Gift biz unwrapped episode 336.
Speaker:And where e-commerce is really going to help is that you
Speaker:can do everything from your home and you can continue to
Speaker:sell things online.
Speaker:Even while you're at a farmer's market Attention.
Speaker:Gifters bakers,
Speaker:crafters, and makers pursuing your dream can be fun.
Speaker:Whether you have an established business or looking to start one.
Speaker:Now you are in the right place.
Speaker:This is gift to biz unwrapped,
Speaker:helping you turn your skill into a flourishing business.
Speaker:Join us for an episode,
Speaker:packed full of invaluable guidance,
Speaker:resources, and the support you need to grow.
Speaker:Your gift biz.
Speaker:Here is your host gift biz gal,
Speaker:Sue moon Heights.
Speaker:Hi there,
Speaker:it's Sue and welcome to this week's show today.
Speaker:I'm going to give you a new option to get support
Speaker:for the many,
Speaker:many things you have to do in your business.
Speaker:But before we get into that,
Speaker:I want to give you an update on what's going on
Speaker:in my private Facebook community gift biz breeze.
Speaker:It's time to update the buzz book.
Speaker:And if you're interested in being included,
Speaker:now's the time to submit your information.
Speaker:It's totally free.
Speaker:The buzz book is a compilation of small handmade business owners
Speaker:like you and provides a way for you to support each
Speaker:other. You can do this of course,
Speaker:by purchasing from one another,
Speaker:but it goes deeper than that.
Speaker:The main goal is to provide a way to connect with
Speaker:people who make similar products to yours so that you can
Speaker:discuss the nuances of your industry.
Speaker:It's a way to easily find and get in touch with
Speaker:fellow Breezers,
Speaker:who are also in your local area.
Speaker:So you can get together for coffee or even establish a
Speaker:formal schedule for networking or meetups.
Speaker:It's also a way to create collaborations.
Speaker:I've seen local brick and mortar shops reach out to regional
Speaker:makers to display their products in store,
Speaker:helping increase visibility for both of them.
Speaker:I've also watched Breezers get together and do virtual shopping shows,
Speaker:offering different,
Speaker:but compatible products,
Speaker:thereby getting exposure to each other's audiences and let's face it.
Speaker:This going live thing is a whole lot easier when you
Speaker:do it with somebody else,
Speaker:the things we can do together through our connections is far
Speaker:greater than what we can achieve on our own.
Speaker:And the buzz book facilitates that.
Speaker:And again,
Speaker:it's totally free for more details and to learn how to
Speaker:be listed.
Speaker:Join the gift biz breeze,
Speaker:Facebook group,
Speaker:all the details.
Speaker:Along with a video,
Speaker:talking more about the program are right there,
Speaker:separated in a special guide for easy access.
Speaker:Okay, let's move on to today's show covering how to be
Speaker:more efficient in your business,
Speaker:how to tackle all the things without it,
Speaker:having to be only doing it all the time.
Speaker:You need to be able to have a social life outside
Speaker:your business,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:and sometimes it feels like that's just absolutely impossible.
Speaker:Well, help is on the way I like to free flow
Speaker:the conversations.
Speaker:And in this chat,
Speaker:I do something I've never done before I create a fictitious
Speaker:company and we role-play through how this small business owner can
Speaker:use the solutions presented here to run her business easier and
Speaker:even more important most effectively so that she can produce the
Speaker:greatest results.
Speaker:I am really excited today to introduce you to Georgia UB
Speaker:Dolla of spring bot spring bot enables growing e-commerce businesses to
Speaker:manage their email marketing and paid advertising in a single platform.
Speaker:Georgia started with the company about two and a half years
Speaker:ago as an onboarding manager on the customer success side.
Speaker:In her role,
Speaker:she helped email businesses navigate the platform and consulted with them
Speaker:on marketing best practices.
Speaker:Today she's a lead senior account manager,
Speaker:working closely with clients to ensure they are maximizing the features
Speaker:available to them.
Speaker:On the spring bot platform.
Speaker:I learned about this program through one of my makers MBA
Speaker:VIP's so shout out to Sheila of heavenly treats for you.
Speaker:Once I researched spring bot,
Speaker:I knew that I wanted to bring this option to your
Speaker:attention too.
Speaker:So here we go,
Speaker:Georgia. Welcome to the gift biz on wrapped podcast.
Speaker:Thank You so much.
Speaker:Thank you for having me.
Speaker:I am really excited to dive into all my questions about
Speaker:spring bot.
Speaker:And like I said before,
Speaker:share with everybody what this is all about.
Speaker:But before we do,
Speaker:I have a traditional question that we do on every single
Speaker:show here.
Speaker:And that is to have you describe yourself different than I
Speaker:just did in your intro through a motivational candle.
Speaker:So if you were to create a candle that would speak
Speaker:to you with a color and some type of a quote
Speaker:or a motto,
Speaker:what would your candle look like?
Speaker:So my candle would probably smell something like a eucalyptus,
Speaker:a very calming scent.
Speaker:I tend to be very calm in stressful situations.
Speaker:So I enjoy having that in my home.
Speaker:It would probably be a white candle and the quote would
Speaker:be something like the pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity,
Speaker:but the optimist sees opportunity in every difficulty.
Speaker:And I think that's something that I always like to live
Speaker:life by not seeing situations as what's wrong with this,
Speaker:but more of an opportunity to try and fix it.
Speaker:And that's something that we also talk about a lot spring
Speaker:bought as a company.
Speaker:We always see problems as opportunities.
Speaker:We don't say we have an issue or something we need
Speaker:to fix.
Speaker:It's always spun around as a opportunity to improve and learn,
Speaker:Right. To be optimistic about being able to solve whatever the
Speaker:situation is.
Speaker:Right. I'm just curious.
Speaker:Do you think that people are programmed to be one way
Speaker:or another?
Speaker:I do think it's a mindset.
Speaker:It's hard for me too,
Speaker:because I feel like everyone else in my family is more
Speaker:of the pessimist side.
Speaker:So I don't know where I came out with the optimistic
Speaker:side of seeing situations,
Speaker:but I do think it's something that you learn.
Speaker:You either can be in a bad mood dealing with difficult
Speaker:situations, or you can take them in stride.
Speaker:So I prefer the latter.
Speaker:I agree.
Speaker:Well, we're going to get along famously because I am also
Speaker:a very optimistic and positive person,
Speaker:but I just think it with some of the people that
Speaker:I work with,
Speaker:I can categorize each and every one in one way or
Speaker:another. And just by observation,
Speaker:cause obviously I'm not in their heads,
Speaker:but I think that they just put up and it's a
Speaker:little bit more of a challenge if they think more glass,
Speaker:half empty type versus glass half fall.
Speaker:And that's really also interesting to hear that you guys have
Speaker:acknowledged that as a culture in spring bot to really approach
Speaker:things in that certain manner.
Speaker:So I'm already feeling really,
Speaker:really good about that.
Speaker:Okay. Share with me a little bit about your journey and
Speaker:what you did before spring bot and what attracted you to
Speaker:join the company.
Speaker:So I graduated with a PR and marketing degree.
Speaker:So my first job out of college was actually a public
Speaker:relations specialist at a food and beverage company.
Speaker:So we handled food and beverage clients from all around Atlanta
Speaker:and did their PR and their marketing.
Speaker:So it's similar to kind of where I'm at now in
Speaker:terms of,
Speaker:I worked closely with clients there,
Speaker:but it was a little bit more on the creative side,
Speaker:the PR side,
Speaker:because I would have to write press releases,
Speaker:draft social media posts and things like that.
Speaker:Whereas at spring bot I'm more consulting on those types of
Speaker:things. I'm consulting on what best practices are for your social
Speaker:media channels,
Speaker:what you should be doing in terms of marketing,
Speaker:how you should position your emails.
Speaker:And I'm not actually doing it for the customer.
Speaker:And I've,
Speaker:wasn't familiar with customer success until I came to spring bot,
Speaker:but I found that this is really the perfect role for
Speaker:me in terms of it's a combination of kind of what
Speaker:I was doing before and a little bit more of what
Speaker:I want to do,
Speaker:which is the consultative approach to helping businesses grow well.
Speaker:I love what you're saying,
Speaker:because from an experience background,
Speaker:you have done it.
Speaker:So I think your credibility and your understanding of what your
Speaker:customers are encountering,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:that more because you've already done that.
Speaker:You've been there versus someone who just comes in and is
Speaker:trained to do a certain task or is told what best
Speaker:practices are.
Speaker:All of that you've actually lived it.
Speaker:So I think bringing in that experience,
Speaker:and I didn't know that about you,
Speaker:so that's impressive.
Speaker:And just another good layer for our conversation here today.
Speaker:What was it about spring bot that made you look and
Speaker:say, yeah,
Speaker:this is where I want to spend hours and hours and
Speaker:hours of my life.
Speaker:Spring bot wins kind of the awards every year for best
Speaker:places to work.
Speaker:So that's something I was really looking for.
Speaker:Cause I was just looking for,
Speaker:I'm going to spend the majority of my time somewhere working.
Speaker:I want it to be somewhere where I enjoy somewhere where
Speaker:I feel supported somewhere where I can grow.
Speaker:And I have a clear career path and in my research
Speaker:of spring bot and then throughout the interviews that I did,
Speaker:I met with a lot of people from the team and
Speaker:everyone just talked about the company culture and how supportive the
Speaker:environment was.
Speaker:And so that's really what attracted me to spring bot in
Speaker:the first place was that,
Speaker:And you're still relatively new two and a half years ago.
Speaker:So you've got a lot of things that you can help
Speaker:impact as the company continues to grow.
Speaker:But spring park has been around for eight years.
Speaker:So we're a much newer company.
Speaker:We're still somewhat in the startup phase,
Speaker:kind of at the cusp of graduating from that startup field.
Speaker:From the time that I started at spring by I look
Speaker:back at what the platform looked like.
Speaker:The email tools we used to offer two and a half
Speaker:years ago are nowhere near what we offer.
Speaker:Now. We are constantly adding new features and we're constantly improving
Speaker:on certain things that happen with any growing technology business.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you're going to experience bugs,
Speaker:you're going to experience glitches.
Speaker:We take the feedback from our customers and work to improve
Speaker:the product.
Speaker:So it's a totally different product that it was when I
Speaker:even started Well in eight years,
Speaker:it is a young company and you're kind of in on
Speaker:the ground floor.
Speaker:They've got some things up and rolling by the time you
Speaker:entered in,
Speaker:but there's a lot of opportunity.
Speaker:I'm thinking for you to impact based on your past experience
Speaker:and where you see things going in the future,
Speaker:et cetera.
Speaker:So that's really exciting.
Speaker:And that's where one of my favorite aspects of the customer
Speaker:success role is,
Speaker:is that we are really on the front lines.
Speaker:We are the ones talking to customers day in and day
Speaker:out, and they are not shy about telling us their feedback
Speaker:on what's good and what's not.
Speaker:And it's our responsibility to really take that feedback back to
Speaker:the team.
Speaker:So are you guys hearing this from other customers seems to
Speaker:be something that they're really looking for.
Speaker:And then we take that back to our leadership team,
Speaker:back to the development team so that we can work on
Speaker:making a better product for our customers.
Speaker:So let's bring this down to the individual business owner level
Speaker:right now,
Speaker:I'm going to pretend like I'm someone coming to you and
Speaker:considering your services.
Speaker:I think that would be a fun way for us to
Speaker:share what spring bot is all about and make it really
Speaker:relatable to our listeners.
Speaker:Okay. So I make dog biscuits.
Speaker:I make them out of my house,
Speaker:my businesses growing.
Speaker:I have not hired any employees yet because that makes me
Speaker:super nervous,
Speaker:but I'm getting to the point where I'm probably going to
Speaker:need to,
Speaker:I might need to start looking at some help with making
Speaker:my products,
Speaker:but they're all natural.
Speaker:I want to keep control.
Speaker:So right now I am not planning on producing them through
Speaker:a factory,
Speaker:maybe some type of outside production place,
Speaker:but I want to keep control.
Speaker:I've done social media and kind of dabbling in Facebook and
Speaker:Instagram, no idea where Pinterest would fit in,
Speaker:but I don't have time for it.
Speaker:Anyway, I go out to craft shows and farmer's markets.
Speaker:That's the way I'm usually selling.
Speaker:Yeah, I know I'm supposed to be getting email addresses,
Speaker:but if I'm honest,
Speaker:I haven't done that.
Speaker:Well, maybe I have 20 people on my list.
Speaker:I'm not sure advertising.
Speaker:Why would I advertise?
Speaker:Like Facebook should be able to give me the ads for
Speaker:free. That's what I hear should be happening.
Speaker:And so I heard about spring bot,
Speaker:people are saying really good things about it,
Speaker:but I don't understand how it would apply to my business.
Speaker:So Georgia,
Speaker:can you help me out?
Speaker:Yes, you are really one of our ideal customers because you're
Speaker:at the cusp of growing beyond what you can do on
Speaker:your own.
Speaker:So you've done a great job at setting up some foundational
Speaker:tools like getting into those farmer's markets to start growing your
Speaker:brand awareness or selling your products.
Speaker:But you're not going to be able to go to farmer's
Speaker:markets all the time.
Speaker:And where e-commerce is really going to help is that you
Speaker:can do everything from your home and you can continue to
Speaker:sell things online while even while you're at a farmers.
Speaker:You're right.
Speaker:Because sometimes the weather interrupts and we have a bad show
Speaker:or certain times of the year,
Speaker:we don't even have farmer's markets in my area.
Speaker:So you're absolutely right.
Speaker:Imagine if something like a pandemic happens and you can't,
Speaker:that would Never happen.
Speaker:And all farmer's markets get shut down for a full year.
Speaker:People are relying on the e-commerce side of their business,
Speaker:more and more.
Speaker:And as a small business owner,
Speaker:time is money.
Speaker:So the biggest thing for you to do is implement some
Speaker:time-saving and cost-effective marketing tools into your marketing plan.
Speaker:You don't have to break your bank,
Speaker:spend thousands of dollars on a agency or hire a full-time
Speaker:person just yet.
Speaker:You can automate a lot of great features to help reach
Speaker:your audience,
Speaker:even when you are not physically at a farmer's market.
Speaker:That sounds interesting to me.
Speaker:And I also forgot to tell you,
Speaker:I do have a Shopify site,
Speaker:but I'm not really doing a lot with it.
Speaker:I have a couple of products up there.
Speaker:Not much traffic is coming to it.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it works fine.
Speaker:I probably could make it look nicer,
Speaker:but I do also have that,
Speaker:but it's not really doing anything for me either.
Speaker:So when we first take on customers,
Speaker:we really focus on what their site traffic is.
Speaker:The reason for that is site traffic.
Speaker:Pretty much determines how many sales you're going to get.
Speaker:To an extent.
Speaker:If you have a hundred people visiting your website a month,
Speaker:the amount of people you're going to convert from your website
Speaker:is much lower than if you had 5,000
Speaker:people coming to your website a month.
Speaker:So we approach all of our consultating on what types of
Speaker:features you should have in your package and what you should
Speaker:really be focusing your money on based on a pyramid.
Speaker:You first have to get people to your website.
Speaker:That is the biggest part of the marketing funnel.
Speaker:Once you start to drive new people to your website,
Speaker:then you need to start doing things like collecting emails,
Speaker:sending them automated emails,
Speaker:to continue to engage with them as they move up through
Speaker:the marketing funnel.
Speaker:So the marketing funnel starts out at the traffic level and
Speaker:kind of dives into the retargeting level where you're following people
Speaker:around. This is where,
Speaker:when you leave a website,
Speaker:you might get an email from them or you might get
Speaker:advertising on Facebook.
Speaker:That's the next step.
Speaker:Once you've built that traffic up and then the final step
Speaker:is to convert.
Speaker:So it takes a while to move people through the marketing
Speaker:funnel. Most,
Speaker:most consumers require 12 to 15 touch points before they actually
Speaker:convert. So it's important that you have a lot of automated
Speaker:tools in place to help reach them when you're not available
Speaker:to send them an email personally,
Speaker:or again,
Speaker:be at the farmer's market to really convince them to make
Speaker:that purchase.
Speaker:Okay. So now I'm going to revert back to myself because
Speaker:that was really hard during that kind of role-playing because I
Speaker:wanted to say some other things too.
Speaker:Okay. So now let's analyze this person.
Speaker:I think this could be interesting.
Speaker:So you were talking specifically about e-commerce,
Speaker:but this person who makes dog biscuits also has a lot
Speaker:of face-to-face presence.
Speaker:And gosh,
Speaker:I saw this in 20,
Speaker:20 all the time,
Speaker:like people were caught unaware because they were out face-to-face,
Speaker:that's what they love.
Speaker:That's part of the reason why they have their businesses,
Speaker:because interacting with people,
Speaker:getting that immediate payback,
Speaker:because they collect the money.
Speaker:There's no shipping,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:so they miss all of that.
Speaker:But now most people understand that they should have an e-commerce
Speaker:element to it as well.
Speaker:For all the reasons we already know.
Speaker:I don't have to restate them here because now things are
Speaker:starting up again.
Speaker:And we are going back out to shows and farmer's markets
Speaker:and all of that.
Speaker:Could I collect email addresses in my booth and add them
Speaker:into my email list?
Speaker:You should Absolutely do that.
Speaker:Okay. As long as I've told them that,
Speaker:that's what I'm doing.
Speaker:And I think the best way to do it is to
Speaker:offer some kind of prize and say,
Speaker:enter your email address,
Speaker:subscribe to our email list and have a chance to win
Speaker:something, because they're going to be more likely to put it
Speaker:in their email address if they have a little bit of
Speaker:an incentive.
Speaker:And they're also probably not going to say no to you,
Speaker:to your face.
Speaker:If they're looking at purchasing your product and you ask them
Speaker:for their email address,
Speaker:they're most likely when it's face to face,
Speaker:they're going to give it to you,
Speaker:right? Well,
Speaker:when they're a customer,
Speaker:they probably are going to give it.
Speaker:And legally you can add them to your email list.
Speaker:They've been a customer of yours,
Speaker:kind of thinking of the old cam spam act type thing.
Speaker:But if you do a sweepstakes,
Speaker:then you just make sure that you say enter the sweepstakes
Speaker:and then you'll also be added.
Speaker:So you'll see all the latest styles and new promotions,
Speaker:but somehow you have to have it stated somewhere that you're
Speaker:actually adding it.
Speaker:You just can't take lists of people because you have their
Speaker:email and add them in.
Speaker:You have to tell them what you're doing,
Speaker:right? Cause We also really want to focus on a healthy
Speaker:subscriber list.
Speaker:You don't want to do anything like we've seen customers come
Speaker:in with a huge email list and they say that they
Speaker:bought the email addresses.
Speaker:And then we asked them what their open rates are,
Speaker:unsubscribed rates and their open rates are at 1%,
Speaker:which is well below the industry average,
Speaker:which is usually around 15 to 20% on the open rates.
Speaker:And then the unsubscribed rates were really high.
Speaker:So when you get into a place where you're sending a
Speaker:lot of emails to people that are not engaging,
Speaker:so you have a really unhealthy list.
Speaker:It's really hard to get out of that because email providers
Speaker:like Gmail see you as Fanny.
Speaker:So now even people who subscribe to your newsletter might not
Speaker:be getting your emails because they might be going straight to
Speaker:the spam folder because you've been sending emails to a bad
Speaker:list. So that's something we always say to avoid.
Speaker:I don't buy lists first off for sure.
Speaker:Cause you don't know the quality of the list and honestly,
Speaker:a hundred dollar email list that is quality people who are
Speaker:really interested in your product is way better than a 5,000
Speaker:email list that you have no idea who those people are.
Speaker:Absolutely. For sure.
Speaker:That's the case.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So I have some emails and I'm going to attract them
Speaker:more. The shows that's really smart.
Speaker:And I,
Speaker:it's not that hard for me to do and let's face
Speaker:it. We've said this before.
Speaker:We've talked a lot about email marketing here already Georgia,
Speaker:but it's worth just to saying again,
Speaker:that people are very protective now over their emails.
Speaker:So if you just say,
Speaker:Hey, let me add you to my newsletter.
Speaker:They know darn well,
Speaker:it's not as adding to the newsletter.
Speaker:Now you're going to promote to them.
Speaker:They're going to get sales campaigns,
Speaker:et cetera,
Speaker:et cetera.
Speaker:So you want to do something that entices them and makes
Speaker:them interested.
Speaker:It's worth it enough for them to give the email.
Speaker:Correct. And going back to the e-commerce side,
Speaker:what you would want to launch on your Shopify site is
Speaker:a pop-up with some sort of incentive.
Speaker:So when people land on the website,
Speaker:they have a chance to subscribe for 10% off their first
Speaker:purchase or something along those lines.
Speaker:And I don't know about you,
Speaker:but I find myself when I'm shopping online,
Speaker:I get that pop-up immediately.
Speaker:And I always subscribe because in the back of my mind,
Speaker:when I'm shopping around,
Speaker:I know that I'm going to get a discount on those
Speaker:products. So I know that they're going to be cheaper than
Speaker:what I'm looking at.
Speaker:So I'm always more incentivized to go ahead and subscribe to
Speaker:a pop-up cause I can always unsubscribe.
Speaker:I decide that I'm actually not going to purchase one of
Speaker:the products.
Speaker:It's nice to have that in your back pocket as you're
Speaker:learning about.
Speaker:And I know that there's a lot of resistance against pop-ups
Speaker:because people feel that they're very intrusive,
Speaker:but I got to tell you,
Speaker:I have a pop-up on the gift biz on wrapped site.
Speaker:Cause I actually have two different sites and a lot of
Speaker:people opt in.
Speaker:I was surprised.
Speaker:Cause I thought,
Speaker:you know what?
Speaker:I'll put it up.
Speaker:I'll see what happens.
Speaker:And now that it's up,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it's been there now for a while and people are opting
Speaker:in every single day.
Speaker:I'm so glad you brought that up because we get customers
Speaker:all the time that come on board and say,
Speaker:I don't like pop-ups I don't want to be that annoying
Speaker:marketer. That's in their face.
Speaker:As soon as the customer lands on the website,
Speaker:I think the customer's going to leave immediately if they get
Speaker:a pop-up from me.
Speaker:But I always say,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:give it a try at least for a month.
Speaker:You'll see,
Speaker:popups are not as annoying as you think they are.
Speaker:And you can also delay the pop-up.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I think that what I don't like are the popups that
Speaker:the second you land on the site,
Speaker:you don't even know if you are in the place you
Speaker:want to be before a pop-up comes in.
Speaker:So you can delay it like even 10,
Speaker:15 seconds.
Speaker:Let someone get a look a little bit for a second
Speaker:and then let it come in so that it feels a
Speaker:lot less intrusive that way let's walk this through again for
Speaker:understanding of our pet biscuit person.
Speaker:So she's not done a lot already with email marketing yet,
Speaker:but she has a perfect way.
Speaker:And she's feeling comfortable now that she'll collect email addresses two
Speaker:questions really quickly.
Speaker:And I know some of this might be covered through spring
Speaker:bot or some of it might be covered in whoever you're
Speaker:using for your website,
Speaker:for example.
Speaker:So let's just keep with Shopify because that is my all
Speaker:time. Number one recommended space popups are put together through your
Speaker:website, right?
Speaker:Not through Springboks.
Speaker:So that is something we offer through spring buy it's.
Speaker:One of the first features we encourage customers to get turned
Speaker:on. It's the pop-up and then the automated emails.
Speaker:So if you already have one through Shopify,
Speaker:big commerce,
Speaker:whichever site you're in,
Speaker:you can keep that.
Speaker:Or would we want to convert over to spring bots because
Speaker:of tracking or something.
Speaker:We suggest switching over to spring blots one to keep everything
Speaker:in one place.
Speaker:That is something that small business owners are looking for is
Speaker:kind of that's our big pride and joy is the all-in-one
Speaker:marketing place.
Speaker:So they don't have to go to Shopify to edit their
Speaker:pop-up and then go to spring about to edit their automated
Speaker:emails. It's kind of all done in one platform.
Speaker:So that's what we usually recommend,
Speaker:but they can absolutely keep their own pop-up if they like
Speaker:the way it looks and they want to keep it there.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:And again,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:this is the big thing about spring bot.
Speaker:I don't know that we really formally explained or clarified all
Speaker:of this.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:we said it in fancy words,
Speaker:but what I'm seeing you correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker:Georgia is the really cool thing about spring bot is you
Speaker:don't have to go to your website all the time versus
Speaker:social media platforms to post versus a blog area,
Speaker:to put your blog in versus an ad center to run
Speaker:your ads.
Speaker:Like those are all different segments.
Speaker:You can come to spring bot and do everything in one
Speaker:place. Correct?
Speaker:So with spring bot,
Speaker:we would hook up to the backend of your Shopify.
Speaker:So we would actually pull in all the reporting from your
Speaker:Shopify site.
Speaker:So even if you wanted to see how many orders you
Speaker:got that day in general,
Speaker:you can see that through the Springbok platform,
Speaker:you can pretty much do every single thing in terms of
Speaker:marketing through spring bop,
Speaker:the pop-up,
Speaker:the automated emails,
Speaker:the advertising,
Speaker:Facebook advertising,
Speaker:email creation,
Speaker:sending your email newsletters through our system posting to social media.
Speaker:So it really is kind of the all in one encompassing
Speaker:platform. So let's dive into a little bit more of that.
Speaker:Someone lands on my website,
Speaker:I have a pop-up they sign up for my email list.
Speaker:I also then am attracting emails.
Speaker:So these are physical.
Speaker:Some people still do like the paper list type thing.
Speaker:Some people will do a QR code where it will automatically
Speaker:add them to the list.
Speaker:But if it's physical,
Speaker:how do we get those into our email list over at
Speaker:spring pot?
Speaker:Do we hand type them all in?
Speaker:Yeah, you can hand type them in or put them in
Speaker:an Excel sheet and then just upload that Excel sheet.
Speaker:And so you can do it one by one in the
Speaker:spring about platform,
Speaker:but I would recommend just putting all the emails into a
Speaker:spreadsheet and keeping that handy and then uploading that spreadsheet every
Speaker:week or every month.
Speaker:Okay. So then I'm flipping a little bit back and forth,
Speaker:but we're at the point of collecting email addresses and every
Speaker:single email address,
Speaker:as long as you're collecting quality emails is a prospective customer.
Speaker:Some of them might be customers.
Speaker:Some of them are prospects.
Speaker:So when did they come in?
Speaker:Oh, this was my other question just really quickly,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:that pop pop-up where someone gets 10% off their first order.
Speaker:Is it in spring bot with your system or is it
Speaker:also with,
Speaker:let's go back to Shopify that once they've used that once
Speaker:they won't ever see it again,
Speaker:when they come up,
Speaker:Correct. So popups,
Speaker:no matter where the pop-up is hosted,
Speaker:they all kind of work in the same way where it's
Speaker:based on cookie data.
Speaker:So as long as the customer isn't clearing their cookies,
Speaker:like if they cleared their cache and cookies,
Speaker:then when they visit the website again,
Speaker:it's going to think that they're a brand new customer because
Speaker:they don't have the cookie that tells the system that you've
Speaker:already seen.
Speaker:The pop-up once.
Speaker:Another way is to go in an incognito browser.
Speaker:So if you aren't an incognito browser,
Speaker:you're always going to get a pop-up because you're always going
Speaker:to be viewed as a brand new customer.
Speaker:And the way I kind of feel about that,
Speaker:is there going to be people who are going to try
Speaker:and override any system you have,
Speaker:and it's a waste of time to worry about them.
Speaker:Like if someone keeps wanting to get their 10% off,
Speaker:whatever, like spend your time on attracting new customers,
Speaker:if that person's just going to do that.
Speaker:Oh, well,
Speaker:At the end of the day,
Speaker:it's still an order.
Speaker:So as long as you're still making money off of that
Speaker:order, it's not worth your time to really chase them down
Speaker:and say,
Speaker:you can't use that coupon code,
Speaker:but we typically,
Speaker:it becomes an issue.
Speaker:We tell customers to use unique coupon codes so that everyone
Speaker:can only get one coupon code in use at one time.
Speaker:And then in the backend of Shopify,
Speaker:you can actually example if the code was just going to
Speaker:be something generic,
Speaker:like welcome 10 for 10% off,
Speaker:we always tell customers to put limit one use per customer.
Speaker:And that way they would have to sign up with a
Speaker:new email address every time.
Speaker:Because if they try to check out what that email address
Speaker:and that coupon code,
Speaker:it's going to tell them if they've already used it.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:And we're not going to worry about that.
Speaker:Right? Cause we're optimists.
Speaker:We believe that people do what they should do because they
Speaker:understand the situation and they want to support small businesses.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So now I'm not sending out very many emails.
Speaker:I know I should be,
Speaker:but it's just one more thing to do.
Speaker:How could spring bot help me with an email campaign more
Speaker:about spring pat and how it can help you in your
Speaker:business coming your way?
Speaker:Right after a quick break.
Speaker:Hi, I'm Anita community manager for the ribbon print companies,
Speaker:customer support program.
Speaker:You'll also find me when I accompany suit to exhibit at
Speaker:trade shows where we get to meet many of our existing
Speaker:customers in person and introduce new people to the world of
Speaker:ribbons printing.
Speaker:It's always fun.
Speaker:Seeing the reaction people have during a demonstration,
Speaker:when a ribbon is created with their company name,
Speaker:a related image or their own message that they helped to
Speaker:design on the spot.
Speaker:They're always amazed that within seconds their message will print right
Speaker:before their eyes.
Speaker:Of course,
Speaker:that's rewarding for me too,
Speaker:as I get to enjoy the smiles and the excitement that
Speaker:this is even a possibility.
Speaker:And that's when they realize how easy it would be to
Speaker:do this in their stores too.
Speaker:So can you,
Speaker:you can personalize ribbon for your customers to celebrate birthdays anniversaries
Speaker:or whatever you like,
Speaker:but we're also seeing a lot of our customers use the
Speaker:ribbon printer for their branding by adding logo,
Speaker:ribbon or labels to products or for flavor or scent designations
Speaker:to our number.
Speaker:One comment we hear when we're out with our customers is
Speaker:that the ribbon printer is a game-changing addition to any business,
Speaker:large or small.
Speaker:I'm proud to be part of the ribbon print company team.
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Speaker:go to the ribbon print company.com.
Speaker:So we do have a creative team in house that handles
Speaker:email campaign creation for our customers.
Speaker:Whether you want once a month,
Speaker:we can go in there and create an email campaign,
Speaker:really consult with you on,
Speaker:are you running a sale this month?
Speaker:It's February.
Speaker:Maybe we should do something for Valentine's day this month.
Speaker:And we can build that from start to finish design it,
Speaker:make it look really nice and think of the subject line
Speaker:best time to send it so we can do all of
Speaker:that for our customers.
Speaker:That really just don't have the time to send an email
Speaker:campaign out,
Speaker:or we could Do it ourselves either Way,
Speaker:or you could do it yourself.
Speaker:And that's where I'm not on that creative team that would
Speaker:actually build out the email campaigns for our customers,
Speaker:but you'll have an account manager and the account manager would
Speaker:be someone like me,
Speaker:who we could get on a call and I can show
Speaker:you exactly how to build the email in spring bot.
Speaker:I can walk you through best practices.
Speaker:We can talk through things,
Speaker:but it would be you the store owner actually building out
Speaker:and sending that email.
Speaker:You have the flexibility one way or another.
Speaker:Correct. Okay.
Speaker:So what about going back to someone's brand new to the
Speaker:list? So I've either added them in manually myself or they've
Speaker:come on the site and entered in their email through the
Speaker:pop-up. What about some type of a welcome campaign?
Speaker:Pretty much.
Speaker:So once the customer lands on the website,
Speaker:they get the pop-up they subscribe,
Speaker:then they will automatically get a automated welcome email.
Speaker:That's also set up in spring bots automatically is all set
Speaker:up for you at when you start.
Speaker:So the welcome email,
Speaker:you really want to focus on the messaging in the welcome
Speaker:email. It's kind of your first introductory message to your consumer
Speaker:base. So you want to keep it short and sweet.
Speaker:You want to keep a lot of nice imagery in that
Speaker:email because they're more likely to click on that email and
Speaker:go back to your website.
Speaker:If there's pretty picture or nice brand imagery,
Speaker:How do you feel about the double opt-in,
Speaker:where they have to confirm and verify their email address?
Speaker:We do not recommend that to anyone unless they are required
Speaker:to do double opt-in.
Speaker:So we have some customers in the UK or Europe,
Speaker:for example,
Speaker:and that is a requirement.
Speaker:Yeah, that's part of that GDPR,
Speaker:Right? GDPR compliant.
Speaker:We really don't recommend it unless you're having issues with your
Speaker:subscriber base and you're getting way too many fake emails or
Speaker:something like that.
Speaker:And you really just want to focus and hone in on
Speaker:the people who are going to double opt in,
Speaker:but we found that often you won't get a lot of
Speaker:new email subscribers that way,
Speaker:because they will just forget to go in and click.
Speaker:I just think about the fact,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:how so many people have email addresses that they only use
Speaker:for promotional things.
Speaker:And so then when you want to send emails to them
Speaker:regularly, they're not going to get them because they don't go
Speaker:into an email box that they look at.
Speaker:Correct. So I guess that's just testing on the backend.
Speaker:When you start seeing what your open rates look like.
Speaker:If you feel like your audience tends to fall in that
Speaker:category, then maybe you test it and see or something like
Speaker:that. And it's something that you can go back on.
Speaker:So if you do need to do it for a little
Speaker:bit, you can always go back and not collect,
Speaker:do double opt-in in the future.
Speaker:We've gone back and forth with it.
Speaker:I don't know which one is right or not.
Speaker:Right. I really don't have an opinion on it.
Speaker:I just is a question that came up.
Speaker:So on the email side,
Speaker:then you can do the automated campaign.
Speaker:So when somebody joins the list,
Speaker:it can be like a getting to know you sequence.
Speaker:It can be just the delivery of the coupon code.
Speaker:If that's what you're doing to get the 10% off or
Speaker:whatever, and that can automatically go.
Speaker:And then you can also do monthly letters.
Speaker:So with spring bot,
Speaker:I can do two different things.
Speaker:I can do the automated campaign.
Speaker:If someone signs up for the 10%,
Speaker:then the email will deliver that coupon code that they'll use,
Speaker:and then maybe a welcome campaign or whatever those automated things
Speaker:would be for a new customer.
Speaker:So we can do those timed campaigns that then are for
Speaker:anybody who signs up for an email and they get this
Speaker:first sequence.
Speaker:And then you can also do the monthly emails where you
Speaker:can get help and direction with it,
Speaker:or you can do it yourself,
Speaker:correct? Yeah,
Speaker:but this is just one facet.
Speaker:And I think we've spent a lot of time here.
Speaker:So I'm going to speed this up a little bit,
Speaker:but this is a point where a lot of people are
Speaker:still. So I thought it's worth the time here that I
Speaker:really think it is something that is relevant because we'll get
Speaker:customers sometimes that are manually sending abandoned cart notifications to customers
Speaker:they'll manually go in there and do it.
Speaker:And they don't know that they can just automate those types
Speaker:of emails and build out a specific flow for if they
Speaker:abandoned to this item,
Speaker:they get this abandoned cart email.
Speaker:And if they are a brand new customer,
Speaker:they'll get this type of abandoned cart email.
Speaker:So I do think it's worth the time spent on talking
Speaker:about Wonderful.
Speaker:So that's a whole nother topic is if someone comes in,
Speaker:they start adding things to their cart and then they get
Speaker:distracted. The kids start fighting,
Speaker:who knows what happens and they jump off the site.
Speaker:They might even forget that this is something that they really
Speaker:wanted. So that abandoned cart email is really helpful.
Speaker:And I know that abandoned carts recapture,
Speaker:what is it like 70,
Speaker:80% of the sales.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it's a lot.
Speaker:And we always suggest having at least two abandoned cart emails
Speaker:and maybe even three,
Speaker:but because some customers will purposefully abandoned the car because they
Speaker:know that they're going to get a coupon code.
Speaker:So that's something that you'll start to see.
Speaker:People will wait for it,
Speaker:but we always suggest having a few different ones.
Speaker:We would not offer the coupon code right off the bat.
Speaker:See if they purchase just regular,
Speaker:full price,
Speaker:just keep top of mind,
Speaker:keep reminding them that they have that product in the back.
Speaker:And to your point,
Speaker:product dependent,
Speaker:because you might have margins on some products where you'd be
Speaker:willing to make an additional discounted offer and some where you
Speaker:won't. And certain times of year,
Speaker:I'm thinking too,
Speaker:because as things get closer to let's say Christmas,
Speaker:and if it's a Christmas themed product,
Speaker:you don't want to keep that inventory for a whole year.
Speaker:So things like that,
Speaker:and that's all business strategy,
Speaker:but let's move on to talk about a couple of other
Speaker:things that spring bot can help us out with the two
Speaker:things I want to focus on are blogging and then ads.
Speaker:So let's start with blogging.
Speaker:This has been a huge topic in the podcast.
Speaker:In fact,
Speaker:I recently did a blog challenge to our listeners and I
Speaker:have a whole episode showing and highlighting the winners of the
Speaker:blog challenge.
Speaker:So we have talked a lot about the value of blogs
Speaker:for product based businesses,
Speaker:which quite honestly a lot people don't think about.
Speaker:So we've kind of gotten to the point talking about why
Speaker:this could be helpful,
Speaker:but I think the real stumbling point is I don't have
Speaker:time to write the articles or how do I put them
Speaker:on my website or how do we even do this?
Speaker:So where can springboard help us with?
Speaker:Well, yeah,
Speaker:the great thing about blogging is blogging tools are often free,
Speaker:but there are a few more budget friendly options.
Speaker:Like the one spring bot offers that can help you track
Speaker:the performance and effectiveness of your blog a little bit better
Speaker:so that you're not wasting time just writing content.
Speaker:That's actually not getting any engagement.
Speaker:So the biggest advantage of blogs is that it really helps
Speaker:with your SEO.
Speaker:If you write a blog,
Speaker:post titled 10 things to do,
Speaker:You got to use our pet person pet biscuit.
Speaker:Yes. Let's use that example.
Speaker:So for the dog biscuits,
Speaker:maybe we want to write an article about how to train
Speaker:your dog and how to reward them with the dog biscuits.
Speaker:So you can do a quick Google search just to see
Speaker:when you start typing in how to train your dog.
Speaker:It'll automatically start to try to complete your sentence by pulling
Speaker:in what people are searching the most.
Speaker:So you automatically know kind of what you should title your
Speaker:blog posts for Google SEO purposes.
Speaker:But when you publish that blog,
Speaker:now, when people start searching for that kind of stuff,
Speaker:your website is going to pop up.
Speaker:So not only are you just educating your customers on something
Speaker:that they're interested in,
Speaker:you're also embedding your products within that blog article.
Speaker:So now they've come to your website.
Speaker:Now they might sign up for your email list because they
Speaker:liked that blog posts.
Speaker:They want to hear more.
Speaker:And then everything kind of goes back to the marketing funnel.
Speaker:They just keep kind of going through that marketing funnel steps,
Speaker:they get re-targeted with automated emails or your email newsletters or
Speaker:advertising until they eventually purchased.
Speaker:Really. This is another attraction tool to use the power of
Speaker:Google. When people are searching all of a sudden,
Speaker:there's a blog article where you're providing the solution to whatever
Speaker:the topic is here.
Speaker:We're talking about dog training,
Speaker:and then they end up jumping over to your site.
Speaker:After they've read the art or the article sitting on your
Speaker:site, right?
Speaker:It sits on your website already.
Speaker:But the thing that I really like about what spring bot
Speaker:offers is the issue is consistency.
Speaker:And having the time to actually write articles so you can
Speaker:write your own articles.
Speaker:But then I also saw where you have a licensed blog
Speaker:library, right?
Speaker:Where we can pull up.
Speaker:If we see articles that are relevant to our audience,
Speaker:you always want them to relate to your product some way
Speaker:an extension or something.
Speaker:That's interesting to your audience.
Speaker:You can take already written articles,
Speaker:right? That are already then have the right keywords and all
Speaker:of that Georgia.
Speaker:Right? So we know that the idea of having to sit
Speaker:down and write these articles can seem really daunting and can
Speaker:take some time.
Speaker:So if you're looking for more of a hands-off approach to
Speaker:blogging, we have a content library with tons of prewritten licensed
Speaker:blogs, like you were mentioning,
Speaker:and you can go in there,
Speaker:it'll prompt you to update a few things like the main
Speaker:kind of blurb up at the top.
Speaker:You can include your products.
Speaker:So the articles kind of written out.
Speaker:For example,
Speaker:we might have our article already written about training a pet,
Speaker:and then all you would really need to do is just
Speaker:embed your treats and your products in there.
Speaker:And that would only take a few minutes.
Speaker:We can take the base article and adjust it as we
Speaker:like Adjust it slightly.
Speaker:So since they're pre-written and they're already licensed the way they
Speaker:are, that you can't change everything,
Speaker:but the program will kind of prompt you to change the
Speaker:things that you should change.
Speaker:So is this a way then that your article is going
Speaker:to look a little bit different than someone else who might've
Speaker:accessed and wants to use that article also,
Speaker:Right? That's exactly it.
Speaker:Okay, perfect.
Speaker:And these are already all the keywords.
Speaker:All the SEO has already been thought through,
Speaker:Right? They're already really optimized for that.
Speaker:And you could use a mixture on your site,
Speaker:right? Like,
Speaker:let's say there's one month,
Speaker:you have no time to write an article,
Speaker:but you know,
Speaker:it's super important that you stay consistent because you've trained your
Speaker:people to be watching for an article all the time.
Speaker:Plus, I'm not sure if this happens.
Speaker:I think so.
Speaker:But when we do emails or blog articles,
Speaker:our website traffic increases like there's a direct correlation,
Speaker:so you want to stay consistent.
Speaker:So if you have a month,
Speaker:when you just can't do it,
Speaker:maybe four of the 12 months,
Speaker:if you're on a monthly schedule,
Speaker:are these articles that are licensed and already written for you.
Speaker:It doesn't have to be all or nothing on one side
Speaker:or another.
Speaker:But I see that as a huge,
Speaker:Yeah. When customers say they really need to drive traffic to
Speaker:their website,
Speaker:but they don't have the budget to spend a lot on
Speaker:advertising. Blogging is the best tool to use.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:So let's now approach advertising.
Speaker:And again,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I know the audience,
Speaker:well, like some people will do a little bit of advertising,
Speaker:but partying with money to do a test is scary for
Speaker:a lot of people.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:we do have people who are running Facebook ads or boosting
Speaker:ads with all the Facebook changes.
Speaker:I'm hearing that that may be a better option than it
Speaker:used to be.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:We'll see how that goes out.
Speaker:It's still so new,
Speaker:but what do you say about,
Speaker:well, I guess we should talk about social,
Speaker:all told posting and advertising,
Speaker:right? Cause you cover and help with Yeah.
Speaker:So when it comes to social media,
Speaker:just posting to your social channels is also a great way
Speaker:to drive new traffic to your website.
Speaker:There are so many people on Facebook and Instagram,
Speaker:Facebook, and Instagram tend to be the best social media tools
Speaker:to use for e-commerce businesses.
Speaker:That's where most people look to find products that they enjoy.
Speaker:And if you're posting to social media,
Speaker:it doesn't really require any budget.
Speaker:You don't have to,
Speaker:like you said,
Speaker:boost your posts.
Speaker:You just have to be consistent.
Speaker:But the one thing that I see when it comes to
Speaker:social media and advertising is if you don't have high quality
Speaker:lifestyle images,
Speaker:your social media posts and your ads are not going to
Speaker:perform as well as if you take the time to invest
Speaker:in a little bit of photography first,
Speaker:because if you're just posting pictures of the dog biscuit,
Speaker:just on a blank white background,
Speaker:it's not as enticing as a picture of a cute puppy,
Speaker:getting fed a treat or something along those lines.
Speaker:So you really want to paint a picture for your audience.
Speaker:Always Totally agree.
Speaker:And I'm just thinking through,
Speaker:like, I would just go and look at all the adorable
Speaker:puppies, right?
Speaker:And if this was your business,
Speaker:I'm thinking of a couple of people within my community who
Speaker:directly relate to pets.
Speaker:You can have your customers provide photos too,
Speaker:of there who doesn't want to share an adorable photo of
Speaker:their dog with your product and get promoted on your channel.
Speaker:Exactly. There's so much opportunity there and you're right.
Speaker:I could just go through and look at all of that.
Speaker:It's kind of like cute baby pictures.
Speaker:You ended up following the page cause you want to see
Speaker:more cute dog pictures.
Speaker:You like dogs.
Speaker:And then you keep seeing these treats just,
Speaker:it comes inundated in your mind that you need to purchase
Speaker:these treats because you keep seeing them over and over again.
Speaker:And then one thing,
Speaker:when it comes to advertising still on the high quality lifestyle
Speaker:images front,
Speaker:when some customers start to do advertising for the first time,
Speaker:they'll see their website.
Speaker:Bounce rate is not great.
Speaker:Usually when we see a high bounce rate,
Speaker:it's because your website has all your products just on a
Speaker:white background.
Speaker:And that's the first thing that they see when they get
Speaker:to your homepage.
Speaker:The first thing that they see when they get to your
Speaker:homepage should be one of these lifestyle images.
Speaker:That's really going to paint the picture of who you are
Speaker:as a brand.
Speaker:And that's going to really take your advertising dollars much farther
Speaker:because people won't get to your website and bounce away immediately.
Speaker:They'll stick around long enough to get the pop-up.
Speaker:And that's kind of where it all starts.
Speaker:I think this is an important point too,
Speaker:because this is where I think a lot of people say,
Speaker:well, I've put money towards ads,
Speaker:but it hasn't worked.
Speaker:Advertising helps bring somebody over to where they can purchase the
Speaker:product. And to your point,
Speaker:if you see website traffic increase,
Speaker:but it's bouncing.
Speaker:That doesn't mean the ads aren't working.
Speaker:That means the ads are working,
Speaker:but there's something on your website that is a barrier to
Speaker:the sale.
Speaker:So all these things work together,
Speaker:right? I've started calling this Georgia,
Speaker:your sales channel panel because they do all work together.
Speaker:Like craft shows ended up collecting emails,
Speaker:which ended up getting people on your list,
Speaker:which ends up getting people to your website,
Speaker:which then social media.
Speaker:They also start following you on social and all of it
Speaker:works together.
Speaker:And this is just another perfect example that if things aren't
Speaker:going right on your website,
Speaker:it falls apart,
Speaker:right? I like what you're saying here.
Speaker:So let me repeat and see if I've gotten this right,
Speaker:Georgia is,
Speaker:if someone comes to your website,
Speaker:it should be interesting and intriguing for them to want to
Speaker:look further.
Speaker:So that's where you're saying there should be a lifestyle photo
Speaker:so that they clearly understand what your product is.
Speaker:So it can't just be any kind of photo it should
Speaker:have and relate to your product and have your product in
Speaker:it. And that's more of the homepage and whatever else you're
Speaker:going to put on the home page.
Speaker:And then when people want to know more,
Speaker:let's say they jump over to a shop now page,
Speaker:or maybe you have featured products,
Speaker:a little lower on the home page,
Speaker:then it's okay to have the individual product specific photos.
Speaker:Is that right?
Speaker:Hit the nail on the head.
Speaker:Okay. So at the very least,
Speaker:so I don't want to overwhelm anybody who like they have
Speaker:a site that the second you get there,
Speaker:all you see is boxes of product,
Speaker:a little bit of adjustment.
Speaker:Like you want that first banner image.
Speaker:If you will,
Speaker:to be a feel,
Speaker:good image,
Speaker:a lifestyle image where people could put themselves in that picture
Speaker:and see using And your product.
Speaker:Exactly. And you can tell what the brand voice is through
Speaker:these lifestyle images.
Speaker:So it's something you definitely,
Speaker:and you don't have to hire a photographer.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:these days,
Speaker:the I-phones shoot great pictures.
Speaker:So you really just need to paint the scene and take
Speaker:some pictures,
Speaker:do a little editing and then get those images up on
Speaker:your website.
Speaker:Absolutely agreed.
Speaker:Okay. And so at what point would you say in a
Speaker:business's evolution,
Speaker:would it be time for them to start running ad?
Speaker:So two different types of ads.
Speaker:One would be your traffic ads.
Speaker:Those you should start as soon as possible.
Speaker:It takes a lot of time to really see the results
Speaker:from traffic ads.
Speaker:It can be really frustrating for e-commerce businesses because it's not
Speaker:that immediate sale.
Speaker:You don't see,
Speaker:oh, I started ads at $5 a day.
Speaker:I got 10 conversions.
Speaker:It really doesn't happen overnight like that.
Speaker:So if you're trying to build your traffic,
Speaker:I suggest having all those foundational tools in place like the
Speaker:lifestyle images on your website to start building up your social
Speaker:media, following for free,
Speaker:have the pop-up ready to go have the automated emails,
Speaker:all set,
Speaker:and then start putting money into advertising on the traffic side
Speaker:for retargeting.
Speaker:We don't typically recommend retargeting ads until you've built up enough
Speaker:traffic for the ads to really work and be worth it.
Speaker:I think somewhere around the 3000 unique visitors,
Speaker:mark is usually where we would want to be when we
Speaker:suggest retargeting ads.
Speaker:And as your traffic grows,
Speaker:your budget on the retargeting side will grow as well to
Speaker:make sure you're reaching all the people that are coming to
Speaker:your website and leaping without purchasing,
Speaker:not to say that if you have less than 3000,
Speaker:you're not going to see a conversion from retargeting ads.
Speaker:You definitely still can.
Speaker:And I see it all the time.
Speaker:But if you really want to do you have a small
Speaker:marketing budget and you need to know where to focus the
Speaker:budget, the most it's always going to be traffic first.
Speaker:So traffic means getting attention,
Speaker:getting visible,
Speaker:having people even know that you exist.
Speaker:So that's bringing people over to the website and those ads
Speaker:are less expensive too,
Speaker:than if you're doing like a direct sale or promotion,
Speaker:they go through Farther.
Speaker:You'll see that traffic ads show a lot more impressions and
Speaker:get a lot more clicks than the return.
Speaker:And you will get some sales because people will come over
Speaker:and they'll see,
Speaker:and they'll be interested.
Speaker:And they'll peak.
Speaker:I'll get the pop-up.
Speaker:Everything will work well together.
Speaker:Once they get on the site,
Speaker:if they just get one traffic ad and then they come
Speaker:to the website and there's nothing else,
Speaker:I'll kind of keep them engaged and keep them coming back
Speaker:multiple times,
Speaker:then it'll be harder to get that sale.
Speaker:So that's why we always recommend having as many retargeting features
Speaker:kind of already set in place so that when they do
Speaker:come to your website,
Speaker:everything's automated.
Speaker:And I would suggest that some of this advertising that you're
Speaker:doing here,
Speaker:where you're just bringing people over to your website is a
Speaker:continual refueling of your funnel too.
Speaker:So, and if you have that working in the background,
Speaker:then that's helpful.
Speaker:Cause you're always getting new eyeballs.
Speaker:In addition to other things that you're doing,
Speaker:maybe social media posts,
Speaker:et cetera,
Speaker:but you're always getting new people over to your site.
Speaker:And then it's their choice.
Speaker:Is this right for me?
Speaker:Am I interested or not?
Speaker:But you don't have to do anything.
Speaker:It's automatic.
Speaker:How much help do you give?
Speaker:And of course it varies based on how much people want
Speaker:to invest in all that.
Speaker:But how much help do you give us for our social
Speaker:media advertising?
Speaker:So we pretty much will manage the advertising for our customers.
Speaker:So there's two different types.
Speaker:We do have that creative team that builds emails.
Speaker:They also can handle ads directly in your Facebook business manager
Speaker:for you.
Speaker:So they would build out the audiences run those ads for
Speaker:you. The other side is the ads that I manage,
Speaker:which are called just regular web retargeting ads.
Speaker:And then they also can serve on Facebook and Instagram.
Speaker:It's just a little bit different because you're not directly in
Speaker:Facebook business manager,
Speaker:but our customer success team would handle the majority of the
Speaker:making sure the ads are performing well,
Speaker:setting up the audiences,
Speaker:making budget recommendations when it's needed saying,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:we're getting a little ad fatigue,
Speaker:these ads up and running for awhile.
Speaker:I can see that they're starting to not perform as well.
Speaker:It's time to switch up the imagery,
Speaker:time to switch up the incentive in the ad,
Speaker:that kind of thing.
Speaker:And I got to say,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:the value of using a service like yours and I'm talking
Speaker:specifically for advertising right now is people who are working for
Speaker:you on your account or me on my account.
Speaker:However, I want to say it is also seen what other
Speaker:of your clients are doing.
Speaker:So they're getting this group of experience and knowledge of what's
Speaker:going on that then can serve as recommendations for what you
Speaker:should be doing,
Speaker:not sharing other people's information.
Speaker:Obviously that's all confidential,
Speaker:but it's this base level of knowledge that if you are
Speaker:a solo preneur and doing it all yourself,
Speaker:the only thing you're seeing are your results,
Speaker:We can kind of see What's worked in the past for
Speaker:similar brands and we'll know that,
Speaker:okay, this type of marketing tactic works well for doc treat
Speaker:companies or worked and now isn't anymore.
Speaker:So stop doing that.
Speaker:Let's do something different that is working.
Speaker:You have your finger on the pulse of all of that.
Speaker:Where as again,
Speaker:the business owner who's has so many hats to wear.
Speaker:We may never see that.
Speaker:So that would be more of a waste of money versus
Speaker:helpful expenses.
Speaker:Really overall,
Speaker:I come out of the advertising agency type industry.
Speaker:What I see spring bot as in my mind is an
Speaker:agency for small business owners.
Speaker:Like you've got everything under the same umbrella,
Speaker:like all the different types of services that I need to
Speaker:build and grow my business apart,
Speaker:obviously from not product development or order fulfillment,
Speaker:but everything else is Yeah.
Speaker:And we get customers sometimes that just got burned by an
Speaker:agency. They spent thousands of dollars with them a month and
Speaker:they didn't,
Speaker:weren't seeing the results to be able to continue to pay
Speaker:that thousand dollar a month cost that usually agencies have.
Speaker:Cause they have a very small customer base.
Speaker:They only have a few clients that they work with and
Speaker:that's what they do all day long.
Speaker:When really when you're a small business,
Speaker:you might not need that level of agency style work.
Speaker:You might just need somewhere like spring bot where you're paying
Speaker:a much plus management fee,
Speaker:much smaller kind of costs for the platform itself.
Speaker:And you're still getting a level of support that you need
Speaker:in terms of running your ads,
Speaker:just consulting on what the best practices are,
Speaker:what you should be doing.
Speaker:So of course,
Speaker:everyone listening is saying,
Speaker:okay, so what do the numbers look like?
Speaker:What would be an investment if I wanted to look at
Speaker:spring bot?
Speaker:So can you give us some parameters?
Speaker:Yeah. So it starts at 1 99 for kind of our
Speaker:base package.
Speaker:That includes unlimited automated emails.
Speaker:So we talked about the welcome.
Speaker:We talked about the abandoned cart.
Speaker:We didn't talk about all the other automated emails that we
Speaker:have, which are ones that you want to use to gather,
Speaker:repeat customers.
Speaker:So when someone purchases from you,
Speaker:maybe after getting that welcome email,
Speaker:they purchase for the first time you don't just want to
Speaker:stop there.
Speaker:You want to send them an automated email a few months
Speaker:later and see if they can come back.
Speaker:So we have emails like a win-back email.
Speaker:That's automatically set to go to customers that purchase from you,
Speaker:but it's been a certain amount of time and they haven't
Speaker:come back to purchase.
Speaker:Again. We have back in stock type of automated emails,
Speaker:The key word there is automated.
Speaker:So that once it gets set up,
Speaker:you're not having,
Speaker:like, we wouldn't need to provide you with,
Speaker:oh, these are the people who purchased three months ago and
Speaker:haven't come back.
Speaker:It's all in the system works behind the scenes for you,
Speaker:Correct? Yeah.
Speaker:I would like an anniversary email,
Speaker:for example,
Speaker:even if you start with Springbok today,
Speaker:if you set up our anniversary email,
Speaker:which is it's automatically set up to go out to customers
Speaker:that purchase from you a year ago for the time.
Speaker:So for example,
Speaker:if I purchased from a dog biscuit a year ago today,
Speaker:and the store owner turns on the anniversary email,
Speaker:I will automatically get the anniversary medals that you purchased from
Speaker:us a year ago today.
Speaker:How are things going?
Speaker:Check out our new products and get another 10% off your
Speaker:next purchase.
Speaker:So I'm someone that I was not on their email list.
Speaker:I purchased from them a year ago today,
Speaker:but I haven't heard from them since haven't really thought about
Speaker:them. And I got this automated email and now I'm reminded
Speaker:of that product.
Speaker:But another thing that a lot of people don't know is
Speaker:automated emails work on a different set of email rules.
Speaker:You do not have to be on an email list to
Speaker:receive an automated email.
Speaker:So the email is captured because they've placed an order through
Speaker:your system,
Speaker:but they're not officially getting monthly emails because they never signed
Speaker:up for them.
Speaker:Although what you just described is acceptable with an anniversary,
Speaker:Correct? Yeah.
Speaker:So things like,
Speaker:for example,
Speaker:an abandoned cart,
Speaker:you still get abandoned cart emails,
Speaker:even though you did not subscribe to the newsletter yet,
Speaker:or you haven't purchased yet.
Speaker:So automated emails do work on their own set of rules.
Speaker:So it's a great way to keep retargeting customers that purchased
Speaker:in the past.
Speaker:Try to get them to come back in,
Speaker:even though they're not receiving your monthly newsletters.
Speaker:So 1 99 a month includes unlimited emails.
Speaker:And I got to say just what you described there,
Speaker:several sales,
Speaker:depending on your product,
Speaker:we'll pay for the 1 99 a month,
Speaker:Right? It usually does pay for itself,
Speaker:especially if you take the time to really focus on that
Speaker:pop-up first.
Speaker:And they all these automated emails really setting them up to
Speaker:be high quality emails with good incentives,
Speaker:targeting the right types of people.
Speaker:And then you can kind of set it and forget it.
Speaker:You don't really have to touch those automated emails or the
Speaker:pop-up again.
Speaker:But I do recommend going back and every six months or
Speaker:so, just refreshing things like subject lines or the types of
Speaker:images you're using Is that what's included in the 1 99
Speaker:a month.
Speaker:I just want to give them a few of these packages.
Speaker:So the 1 99 a month includes the ability to send
Speaker:your email newsletters up to 5,000
Speaker:subscribers. It also includes all the reporting.
Speaker:So reporting on how many new customers you have versus existing
Speaker:customers. We purchase demographic data on all the customers.
Speaker:So as customers are coming in,
Speaker:you'll be able to start to target them based on what
Speaker:country or state that they're located in.
Speaker:You can start sending emails based on their level of status.
Speaker:Like, are they a VIP customer?
Speaker:Have they purchased from you over five times in the past
Speaker:year? So you can start to use those segments in your
Speaker:email campaign.
Speaker:So you're not just blasting out information to your whole list.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:once your list grows to a certain extent,
Speaker:you really want to start giving people specific content based on
Speaker:how they've engaged with your store in the past.
Speaker:So that's also included in that 1 99,
Speaker:the ability to schedule out your social media posts to Facebook,
Speaker:Twitter, and Instagram is included as well.
Speaker:What about blogging?
Speaker:The blogging is not included.
Speaker:So the blogging would start at 99 a month so that
Speaker:I have to double check,
Speaker:but I believe it gets you the three licensed articles a
Speaker:month. So 99 would get you three licensed articles,
Speaker:plus the ability to create as many blog posts as you
Speaker:want. In addition to that,
Speaker:Okay. I'm thinking probably because everybody has different situations going on,
Speaker:that the best thing would be to go and look at
Speaker:the site or wherever you're going to direct us to.
Speaker:Cause that's going to be my next question for you,
Speaker:but to look at their specific situation and see how spring
Speaker:bot could be a fit.
Speaker:If what we have said has enticed people to learn more.
Speaker:So what would someone do if they want to discover and
Speaker:have a little bit of a conversation,
Speaker:or just look at the services available and see if this
Speaker:could fit for them.
Speaker:So if you go onto the spring bot website,
Speaker:you can kind of look at the pricing just to see
Speaker:what it would look like.
Speaker:What types of features are available.
Speaker:Cause there's things we didn't even touch,
Speaker:like SMS,
Speaker:text messaging,
Speaker:and certain things like that.
Speaker:So there's tons of features that you can add on to
Speaker:your base package and you would pretty much just request a
Speaker:demo. So on that website,
Speaker:you can click the button that says request a demo.
Speaker:And someone from our sales team will set up,
Speaker:maybe a screen share,
Speaker:call, just show you exactly what the platform would look like
Speaker:and talk you through based on where you're at,
Speaker:where your traffic is at,
Speaker:what features they recommend you start with in your package.
Speaker:Fabulous. To me,
Speaker:it sounds like a breath of fresh air thinking that,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:if I make an investment like this,
Speaker:I'll have lots of things covered for me in my business
Speaker:that I can't possibly do right now.
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:And the goal is always not to just spend more money
Speaker:for zero return it's to invest money so that you make
Speaker:more sales over and above your investment.
Speaker:I always think like when people hear 1 99,
Speaker:it's like,
Speaker:well, $200 a month.
Speaker:Like I can't afford to do that while you can,
Speaker:if it brings you in 500 or a thousand dollars new
Speaker:businesses. And then if you're saving time by automating some of
Speaker:these features,
Speaker:you can spend that extra time that you have on other
Speaker:parts of your business.
Speaker:And then that will help grow you even more when you
Speaker:have the time to spend on that.
Speaker:Absolutely. Couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker:So anyone who's interested,
Speaker:absolutely. Jump over to Springbok.
Speaker:See what it's all about.
Speaker:See the things that we didn't discuss here and requesting a
Speaker:demo. It doesn't cost anything right,
Speaker:Georgia. It does not cost anything.
Speaker:Yeah. So if You are interested,
Speaker:definitely check it out.
Speaker:And even if you're not sure if the time is now
Speaker:for you,
Speaker:go take a look because then,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:what's available.
Speaker:Maybe it's going to be a little bit later in the
Speaker:fall. Doesn't matter when,
Speaker:but go check it out.
Speaker:So you see what the potential is and then you can
Speaker:plan it in for later if necessary,
Speaker:or you're going to come back and listen to this podcast
Speaker:again when it's time.
Speaker:So Georgia,
Speaker:thank you so much for being here.
Speaker:I really appreciate you going through a lot of what spring
Speaker:bot offers to give us a feel along with a lot
Speaker:of amazing business best practices.
Speaker:So I really appreciate your generosity and being on the show
Speaker:today. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker:We love to help customers and e-commerce businesses grow.
Speaker:So this is what we love to do.
Speaker:It was a great step in that direction today.
Speaker:Thanks again.
Speaker:Awesome. Thank you so much.
Speaker:Interesting. Yes.
Speaker:We've been talking a lot these days about having a sales
Speaker:channel panel in place that includes all the things face-to-face and
Speaker:virtual shows,
Speaker:networking, social media,
Speaker:email marketing,
Speaker:your website spring bot could be a solution for you to
Speaker:better work through all your channels.
Speaker:That's why I wanted to cover the options available during the
Speaker:show to hear more about the sales channel panel,
Speaker:go back over to tips and talk episode 27.
Speaker:That's just a short bit ago where I give you all
Speaker:the detail behind this strategy.
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