Water plays a crucial role in our existence and is a powerful symbol throughout the Bible, representing cleansing, renewal, and the relationship between humanity and God. Pastor Bob Thibodeau invites Scott Wright back to the Kingdom Crossroads podcast to explore the significance of water from Genesis to Revelation, highlighting its presence in key biblical events such as the flood, the parting of the Red Sea, and Jesus' baptism. The discussion delves into how water symbolizes the cleansing of sin and the process of spiritual renewal, especially through baptism. As they examine the implications of water in the context of the end times, they emphasize the potential for water shortages and contamination as signs meant to draw people closer to repentance. The conversation ultimately encourages listeners to prepare spiritually for the challenges ahead, reinforcing the importance of maintaining a close relationship with God.

Takeaways:

• Water is essential for life and is symbolically significant throughout the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation.
• Baptism represents cleansing and renewal, symbolizing the passing away of the old self.
• In the end times, water will become scarce and contaminated, leading to severe consequences.
• God uses the events of the end times to call people to repentance and recognition of Him.
• The relationship between water and our spiritual walk emphasizes the need for cleansing from sin.
• Understanding the ecological impact of water shortages can help us prepare for future crises.

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Hello, everyone everywhere.

Pastor Robert Thibodeau here.

Welcome to the Kingdom Crossroads podcast today.

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Have you ever considered how important water is to our existence?

Over 70% of the Earth is water.

Our bodies are made up mostly of water.

We need water to survive.

People can go weeks without eating, but only a couple of days without water.

Have you ever noticed the importance God places on water?

I mean, from Genesis to Revelation, water is mentioned in every book of the Bible, from the flood of Noah to the parting of the Red Sea, from the baptism of Jesus in the Jordan river to Jesus walking on water, from the storms that tried to kill Jesus and the disciples to the storms that tried to kill Paul.

Even the book of Revelation discusses the turbulent seas that'll be taking place, destroying ships and all that.

Why all of this focus on water in the Bible?

Well, that's why I invited our great friend Scott Wright back again today to answer that question.

Praise God.

Help me.

Welcome back to the program, Scott Wright.

Scott, it's a blessing to have you back up with us today.

Hey, great to be here and look forward to some more fun, fruitful discussions.

Amen.

So I forgot one of the most important uses for water, one that literally Pastor Bob would not be able to survive, and that's to have a sip of coffee.

So why water?

So, first of all, hey, it's just great to be here on the show.

And, you know, I, as I thought about the subject water, and was just reading some different passages.

Water is these.

It's, it's.

It's like the essential ingredient that connects everything.

It does.

Your body's made up of mostly water.

The earth is mostly made up of water.

Everything needs water to be nourished or it dries up.

And it's also when we are baptized into the family of God, water is the symbol because we're usually either dunked or the head's wetted or whatever.

And, you know, it's the symbol of removing the old and a sense of renewal when we once were cleansed with the water.

So it's, it's that whole image of that, but it's not just the image.

It's also, it's the refreshment of it.

So, yeah, you know, when we drink water, it filters out the bad.

Yeah.

And it refreshes and makes us new again.

Even when we just take a drink of water, it from that very basic thing to hey, our salvation.

Water is a symbol of the passing of the old and the washing it off and you becoming new when you come out of the water.

Amen.

Amen.

So how does water, what does water have to do with our relationship with God?

I mean, we, we're just supposed to be able to say, you know, in Christ, I'm saved.

But how does water draw us closer to that?

So let's, yeah, let's look at this from the standpoint of the temple first.

When the Israelites, when the priest, after they were done with the sacrifices and they were going to go into the holy place, they would wash their feet in their hands and then they would go in and there would be the water basin.

That was actually a big deal.

And it was.

God had, had instructed Moses that he wanted this and it was for that very purpose, but was symbolism to that.

And it's again, it's the washing off of the sacrifice.

And now I'm going to be walking in clean into the holy place before the Lord and before I enter his place and understand the tabernacle, the temple, once it was built as the temple is a representation of the heavenly throne on earth.

So God wants them washed up.

Jesus washed the feet of the disciples for the very same reason he was claiming them to be his priests.

That's what he was doing when he washed their feet.

You know, there's lots of acts of service he could have done.

I mean, let's face it, there's.

There's tons of acts of service.

And he talks about and that's talked about and a lot of times presented that way.

But it was also he was washing their feet to prepare them to go into the holy place, meaning to prepare them when they would receive the Holy Spirit, that they had been washed.

And it's funny how that is brought up because they are showing, basically they're showing the Jews later on when that's written in the Gospels, that this is that symbol.

That's one of the symbols.

You know, there's the sacrifice, there's the washing, there's going into the holy place and all these other pieces.

So that water is a big deal in our relationship.

Water is the symbol of clean, of being cleansed.

It is.

And for us to walk in Christ and to walk in holiness, we have to be cleansed of our sins.

And so the water is a resemble of washing the sins away and being renewed and refreshed.

Just like when we're feeling dry and parched inside, water refreshes us.

It's the same thing.

It's, it's filtering out the old junk.

Because that eventually is what water does, is it?

It basically filters out the toxins, it starts that process and then we're refreshed.

It's the same thing with baptism.

We are.

I was going to say what.

Why does water play such an important role in baptism?

And you couldn't just say, okay, you're saved, but to go through the baptism of being dunked in water.

So that is a public demonstration of your faith and that you are saying goodbye to the old as you're being dunked in.

And then the water cleanses the old off and then when you come out, you're renewed into the new.

And basically that you've received Christ.

That's what that represents.

Yep.

You know, before I go into the water, I'm not saved.

Is, is kind of the thinking and it's a representation of what you've already done, receiving Christ by expressing as an act of your will your faith in him.

Going in as you go in, it's being washed off of you, the old self.

And in the ancient times, you know, Jesus's day and all that, baptism was not just a one and done thing.

No, they were baptized.

You know, you got engaged, you're baptized.

When marriage ceremony took place, you got baptized rabbis, you know, when you entered the rabbinical school, you got baptized.

Once you graduated to enter your ministry, you got baptized.

Baptism was not, oh yeah, I did that when I was 12 type thing is like, you know, that's why he, Jesus had to go see John.

You know, he said, I need to be baptized by you.

What are you coming to me for?

He goes, we need to do this.

Exactly.

I have to be baptized into this ministry.

And you are recognized as a prophet of God.

You need to do this, you know, Amen.

And, and you know, it worked because when he came up out of the water, God said, that'll work.

Yep.

This is my son in whom I am well pleased.

That's right.

Amen.

You know, I remember at Bible school we had an instructor and someone asked a question, yeah, well, you should.

You just immerse Them, pull them back.

Oh, how long, you know, if you're going to baptize someone, how, you know, does it matter how long they're under the water stuff?

He says, well, I like hold them under till they bubble just to give that sense of, hey, you're saved.

No kidding.

Because they're gasping for air.

When I pull them back up, I say, you're saved.

I don't forget that.

Well, I'll hold them down till they bubble.

So how will water impact the end times?

Well, because first of all, the water is going to be contaminated.

We're going to have, we're going to have a situation where water is going to be contaminated and it's going to become bitter and it is not going to be drinkable.

Yep.

So there's, there's one thing.

And again, that very thing that we rely on for our daily, really multi.

Daily nourishment is going to start being stripped away.

We're gonna have, there's going to be situations where a lot of the things in the ocean are going to be killed because the water goes bad.

So there's, you know, without getting just immense detail here, those, those things that we rely on, water being one of the, one of the main primaries, the things that we rely on, they're going to start being stripped away.

And what God is trying to do is to get people to repent.

You know that I think so many times we look at the end times with these events and we focus on the horror of the events, but we need to focus on the purpose of them.

And the purpose is to lead to repentance.

And then, of course, if repentance happens, then we baptize them as a symbol of that well.

God is starting to strip away the elements of the world is what he's doing.

And water being one of them during those end times.

Because people won't repent.

Yeah.

And a lot of people just take water for granted.

They do.

Oh yeah.

Back 100 years ago, 150 years ago here in the United States, when you move, we'll just say move west and okay, this is the land.

I'm gonna.

The first thing you did was try and dig a well.

It's the first thing.

Or you had a stream going by, but you still wanted to get a well.

But you know, we know from reading the Bible, last day is gonna be pretty.

They're gonna be pretty.

Some pretty tough times.

They are.

I share with people.

It's gonna be a lot harder than you can even imagine.

I mean, you know, they're Talking about, you know, these EMPs and stuff like that, because that allow the enemy to.

To knock out all the infrastructure without really killing the people, you know, and take out.

I've seen some studies on it, says that it'll take out one EMP detonated in the atmosphere above central United States.

Would take out the entire electric grid.

Yep.

I mean, you can have your own generator and all that stuff, but guess what?

@ amp will fry every electrical circuit and cars and everything, including generators.

And the government says it's just not going to be a few days.

It's going to take decades to restore the electrical grid.

Decades.

You know, we see how people react when power goes out for two, three, seven days.

Imagine if it went out for decades.

People in high rises, no ac, you know, in the humid hot summers of south Louisiana and stuff like that, or no, no heater up in Nome, Alaska.

You know, I mean, this.

It's.

It's gonna be devastating.

It is.

And the reason I bring that up, it's illegal in most places right now for people to have their own wells.

You have to rely on the water pipes to bring you to water.

Well, as people find out, when the power goes out, the pumps don't work.

Yep.

Which means no water.

Imagine that happens because it will happen.

Yeah, the Bible says it will happen.

And, and when that time comes, the government's going to say, hey, you know, we're doing the best we can, but really, you're on your own right now.

I mean, imagine that chaos we didn't even talk about, you know, can't pump gas, which means the trucks don't drive and, you know, the trucks don't run anyway because the EMP knocked them out.

So there's no food in the grocery stores or nothing.

That's what the end times will look like, you know.

So again, share with us the importance of that.

God's sharing with us in his word about water and how all that relates to the end times.

Well, let's just look at Revelation, chapter 8.

You go to verse 10.

The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water.

The name of the star is wormwood.

A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.

And so relating that to what you just said, we have the Western, not just the western world, but much of the world now has been civilized in very much the way you described.

Everybody is reliant upon basically the government and how Everything is set up to function with the water the way, the way we do sanitation and water movement and plumbing and, and how all of that is set up.

Electrical grids and all these things.

Well, guess what?

These waters are going to turn bitter and when people drink them, it's going to kill them.

Right in that time frame.

But so bad water is not good.

I mean it is a, it's going to lead to this type of situation.

So we're going to have things that happen like this.

And we're talking a third, I want people to think of this, a third of the rivers and springs of water.

Let that soak in for a couple of minutes.

Not to use the pun, soaking with water here as we talk about it, but let that soak in.

We're talking a third of all the fresh water on Earth.

Think about that.

Amen.

You talk, you talk about a panic.

You know, one of the most dangerous places on Earth is the border of India and Pakistan.

You have two nuclear powers and there's limited water.

Yeah.

You're talking about two of the biggest population centers in the world.

Two of the biggest, most populated countries in the world and India being the first.

Now they've surpassed China and Pakistan being I think in the top like six or seven.

And you look at those populations and they're sitting on borders with limited water.

Yeah.

So imagine a fight over water.

You're going to fight over water before you are oil.

Yeah, I was going to say people keep talking about the oil wars.

Well, we're going to have water wars and we've, we've experienced them here in the United States, you know, the western.

Part of the United.

Yeah.

In the west part of the United States.

They're right now talking about starting to dig more wells and having to do more things to do water.

They're working harder now to figure out cheaper ways to take seawater and turn it into fresh water.

They are, because that's become an issue.

I mean Los Angeles could not have existed until they built all the waterways to come into LA to supply water to that area.

Yeah.

And way upstream and you know, Colorado and Utah and all that.

They'll build a dam to help their people out in infrastructure wise and all that.

And boy, does California get mad.

Yes.

They'll take them to court and everything else.

You can't do that.

You know, it's a thousand miles from you.

Yeah.

Might not be that far, might be 4 or 500 miles, but still, point being, it's impacting them.

Yes.

And there is going to be water shortages and bad water, which is going to lead to more water shortages during this time because of the things that are going to happen.

And, and I mean the, the trumpets being sounded.

The third trumpet is about making the waters bitter.

And so.

And then what happens when the oceans are struck and the fish start dying?

I think it's what, a fourth of all the, the living creatures in the ocean.

So imagine how people rely on that for their way of life.

Eating fish, eating all that.

Yeah.

Because what, remember there's no grocery stores.

People be going fishing, hunting, you know.

I mean, the water, that's where the ocean water comes in.

So, you know, one of the big, you know, one of the biggest.

People talk about the environmentalists with the air and all the stuff nowadays and we, we hear about that stuff.

There's actually one environmental issue that's that we know is real, that has to.

And they are dealing with it and that's the cleaning up of the oceans.

It's the trash in the oceans.

And that's become a massive, massive undertaking.

Why?

Because I want you to think about this and I think, we think in water in terms of drinking, but water affects weather.

If the water dries up, it's going to stop raining.

Yeah.

You know, our storm systems dump rain and fresh water back on the earth to replenish it.

Those storm systems are built through humidity that comes from the lakes, the rivers, the humidity that comes from the oceans, mainly.

So imagine things being dried up or that water going bad.

Now that bad water, when it does rain, it's raining bad water on the Earth.

Acid rain, stuff like that.

Yeah.

I mean, we've, and we've experienced that on, in small quantities.

Now imagine this being done on a massive scale.

The impact, it's ecological, okay.

It's not just drinking, it's everything.

Your crops are nourished by water.

You know, you, you make, like you said, you make your coffees and your teas and all your drinks.

Water manufacturers, what do they have to have to make about?

Almost everything.

Everything.

Yeah.

They have to have some element of water involved.

Yeah.

I mean, hey, even nuclear power.

That's right.

You have to have heavy water.

So water is involved in the process.

Water is involved in everything.

And when we start stripping that down, whether it's being dried up, whether it's being contaminated and either one of those things or both at the same time.

Imagine the ecological, natural disasters, it's going to create.

And we're not talking natural disasters and hurricanes and tornadoes.

We're talking eco.

We're not talking like a tornado ripping up part of a town.

We're talking ecological issues across an expanse.

It's going to affect billions of people.

Yeah, well, that's directly at the moment.

Yeah, some directly at the moment and others down the road.

It's.

It's almost like a nuclear bomb.

It not only kills the people in the epicenter instantly, but all the radiation poisoning that impacts people indirectly for years and years and years, it's going to have that.

That type of impact, maybe even larger.

Yeah.

And I think a lot of people.

Will say, well, why would God do something like that to, you know, punish innocent people?

Well, one, we're not innocent.

There's no innocent people.

That's right.

But two, he's not doing it as punishment.

He's doing to get your attention.

That's what the Bible says.

He wants to get your attention, to get you to turn to Christ, recognize what's happening.

And he says, but yet instead of repenting, the people curse God for what?

Yep.

You know, and, and it's funny how.

Is not gonna end well.

And it's funny how it seems in the book of Revelation the way it always.

Every time I read it, I'm always looking for new tidbits and nuggets and pieces.

But the thing that always stands out to me is that in some way, form or fashion, for some reason, in the different of different events that have happened, these people know that it is God that is doing this.

Yeah.

So some things are going to happen beforehand that these people are going to know this is God.

Like, there's not going to be any more doubts as far as this is God.

So why are you not repenting?

Because think about this.

Even no matter what your life is like on earth, what do you, what do you have?

Maybe 70, 80, 90 years.

Very few people get to 90.

Right.

Okay.

But we're talking about an eternity.

So here's how I always like to put this in perspective.

I heard this said when I was in college and I listened to somebody speak one time about this.

They were talking about hell, but they said, you will have 10 spent 10,000 years there and not have one less second to spend than when you started.

Yeah, that's eternity.

So our focus, as Paul says in Philippians three, our citizenship is in heaven and we need to set our mind on those things.

We need to set our things on mind, our minds on the things above, not on earthly things.

So Regardless of what your life is like here, there's an eternity waiting for you one way or the other.

And you have to make a choice.

God does not send anybody to hell.

Hell was designed.

I'm going to say this, and I say this over and over.

Hell was designed for Satan and the demons.

It was not designed for man.

Man plunged himself into that when he sinned and rebelled against God.

You choose to go there by rejecting Christ.

Yeah.

Plain and simple.

There is nothing else.

That's why Jesus said, I'm the way, the truth, and the life.

No one comes to the Father except through me.

It is all through him.

God gave us the gift to pay the penalty that we were never supposed to have in the first place.

Yeah.

And we.

Because we weren't supposed to rebel, and we did.

And that rebellion led to the fact that you can go, you can be separated from God.

And that is what it is.

It is separation from God for eternity.

That's what death.

Yep.

Separated from God.

Amen.

Amen.

Scott, that's been so interesting.

I can keep going, but once again, we're up against the clock.

I mean, if someone has a question or they'd like to reach out to you for more information or maybe do an interview like this, how can they do that?

How can someone get in touch with you?

Amen.

We're doing a relaunch.

We're gonna have a YouTube channel.

We're gonna try to keep some things on Spotify, Apple, podcast as well.

And we are getting really close to some things that, some written material that we're going to have ready, too.

We've, we're, we've got at least.

We already got two books past the rough draft stage.

I've got another training, discipleship training, real discipleship training.

40 lessons on how to disciple and be discipled.

That is going to be finished by the end of this year.

Praise God.

Amen.

Amen.

So I'll put all that information down the show notes, folks.

Everything Scott's been sharing with us is going to happen.

The Bible says so it will happen.

The only question is, will you be prepared?

You can't prepare for a water shortage, the food shortage, the violence you can prepare for, you to be spared.

Amen.

You and your family needs to be prepared.

You need to become a prepper.

Not in the traditional sense of the word used today.

You need to Prepare to meet Jesus, preferably in the air.

Amen.

Not at the judgment seat.

Drop down the show notes.

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Get in touch with Scott Wright.

Get him on your podcast, get them on your radio program.

Stay in touch.

Ask him questions.

He'll get back with you.

Praise God.

Folks, this is the day and time in which we live.

We are reminded to look up for our redemption is drawing near.

You watch the news and all you can see it's drawing nearer every single day.

Amen.

Scott, I appreciate you taking the time out of your schedule and joining us again today, bro.

Hey, it's great to be on the show and look forward to another another fun discussion next time.

Amen, folks.

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