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#54: The State That’s Not a State is a Hell of a Lot Greener Than Your State
Episode 5412th February 2019 • Important, Not Important • Important, Not Important
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In Episode 54, Quinn & Brian discuss: why the state that’s not a state is a hell of a lot greener than your state. Our guest is Jamie DeMarco, a State-Level Carbon Pricing Coordinator with our friends the Citizens' Climate Lobby (who are working to save our collective asses every single day, NBD). Jamie is dedicated to passing state-level legislation that will serve as a model and inspiration for future national lawmakers – so he definitely has his work cut out for him. Dealing with society’s environmental self-harm, it turns out, is a lot like acknowledging a toxic relationship with your significant other: you acknowledge the problem (maybe publicly), stop participating in the toxic behavior, and then move to being proactive about the problem. What can we do on both a micro and macro scale to begin influencing environmental policy for the better, and encourage others to do the same?  We already have all of the technology we need to power our society from 100% renewable sources – we just lack the political will to get there. Luckily, we have people like Jamie out there creating will where there’s already a way. Trump’s Book Club: Les Misérables by Victor Hugo: Links: Learn more at Find a chapter: Donate: CCL on Facebook: CCL on Instagram: CCL on Twitter: Jamie on Twitter: Jamie on LinkedIn: Find and contact your representatives: Read “It's now cheaper to build a new wind farm than to keep a coal plant running”: Connect with us: Subscribe to our newsletter at! Intro/outro by Tim Blane: Follow Quinn: Follow Brian: Like and share us on Facebook: