Cozy up and join us for a candid conversation as we get comfortable in our pajamas and break down the delightful documentary "Hack Your Health: The Secrets of Your Gut."

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- Explore how gut health challenges both modern medicine and traditional beliefs.

- Join in on our discussion about bacterial balance and its health influences.

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- A Pajama Party Introduction: We talk about our fun and comfy setup for watching the documentary.

- The Gut as a Forest: Discover how Giulia Enders’ analogy sparked our own reflections on health.

- Fecal Transplants Unpacked: Get the scoop on the weird and wonderful world of poop transfers.

- Is This for You?: Find out why "Hack Your Health" could be your next Netflix documentary obsession.

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Okay.

So.

I'm going to do the clap.

Three.

To one.

Okay.

I think we need to explain to the audience what just happened here, honestly.

Because guys we're still in our pajamas.

I have slept over at Megan's.

This should happen like once a week.

And, um, and we've tried to set up.

The cameras and the recording system.

So that we're still in our pajamas and comfortable on the sofa.

And.

Recording an episode.

So hopefully this will become a thing.

A Thang.

A Thang.

but I wanted to point out, especially for those of you who are watching on video.

Danna's Grinch.

Hoodie.

Which she put on last night and I just about peed my pants

because I love it so much.

Right.

Yes, I have to, and I'm not a Grinch.

But I feel like it's just such a good shirt.

It's like for a, whoever did that.

I

mean, like guys, go to the video, go on YouTube, check it out.

I'm very proud of it.

It was an, a kids section of like H and M or CNA, and I had to have it.

So I went and bought the biggest size they had.

And it works and I love it.

And it's my thing.

And yeah, that's it.

Yeah.

Right.

We babbled on.

We said we'll keep it short, and we babbled on already

So we're trying a new format, obviously because we're in person and talking

with each other, but we're also trying a new format because Danna and I are

really interested in keeping this podcast going and doing different episodes

and doing things the interest us.

And one of the things we talked about is we love to do.

episodes just the two of us.

Of course, we always love to have our wonderful guests on, but having just the

two of us is also really, really nice.

And so we were thinking about different things that we could have that, or just

the two of us and one of the things, which is what we're going to do today.

Is discuss health documentary.

because this is the so frickin healthy podcast and there are so

many endless things out there.

That tell you how to be healthier and there's all these documentaries.

And so we thought we would take an interesting documentary.

We each watched it separately, made our own notes, made our own thoughts.

And what we're planning to do today is basically just talk about a particular

documentary it's called hack your health, the secrets of your gut.

It was produced in 2024.

And you can find it on Netflix.

It is based on a book by Giulia Enders and she is in the documentary

and she's totally adorable.

She's.

Adorkable adorkable cause she's, she's super smart.

And she wrote a book several years ago called gut.

And the movie is the documentary is about that.

So

yeah.

and the documentary, I have to say, we're going to rip it apart.

But at the end of the day, it was pretty great documentary.

Really great graph.

Well, graphics, I don't know if you call it graphics, but like animation.

Very very well-made and I have to say, although we will nitpick here.

It's a pretty great documentary for you to watch.

we're going to talk about the stuff where we had questions, like good

questions So we're going to talk about the stuff that they kind of glossed over.

Then we're also going to talk about.

problems.

that we had

Danna had a few problems with the video.

Oh, I always have problems.

It's very typical.

And megan was curious.

I had problems.

So.

And then the last thing we're going to talk about is poop.

A lot of poop, a lot of.

A shit ton of poop.

So if you're planning to watch the movie, we thought it would be wise

to let you know that if you're sensitive to competitive eating.

Cause there's images.

Yeah.

Images of competitive eating.

Or actual images or.

Poop.

In a blender in a blender.

And your

kitchen in the fridge and in the freezer.

which honestly I'm okay with poop and I thought, wow.

So if those two things are not your jam, just know that they are in the

movie and you should just be ready to fast forward through those parts.

That's

what I did.

I mean, I, I was really bothered by the, competitive eating.

my finger was on the fast forward button.

Every time they started shoving food in their face,

and it wasn't a lot.

It was just a little bit when they were talking about a particular

person who was a couple of times.

Yeah.

but for the sake of this episode, We will be talking about poop later on.

And we will let you know when we start talking about poop.

If that is not your jam, you can bypass that part.

Yeah.

Cool.

Now in order to help you understand.

What this documentary is about and how.

to understand your gut and your gut flora.

I think we're going to let, our adorkable, I forgot her name.

I'm so bad with names, Julia Enders, Julia Anders.

it's just a little soundbite from the documentary of her explaining.

How the gut is like a forest.

And it's something that we both really loved her.

Analogy.

Yeah.

Of it.

So, yeah, let's have a listen.

When my patients ask me what makes a microbiome healthy, I

like to compare it to a forest.

You can't put a few healthy plants in it and expect everything to change.

A forest needs a healthy balance where the plants and the life can be

okay with the circumstances, with the light, with the water, the nutrients

from the soil, and function together.

Our gut bacteria, they want just a few grams of fiber from vegetables and

fruits every day, and it's weird that it's so hard for us to manage this.

Okay.

So that was awesome.

That was a perfect way to describe it.

I found it really, really good.

but I really want to talk about my problems.

Because I'm such a problematic child.

so within the first, I think 15 minutes of the video, if I'm not

mistaken, The first problem for me.

Rose up, which was, they were giving this infographic.

about how many grams of dietary fiber, the FDA recommends versus.

A normal three.

People eat or America is standard American versus how much

scientists think we should have.

So just to give you the numbers.

the FDA recommends 24 to 40 grams of dietary fiber.

The average American consumes only 15.

And the scientists think that we should probably have 50 grams.

Why did I have a problem with that?

First of all, I really am concerned for people who maybe have zero

to up to 15 grams of fiber now going and trying to quadruple it.

I'm very bad with math, but I assume quadrupling will give 15 to 50.

I don't know.

That could be a very painful experience for this person.

Also people who have very sensitive guts, maybe some gut health issues,

leaky gut, et cetera, et cetera.

They might be suffering hard All we're trying to say is that.

Yes, of course, every single person should have more fiber, but giving these numbers

hack your health, have this much fiber.

And I think could be a little bit risky.

Yeah.

And I always think that you tend to overthink that a little bit.

I overthink everything.

But I think that it's a good point because, and that's one of the things

when we were setting up for this episode.

We always have to think about the audience for what.

Wherever you're consuming content, whether it's an article.

Whether it's a documentary, whether it's a Facebook post or an Instagram

post or whatever, you really have to think about the audience and

who's giving you the information.

we're here talking about a documentary on Netflix,

right?

Right.

And I think they call this infotainment.

So it's information and entertainment needs to be entertaining,

so people will watch it.

And so we have to kind of think about what was the purpose of the producers and

the director when they made this video.

Yes.

And.

I think this point that you're making is a valid point, but we also have

to take into context that, okay.

They're just telling you.

This is what the government recommends.

This is what people are doing.

This is what scientists recommend.

Without looking at anybody's specific case.

True, but move with caution.

Yeah.

Could have been just the three.

Word sentence.

That would kind of cover that.

Yeah,

because if we're really talking about gut health, they really

should also know as scientists and entertainers should really know.

That there is a big group of people out there that will.

My problem is not even that they will suffer in that moment.

It's that they will say, no, this is not for me.

And they will never try again.

This is what I mean,

it's all or

nothing thing.

It's like people who start exercising and then they go out

and then they hurt themselves.

And they like, oh, exercising is not for me.

Exactly.

That's me.

Yes.

So valid point.

but you had also another problem.

I did.

Of course I did.

Megan.

my other problem was just

This very blanket statement.

At some point, one of the doctors said.

You know, the right foods to eat.

And this sounds like there is a list of right foods to eat, and

there's a list of wrong foods to eat.

And if you do it right, you'll be fine and you will hack your health.

And if you don't, then you will be sick.

I mean, how many people do we know, first of all, that each is

garbage and they're fully healthy.

And live until 150 and they're smoking their cigarettes and drinking wine

I think that blanket statement.

again, could be really problematic because first of all, I would feel if

I was in a different place in my life.

I would feel shamed.

I would feel like, oh wow, I have all these issues.

I'm just not eating the right stuff.

And that might not be true.

And one of the characters in the film actually also talks about it.

We'll talk about her a little bit, but she was eating healthy and stuff.

But she was suffering from everything that came into her mouth.

Obviously there's a deeper problem there.

they didn't go deeper into that.

But the right food for her is different from the right food for you.

And for me, Right.

So that is something to, again, keep in mind when you're watching this.

Don't let it shame you into thinking like, oh, I'm just doing everything wrong.

Because that could also backfire.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

Okay, so now that we got over my problems, let's talk about

Wait, do we ever really get over your problems?

No, never.

No.

Look, I'm Jewish, okay?

It comes with the heritage.

I can't control it.

But what I want to talk about, which I think is a really The interesting part

of our conversation today is what were the things that piqued our curiosity?

What did we want to hear more about?

Yeah.

And that was, of course, coming more from you.

I was all like looking for the problems.

So why don't you tell us about a few of your,

yeah.

So, as Danna said, I feel like what this video did for me, what this

documentary did for me was really go, Oh.

Haven't thought about that, haven't thought about that, or why can't you

expound a little bit more on this?

So the first right in the first five or six minutes, they talk about how

this new gut health medicine and studies and information that we're

learning is disrupting modern medicine.

Yes.

That's what they said.

And immediately I'm pausing, raking my note, and I'm going like, Okay, but

what the fuck about Eastern medicine?

Yeah.

Okay, if it's disrupting modern medicine, and modern medicine is

what we would call Western medicine.

Yes.

So not Eastern traditional medicine.

New school.

yeah, new school medicine.

Then, what is the status of gut health in traditional Eastern or traditional

Asian cultural medicine, where they tend to do more preventative medicine.

They tend to be a little bit more holistic.

They tend to be a little bit more integrative or health related.

a functional medicine is kind of born from a combination of the two.

and they didn't say, and I haven't looked it up.

It's just this open question in my mind.

because we hear about traditional Chinese medicine in the terms of like

acupuncture and cupping and other things.

There's a whole world food related to that for sure.

Ayurveda I mean, there's so many ancient medicines that, now people are kind of

going like, Oh, interesting, but it's been around for Decades and decades, right?

Yeah, and yeah, you're totally right.

I think that was, yeah, that piqued my curiosity as well.

I'm not a Eastern medicine guru or anything, but what I've seen is

that there's a lot of stuff that has worked in Eastern medicine for

thousands of years, they don't have any clinical understanding of why it

works, but they know that it works.

And I have a feeling that there's a lot in the gut and Western medicine or

the Western world, somehow our brains, we've been wired to say, if there's

been no studies that how I know that it works, it's just woo woo, fake medicine.

Right.

And I'm thinking like, you don't always need a clinical study

to tell you something works.

And this is back always when we talk about doing your little study of one,

if it works for you, who gives a fuck if there's a clinical study and of

course there are always going to be like snake oil people out there trying to

sell you something that doesn't work.

It's true.

But I, I just, I feel in my.

Gut?

Uh huh.

Ha!

Uh!

I feel in my gut that I really want to figure out more what's going on

in Eastern medicine with the gut.

Yeah.

Okay, I think I went along too long about that one.

No, it's perfect.

My next one was Bacteria that one of the specialists was talking about

how people hear bacteria again, I'm talking more Western cultures and with

the whole antibacterial movement and disinfecting everything and I mean,

there's a whole bunch of information about that, about how that might be

increasing people's allergies and autoimmune diseases and other stuff.

Yeah.

And that ties into what this guy was saying.

He's like, listen, you have bacteria in your gut.

You have enzymes, you have bacteria, you have viruses.

All the time you have viruses in your gut that your body just takes care of.

And there is bacteria in your gut.

Quote, quiet inflammation and help avoid autoimmune disease.

Which is huge.

How can you skim through that?

Wait, wait, where's the whole chapter on this?

Right, where's the whole video on that?

and this is the thing, look, if you're looking for science, for example, just

by hearing that, it brings me back to all of the studies that show that kids

who grow up on a farm Kids who have a dog lick their face from like age zero.

They have stronger immune system versus people who are going around, you know,

cleaning their hands with disinfectant all the time and living in the sterile world.

we need to understand that There is, we are more bacteria than human cells.

Yeah.

So the word bacteria to, to demonize the word bacteria is just a bit silly

because you're demonizing literally every single person walking on this earth.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

Yeah.

So that one left me wanting a little bit more.

The next one was yours.

Yeah.

Look, I was curious.

Yeah, you were curious.

Good job.

Yeah.

I found it fascinating.

So they were talking about.

the link between constipation and Parkinson's disease, which

immediately to me, you know, I was thinking about my grandfather.

He was chronically constipated.

It became a joke in the house, but he was chronically constipated.

His family's side was chronically constipated.

He had Parkinson's.

He had dementia, dementia.

They all had dementia.

And I was like, whoa, wait a minute.

Maybe there's a link there as well.

Maybe there's a general link to.

Chronic constipation and certain, you know, I don't know what to call it, like

ailments that we don't necessarily know.

Yeah, there's the genetic aspect, but maybe there's also something like, oh,

but if we manage the constipation, there is less chance of you falling down the

same route as your family members, which was really, really interesting to me.

but it's also like causation.

So is the constipation being caused by the dementia?

You know what I mean?

Like, as a physical symptom.

So if you're like, I'm not sure if I have dementia, and you're

like, okay, over the last year, have you gotten more constipated?

You know what I mean?

Is it a side effect of the dementia?

Yeah.

Or is it somehow linked where, if you, cause, you know, I

can see what you just said.

Like, oh, if you're constipated, you should have, you're going to be

having dementia when you're older.

No, but what I meant was, Like, are there links, so, so what I noted down was

like, what other correlations are there to, constipation and certain ailments?

And what are the numbers?

Like, when they're saying there's a correlation, is it that like

20 percent of people with,

Parkinson's?

Have constipation or is it 90 percent right?

Right.

I mean like yeah, so that was a little bit vague for me And I wanted to know

a lot more because constipation is just you know What we talked about at the

dining table with my extended family sadly But also, you know, it's it's

very curious and to your question.

I I I'm stopping to believe that there's a cause and effect.

I feel like everything is just so intertwined that we'll never

be able to find cause and effect.

The entry point, like, was it this or was it that?

It's just so.

It's just like, okay, there's a correlation there.

And maybe again, if we help with the constipation, we focus on the

constipation in a healthy way.

Not like my grandpa did, like shoving a tube of water down his butt and like

letting it all flush out, but rather like.

How do we take care of the chronic issue at hand that will hopefully

help us lower the numbers of chance to get a certain ailment.

Okay, so the next one in terms of what got my mind going was things

actually that were missing completely.

so we've already talked about something that they said and then they kind

of just glossed over it and we wish they would have gone more deep.

But the next one is health related trends that I thought that they should

have talked about, or maybe I would now feel like, how is that connected?

So my brain is trying to make the connection.

So one of the things was like, for example, the acidity of someone's body.

So there's been a lot of, studies or links or trials to say, okay, people

who have a more acidic body tend to have more cancer, so you should try to eat.

foods and drink things that help your body stay more basic.

Right.

Right.

And then I'm thinking like, well, but that's about eating and drinking.

So how is the gut bacteria and your microbiome, how is your microbiome

affecting the acidity of your body?

So that was a big question I had.

Yeah.

And then when I mentioned that, you talked about, The blood test diet.

And I don't remember everything about what, what is,

no, I mean there are so many of them, but there is a school out there

that, that believes in the blood type diet, which means that certain

blood types will need certain foods.

You know, like a certain blood type.

I know that I'm a O negative.

O negative and O positive are more carnivore.

They need the meat to really like thrive and survive versus, um, I think

B, for example, blood type, which Is more towards like vegetarian vegan.

So again to your point.

There's so much information out there.

It will conflict I literally heard yesterday a podcast where they were

talking about how bullshit the acidity thing is because they're like Your

stomach is the most acidic place ever.

Like, no matter what you put in there, it's gonna be like, you know.

Yeah, but that's not the, that's not, that's not how

acidity is tested in the body.

I know, I know.

But what I'm trying to say is there's always going to be someone

debunking something, right?

And always someone having this, like, this idea versus that idea.

So it is very hard to, to focus on one, to pinpoint one, and then to give like

But, but I think the point is, Is our blood type somehow

connected with our microbiome?

You know what I mean?

Again, it's like, okay, if anything, when we're talking about

food, Ayurveda is another one.

Ayurveda, they, uh, they split people into four different types and

they have specific foods, whether you're warm or cool or whatever.

And again, it's like, okay, I want to know what the connection is.

How is that connected maybe with certain type of gut bacteria?

Yeah, so these are just the open questions.

Yeah, then I'm just like yeah, I wanna know

we're requesting hack your health two.

Yeah, I'm gonna send this to Julia Enders It'd be like Julia the next

video, please answer all these questions Okay, we only have a couple more here

but the next one is Was, somewhere about three quarters of the way in,

they were talking about the different variety of foods that you need to eat

to have a healthy, vibrant microbiome.

So, if you're only eating, white pasta and tomato sauce at, you know,

four or five times a week, you're denying your gut a variety of foods.

Um, so, it's, the gut will change to eat.

Those foods that you're changing very quickly, right?

In a day or two, right?

And as you keep doing that, it's going to, the kind of gut bacteria

that needs fruits and vegetables.

And then you will have the type of bacteria and microbiome that thrives

only on white bread and pasta.

And so what they were saying, and I think that this is, again,

it is a blanket statement.

I don't see it as a problem though, but I think it's more of

a, um, a goal people should have.

And because sometimes, and I am guilty of this as well, of getting into my

rut, of my red bell pepper, cucumber, and, cherry tomato salad all summer.

Right.

And I'm like, okay, that's only three.

So my point is that they said 20 to 30 different types of fruits and vegetables

and that, and they were also like beans, legumes, basically whole foods.

Right.

Right.

And that's per week per week.

Yeah.

And I thought, okay, that's great.

But then they didn't really like.

go much past this.

And I'm just like, wait, but what kinds of foods is this?

Like, this is

Exactly, so I'm turning this into a problem where I'm saying

like, yeah, 20 to 30 different.

How do you apply that?

Again, one of the things that bothered me was like, it was so surface level.

Yeah.

But again, we're coming from a different world.

Yeah.

And we're coming from a different world and We already know a bit more.

I mean, we're not saying that we know, we don't know everything,

but like we know a little bit more.

so we're, I think we were itchy to get even more information beyond

the basics that they wanted to deliver to the white audience.

the last thing, and this is going to segue nicely into our next segment,

is They made a specific comment on what is healthy for me, specifically.

And I just really enjoyed that statement.

I kind of felt like they were giving questions and not answers.

Right.

And which, which is true.

Again, to the credit, they can't give answers to what is healthy.

What does health mean for you specifically?

Because it's, it's a documentary and not a doctor, right?

If it was a nutritionist or a health care professional, I would

be like, what's healthy for me.

Okay.

Let's look at our blood test results.

Let's see.

Even if I'm overweight, I'm still healthy.

what is healthy for me specifically?

Right.

Yeah.

And I think this is important to say, cause I don't know

that we mentioned it before.

This documentary takes four very different people with very different

backgrounds with very different issues That they want to attack, right?

So and they put them on a pedestal and say, okay, what are your issues?

what are the steps that we're gonna move forward and they're different.

They're very different So I think although they don't necessarily keep

saying like we're all different.

We're all different.

We're all different You They, tried to show that through showing those

four people from all around the world having all different problems

and what is healthy for each individual is going to be different.

Right.

So, yes.

Yeah, I do think that that needs to go in the check mark.

They did a really good job of coming up with four very

diverse, very gut issued people.

Yeah.

I mean, I've never even heard of somebody who can't feel hunger, but

it made sense for a competitor eater.

Who's always constantly stretching out his stomach and has to

mentally put aside his fullness.

So anyway, not to give too much away.

Cause yeah, we don't have to watch it.

I think, I feel like they chose the right people because I feel like no

matter what situation you're in, you will feel, Like akin to one of those people.

Exactly.

Yeah.

So I think that was why, I really enjoyed seeing different types

of people in their studies.

Okay.

So, one of the things that they did for these four people and that brings

us into our next segment, which is poop alert, poop alert, poop alert,

Listener's discretion is advised.

We are now going to start talking about poop and these four individuals,

what they did is they started them off with a fecal test, a poop

test to test what the bacteria is.

And when I, we first started watching this video, I'm like, Danna, have

you ever had your poop tested?

And your response was

many times,

many times,

many times.

Yes.

So can you please elaborate on.

What is a fecal test?

How do you do it?

They kind of allude to it a little bit in the movie.

Um, but how is it for you?

Like, what did you, what did you do?

I pooped in the tube.

No, I mean, I'm joking.

I mean, how do you poop in a tube?

Do you stick a tube under your butt?

Or did you have to?

Yeah, no, I want the nitty gritty.

If we're going to give the poop a warning alert, we're going to talk.

Did you have to put the poop in your hand?

No.

Okay.

No.

it depends who sends you the test and what they give you as tools.

I just like using a small, paper plate.

Oh.

And I just kind of like, you know, put it between my legs and I collect the poop

and then I put it on, I prepare the space.

So I'll put like, know, a towel or something and then I'll

put that plate on the towel.

I'll finish doing what I'm doing and then I will start scooping it up.

Each test will give you different, instructions, right?

So shake it, don't shake it, put it in the freezer, put it in the fridge,

doesn't matter, but usually there's a tube usually with some liquid in there.

And then probably some, something, right?

I don't know what it is.

And then it goes into yet another tube and, and then a Ziploc bag.

So, you know, to be scared of having it then in your fridge or in your freezer,

it puts your mind at rest a little bit.

not the ones that open the fridge and go, what the fuck is that?

But, you know, for you to go like, well, I did not put poop next to your chicken.

But I find that these poop testings are a huge eye opener because you really

do find out a lot about just your guts.

Again, it depends which test you're doing, but the ones that I did,

I really wanted to know a lot more, like, Is there a leaky gut?

Is there a helicobacter, like a, stomach, ulcers and things like that.

Is there, dysbiosis, which means that your bad gut bacteria

overpowers your good gut bacteria.

You can find out all of that through relatively easy tests that you can

do at the comfort of your own home.

And you can also therefore do it, apply certain things to your gut.

deal with the issue at hand and then test again after six months a year and

see how you're doing which gives you the hope of like okay i'm doing the

right thing like the dysbiosis is not that big or the leaky gut is healing

or yeah a million other things that could be found through these tests.

Yeah.

I think in the movie, they alluded to almost like a paper diaper or like

paper underwear that they put on and then they went over the, like loose.

And so the, like the poop dropped into like the paper.

It's it's paper.

I had that one also.

It's paper that you, you, you, Lift the seat.

Uh huh.

And it's a paper that kind of like exactly it sticks to the seat to the

Bowl, yeah, and then you put down the seat again and you sit down and

it just collects it underneath you.

Okay, the problem there is that like It shouldn't mix with pee.

Oh.

So usually it's a bit of an acrobatic thing, and it's first

thing in the morning usually.

So it's, it's, it's interesting.

It's interesting.

You have to mentally prepare yourself to do it.

It's not like, Oh, I'm just going to walk in and do my poop test.

It's like, you got to prepare a little bit.

Okay.

Sometimes you're asked to neglect certain things, if it's supplements

or certain foods that might kind of skew the test result.

Actually with, with pee, With a poop test.

I don't remember that that's the case, but again, it really depends.

So different labs, different tests will ask for different things and

we'll, you know, we'll give you different props to help you out there.

I have not done a poop test, but I have wanted to do a poop test

And I'm assuming you just get some big report You get a big report.

Yes,

But that's what they did for these people.

They did this poop report and then they got on the phone with some of

the people who were in the video.

So, in the documentary, the scientists and doctors, and then they just walked

through with them to kind of come up with a plan this is what you can do.

I think that's great.

They also, segwaying a little bit, into, poop transfers, like transplants, and

they talked about this mice twin study.

That was so amazing.

I loved it.

I wanted everyone in the world to just hear about that study alone.

Yeah.

So it was a twin study, where one twin was, human twins, was

obese and the other one was not.

And, they didn't really talk a lot about the study, but what they did say is that

they took the fecal, sample from the obese twin, and they put it into, a mouse And

then with the skinny twin and the mice, the one who had the fecal transplant from

the obese twin became an obese mouse.

Yeah.

Which is insane.

It is.

It is insane.

We will never, I don't think any, 99.

9 percent of obese people out there do not sit there and go like, Oh, my God.

But it's a gut, like I have probably the wrong gut bacteria or something is,

you know, something is pushing it there.

It's always like either guilt or either shame or whatever it is.

And I feel like you need to see this because you need to understand

that there is so much there.

There's a whole entire world in our gut and they're pulling the strings

and we need to understand also What those are and how we can help

people, you know, and that struggle

and then the last part of the poop thing was so they started talking about

this fecal transplant and then one of the last person that they Exposed

in this documentary she had tried so many things and got so nowhere.

She could eat nothing almost, which is very similar to my story, but

we'll get into it another time.

Yeah.

She decided that she would do a fecal transplant from her brother and she did.

And this is where like kind of the gross thing comes in in the movie because

they actually show like a frozen turd.

Being zipped up into a blender.

Yeah, let's start with it's It's, the poop is coming out of the fridge, and

the boyfriend goes like it's next to our chicken, and then they put it in

the blender, and then afterwards they put it in the freezer, and he goes

like, right next to the ice cream we're going to eat, so I think his

commentary was making it even worse.

Yeah, it was.

But anyways, it's in her kitchen.

She's filling up.

Yeah.

Capsules.

Capsules.

So she's taking capsules and she said she would take them.

I think she took them both orally and anally.

I think she, maybe it was just anally.

I don't know.

She didn't really go into it.

It was very short segment compared to the other three

people that they did the piece on.

but what was interesting about it in terms of our poop topic of this is that her

brother had acne and when she had acne and when she started doing fecal transplants

from her brother to help her gut biosis then she started getting acne, right?

Okay.

And she was feeling better.

She was able to eat better.

So a lot of things actually got better.

but she also got his acne.

So then she tried to do this fecal transplant with her boyfriend.

I mean, her boyfriend,

that's a guy to marry.

First of all,

it is.

Yeah.

Winner.

Green flag all the way.

If he's like, yes, filling up the poop.

But the problem was is that she had mild depression.

No, no, she did.

She said it got worse when she took her boyfriend's poop because

he had more severe depression.

Right.

She's like, I can handle mild depression and acne.

I can't handle severe depression.

So she went back to her brother.

But they even tell you in the movie, like, do not DIY this yourself.

So I'm actually surprised that they showed her DIYing it.

Yeah.

When they said, don't DIY it.

Well, because kind of a conflict there, but yeah, it was I thought it was an

interesting thing that they added Yeah, and I think the whole point to drive

home right is that your ability to do things is Impacted by your gut, whether

that's to gain weight, to lose weight, depression, anxiety, a lot of things.

so I think that's pretty much what we wanted to cover in terms of the three main

things big areas, problems we had, things we wanted to know more about, and poop.

So, and other shit, and other shit.

So to wrap this up, then we really wanted to tell you who

we thought this movie was for.

So if you haven't seen this movie yet, My recommendation when I got done watching

this, the very first thing I wrote down is that this Movie is for people who

know absolutely nothing about their gut and they're like, oh, I've heard

this gut thing I want to learn a little bit about my gut right and They don't

want to read a book because the book is really really great book is amazing.

I think the book has a lot more information But they did a really good

job of transferring the information that she was made very readable

in the book to a very digestible, understandable documentary.

And very entertaining as well.

Very entertaining.

They did all this felt stop motion animation.

Oh my god, it was so funny.

Yeah, it was just giddy every time it came back on.

I was like beautiful.

so I think it's for those people and I also think it's actually a really good

movie taken in chunks for children of all ages because of the animations and

because of the way they describe things, I wouldn't recommend the whole movie

because not everything like the, the expose is on each of those four people.

Maybe not a kid, maybe not really cares that much, but to

understand how the gut works,

they go like, I want to be a competitive eater.

Oh yeah.

That looks like fun.

I can eat all the hotdogs I want.

So who is the movie not for?

I don't know if it's not for people who are knowledgeable,

but take it with a grain of salt because as we experienced it.

It was a fun and entertaining way, to listen in on, new

science and stuff like that.

But, I think it was a bit like almost redundant.

Most of the information there was a bit redundant.

For people who have done research and got Yeah, like if you have

never read anything about the gut.

Yeah, you will find this incredibly insightful.

Yes There's so much good information, right?

But if you have done some knowledge, yeah, exactly Then it's not

going to be anything new for you.

It's just going to be an entertaining way to refresh

Yeah or if you want somebody else to know about the gut.

Yes.

That's why I watched it That is a great recommendation for a movie.

I want to see something that I can feel comfortable You Showing to my

clients or telling my clients to go and watch and I would happily tell

them to go and watch this video Right.

I agree 100% Watch the video.

If you, if you don't care about your gut, watch the video especially.

Yeah.

Because you will start to care about your gut afterwards.

That's what I think is the most special thing is the way that

Julia Enders talks about her gut.

It's like she's talking about her best friend.

I know it's really cute.

She's so tender.

She's just like, you just

like, I even love my butthole.

She's adorkable.

We said it at the beginning.

We're wrapping it up with the same thing.

She's super adorkable.

Yeah.

And she really does, you know, make it seem like, look, you gotta love

every single part, even your butthole.

And it's true.

It is true.

And there's no shame in loving your butthole.

No.

That's where we end.

Okay.