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3 Year Retrospective
Episode 101st July 2020 • Data Driven • Data Driven
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In this episode, Frank and Andy share their thoughts on three years of podcasting, stoicism, and climbing Mount Royal.

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This is the first show that we recorded via live stream. It also marks the debut of our AI voice over talent.

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hey Andy how it's going good how are you


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good I'm seeing a black screen and for


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some reason the audios being piped


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through you know are you input should be


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my my camera does on the pair of B let


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me try turning it off and back on again


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I know you have a call so for those of


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you joining us on YouTube and our


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Facebook live page Andy and I are doing


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an experiment and what's data science


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without experiments right Andy so true


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so how's my audio your audios awesome


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okay could you hear


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all right I've turned my camera on main


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using the app that came with it so the


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software that we were explaining for


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folks and for you Andy I'll bring our


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listeners into this the image we haven't


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started three years ago plus or minus a


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few weeks we wanted to hold off on the


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celebrations for a number of reasons and


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we originally envisioned this show to


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become a video podcast so technology and


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costs have come down that if Sumi Annie


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gets his camera going we will be able to


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do there we go I see yeah I am here I


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found the Settings button awesome so


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this is good this is good so we have the


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ability now to kind of do something more


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long a lot to think what we were


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originally envisioned so as awesome as


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you may think the show has been we


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actually had even we had even grander


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plans so this is just an experiment


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might even put this live on the feed is


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kind of like a


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call it a data point how about that Andy


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I like it I like that a lot because the


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advantage is that because I'm using a


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product called restream that I can pipe


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two different output so this is actually


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going to Frank's world TV YouTube


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channel our Facebook live feed and


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because of the magic of automation this


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is also going to be I'm actually going


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to once this ends will see that it


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should pick up the arm the video feed


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from Facebook and then pipe that into an


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mp3 file which should be ready for


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upload to the scene so again it's data


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science right in data magic it's not


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science


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I told that to customers a lot like you


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know it's ok to fail because it's called


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data science it's not in Dean in the


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perfection so you know and and silently


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calling it science what you say well it


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failed but you know we weren't sure it


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was gonna work so it's kind of so how's


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it going I know you have a call in like


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five minutes but yeah it's I'm I'm


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waiting on someone and if they if they


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don't show up that that's ok they're


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busy it's a regular call with with


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someone who subcontracts with me and


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he's older but he is a data scientist as


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well and he sometimes gets distracted


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heads down that's why you pinged me


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about five minutes till the call I was


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like well I got a call in five minutes


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five let's do it


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I was upstairs drinking coffee when I


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messaged you and I'm glad you did


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this is our oh I like this Frank this is


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you're right this is our vision that's


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why we registered data-driven dot TV so


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okay there's another reason we want to


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register theirs right there's a reason


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why we're distr dot TV but the real


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reason we didn't do coms because it was


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taken so well there was that full


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transparency minor and convenience minor


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inconvenience I turned it into a


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potential opportunity to make it into a


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video podcast but the and


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look here we are so don't give up on


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your dreams kids that's right no things


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are things are going good here today


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Franco a little busy it's um it's an


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interesting time to be an entrepreneur


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right in technology it's it's usually


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feast or famine but there's a lot of


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factors kind of weighing in on all of


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that today


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I think 2020 has been that kind of year


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where it's just been you know one thing


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after after another but Frank you and I


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are both people of faith right and what


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I say when it's good times and bad times


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is you know we're in God's hands and a


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lot of people don't like us mixing that


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kind of stuff that way if you're if


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you're don't believe in God then you


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know you can take the stoic approaches


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um anyway I mean well and we have you


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know we had I remember a couple of


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people that we interviewed brought that


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up brought up the stove approach Brent


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those are stands out right right


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Raven the last one so and in Bob Ward


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spoke a lot about his face right all


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right at the end of it and I'm gonna go


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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I


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still believe this room I mean something


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I read it might have been from talev but


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wasn't in one of his books it might have


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been like a tweet or something like that


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you know that wars and plagues happen so


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frequently in human history yet we're


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still surprised when they happen yeah


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and that kind of that kind of stuck with


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me and and you know if you are person of


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faith Amen that's cool if you're not


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that's cool too we all have to live on


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the same planet we did until Mars is an


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option then we'll share too but I mean


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you know as someone you know you all


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know I mean I don't not everyone knows


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but you know I was at the World Trade


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Center I had PTSD


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and one of the lasting legacies is a


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PTSD is kind of the the overreaction to


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stress now to say the 20/20 has been


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stressful here both for family reasons


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I'm kind of side this is an


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understatement and you know I you know I


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it's it's it's very easy to cower and


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kind of like just zone out and I've done


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that like you can figure out when that


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happened when if you would look at the


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blog when kind of the post kind of


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dipped as well as the podcast when we


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didn't record but kind of I had this


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moment of of clarity that you know


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reading reading uh things you know about


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stoicism it was a really good book


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called the obstacles the way yeah and


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you know there are two things in this


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world right there's one way to look at


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I'm paraphrasing but basically things


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you can control and things you can you


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know so things you can control


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well you know laying in bed all day it's


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not kind of fix it right and things you


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can't control


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you can't do anything about it so at


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some point I kind of this thought that


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how can I make this how can I be a


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better person despite all this how can I


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be a better father how can I be a better


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technologist not gonna be better like


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human being just in general right


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because you know I I've listened to a


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lot of Tony Robbins over the years and


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some people like him some people hate


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him but one of the things he says that


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the quality of your life is largely


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determined by the questions you ask


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yourself and we're really off topic here


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that's okay we live in a very odd year


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but I mean you know if you ask yourself


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constantly why is this happening or why


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is this being allowed to happen by you


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know some divine entity you you're going


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to get answers that lead I think to


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despair but if you ask your


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self questions of how can I use this to


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be a better person what can I learn from


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this you're gonna put your head in a


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better place now I'm not saying that's


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gonna magically solve everything but


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honestly and if falling apart isn't


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going to help anyone


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it's interesting the where you know


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where the euler's overlap between


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stoicism and and faith and where they


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don't right and I think it's you know


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it's a it makes it's important


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distinctions and I think there's


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different flavors of both stoicism enter


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or is it a Venn diagram well I think


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this would that you could probably get


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away with a ban on this although since


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we're doing experiments let me try this


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let me try this yeah do your pen thing I


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see your pen I got my pen and let me


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make sure customer notes I had a huge


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customer engagement yesterday which is


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why my LinkedIn live feed yesterday was


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kind of like it was short because I had


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to pick up the one of the kids from


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daycare but okay I leave my frame was


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pretty much melted I miss Frank and and


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while you're bringing that up no I don't


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know if the our listeners know it or not


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but I've been doing twitch yes oh you


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see that screenshot I said I I think I


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did well you send me a bunch Frank let


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me finish this fuck I spend I spend a


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while stop forehead let me scroll up the


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one I think I said there whose is it's


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not the profile one is it no let me


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finish this is one of you on art there's


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another view on live there you are


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alright update assurance I want to do a


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joke okay do a joke so this is your


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right I think it is ven em no no I


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spelled it I spilled it all out because


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you'll see okay bad movies diesel it's a


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joke


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I don't know


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yeah it is it is actually then and I


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think it's to ends but this is cool so


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we can actually do we can go further the


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original vision in terms of you know


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doing architectures and stuff because


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when you're talking about data


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engineering aspect especially in some of


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the more esoteric kind of mathematical


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concepts around data science in AI I


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think having that whiteboard will...

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