Just as sewing helps heal us, so does music. As Lisa takes a moment to catch up on some self-care the Stitch Please Podcast is proud to present Queue Points and an episode of their Slow Jams Can Heal Us series:

Slow Jams, Intimacy and Lyrics That Touch the Soul (Guest: Latrice Sampson Richards)

In this episode of Queue Points Podcast, DJ Sir Daniel and Jay Ray are joined by special guest Latrice Sampson Richards. The conversation focuses on the themes of lyrics and intimacy in music, exploring personal and societal healing through slow jams and other styles of music. Latrice shares her thoughts on the emotional connections that music can foster, and the ability to help us collectively heal. The three share lyrics that have shaped their lives, revealing the deep connections they have with music and its power to express complex emotions.

Tune In To Our “Slow Jams Can Heal Us” Series: https://qpnt.net/slowjamsseries

Listen to “Lyrics & Lessons” by Latrice Sampson Richards: https://qpnt.net/lsrlyricsplaylist

Latrice Sampson Richards Bio

Latrice Sampson Richards is an award-winning podcast producer, host, and speaker with a 14-year background as a dual-licensed mental health counselor. With an in-depth understanding of the human experience, Latrice creates content that blends thoughtfulness, healing, and entertainment, resonating deeply with audiences. Latrice has elevated the podcasting landscape by creating opportunities for podcasters and brands to connect with their audiences via immersive live events and shows through her production company, Pod Melanin. Her work is marked by collaboration with renowned brands such as Afros & Audio, Black Podcasters Association, Black Podcasting Awards, Women of Color Podcasters, Black Women Stitch, She Podcasts, Libsyn, Acast, and The Qube. She has curated live podcasting events and shows nationwide, serving as a catalyst for authentic connection and community building.

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Lisa Woolfork is an associate professor of English specializing in African American literature and culture. Her teaching and research explore Black women writers, Black identity, trauma theory, and American slavery. She is the founder of Black Women Stitch, the sewing group where Black lives matter. She is also the host/producer of Stitch Please, a weekly audio podcast that centers on Black women, girls, and femmes in sewing. In the summer of 2017, she actively resisted the white supremacist marches in her community, Charlottesville, Virginia. The city became a symbol of lethal resurging white supremacist violence. She remains active in a variety of university and community initiatives, including the Community Engaged Scholars program. She believes in the power of creative liberation.

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Um, unfortunately we do have to say goodbye to another legend.

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We want to pay homage to the, to an iconic force in the music of gospel.

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Sandra Crouch passed away not too long ago.

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Sandra Crouch is of course the twin sister to gospel giant.

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Andre Crouch, twin sister.

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And she recently passed away.

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Um, you know, sending much love to our friend Kipper Jones.

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Cause that was, um, his aunt and uncle.

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And now, you know, I spoke to him and he was like, you know, now my aunt

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and uncle are back together again.

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So sending much love to uncle Kipper and all the members of the Crouch family.

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But J Ray, Sandra and Andre really changed the face of gospel music.

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Sandra Crouch.

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Was an enormous singer of in her own right musician.

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People don't know that she played tambourine on the Jackson five

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records on some Jackson five records.

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And she sang, she brought all of, she brought a lot of her

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brother's songs to life, but.

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They have such a legacy and part of that legacy is this, is it

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within the songwriting and lyrics?

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And that's what we're going to talk about on this episode of Queue Points.

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We are discussing lyrics and specifically Lyrics and intimacy, um, because

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as Jay Ray mentioned, we are on, we are on a Slow Jams can heal us kick.

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And part of that, that campaign is to rediscover what we're not saying to each

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other or why we're not able to say to each other through the music anymore.

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The music was a way for people to, to put.

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Words to how they were feeling when they couldn't do it.

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So there might've been a song that you could use to express

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your feelings to someone.

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And it's not necessarily as nice anymore.

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So we're going to, it's not.

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So we're exploring that and helping us tonight is a very special guest, Jerry.

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Okay, guys, we've been really, really, really excited about having this guest

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on because she is so accomplished.

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Mm hmm.

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DJ Sir Daniel: And Jerry is actually going to run down like her resume and run

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down the pedigree because we are super honored by who we're being joined tonight.

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Jerry, take it away.

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Absolutely.

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Um, as Sir Daniel said, we, uh, Met this person actually a couple of

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years ago now and have been really excited to have her on the show.

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But I want to read the bio of Latrice Sampson Richards.

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Latrice is an award winning podcast producer, host, and speaker with

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a 14 year background as a dual licensed mental health counselor.

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With an in depth understanding of the human experience, Latrice creates

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content that blends thoughtfulness, healing, and entertainment,

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resonating deeply with audience.

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Latrice has elevated the podcasting landscape by creating opportunities

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for podcasters and brands to connect with their audiences via immersive

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live events and shows through her production company, PodMelanin.

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Her work is marked by a collaboration with renowned brands, such as Afros and

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Audio, Black Podcasters Association, Black Podcasting Awards, Women in

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Color Podcasters, Black Women's Stitch, ShePodcasts, Lipsyn, Acast, and more.

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And the cube, she has curated live podcasting events and shows nationwide

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serving as a catalyst for authentic connection and community building.

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So listen, if we was in person, we would say get on your feet, stand up.

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Welcome to Queue Points Latrice.

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Samson Richards,

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DJ Sir Daniel: Put your hands together.

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Come on now.

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Y'all can do better than that.

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You can

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Yeah.

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DJ Sir Daniel: than that.

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Come on now.

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What's happening in the

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Y'all sure know how to make a

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girl feel good about herself.

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I was listening to that resume and I was like, damn, who that girl is?

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And I wrote the damn thing.

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Listen.

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it's you

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Okay.

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I'm so excited to be here with y'all tonight.

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This has been a long time coming.

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Uh, and so I'm, I'm just super duper excited to be here with y'all.

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Um,

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DJ Sir Daniel: The feeling is mutual.

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We're so happy to have you here Latrice to discuss this, um, to discuss this

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topic about lyrics and how they affect us.

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And, Why are people apparently so afraid of intimacy anymore?

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Latrice Sampson Richards: I think Most people, there's a

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lot of different reasons, right?

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Everybody has a different reason as to why they may struggle with intimacy.

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But I think that if we really took a step back and looked at the total sum

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of those reasons, it really comes down to the fact that intimacy has not been

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a positive experience in their lives.

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Right.

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So the intimacy that they have experienced has been difficult for them.

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It has hurt physically, spiritually, emotionally.

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Um, they, the, the people that they thought they could trust, the people

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that they thought were supposed to take care of them did not.

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Um, the people that they loved, that they trusted.

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Whether they chose to love or they were just, you know, supposed to love

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just cause that's what it, that's what it is, um, ended up failing them

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in some way, shape, form or fashion.

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Um, and so people struggle with intimacy because their experience

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of intimacy has been negative in some way, shape, form or fashion.

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Right.

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And so in order for us to, to get on the other side of that, we, we have to

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one speak it, we have to acknowledge it.

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We have to say, you know, that person that, that I was, I

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thought that I could trust.

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I put my trust in that person.

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I stepped out on a limb and I took a chance on on loving that person or,

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you know, This, my family, this, my blood, the people who were divinely

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charged with the responsibility of taking care of me, they failed me.

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And that's fucked up

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Mm-Hmm?

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Latrice Sampson Richards: is fucked up that I had to go through that, right?

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Like just call it out and acknowledge that this is why I am struggling

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with intimacy because you cannot address the thing until you.

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Or can first acknowledge that it is a thing that needs to be addressed.

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Wow.

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Latrice, yes to all of that and what's, what I love about your response is

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it also explains why , having songs that feed us these lessons are really

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important because here's the thing.

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I can, I know for a fact that I learned lessons in love and life.

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Because of the music I was listening to it wasn't I was too young to know

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what it all meant in some cases, right?

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But when I got there, I was able to put like, Oh, that's what that feeling is that

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that's what that song was talking about.

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And.

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Even those moments in songs where you just like, no, I played

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this song because I need to.

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It takes me back to a point in time where this song is the

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thing that comforts me when I go through a situation like X, right?

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Nerd out

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Latrice Sampson Richards: That is biologic.

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That is how human beings function, right?

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So, I, I'm not going to nerd out completely on y'all.

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I mean,

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DJ Sir Daniel: No, please, please, please give it to us.

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Come on.

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Why we got you here?

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Okay.

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I'll be

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DJ Sir Daniel: Why are you?

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Why we got you here?

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You got to do it.

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Come on.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Listen, but the, the long and short of it is that

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in the, in the study of memory, right, because there's an entire study of human

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memory and how do we form memories?

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How do we decide what memories need to be kept and what memory?

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Because think about.

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You experience millions of stimuli a day

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Mm.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: from touch, feel, smell, sight, taste,

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Mm hmm.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: at all times, you are taking in

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information, at all times, okay?

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That's a lot of shit to process.

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You can't remember all of it.

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You know what I'm saying?

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It is just not, it's, it's, it's not logical.

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It's not feasible.

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The brain is not built.

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Like that, right?

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And so what our brains do for us is they essentially Categorize the things that

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we're taking in, and they categorize in order of importance, and that order is

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based on first and foremost survival,

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Mhm.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: right?

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What are the memories that I need to pull up immediately in a

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life or death situation, right?

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So that's what we call instincts.

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Yes.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Then, you know, love and belonging,

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relationships, connection.

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And then we look at, you know, self actualization and, you know, the higher,

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it's Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

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Look it up.

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Okay.

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It's foundational.

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Okay.

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Um, and it, it really, people need to know it, people, we need to understand

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it so we can give ourselves a break.

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I mean, let's just be real.

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So the memory research shows that.

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Memory can be altered with the addition of sound, right?

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So memory can be altered.

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So what can, you can be conditioned to react a certain way, to respond

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a certain way, to recall a certain message by hearing a certain sound.

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That can be a song, that can be a bell, that can be, you know, yelling,

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Mhm.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Because over time we start to generalize.

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these things, right?

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So that's the, you know, that's the nuts and bolts of it.

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That is like the ridiculously simplified version of that.

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Right.

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But I share that to say that

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DJ Sir Daniel: I'm sorry,

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Latrice Sampson Richards: come on, because black folks is having a

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hard time letting go of the aura,

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are ha Baby, it is a sh The kids is out here struggling.

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They like, I wanna step in the name

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of

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Latrice Sampson Richards: a

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I'm like, Don't play

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Latrice Sampson Richards: a part of our lives.

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He done been at our weddings.

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He done been at our funerals.

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You know, he done been at our, we graduated to the aura.

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You know, all of, all of the major moments of our lives.

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He was

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Right!

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Mmm.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: to get rid of him is is it almost feels like getting

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rid of all of our happy memories, all of the things that bring us joy, all

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of the things that bring us peace.

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You get what I'm saying?

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Because in our minds, those, the lyrics, the songs, the vibrations, the

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tunes, the tones, it is intertwined.

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Like there is no separation in that memory.

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Does that make sense?

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It really does and that gets to the complexity of even the conversation

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that we're having here because The lyrics are one thing and then you have

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all the stuff that surrounds it, right?

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I know for a fact that the songs that mean the most to me the first note Is

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going to be like nope, that's it and You kind of know even when you hear something

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new that you've never heard before That when it's going to do that to you, right?

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Because there is something in that vibration In that tone that you like,

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I don't know what they about to do but that that first bar just Sent me in so

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I'm a wait and see what's next.

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And sir, Daniel, that actually brings up an interesting point for you as a DJ.

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I'm sure that's part of it, right?

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Cause you know, pretty quickly, how quickly do you know if a song is about

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to, to, to hit for you as a DJ or not?

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How quickly do you

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DJ Sir Daniel: Like within the first four counts, like you just,

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there's just certain things you can, well, I'll speak for me.

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Like I can pick, I pick up on a vibration of a song and I can already tell, okay,

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this is going to make me happy, or this is going to make me want to take a beer

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bottle and smash it over somebody's head.

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And there are.

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Much more songs now that lead to the latter of what I said, you know,

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that make you want to, uh, crack bottles over people's heads more

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than to kiss and hug on somebody.

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And, you know, I think, I don't know.

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It's that vibration, uh, within the intentions of what people,

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how people create their music now.

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And Latrice, you actually, you backed that up just now by,

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by speaking about, um, how.

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How sounds can, can bring up memories and whatnot.

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And I think what's happening is a lot of, maybe a lot of musicians are trying to

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process, trying to process through their music and they're making music that we,

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and maybe we just have a whole generation that is trying to process the traumas that

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they've experienced through their music.

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And we're, and they're just hitting us like with all the

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trauma and none of the joy.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Yeah.

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Well, and we, but we've seen that throughout history.

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You know, we have seen that throughout history.

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Look how well documented the civil rights movement is.

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The civil rights movement is very well documented.

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It's in the music.

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It's in the movies.

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It's in the television shows.

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It's in the pictures, the fashion, right?

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It's, it's in.

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Every single aspect of creativity, there is some aspect of the

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civil rights movement and I would even say the 70s as a whole.

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The 70s is one of my favorite generations.

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I feel like, yeah, like I just, I just, it speaks to me.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Um, but the, what was being created at the time is a direct

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reflection of the sentiment of the people who were creating it.

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That's what the people was going through at the time, right?

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This goal was about trying to find joy.

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Because everything was so fucked up and it was so much tension and it was so much.

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So the disco people was like, fuck all that.

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I'm just going to live.

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I'm just going to be in joy and peace.

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And I'm just going to be like, yeah, let's do this.

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Right.

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But then you also have.

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You know, you got that, you know, power to the people kind of music as well.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like you got the, the tracks like Nina Simone, who, you

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know, is like Mississippi.

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God damn.

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I don't even know if that was the sixties or the seventies,

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but you get what I'm saying?

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Like the, it is chronicled in the music, what the people were.

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Expressing at the time.

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And so it kind of becomes like a time capsule in its, in its own way.

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And I think that's what we're seeing right now.

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You know, The world is on fire.

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People are struggling.

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People are struggling emotionally.

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People are tired.

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People are burnt out.

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out that everybody's on edge.

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Everybody's scared.

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We rubbing pennies together.

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Rob and Peter trying to pay pal, you know, it's, it's a hard time right now.

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And we're seeing that I think come out in the music, but

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we're also seeing let's heal.

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Let's love less, you know, we the shit, you know, like a, like, don't

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let's let us not forget who we are.

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Keep your head up.

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You know, like we getting both sides of that.

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And.

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I think it's, it's also a time capsule of what's going on right now.

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I feel like this is a good time to talk about, what do you

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think to talk about some lyrics.

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To talk about songs?

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DJ Sir Daniel: Like, I am very curious.

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I'm very curious to hear from both of you about a lyric that just

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shot an arrow through your heart and just never, never left you.

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Like, it doesn't, it doesn't necessarily have to be a ballad or slow jam, but it's

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something when you, when you, when you.

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When you faded out the music and you filtered out the music, there

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was something about that lyric that just stuck with you and whoever

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wants to go first, go first, matter of fact, ladies first, Latrice.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: I have two.

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So what are we going to do?

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Like a little round table.

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Y'all want me to give y'all mine right now?

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You can give me If I do one and you do one?

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How's that How's that feel?

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Okay.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Well, okay.

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First of all, it's not fair.

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I know we're asking you to To do the impossible.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: It's not fair because I was just like, what

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are they even talking about one song?

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Like, what are you serious right now?

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Like, are you serious for real?

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But it did send me down the rabbit hole because I'm like, okay, if I

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have to, if I can only choose one song, then it, you know, obviously

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it needs to be the song that.

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I think has had the biggest impact on my life and I am very

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clear on what song that is.

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So I'm going to share my one song.

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How long is a lyric?

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You can You want to give us the first The first The first verse?

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Latrice Sampson Richards: No, not the first verse.

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I want to give the last verse and the chorus.

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do Do your thing.

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That's

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Okay.

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All right.

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So the, my song choice.

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is I Choose by Thee, India Iree.

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Mhm.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: hits on my top list, okay?

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But this is actually my, like, favorite song of all time.

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Um, and, you know, I'll, I'll do the lyric first and then I'll talk about

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a little bit of briefly about why.

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So this is, I want to say this is the last verse.

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Yes, this is the last verse of the song and then it closes out with the chorus.

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So she says, From this day forward, I'm going to be exactly who I am.

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I don't need to change the way that I live just to get a man.

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No.

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I even had a talk with my mama and I, and I told her today,

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I'm grown from this day forward.

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Every decision that I make will be my own.

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And hey, I choose to be the best that I can be.

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This is the chorus now.

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I choose to be courageous in everything I do.

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My past don't dictate who I am.

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I choose because you never know where life is going to take you and

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you can't change where you've been.

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But today I have the opportunity to choose.

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I used to have guilt about the way things, about why things happen the way they did,

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because life is going to do what it do.

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And every day I have the opportunity to choose.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Mic drop, mic drop right there.

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And you know, India has always been prolific, but talk about why I think,

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I think it's pretty self explanatory why that means a lot to you, but

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please break it down for us, for the

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Latrice Sampson Richards: It means a lot to me because

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DJ Sir Daniel: Okay.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: a life lesson that you get to choose to, you

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get to choose no matter what it is.

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If it's relationship, you don't have to wait for somebody to choose you.

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You get to choose to, if it's a career decision, you don't have

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to wait for them to choose you.

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You get to.

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Two, you get to choose to say, I am not engaging in this and you get to choose

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to say, I am going to engage in this.

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It is a choice.

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And I think a lot of times myself, you know, I'm a very emotional person.

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I mean, I don't already dropped a tear tonight.

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Y'all crying.

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Okay.

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I'll be crying.

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It is what it is.

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Okay.

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it took me a long time.

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To be okay with that, the fact that that's who I am and to not feel shame or guilt

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around that and feeling like I had to be who other people needed me to be in order

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to be in relationship, in order to be loved, in order to be accepted, in order

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to be understood, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, in order to just not be alone.

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You know?

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And And this song came to me in a time in my life where I was for the first time in

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my life on an intentional healing journey, you know, like intentionally trying to

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take the reins of my life and heal myself.

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And so hearing that message that I get to choose.

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It was just, you know, it was, it was profound.

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And so it is, uh, you know, it's kind of like my motto is how I live my life.

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And it's, um, I tell it to people all the time, like you get to choose to,

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Yeah.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: you don't, you don't have to just let life do

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whatever they want to do to you.

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You get to choose how you feel about it.

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You get to choose how you respond to it.

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You get to choose whether or not it, it gets to exist in your life.

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Wow.

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Wow, wow, wow.

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Thank you.

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Latrice for sharing that, um,

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listen.

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So the song I picked, uh, two songs and I could have picked more, but

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I'm like, I'm going to pick these two.

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And the way I selected my songs was I went to my last FM profile.

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So for at least for probably almost the last decade, I've been on

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occasion tracking what I listened to.

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So I've had like 20, 000 tracks of songs.

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Um, Over time.

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And so what it, what it did, what it does is it tells you like, okay,

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here's who you have listened to, like the most, or here's what you play.

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So anyway, uh, my most listened to artist, I think I may have mentioned this

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on the show when we talked about this artist, but it's the foreign exchange.

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So I was like, I do listen to a lot of foreign exchange.

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So I went back into the catalog and the first song I selected.

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It's such a beautiful piece.

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It's called the city ain't the same without you.

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It was written by Fante.

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Um, the lyrics are by Fante and it was produced by Nicolay.

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So the duo, the song was actually sung by Yaza Ra.

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Shout out to Yaza Ra for her brilliance.

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Um, but I'm going to read this beautiful first verse that Fante wrote.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Mm-Hmm.

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It was cold outside so I thought I'd get away To the one place

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where I'd be warm Spent my last few dollars on a ticket to fly Oh, I'ma

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take a jet plane to carry me straight to your arms And when the wheels touched

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down, I called for you Said, baby, I'm here all for you And you let me know

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that you were with her And it made me wonder, baby, are we still in love?

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And then I thought to myself, maybe we never were.

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This song like that, that, that, that's the opening of the song.

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There's, and the music bed is just kind of, Yazzara's voice and the keyboards.

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There's no rhythm section yet.

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So she's singing these words.

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Almost like she's talking them and then it goes into and I've got my and I've

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only got myself to And I've only got myself to blame for painting these skies

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with your name and it's a cry and shame The city ain't the same without you and

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This song I love a good Um love song This is about heartbreak, but it's also this

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person having this realization about the, the, the experience they were having.

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And they're reminiscing about this love lost.

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this love gone.

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And, um, and that's okay.

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Like there's no positive resolution to this.

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This person's in a city to see someone that is not seeing them.

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And, um, I am always moved.

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Every time I hear it, um, it gave me some more language, you know, these

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songs we go through things in life and you're like, Oh my God, I know.

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I don't know this feeling, but I know what this would feel

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like, you know what I'm saying?

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Latrice Sampson Richards: emotion is universal and that

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is another basic human truth.

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Emotion is universal.

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A smile is a smile.

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In America, it's a smile.

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In Japan, it's a smile In Afghanistan, it's a smile.

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Anywhere, Antarctica, wherever, wherever you go in the world,

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okay, anywhere on this planet, a smile means the same thing, right?

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So emotion is universal.

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We may not have the same experiences, but we understand the emotion of it all.

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Mm-Hmm.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: And I think that's why music allows us to come

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together, because it communicates.

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Emotion, and we all understand emotion.

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Mm-Hmm.

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? Latrice Sampson Richards: Yeah.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Y'all got it.

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Ooh.

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Y'all doing it.

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Let me tell you something.

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Everybody we're ministering on this episode of Queue Points.

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You see how quiet it got?

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Everybody's just processing everything.

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And no, but, and that's what a good lyric will do to you.

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It will resonate with something within you.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Mm

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DJ Sir Daniel: so, um, I'm going to go to the seventies.

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Um for my lyric and It's from the voices of east harlem

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Mm-Hmm.

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DJ Sir Daniel: and it's a song called right on be free And i'm just

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going to read to you the the first.

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Um the first bar Um, I want to go where the north wind blows.

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I want to know what the falcon knows I want to go where the wild goose goes High

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flying bird, high flying bird, fly on.

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I want the clouds over my head.

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I don't want no store bought bed.

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I'm going to live until I'm dead.

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Mother, mother, mother, mother, save your child.

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Ride on, be free.

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Ride on, be free.

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I don't want no store bed right on I want the clouds over my head, be free.

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And it's, it's really simple what that song is about.

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Of course, it was, um, recorded in the early seventies.

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And of course, you know, we were coming, you know, Like in truth,

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you talked about the, um, the, the black power movements of that time.

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And of course, but the, the world specifically our country was struggling,

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was being strangled by the Vietnam war was strangled by poverty, um, unemployment,

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all the things that you can think of that we're still dealing with here.

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We're not dealing with that now, but there's something about

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that lyric that speaks to my.

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Desire for escapism or, and my desire for change and transformation.

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And so that spoke to me and it spoke to my, um, just my capacity to dream

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Mm

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DJ Sir Daniel: to, to, to, to, to, to want more.

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And that's why that, that speaks to me.

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And it, you know, things like those, and those are the types of song

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lyrics that really speak to me.

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And if somebody is really like singing it.

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And really doing it like the vocalist was doing it.

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If you look, there's a live performance by the voices of East Harlem.

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They went to a prison

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to, to perform this song.

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These are kids.

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And when I tell you, they were singing their faces off and they were

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singing light, they were singing, like the rent was past due and like

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they hadn't eaten in two weeks.

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I mean, they were singing.

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And so

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Latrice Sampson Richards: They was sangin

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DJ Sir Daniel: it and the, and there's, there's something about

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that that's just undeniable to me and will always resonate with me.

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And so that's just, that's a lyric that I wanted to share with you and

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the listeners, just to get a little insight into Sir Daniel a little

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bit, because, and, and I love that about how all of all three of us came

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with something completely different.

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You know, we got unrequited love.

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We've got, um, self love.

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And then we have imagination, imagination, and wanted to be free.

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And all of them coincide with each other.

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Right.

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If I take control, I choose, I can choose to take those steps to help me be free.

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Yeah.

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Mm-Hmm.

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DJ Sir Daniel: And you know, unrequited love.

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Let's not even talk about it.

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I don't even want to go down that route because that's the thing.

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That is definitely a thing.

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But Jerry, we're.

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Let, let's get Latrice to do one more because she is our guest and we go

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and we go close it out after Latrice hits us with her next favorite lyric.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: OK, so, since I can only do one more,

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But here's the thing, Latrice, so we can include your other ones in

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our newsletter, so then our folks who are part of our newsletter can get it.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: you know what I was thinking, too?

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I was thinking that maybe we could do a Spotify playlist.

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Of course.

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Absolutely.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: We can do a Spotify

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DJ Sir Daniel: in our language.

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Yes.

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Latrice Sampson Richards: and y'all can go and add that playlist to your

Jay Ray: 00:38:11

list and you can see what lyrics Treece has gained lessons from.

Jay Ray: 00:38:19

Absolutely.

Jay Ray: 00:38:20

Yes.

Jay Ray: 00:38:21

Mm-Hmm.

Jay Ray: 00:38:22

Latrice Sampson Richards: this one I'm throwing in here, right, is not, not

Jay Ray: 00:38:26

necessarily like in my top 10 list, but I, I genuinely believe, I genuinely believe

Jay Ray: 00:38:35

that we Can and should stretch ourselves musically because I think it helps us

Jay Ray: 00:38:48

to understand and or discover new parts and pieces of ourselves, of who we are.

Jay Ray: 00:38:55

Nobody is all one thing.

Jay Ray: 00:38:57

Nobody is all, you know, a certain kind of way.

Jay Ray: 00:39:01

The reality is that we are multifaceted individuals.

Jay Ray: 00:39:05

That is who we are as humans.

Jay Ray: 00:39:07

And so we have to have some diversity in our musical selection that

Jay Ray: 00:39:14

feeds the different parts of us.

Jay Ray: 00:39:17

Yes,

Jay Ray: 00:39:18

Oh, I want to know what this is

Jay Ray: 00:39:19

Latrice Sampson Richards: all in agreement with that.

Jay Ray: 00:39:21

DJ Sir Daniel: I'm ready for it

Jay Ray: 00:39:22

Latrice Sampson Richards: That being said,

Jay Ray: 00:39:26

I want to know what Latrice about to

Jay Ray: 00:39:28

Latrice Sampson Richards: my second song choice is Love Me by Lil Wayne.

Jay Ray: 00:39:40

DJ Sir Daniel: didn't see that one coming hit us with it.

Jay Ray: 00:39:51

Latrice Sampson Richards: I think this is the chorus.

Jay Ray: 00:39:52

This is the first chorus, or it's just the chorus.

Jay Ray: 00:39:54

Whatever.

Jay Ray: 00:39:56

Lil Wayne says, Yeah, long as my bitches love me.

Jay Ray: 00:40:02

I could give a fuck about no hater, long as my bitches love me.

Jay Ray: 00:40:07

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jay Ray: 00:40:10

Eardrummers.

Jay Ray: 00:40:12

Yeah, I could give a fuck about no nigga, long as my bitches love me.

Jay Ray: 00:40:17

Love me.

Jay Ray: 00:40:20

Listen, that's a word.

Jay Ray: 00:40:24

Okay?

Jay Ray: 00:40:26

That's a word.

Jay Ray: 00:40:27

Because, and I'm being for real, we laughing, but I'm being for real.

Jay Ray: 00:40:32

I get a physical reaction every time I hear Lil Wayne say that line.

Jay Ray: 00:40:37

Long as my bitches love me.

Jay Ray: 00:40:39

Because at the end of the day, it don't matter who else fuck with you.

Jay Ray: 00:40:48

If the people you fuck with, fuck with you.

Jay Ray: 00:40:53

Don't matter what nobody else got to say, long as my bitches love me,

Jay Ray: 00:40:58

Mhm.

Jay Ray: 00:40:59

Latrice Sampson Richards: I give a fuck about what you gotta say, I give a fuck

Jay Ray: 00:41:02

about how you feel because the people who know me, the people who appreciate me, the

Jay Ray: 00:41:10

people who love me, as long as they fuck with me, then I'm going to be all right.

Jay Ray: 00:41:18

DJ Sir Daniel: Silence.

Jay Ray: 00:41:18

Latrice Sampson Richards: And I think it's important for us.

Jay Ray: 00:41:20

To be reminded of that, because we spend a lot of time trying

Jay Ray: 00:41:26

to get people to choose us.

Jay Ray: 00:41:30

We spend a lot of time trying to convince people, and I'm talking to myself as

Jay Ray: 00:41:36

much as I'm talking to anybody else.

Jay Ray: 00:41:39

We, I spend a lot of time, right?

Jay Ray: 00:41:45

Well, I can't say a lot because I be learning the lesson, but I used to

Jay Ray: 00:41:50

spend a lot of time trying to get people to just accept me for who I am and to

Jay Ray: 00:41:58

be okay with the reality of who I am.

Jay Ray: 00:42:02

And this song reminds me that it don't matter if they do or they

Jay Ray: 00:42:09

don't, because the ones who fuck with me, they fuck with me for real.

Jay Ray: 00:42:13

And as long as I got them, I don't need none of that other stuff.

Jay Ray: 00:42:18

I'm going to be okay.

Jay Ray: 00:42:20

I have my community.

Jay Ray: 00:42:21

It's small, but it is mighty.

Jay Ray: 00:42:25

DJ Sir Daniel: Um,

Jay Ray: 00:42:26

Latrice Sampson Richards: And that's all that I need to live.

Jay Ray: 00:42:32

This life, you know, so Lil Wayne is a prophet

Jay Ray: 00:42:38

Yes.

Jay Ray: 00:42:39

Latrice Sampson Richards: out here in these streets

Jay Ray: 00:42:41

long as my

Jay Ray: 00:42:42

DJ Sir Daniel: you took me, you took me back to, there was a spot I used to DJ

Jay Ray: 00:42:47

and, and there were dancers and they used to like, they liked to dance to that song.

Jay Ray: 00:42:52

Latrice Sampson Richards: Yes,

Jay Ray: 00:42:53

DJ Sir Daniel: I hadn't thought about that song since

Jay Ray: 00:42:55

Latrice Sampson Richards: other thing though, right?

Jay Ray: 00:42:56

Cause on top of all of that, like Jill Scott did the interview.

Jay Ray: 00:42:59

We was talking about Jill Scott interview earlier.

Jay Ray: 00:43:01

Jill Scott did the interview with Jemele Hill.

Jay Ray: 00:43:03

I haven't watched the full interview, but on Jamel Hill's unbothered podcast,

Jay Ray: 00:43:09

she just did an interview with Jill Scott and Jill Scott is saying,

Jay Ray: 00:43:12

talking about intimacy and stuff.

Jay Ray: 00:43:13

And she's saying like, yes, I am the woo woo girl.

Jay Ray: 00:43:17

You know, like I am definitely the woo woo and the crystals

Jay Ray: 00:43:21

and you know, I'm the, you know, natural girl, mother, mother to the

Jay Ray: 00:43:26

DJ Sir Daniel: God is all

Jay Ray: 00:43:27

Latrice Sampson Richards: shit.

Jay Ray: 00:43:27

But also sometimes I just want to fuck.

Jay Ray: 00:43:30

Yeah, right.

Jay Ray: 00:43:32

DJ Sir Daniel: And I felt

Jay Ray: 00:43:33

Latrice Sampson Richards: Sometimes I just want to be a nasty bitch, okay?

Jay Ray: 00:43:37

Sometimes I just want, my, my line sister sent me a meme one time that said I just

Jay Ray: 00:43:42

want to do hood shit with my friends.

Jay Ray: 00:43:44

And I mean, it's a thing.

Jay Ray: 00:43:46

It's a thing.

Jay Ray: 00:43:47

DJ Sir Daniel: we, we are multifaceted people.

Jay Ray: 00:43:49

We're not one dimensional.

Jay Ray: 00:43:51

We are not

Jay Ray: 00:43:51

Latrice Sampson Richards: You know?

Jay Ray: 00:43:52

and we need to be allowed, given the room to be able to be those things.

Jay Ray: 00:43:58

Latrice Sampson Richards: Yes.

Jay Ray: 00:43:59

And to your, to your point, when you have folks in your life, that's

Jay Ray: 00:44:03

like, I see all, I see all of Latrice.

Jay Ray: 00:44:06

I see all of Sir Daniel.

Jay Ray: 00:44:08

I see all of Jay Ray and I'm in, and, and I fuck with them

Jay Ray: 00:44:12

Latrice Sampson Richards: Yes.

Jay Ray: 00:44:13

DJ Sir Daniel: the long

Jay Ray: 00:44:14

the long way.

Jay Ray: 00:44:15

Latrice Sampson Richards: The long way.

Jay Ray: 00:44:17

can I bring in, I want to bring in a lyric from that came in from the chat

Jay Ray: 00:44:21

and I want to make sure that we do that before we, before we leave out tonight.

Jay Ray: 00:44:25

Mark McPherson shout out to Mark.

Jay Ray: 00:44:27

I saw Mark.

Jay Ray: 00:44:28

On Monday in person, Hey Mark, um, Mark, uh, picked one of the most

Jay Ray: 00:44:35

beautiful songs, just my imagination by the temptations and the lyric,

Jay Ray: 00:44:42

isn't that a beautiful song?

Jay Ray: 00:44:43

And just these lyrics each day through my window, I watch her as she passes by.

Jay Ray: 00:44:50

I say to myself, self.

Jay Ray: 00:44:53

Even though that's not in the lyric here, but that's what happens.

Jay Ray: 00:44:55

So you're such a lucky guy to have a girl like her.

Jay Ray: 00:45:02

Okay, I'm not gonna sing.

Jay Ray: 00:45:03

It's truly a dream come true out of all the fellows in the world.

Jay Ray: 00:45:07

She belongs to me, but it was just my imagination running away with me.

Jay Ray: 00:45:13

It was just my imagination running away with me.

Jay Ray: 00:45:18

Latrice Sampson Richards: Mm hmm.

Jay Ray: 00:45:20

DJ Sir Daniel: taste of J racing and then everything to come

Jay Ray: 00:45:22

I love that song.

Jay Ray: 00:45:24

DJ Sir Daniel: on y'all.

Jay Ray: 00:45:25

Latrice Sampson Richards: he a good man.

Jay Ray: 00:45:26

Savannah.

Jay Ray: 00:45:30

Thank you.

Jay Ray: 00:45:30

Latrice

Jay Ray: 00:45:31

Latrice Sampson Richards: a good man.

Jay Ray: 00:45:32

Savannah.

Jay Ray: 00:45:34

DJ Sir Daniel: Let's trees.

Jay Ray: 00:45:35

We have thoroughly enjoyed you on this episode of Queue Points podcast.

Jay Ray: 00:45:40

Before we get up out of here, please, please, please let the

Jay Ray: 00:45:44

people know how they can get more of you, how they can contact you

Jay Ray: 00:45:48

and find out about your practice.

Jay Ray: 00:45:50

And of course, listen to your podcast.

Jay Ray: 00:45:52

Latrice Sampson Richards: Absolutely.

Jay Ray: 00:45:53

Thank you all so much for having me.

Jay Ray: 00:45:55

I have thoroughly enjoyed myself.

Jay Ray: 00:45:58

Um, my cheeks are literally hurting cause I've been smiling

Jay Ray: 00:46:02

the entire time, um, which is always like a plus and a positive.

Jay Ray: 00:46:08

I do a lot of interviews, you know, um, and they don't always.

Jay Ray: 00:46:12

But I have thoroughly enjoyed myself today.

Jay Ray: 00:46:21

Um, I love y'all so very, very much.

Jay Ray: 00:46:24

And, um, I'm just, you know, so now like next step is we got to work.

Jay Ray: 00:46:28

together for real, for real.

Jay Ray: 00:46:30

We got to do something for real, for real.

Jay Ray: 00:46:32

Um, so y'all, you know, we're gonna see what comes out of that.

Jay Ray: 00:46:36

But thank you so much for having me.

Jay Ray: 00:46:38

Um, I can be found.

Jay Ray: 00:46:40

I spent most of my time on instagram.

Jay Ray: 00:46:42

I'm not gonna lie.

Jay Ray: 00:46:44

Although, um, that's not really saying much because I do not post that much.

Jay Ray: 00:46:48

I'm gonna be honest.

Jay Ray: 00:46:50

Um, but if you want to keep up with me and what I got going on, Instagram

Jay Ray: 00:46:54

is the best place to do that.

Jay Ray: 00:46:56

Um, and you can follow me on Instagram at Latrice Sampson Richards.

Jay Ray: 00:47:00

Um, I have also a tick tock, uh, that I, you know, been kind of

Jay Ray: 00:47:05

dipping into the tick tock streets.

Jay Ray: 00:47:07

Uh, you know, they look like they trying to ban it or whatever, but we're

Jay Ray: 00:47:11

gonna see what happens, uh, with that.

Jay Ray: 00:47:14

But you can find me on tick tock at rich by marriage.

Jay Ray: 00:47:17

Um, Which I think I'm going to change that soon.

Jay Ray: 00:47:20

I think I'm gonna change it over to Pied Melanin, um, which

Jay Ray: 00:47:24

is the name of the company.

Jay Ray: 00:47:26

I am working on the Pied Melanin website, but in the meantime you can find my old

Jay Ray: 00:47:31

website, which is not fully updated.

Jay Ray: 00:47:33

So keep that in mind when you go to the website, it's not fully updated.

Jay Ray: 00:47:37

It's in the process.

Jay Ray: 00:47:38

of being updated and changed over.

Jay Ray: 00:47:41

And that's Latrice Samson Richards.

Jay Ray: 00:47:43

com.

Jay Ray: 00:47:44

Um, and, uh, I do live event consultations, planning execution.

Jay Ray: 00:47:51

I literally, one of my clients texts me today and she was like,

Jay Ray: 00:47:55

Hey, are you available for June?

Jay Ray: 00:47:57

Um, you know, it's like wanting to get on the calendar and things like that.

Jay Ray: 00:48:01

I got some really amazing events that.

Jay Ray: 00:48:03

I'm planning and working on, like I was telling y'all before last year,

Jay Ray: 00:48:07

um, it was just, it was the most difficult year of my life, hands down.

Jay Ray: 00:48:12

Um, when my dad passed and, uh, I had all these plans of things that I wanted

Jay Ray: 00:48:18

to do, and it just shut that down.

Jay Ray: 00:48:20

You know, it just.

Jay Ray: 00:48:21

it just really shut that down.

Jay Ray: 00:48:22

So I'm on the other side of that now.

Jay Ray: 00:48:25

And, um, I'm really excited to finally be like pressing gas on all of the things

Jay Ray: 00:48:30

that I've been telling y'all was coming for the last two, two years, two or three

Jay Ray: 00:48:34

years, um, that kind of got derailed.

Jay Ray: 00:48:36

So just, you know, be on the lookout for all of the things.

Jay Ray: 00:48:40

And, uh, yeah, that's, that's it.

Jay Ray: 00:48:44

I do respond to DMS.

Jay Ray: 00:48:46

Um, so if you want to work with me, you can always just

Jay Ray: 00:48:49

jump into DMS on Instagram.

Jay Ray: 00:48:52

Listen Latrice, we will absolutely be right there

Jay Ray: 00:48:56

supporting Latrice Samson Richards.

Jay Ray: 00:48:58

Um, you, you, the work that you do is incredibly important and just you as

Jay Ray: 00:49:03

a, a human being are just, I remember sitting in that room in Philadelphia.

Jay Ray: 00:49:11

And we hadn't met yet, but I remember it was somebody giving a testimony

Jay Ray: 00:49:17

and you just spoke life into that person from your seat in the audience.

Jay Ray: 00:49:22

And I'm like, we got to work with her.

Jay Ray: 00:49:25

I

Jay Ray: 00:49:27

DJ Sir Daniel: yep.

Jay Ray: 00:49:28

It's true.

Jay Ray: 00:49:29

Latrice Sampson Richards: Yes.

Jay Ray: 00:49:30

Yeah.

Jay Ray: 00:49:30

I mean, because I just feel like it don't cost you nothing

Jay Ray: 00:49:34

to be a decent human being.

Jay Ray: 00:49:38

And my goal.

Jay Ray: 00:49:41

In life is to make sure that anybody who experiences me, no matter how long, if

Jay Ray: 00:49:50

it's for this hour and a half, that, that we've been talking tonight, if this is the

Jay Ray: 00:49:55

only contact you ever get with me for the rest of your life, I want for you to come

Jay Ray: 00:50:01

away from that experience, feeling like your life has been made better in some

Jay Ray: 00:50:06

way, even if it's just for that moment.

Jay Ray: 00:50:10

You know what I'm saying?

Jay Ray: 00:50:11

Like that, that is the goal.

Jay Ray: 00:50:14

And so, you know, I, I just, I appreciate y'all and I love y'all.

Jay Ray: 00:50:20

I love the people and the people love me back.

Jay Ray: 00:50:23

So it's a, it's a mutually, it's a reciprocal relationship, you know,

Jay Ray: 00:50:28

it's a reciprocal relationship.

Jay Ray: 00:50:30

And, um, yeah, I love y'all.

Jay Ray: 00:50:33

Thank

Jay Ray: 00:50:33

y'all.

Jay Ray: 00:50:34

you too Latrice.

Jay Ray: 00:50:35

DJ Sir Daniel: is real.

Jay Ray: 00:50:36

J Ray, share some love with our listeners and let them know.

Jay Ray: 00:50:40

Um, just remind them how they can keep up with us.

Jay Ray: 00:50:42

And so that they can get more, uh, they can find this show

Jay Ray: 00:50:46

with Latrice and others like it.

Jay Ray: 00:50:48

So

Jay Ray: 00:50:49

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Jay Ray: 00:50:51

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Jay Ray: 00:50:56

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Oh, that is a very specific number.

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it is very, I count it.

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You can fit 26 albums in here and we got three of them.

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So we got this the slow jabs can heal us in a couple others.

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So

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Well, I need to get me a shirt.

Jay Ray: 00:52:27

I'm gonna have to, let me get my life together.

Jay Ray: 00:52:29

Let me get

Jay Ray: 00:52:30

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Latrice Sampson Richards: Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yes,

Jay Ray: 00:52:38

DJ Sir Daniel: what the lady said.

Jay Ray: 00:52:39

That was the lovely Latrice Samson Richards.

Jay Ray: 00:52:43

I am DJ Sir Daniel,

Jay Ray: 00:52:45

And my name is jray.

Jay Ray: 00:52:47

DJ Sir Daniel: and this is Queue Points podcast, dropping the

Jay Ray: 00:52:49

needle on black music history.

Jay Ray: 00:52:52

What do I wait?

Jay Ray: 00:52:53

I almost forgot my, my lines to the people, Jerry.

Jay Ray: 00:52:56

you didn't even say it.

Jay Ray: 00:52:57

Yes.

Jay Ray: 00:52:58

We have to

Jay Ray: 00:52:58

DJ Sir Daniel: So I got to hit him.

Jay Ray: 00:53:00

With the lyrics that you heard tonight, this means even more

Jay Ray: 00:53:04

in this life, you have a choice.

Jay Ray: 00:53:06

You can either pick up the needle or you can let the record play again.

Jay Ray: 00:53:11

I'm DJ sir.

Jay Ray: 00:53:12

Daniel.

Jay Ray: 00:53:12

That was Jay Ray.

Jay Ray: 00:53:14

Our lovely guest Latrice Samson Richards.

Jay Ray: 00:53:16

This is Queue Points podcast, dropping the needle on black music history.

Jay Ray: 00:53:21

We will see you on the next go round.

Jay Ray: 00:53:23

Peace.

Jay Ray: 00:53:24

Peace