have to like move into a normal, you know, 5, 000, 7, 000 apartment in New York, you know, instead of the 10, 000 or whatever, see, as, as if we love people and we love God in his glory, and we want to see them find spiritual freedom and spiritual peace.
Caesar Kalinowski:We might need to, now that's highfalutin, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Most of us aren't faced with that in New York.
Caesar Kalinowski:Some of you watching this might be, but some of us just might need to look at our job and where we live and the house that it provides and go, Hey.
Caesar Kalinowski:Is this, are we able to make disciples here or, or do we need to maybe like, maybe we need to, we do, but we need a little kitchen upgrade or we need to, or something, or we need to not worry about it.
Caesar Kalinowski:And listen, we have done missional communities and made disciples and made disciples and make disciples out of little dinky apartments.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm not joking.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like studio or one bedroom.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:missional community, we kind of latched onto, you know, some people of peace.
Caesar Kalinowski:And this one couple who were just like magnets, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Drew all kinds of young people to us, you know, and they were our friends, friends, and became our friends, friends, and became our friends and are still our friends, even though we live like three or four blocks away and had a much larger house, they were sort of the center boot center of gravity.
Caesar Kalinowski:Their apartment was like three, 400 square foot.
Caesar Kalinowski:We were always in there like all the time in there eating, doing the story of God, hanging out at their own birthday parties.
Caesar Kalinowski:film, like movie nights, music nights, 17, 18, 20 of us, three, four inch per foot.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm not joking.
Caesar Kalinowski:It was just no one
Tina Kalinowski:everywhere.
Tina Kalinowski:They didn't even have a full set.
Tina Kalinowski:They had a cocktail table, like a high top cocktail table in the kitchen.
Tina Kalinowski:That was it.
Tina Kalinowski:It just was kind of enough room to stick the food and we all just crammed in and nobody here because everybody
Caesar Kalinowski:was welcomed.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now some, for some of us, some of this has to do with like, well, you know, where we live.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, it's even hard to let me have my, let my, want to let my kids go out and play with a lot of the neighbors because they're, you know, they're not very obedient or I don't know the parents so I don't trust them.
Caesar Kalinowski:That might be one of the things you have to sort of lay down and trust.
Caesar Kalinowski:God, they're, remember, they're his kids.
Caesar Kalinowski:who he's allowing us to steward.
Tina Kalinowski:Here's the crazy thing about our kids is that God actually loves our kids and cares about our kids and can actually do a better job caring for our kids than we can any day of the week.
Tina Kalinowski:And so we have to allow God, you know, to be able to, like, we need to let God direct our parenting in this.
Tina Kalinowski:We need to let God.
Tina Kalinowski:Um, allow our kids through certain situations that we can gospel them heart's sake.
Tina Kalinowski:We're trying to protect our kids from the world.
Tina Kalinowski:They will never learn actually how to exist in the world.
Tina Kalinowski:We're doing, we're not loving our kids by doing that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Guess what?
Caesar Kalinowski:Your, your kid's hearts are just as sinful as everybody else's kid's hearts.
Caesar Kalinowski:But some of those kids, maybe they've not experienced the love and parenting that your kids are getting.
Caesar Kalinowski:So isn't that a beautiful thing?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, yeah, I wish we had the time to tell you the amount of stories of how kids who are kind of like little, the bully neighborhood kids who we just helped our kids extra befriend and extra bless and extra invite to stuff.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's what they, that's what they were dying for and how they became part of Team K.
Caesar Kalinowski:Overturn and how it softened their hearts.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it taught our kids these valuable lessons of people who we don't necessarily initially get along with or our favorite or whatever.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, God still loves them and God still put us in their life and them in our life.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you might need to lay that down, like trust God for that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Tina Kalinowski:It really helped our kids learn to look for the thing behind the thing, which is.
Tina Kalinowski:That is so important, right?
Tina Kalinowski:In
Caesar Kalinowski:everyday life.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yes.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, right.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, um, now here's another thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:You might have to lay out how many activities your kids are involved in.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Some of us, um, and our kids, they sign up for multiple sports a year.
Caesar Kalinowski:So every season there's a sport and Oh, God, and there's travel team.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, they need private lessons.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh.
Caesar Kalinowski:And they're in band and they're, you know, and, and.
Caesar Kalinowski:We might need to lay that down.
Caesar Kalinowski:Activities
Tina Kalinowski:are great, but not when activities make the rules.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so now we have no space for people.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're so, we've made ourselves so busy at the altar of like, I don't know, sports fame or something.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, that we don't have, we have no room to make disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like we've had to have these conversations with people.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like, okay, your whole life's been consumed with soccer for two of your kids for like the last 10 years.
Caesar Kalinowski:We've known you every soccer camp, every summer camp, every traveling league, every, every, every, everything.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now, let's just say your kid is Pele or Beckham or, you know what I mean?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm older.
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't really watch soccer, but, um, let's just say they become the best person in the world.
Caesar Kalinowski:Is that going to save their soul?
Caesar Kalinowski:Is that going to disciple their hearts?
Caesar Kalinowski:Is that going to help them make disciples?
Caesar Kalinowski:No, in fact, it wrecks a lot of people when it comes to spiritual things and, and here's the thing, probably your kid's not going to be Beckham or whoever, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, here's what we, we, we suggest and what we did with our kids.
Caesar Kalinowski:We said, Hey, we, we want you to experience all these things you get to pick us for this season, this year, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Connected to school and, or, you know, our public, whatever, um, or band.
Caesar Kalinowski:And if they overlap, we got to figure out which one you want, because we, first of all, we didn't want to live as taxis.
Caesar Kalinowski:We only have three kids, but that's still a lot of taxi work, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and, um, we wanted to know that we also had the space and time to have those friends and families around versus, well, we're to the next thing, here to the next thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so I think kids being in sports is an amazing opportunity to build relationships.
Caesar Kalinowski:So I'm not anti any of it, but when you live just thing to thing to thing to thing to thing, some of you are going, I know, I'm totally getting it.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'd like to have time to check the comments for me on how bad it is.
Caesar Kalinowski:You need to like start to say, Hey, let's lay that down and let, let me just, let me talk turkey to you here.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here's Uncle Caesar, Uncle Frank.
Caesar Kalinowski:Speaking truth to you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Some of you do that because you are vicariously living through it or because when your kids do well, you feel like you're the super parent and or you would never want to say no.
Caesar Kalinowski:because you, you know, your, your kids, glory, your glory comes from you being the super parent or what you're seeing.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm saying or something.
Caesar Kalinowski:I want to challenge you if this is, if, if you're, if you're extracurricular activities for your kids is why you could never make disciples or live like a family in mission, you're missing so much opportunity.
Caesar Kalinowski:Not only
Tina Kalinowski:are you missing, you have to realize that you're setting your kids up for a lot of disappointment and failure because you're teaching them that the world revolves around them.
Tina Kalinowski:You're in effect, even if you're not saying it, that's what you're implying to your children is that the world revolves around them and what they do and they're the most important thing.
Tina Kalinowski:And yes, they are very important thing, you know, they're very important, but that is, that is such a disservice to them and it's not
Caesar Kalinowski:loving them well.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so listen, I think sports and extra band and extracurricular activities like that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Why all that?
Caesar Kalinowski:I think they're awesome.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I think they're meaningful.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I think they're amazing opportunities to build relationship for our kids, for us, with the parents involved.
Caesar Kalinowski:Amen.
Caesar Kalinowski:And yes.
Caesar Kalinowski:And yes.
Caesar Kalinowski:But you hear what we're saying.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So that's one thing.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, how about this?
Caesar Kalinowski:Who you do holidays with and where every year, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like tough one.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like for us, for instance, um, 4th of July is a huge deal in our neighborhood.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like the funnest and everybody pulls out all the stops and believe me, all the fireworks, our fireworks in this neighborhood rival some of the best we've ever seen.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like more than maybe what the city's doing.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we live on the waterfront.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, not our house, but our city five minutes away is water.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's amazing because everybody pitches in and there's some guys who are really good at it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, and we have three firemen that live on like.
Caesar Kalinowski:Within a block of us and Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's amazing.
Caesar Kalinowski:And uh, and party's in tents and like, whoa, it's crazy.
Caesar Kalinowski:So guess what?
Caesar Kalinowski:We try not to travel on on 4th of July because we want to be with our people at peace.
Caesar Kalinowski:We wanna be with our friends, with our community that's here.
Caesar Kalinowski:Mm-Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:. Um, some folks, you know, are missing that opportunity for.
Caesar Kalinowski:having people over for Christmas.
Caesar Kalinowski:No, every year we always go here, go to my grandma's.
Caesar Kalinowski:Every year?
Caesar Kalinowski:Maybe every other year.
Caesar Kalinowski:How about, you know, or every Thanksgiving?
Caesar Kalinowski:Or like, that's big for us too.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, we, we try not to travel for those times.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so how about this first suggestion?
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, well for one, pray about it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And say, Hey.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like those are our family, but these are our family too.
Caesar Kalinowski:And guess what?
Caesar Kalinowski:There's people out there that don't have any family.
Caesar Kalinowski:What if, say, you know, this is your tradition and you travel a lot on those bigger holidays.
Caesar Kalinowski:What if you go, hey, one year we will, one year we won't.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or one year we travel on Christmas, but we stay home for Thanksgiving.
Caesar Kalinowski:We flip it that year, we go see our family for Thanksgiving, but then we're here for Christmas to have people around.
Caesar Kalinowski:See, these are some of the things you might have to loosen up.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, my mom would flip.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, listen, our parents used to too, you know.
Caesar Kalinowski:And not so much my parents, but like some of my sisters.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I can remember even some of my sisters being angry with me because I would, we were, you know, I'd be like in Sudan trying to feed starving people and bring the gospel there, or we were hosting, you know, a birthday party for a bunch of kids who were homeless, but not, you know, we're helping them out and got them in an apartment where we were like, Oh yeah, but you didn't make my sons.
Caesar Kalinowski:11th birthday and bringing that 15, 20 gift.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know what I mean?
Caesar Kalinowski:That they couldn't understand themselves.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, we're doing the best we can.
Caesar Kalinowski:Or
Tina Kalinowski:holidays which, you know, that used to break my heart because I think, you know, so many people don't have family at the holidays and it's such a ripe opportunity to reach out and bless people and help them to feel part of the family.
Tina Kalinowski:And so having holidays where we weren't able to bring people and to say we moved and we weren't right next to our family, it was one of the blessings was that we got to create, we got to invite anybody we wanted.
Caesar Kalinowski:Kind of freed us up, you know, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:In some ways.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our kids really
Tina Kalinowski:grasped onto that and they would come home.
Tina Kalinowski:a home with like lists of people they wanted to invite, like the, you know, for the holidays, and it still happens.
Tina Kalinowski:Like we met so many people, our kids were like, well, Salsa's coming for the holidays.
Tina Kalinowski:And sometimes they don't even tell us until that person shows up, which is kind of fun.
Tina Kalinowski:But, but, and, and I think like even our daughter, when she was like living in, um, in Chicago, she chose not to come home a few, like Thanksgiving, do several, cause she would do friends giving because she knew that there were so many people who did not have a place.
Tina Kalinowski:Okay,
Caesar Kalinowski:so let me summarize a bunch of this.
Caesar Kalinowski:A lot of this, okay, is preference.
Caesar Kalinowski:A lot of stuff is preference.
Caesar Kalinowski:We need to lay on the altar and go, God, I love doing this, you know, and it's all, we've always done it, but what would you have us do so we can live as a family on mission?
Caesar Kalinowski:Some of it is, uh, fear of man, like our perfectly clean house or our cooking skills or our kids aren't that behaved or whatever.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we can, we can allow God to change that and work on that.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we can also believe that he is more glorious.
Caesar Kalinowski:And any of these people and he loves us perfectly regardless of the dust bunnies or, you know, our overcooked spaghetti or whatever, you know what I mean, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, but we, we really, we get to, we get to lay some of these things down for the eternal purpose of filling the world with God's glory as we make disciples of Jesus.
Caesar Kalinowski:and help people move from unbelief to belief in every area of life.
Caesar Kalinowski:You hear us say this all the time and experience greater freedom.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's what Christ came.
Caesar Kalinowski:It says, I was for freedom that I came to set you free and relational peace.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's, that's real and deep and lasting.
Caesar Kalinowski:We want that for you.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so much of that's been broken out there, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, our, our Western individualism.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, uh, for most of us who are going to be hearing this today, watching this today, it's really damaged and limited our understanding and function of, of both family and therefore what the church really is.
Caesar Kalinowski:Remember that's a big part of our identity.
Caesar Kalinowski:We get to redeem that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, leaders, I'm talking straight to you.
Caesar Kalinowski:We get to redeem that.
Caesar Kalinowski:We get to live as a model for the rest of our church, you know, family.
Caesar Kalinowski:We do.
Caesar Kalinowski:We get to model families as church, as the church to the rest of the world, what God always intended our families to be.
Caesar Kalinowski:And kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven.
Caesar Kalinowski:We get to bring a little heaven to earth.
Caesar Kalinowski:and invite people into it increasingly.
Caesar Kalinowski:So when you hear this talk today and you hear the light we're living with Team K and all that, just know it's not a light switch.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's not like, book, we gotta change it all.
Caesar Kalinowski:No.
Caesar Kalinowski:But little by little, will you allow God to use you, your kids, all the blessings he's poured into you, your home, your house, your talents, your experiences, your stuff.
Caesar Kalinowski:Will you allow him to use all that for his glory?
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm telling you, it is an adventure and it is a thrill ride that you will love.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Will you offer all that stuff up to him?
Caesar Kalinowski:And will you invite other people?
Caesar Kalinowski:and to your church, you know, from your church to join you in it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Will you do that?
Caesar Kalinowski:Will you be a family worth imitating that way?
Caesar Kalinowski:I hope you will.
Caesar Kalinowski:Alright, I want to tell you the rest of the Team K story.
Caesar Kalinowski:So lots of people over the years have become part of Team K.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, they just, they feel like it.
Caesar Kalinowski:They are.
Caesar Kalinowski:We see them that way.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're, you know, a lot of them are part of our own oikos.
Caesar Kalinowski:We call it our extended family of people we do life with, life's mission with.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, Um, few years ago, uh, our, our oldest daughter, Kristen, so our second born, um, she married, uh, the love of her life.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and he's great.
Caesar Kalinowski:We love Daniel so much.
Caesar Kalinowski:And the entire ceremony and the reception was just this picture of the gospel.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, they arranged the whole thing, but they're, you know, he was discipled in life and she grew up team K.
Caesar Kalinowski:So I want to.
Caesar Kalinowski:I think she's settled pretty well.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, but it wasn't perfect, but anyway, um, and the whole reception and then the whole thing was a picture of the gospel.
Caesar Kalinowski:I got to do the ceremony from, you know, fishing outfit, you know, preach the gospel.
Caesar Kalinowski:We all loved it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And during the time when everyone was getting their, you know, their official speeches, you know, uh, most of them are very, very hilarious.
Caesar Kalinowski:It was my turn, you know, as the father of the bride, I stood up and I, what I wanted to do is I wanted to officially induct Daniel, her husband, uh, our new son in law into TK.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And what I did was I had new and improved TeamK shirts printed up.
Caesar Kalinowski:Someone did me a logo where it looks like Superman logo, and, uh, it, uh, It ha.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, but it says Team K instead of a Big S.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And, um, but it says Team K anyway.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so then, uh, what I did was though on the back of these shirts, I, I put Dillard Division, , you know what I mean?
Caesar Kalinowski:His last name's Dillard, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And so, um, I had this bag and I had these shirts in there.
Caesar Kalinowski:And he's a big dude, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:So I pulled out like this extra large.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's almost a weapon tattooed, just like our son.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I said, listen, man, we really can see you're part of the family and part of Team K.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's like, I know.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I said, and, but right now, you know, um, you're starting a new division.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I pull out the shirts, Team K, everybody laughs.
Caesar Kalinowski:He loves it.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we turn it around and says Dillard division.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh man, cheering, you know, everything's great.
Caesar Kalinowski:I said, and you're going to now be leading this new division, first new division, you know, um, and I expect you to, you know, Do well with this and love people well and continue to grow this like we pulled out a little French cut top and it had for Kristen and it had a little small little logo and it said Dillard division on it, you know, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Everything's great.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I said, and we expect you, you know, for, for the Dillard division of team K to grow and grow.
Caesar Kalinowski:And everybody's like, yeah, you know, like we, we, and I pulled out a little onesie.
Caesar Kalinowski:in the back.
Caesar Kalinowski:I had a little baby onesie with that new Team K Dillard Division logo on it, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And I said, but really, girl, and I pulled out another one and then another one and everybody was losing their mind, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And it was a blast.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you know, the room is filled with people that we know, believing in that, yet believing they're really, you know, part of our extended life.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now, later that night, Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:A very dear friend of ours who was, was there at the wedding.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, she posted this.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:She posted this and it just was beautiful, but it really sums up everything we're talking about.
Caesar Kalinowski:So I'm getting, I've already getting choked up, you know, I'm gonna let Tina read what she posted because I'd never get through it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Tina Kalinowski:And she's posted this on Facebook, by the way.
Tina Kalinowski:So, um, It says, went to a wedding tonight.
Tina Kalinowski:A very beautiful woman married a very handsome man.
Tina Kalinowski:There is now a Diller division of Team K.
Tina Kalinowski:As one additional member was added to Team K, I looked around the room and saw many people I know have been loved and included.
Tina Kalinowski:By every member of that team, there are hundreds of honorary members of Team K, and I am blessed beyond words in understanding about how thankful I am to be one of them.
Tina Kalinowski:Love you all so, so very much, and thank you for including, encouraging, and caring for so many.
Tina Kalinowski:I can't even, I couldn't even think of anything better that I could ever hope to be said about our family.
Tina Kalinowski:No.
Caesar Kalinowski:God's family.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:God's family.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, chokes me up every time, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's beautiful.
Caesar Kalinowski:And guess what, that's a few years ago.
Caesar Kalinowski:So it's grown and grown and uh, the Dill division has grown . It really has.
Caesar Kalinowski:By two . Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, two, two like blood.
Caesar Kalinowski:But there's a, there's, yeah, theres a lot of people around them now.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right's, you know, people are, could that be said of your family?
Caesar Kalinowski:Would you love it to be, it can be, you know, are you leading your family on mission?
Caesar Kalinowski:Or is discipleship and mission something added in when you get around to it, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Do you live open so more and more people find a place at God's table and seat at his family table, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Do you have a marriage and family worth imitating?
Caesar Kalinowski:Would people know how to follow Jesus, walk with him, make disciples, experience freedom and joy, raise their kids in light of the gospel by hanging out with you guys?
Caesar Kalinowski:We want that for you.
Caesar Kalinowski:It can.
Caesar Kalinowski:It can really happen.
Caesar Kalinowski:You hear me getting a little choked up there at that, that last bit, that story, you know, about the Diller division and then our friends post, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:What that meant to her to be a part of team K.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, wow.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, God is so good that that is true of us in our family.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's all his grace.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I know he wants that for you too.
Caesar Kalinowski:He wants that for all of his family.
Caesar Kalinowski:To live in such a way that people would know him and come to know him and feel his love, right, and acceptance.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, that, that can so be true for you as well.
Caesar Kalinowski:I hope this has been encouraging.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'll bet it's challenging in some ways.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that's okay too, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:I hope you don't move on too quickly.
Caesar Kalinowski:from the thoughts you're having, but you spend some time as a couple, as a family, thinking, praying about this.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you listen to this alone, uh, would you, you know, share this with your spouse?
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, and if you're listening to this and you don't have a spouse or, um, maybe your, your kids have grown and you're wondering how to do all that too, we'd love to help you with some of that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Get into the Facebook group again and post some of those questions.
Caesar Kalinowski:Uh, we, we want to, that none of this is.
Caesar Kalinowski:exclusive to our story and exactly how it went, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:So please share this as a family.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then also, would you do me a favor and share the episode with other people, you know, that are trying to learn how to live on mission as a family, increasingly make discipleship a lifestyle.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's pretty easy to do, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:You can just, you know, go to the Facebook group, you'll see the post, grab the link to that and share it in your Facebook group, or you can come to our website.
Caesar Kalinowski:Everyday Disciple.
Caesar Kalinowski:com and go to the podcast section there.
Caesar Kalinowski:Any of these episodes, you can just go to the page, grab that URL up top, boom, and then share it in your Facebook group.
Caesar Kalinowski:It'll put a little picture there, everything, it's all super easy, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, before we go much further, I want to give you the big three takeaways from this episode, like we always do, kind of, condense down a few things I don't, I don't want you to miss and you can get these big three kind of written out for you in case you're at the gym or driving or whatever, don't feel like writing, I'll send it to you in a printable pdf.
Caesar Kalinowski:All you have to do is go to everydaydisciple.
Caesar Kalinowski:com forward slash big three b i g three, okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:And we'll send those to you, okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:So here's the first thing, here's the first of the big three.
Caesar Kalinowski:Your home is not your refuge.
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus is oftentimes we can start to hide out in our homes and become pretty isolated with others and we kind of go to work and do all the things that are quote required or we have to or supposed to and then we come home and isolate we begin to think that our home is our safe place from others and stress and potential conflict and we can set up unnecessary Maybe selfish boundaries that are really designed to meet our selfish needs and we call them balance, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Remember, Jesus is our refuge and the one we can find our identity, strength, and our wisdom for this journey and discipling from.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, that's where we find it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus, He's our refuge.
Caesar Kalinowski:Second, number two, your fear of what others think about you may be keeping you from living as a family on mission and making disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I just want you to hear this.
Caesar Kalinowski:God is the most glorious one in the universe and he loves you completely.
Caesar Kalinowski:And he proved that at the cross.
Caesar Kalinowski:He gave his life for us, for you, for me.
Caesar Kalinowski:You are his dearly loved and perfectly loved son or daughter.
Caesar Kalinowski:Let that soak in a second.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, your dearly loved child of his.
Caesar Kalinowski:You don't have to fear what others think about your not so perfect home, or your cooking, or your kids, or I'm tired after work, or, you know, any of it, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:It's his opinion.
Caesar Kalinowski:of you that matters most and he loves you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Believing that God loves us regardless of our missional performance, sort of quote unquote, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, how we've been doing, how we feel about whatever, but believing he loves us regardless sets us free to trust him for who he wants us to bless and start to treat as part of our family.
Caesar Kalinowski:And number three, Um, this is sort of rubber meets the road stuff, and this is for serious disciple makers who you're hearing this and you're moved by this, these last couple episodes.
Caesar Kalinowski:Make a list of everything that would keep you and your family from living an open door lifestyle with others right now.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like really, be honest, you're not gonna post this on the internet, be honest, make a list of everything that would keep you from living more like what we've been talking about in this episode.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then pray and ask God to show you if these barriers are things that He has placed in your life.
Caesar Kalinowski:Busyness, fear, shyness, schedule, lack of love, probably not gonna find that He did.
Caesar Kalinowski:Then ask Him to replace these things with new, Loving rhythms of openness and hope that would increasingly show others his love, acceptance, and freedom, okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:And, by the way, if you're interested in being in a coaching and mentorship relationship with Tina and I, we would love to do that.
Caesar Kalinowski:We'd love to teach you a lifestyle of discipleship and mission and how to be a family on mission.
Caesar Kalinowski:We really want you to start experiencing greater spiritual freedom and relational peace today, alright?
Caesar Kalinowski:You can find out all the information and get a hold of us by going to everydaydisciple.
Caesar Kalinowski:com forward slash coaching.
Caesar Kalinowski:Alright, I hope that all of this is helpful, I hope you've been super, super encouraged by it, and again, maybe a little challenged, I'll bet, alright?
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey, next week on the podcast, this episode will be out on Monday, I'm going to talk about how there is no should or shouldn't in the gospel.
Caesar Kalinowski:There's only we get to and we need not.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we're going to go deep into some of the things that we kind of place on ourselves and others that might actually not be good or grace filled.
Caesar Kalinowski:and aren't helping us live on mission and make disciples.
Caesar Kalinowski:I hope you'll join me for that.
Caesar Kalinowski:I hope you have a great week or weekend or whatever till then.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'll talk to you soon.
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