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#146. Before You Give Up on the Church… Listen to This
Church Leadership Episode 14610th February 2026 • Our Urban Voices • Dr. Alfonse Javed
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Does the church still matter in our modern world?

After waves of disillusionment, #churchtoo movements, and political divides, it’s easy to question the value of investing in the church.

Dr Carmen Joy Imes (PhD, Wheaton) is associate professor of Old Testament at Biola University. She is the author of Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters, Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters, and the editor of Praying the Psalms with Augustine and Friends. Her new book is Becoming God’s Family: Why the Church Still Matters.

Book: Becoming God’s Family: Why the Church Still Matters

Dr Carmen Imes' Blog

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:

  1. Understanding Our Identity as Being Part of God's Family
  2. Why Do People Think God and Church Are Not Relevant?
  3. Helping People Who Have Been Hurt by the Church

ABOUT THE GUEST:

Dr Carmen Joy Imes (PhD, Wheaton) is associate professor of Old Testament at Biola University. She is the author of Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters, Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters, and the editor of Praying the Psalms with Augustine and Friends. Her new book is Becoming God’s Family: Why the Church Still Matters.

RELATED LINKS:

  1. Dr Carmen Imes, Biola University
  2. Book: Becoming God’s Family: Why the Church Still Matters
  3. Dr Carmen Imes' Blog

TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

00:38 - Introducing Dr Carmen Imes

02:40 - God's Heart for Family

02:56 - ...God creates a world and intends for everyone to flourish

03:07 - ...God's plan to save the world begins with a family

04:04 - ...Jesus is the new Adam and the pathway that we become God's family

04:27 - Understanding Our Identity as Being Part of God's Family

04:50 - ...every human being is the image of God

05:32 - ...we are estranged from God so we don't live as God's family

06:22 - ...seeing people as potential siblings

08:57 - ...western church needs to learn that God works through people who have no power

10:57 - ...Esther and Daniel model two different ways of navigating faith under oppressive empires

11:47 - Why Do People Think God and Church Are Not Relevant?

12:20 - ...individualism

13:01 - ...quest for happiness

14:05 - ...but encouragingly, religion is no longer a private matter, but people want to know what you believe

16:35 - ...to share in the sufferings of others is part of what it means to become part of God's family

18:03 - ...the most effective form of evangelism right now is coming alongside people who are in sorrow

19:16 - The Church Addressing the Need for Community and Connection

19:56 - ...the church is not for "making me a better me," but for becoming part of a family

20:24 - ...if we don't connect, we still feel lonely

21:20 - ...we are all equipped to serve each other

21:54 - Helping People Who Have Been Hurt by the Church

22:18 - ...don't rush past the hurt

22:29 - ...how do our communities become malformed?

23:11 - ...look honestly at the hurt and the harm

26:20 - ..."smaller" reasons that draw people away from church

27:46 - ...the goal is to find a healthy community to join

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