Selling your own products can be a tough journey, with nearly 50% of creators earning less than $10,000 a year and many struggling for years without seeing a single dollar. This episode reveals the harsh realities of monetizing content, highlighting the significant disparities in earnings across platforms like TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube.
However, there's a glimmer of hope with Pensight, a platform that offers affordable tools for creators to sell digital products, coaching, and more without the hefty fees associated with other services like Kajabi. With Pensight's $29 monthly plan and a free trial option, creators can test their ideas and start earning with minimal upfront investment. Join Dave Jackson as he delves into the complexities of content monetization and introduces Pensight as a potential game-changer for aspiring entrepreneurs.
As Kajabi is $169/month and Pensight is $29/month Kajabi is over 400% higher. You can sell products on the free plan on Pensight to get proof of concept.
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If you want to sell your own stuff, the company Kajabi thinks you need a reality check.
Dave Jackson:Yeah.
Dave Jackson:Welcome to Profit from youm Podcast.
Dave Jackson:Proven Strategies to Turn listeners into a Livelihood.
Dave Jackson:Here's your host, Dave Jackson.
Dave Jackson:So I just saw this page on Kajabi, and if you're new to Kajabi, it is kind of the Cadillac, or at least as seen as the Cadillac of the all in one tool.
Dave Jackson:It does email marketing, it does landing pages, it does courses, it does everything.
Dave Jackson:It slices, it dices, it even juliennes.
Dave Jackson:And they came out with this report that said it's a reality check.
Dave Jackson:So they had all these stats and hang tight, because I got one stat that is not from Kajabi that I don't think they would like, but it said nearly 50% of creators earn less than $10,000 in a single year.
Dave Jackson:And I'll have a link to where you can read this.
Dave Jackson:For every $100 that TikTok earns, how much do you think of that goes to the actual, you know, creator?
Dave Jackson:You ready?
Dave Jackson:$6.25.
Dave Jackson:That's pretty horrible.
Dave Jackson:Who do you think you are, Spotify?
Dave Jackson:Geez.
Dave Jackson:Nearly a quarter of creators grind for two years before seeing a single dollar.
Dave Jackson:That's 730 days without a paycheck.
Dave Jackson:And I would say that's true.
Dave Jackson:I usually tell people three years, not before you make a single dollar, but before you start making serious money.
Dave Jackson:The percentage of revenue that creators keep, well, on Instagram, that would be zero.
Dave Jackson:On YouTube, it's 55%.
Dave Jackson:And on, of course, Kajabi, it's a hundred percent.
Dave Jackson:That is, of course, after you pay them 80 bucks, a single TikTok view is only worth on average.00,004.
Dave Jackson:So that is a fraction of a cent.
Dave Jackson:So yes, this is probably one of those where like you can make money from day one.
Dave Jackson:Yeah, as long as you don't mind making.000.
Dave Jackson:They say on average Kajabi creators earned.
Dave Jackson:And this is of course with a thousand subscribers annually, which is not something easy to do, by the way.
Dave Jackson:577% more than Instagram creators.
Dave Jackson:Well, they just said Instagram, you make zero.
Dave Jackson:So how do you end up with, okay, 357% more than TikTok creators and 288% more than YouTube creators.
Dave Jackson:Now, anytime somebody quotes me percentage, I always kind of want to go, what are the numbers on that?
Dave Jackson:And so for instance, if I make a dollar and you make $5, that is a 400% increase.
Dave Jackson:So it sounds impressive, but in the end it's four bucks.
Dave Jackson:Kajabi creators can earn $100,000.
Dave Jackson:Notice there, the word is can not do.
Dave Jackson:But they can create $100,000 by converting 350 customers.
Dave Jackson:So let's do the math on that, shall we?
Dave Jackson:So wait a minute.
Dave Jackson:So if I am making, what is it again?
Dave Jackson:$100,000.
Dave Jackson: So: Dave Jackson:And if we divide that by 350, that means whatever product we're selling is $28 or $29.
Dave Jackson:And then of course the question is, well, how many downloads do you have to have to get?
Dave Jackson:350 people to sign up.
Dave Jackson:And if you use my stat of 3%, that's 11,667 downloads per episode.
Dave Jackson:There are 200 million creators on social platforms and 0% of them own their channel.
Dave Jackson:Then this is one of their big points.
Dave Jackson:And I agree with this.
Dave Jackson:If you're on YouTube and we're going to talk about this and you get kicked off, you're kind of screwed.
Dave Jackson:They say 40, 42% of YouTubes of their high earning creators would lose about, well, 50,000 plus a year if they lost access to YouTube.
Dave Jackson:So you know, if you get kicked off, don't say booger.
Dave Jackson:They get mad when you say booger.
Dave Jackson:38% of Instagram of their high earning creators, which again I still.
Dave Jackson:How do you earn when you get to keep 0%?
Dave Jackson:But okay, you're, you're earning through other things.
Dave Jackson:I'm assuming sponsored spots and stuff.
Dave Jackson:Again, 50,000 plus and 37% of high earning creators would lose 50,000 plus on TikTok.
Dave Jackson:All right, so now this is, I've never really been a huge Kajabi fan.
Dave Jackson:I know many people that use it and they really like it.
Dave Jackson:And so it's not because it's a bad product, I just think it's overpriced.
Dave Jackson:So let's say we're going monthly.
Dave Jackson: ord this now it's November in: Dave Jackson:Now they say zero transaction fees.
Dave Jackson:Yeah, because you just gave them 160 bucks.
Dave Jackson:We have unlimited landing pages, unlimited marketing emails, 25,000 contacts and 15 products in one website.
Dave Jackson:So I get that.
Dave Jackson:But again there is a limit.
Dave Jackson:You can have 10,000 active customers.
Dave Jackson:That would be really, I don't think you're ever going to run out of that.
Dave Jackson:And so when I looked at this and I'm like, okay, 160 bucks.
Dave Jackson:And like I said, I know people that use Kajabi and they think it's great, but I'm just saying there are other services and I'm going to actually launch a small course on a tool called Switchy and I'm going to use Pensite for this.
Dave Jackson:And why?
Dave Jackson:Because you get to sell digital products.
Dave Jackson:You can sell coaching, one to one sessions, unlimited courses, unlimited kind of bundles.
Dave Jackson:You can sell group events, you can do video Q&As, you can do memberships, These are all built in.
Dave Jackson:You can do group programs and payment plans, subscription payments, pay what you want.
Dave Jackson:You can drip a course, you can accelerated payouts, custom intake forms.
Dave Jackson:You can have comments in your courses, which kind of everybody does, but email broadcast, email automations, marketing automations, upselling funnels, and your own affiliate program, which Kajabi does as well.
Dave Jackson:You can have external links on your website, you can have text, video and images, you can collect emails.
Dave Jackson:I mean, I could go on and on.
Dave Jackson:And the fun part of this is they do have video calls, by the way.
Dave Jackson:This is really meant for coaches that sell digital products.
Dave Jackson:It integrates with your Google Calendar.
Dave Jackson:I did play with the free version of this and that was really impressive.
Dave Jackson:And when it comes to analytics, you can tie in Google Analytics.
Dave Jackson:They work with Zapier.
Dave Jackson:You can do the Metapixel, the TikTok, pixel, blah, blah.
Dave Jackson:Okay, Dave, enough.
Dave Jackson:What's the price for Pensite?
Dave Jackson:There's a seven day free trial and then it's, are you ready for this?
Dave Jackson:And it's almost that.
Dave Jackson:Okay, there's got to be something wrong with it.
Dave Jackson:Which is why I want to make a course just to put it on here.
Dave Jackson:It's $29 a month.
Dave Jackson:Yeah.
Dave Jackson:And I'm like, wait, what?
Dave Jackson:$29 a month?
Dave Jackson:And Kajabi was what, 160 when it's not on sale?
Dave Jackson:And so I appreciate the work that Kajabi went into, explaining how the best way to make money with your podcast is to sell your own stuff, sell your own products and services, coaching services, all these different ways that, you know, you could basically have a group event, sell tickets to it, and then take the finished video file and sell that as a digital product.
Dave Jackson:And when I saw it, I was like, I really thought, oh, this is probably one of those places where you have to go get like a Venmo account, not Venmo, Vimeo account.
Dave Jackson:Or use YouTube for the hosting.
Dave Jackson:Nope, hosting's built in.
Dave Jackson:Oh, then there's gotta be a limit on the number of courses.
Dave Jackson:Nope, it's just every time I think what's the catch?
Dave Jackson:There isn't one.
Dave Jackson:They do have a $99 a month plan, but all it basically does is they will basically move your courses for you and you get a bi weekly call with a growth manager.
Dave Jackson:So if you want some coaching, I guess.
Dave Jackson:But I just, I couldn't believe it.
Dave Jackson:So I thought when I saw this, I'm like, well, good on Kajabi for pointing this out.
Dave Jackson:The only thing for me is I still think Kajabi is overpriced when you got things like Pensite.
Dave Jackson:So when it comes time to make money with your podcast, I will say it over and over, the number one way to do it.
Dave Jackson:Not that the other ways are bad, but the most profitable.
Dave Jackson:In fact, I did some math.
Dave Jackson:I was speaking at a podcast event, Pod Indy this weekend and if I sold one course to one student for 99 bucks, if I was doing the programmatic ads, I would have to have 25,000 downloads to be the equivalent of selling one course to one student for 99 bucks.
Dave Jackson:If you've never sold a product or if you're not sure somebody wants your product, in just a second I'm going to tell you why Penn site is an amazing choice.
Dave Jackson:What I love about this is yes, they have a free plan that still lets you charge.
Dave Jackson:Now they're going to take 3% and some of the extra like payment options.
Dave Jackson:But if you just want to sell something for one fee, like, hey, it's 19 bucks pay here, you can do this.
Dave Jackson:So why is that so amazing?
Dave Jackson:If you have a product and you're like, I think I could sell this.
Dave Jackson:I'm not really sure.
Dave Jackson:You could easily set it up here on their free plan and then just pay them the 3%, they'll host the file, all the above.
Dave Jackson:It's a great way to test an idea.
Dave Jackson:It is proof of concept.
Dave Jackson:When you have people start to buy, then you can pay the 29 bucks a month and get all the other bells and whistles to really put some fire on this thing.
Dave Jackson:But when I saw that, I was like, that's amazing.
Dave Jackson:So I have links, by the way, there is an affiliate program for Pensite.
Dave Jackson:There is an affiliate program for Kajabi.
Dave Jackson:I'm just not part of that because kind of in true Kajabi fashion, you have to pay to be an affiliate.
Dave Jackson:But I'm not promoting Penn site because they have an affiliate.
Dave Jackson:I'm promoting them because somebody said, hey, have you ever heard of this?
Dave Jackson:This looks too good to be true.
Dave Jackson:And when I went over and did some research I was like, this is kind of too good to be true.
Dave Jackson:And then I saw at the bottom of the page, they have an affiliate.
Dave Jackson:So if you use that, I earn a small commission and it doesn't cost you a dime.
Dave Jackson:If you're interested in making more money from your podcast, check out the book profit from your podcast by going to profitfromyourpodcast.com book as I get done, right now, I'm going over to record another chapter in the audiobook.
Dave Jackson:I'm Dave Jackson.
Dave Jackson:I help podcasters.
Dave Jackson:It's what I do, and I can't wait to see what we're going to do together.