Thank you for joining me today on gift biz on wrapped.
Speaker:This is episode 90.
Speaker:That is the most positive and valuable awareness that you can.
Speaker:Yeah. Hi,
Speaker:this is John Lee Dumas of entrepreneur on fire,
Speaker:and you're listening to the gift of biz unwrapped,
Speaker:and now it's time to light it up.
Speaker:Welcome to gift bears on wrapped your source for industry specific
Speaker:insights and advice to develop and grow your business.
Speaker:And now here's your host Sue Mona height.
Speaker:Hi there.
Speaker:It's Sue and welcome back to the gift biz unwrapped podcast,
Speaker:whether you own a brick and mortar shop sell online or
Speaker:are just getting started,
Speaker:you'll discover new insight to gain traction and to grow your
Speaker:business. And today I have joining us Abby sparks of Abby
Speaker:sparks media group.
Speaker:Abby has been promoting fortune 500 companies and entertainment and nonprofit
Speaker:organizations for over 20 years.
Speaker:She has crafted marketing communication programs for Viacom,
Speaker:Showtime McDonald's and the Ronald McDonald children's charities to name just
Speaker:a few in 1991,
Speaker:Abby branched out on her own.
Speaker:And today Abby sparks media group specializes in social media,
Speaker:marketing, content,
Speaker:branding, and advocacy.
Speaker:They focus on clients in the digital technology entertainment and nonprofit
Speaker:sectors. Just last month,
Speaker:she launched an independent digital news service called socially sparked news,
Speaker:which covers the people and events that socially spark our lives.
Speaker:And most recently,
Speaker:Abby was selected as a woman of distinction in her field
Speaker:by the national association of distinguished professionals.
Speaker:And we are so lucky to have her here today.
Speaker:Abby, welcome to the show,
Speaker:Maggie super having me.
Speaker:I like to start off by having our listeners get to
Speaker:know you in a little bit of a different way,
Speaker:and that is by having you describe your ideal motivational candle.
Speaker:So if you were to tell us what color it is
Speaker:and what the quote is,
Speaker:help us envision what your candle would look like.
Speaker:Okay. So the color of my candle would be blue,
Speaker:which to me is calming and soothing.
Speaker:When you're in a business like mine,
Speaker:it's constantly going and publicity and social media and constantly talking
Speaker:that serenity comes in handy.
Speaker:It sort of keeps me calm and that's sort of the
Speaker:colors in my branding of my own company.
Speaker:And what's the quote that would be on the candle.
Speaker:The quote that would be on the candle would be do
Speaker:it with passion or not at all.
Speaker:Yeah. If we don't have our heart and our mind into
Speaker:it, it's not going to work in the first one.
Speaker:Absolutely. And that's sort of my motto and what drives me.
Speaker:I want to start in the beginning,
Speaker:Abby, with how you got involved in what you're doing today.
Speaker:So take me back way to,
Speaker:I don't know if it was right after high school or
Speaker:you had this interest in college,
Speaker:but the whole communications,
Speaker:media PR all of that.
Speaker:How did you get started In a very roundabout way to
Speaker:be honest with you?
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I, it probably went back to high school without me knowing
Speaker:it back then,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:because you do all these social or extracurricular activities.
Speaker:So that's where I was introduced to advocacy because I was
Speaker:involved in this club that helped,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:back then they called it disabled children.
Speaker:So you had the passion and just the spirit in you
Speaker:of giving back already at that time,
Speaker:like your early teens then?
Speaker:Yes. That's where it started.
Speaker:And like I said,
Speaker:I don't think you really know that that's,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:that's something that you're interested in.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I know in college now they're very driven on what they
Speaker:want to do,
Speaker:but I had no idea.
Speaker:I just knew what I was interested in.
Speaker:And again,
Speaker:it was what I was passionate about.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:I went to Emory university,
Speaker:they did not have a journalism school back then or communication
Speaker:school. So I majored in political science and I did an
Speaker:internship in the arts for political science credit,
Speaker:believe it or not.
Speaker:And it was in PR I worked for the Atlanta ballet
Speaker:in the PR department.
Speaker:So I wrote a paper on Reaganism and the national endowment
Speaker:for the arts,
Speaker:which was for political science credit.
Speaker:But that's really where I had combined my passions without me
Speaker:really knowing it at the time,
Speaker:which was politics or advocacy,
Speaker:the arts,
Speaker:which was the performing arts,
Speaker:which was the ballet and public relations,
Speaker:which is the internship I had.
Speaker:That was the Kickstarter for me.
Speaker:And then when I graduated,
Speaker:it was all uphill from there.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:You know what,
Speaker:I'm going to stop for just a second.
Speaker:Here we are keeping it real gift biz listeners.
Speaker:Abby is in New York.
Speaker:And when we were talking pre-interview we were saying that if
Speaker:we hear any sirens,
Speaker:we're just going to stop for a minute and I would
Speaker:edit that out.
Speaker:But I think there's going to be sirens throughout.
Speaker:So we're just going to let it go.
Speaker:If we're just going to keep talking.
Speaker:If we hear sirens,
Speaker:Abby, we hear sirens.
Speaker:Okay. That's just the way it's going to be.
Speaker:I think that'll work the best for us.
Speaker:The office is near three hospitals.
Speaker:Oh, well,
Speaker:no wonder,
Speaker:Not like there's a bomb going off or anything.
Speaker:Oh, please.
Speaker:Hope not.
Speaker:So you are a true professional within the media realm.
Speaker:I'm just going to put that as a whole big umbrella.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Are there any suggestions or insights that you have now because
Speaker:you've gone through this field over the course of several years
Speaker:and it's changed and it's morphed.
Speaker:Is there anything that you would say any insights you have
Speaker:just on the whole field of marketing and branding and content?
Speaker:Do you have any comments about that?
Speaker:Probably a zillion,
Speaker:but I'll try and keep it very short.
Speaker:Yeah. Give us some,
Speaker:give us one or two,
Speaker:just from your perspective.
Speaker:I think it would be really interesting to hear.
Speaker:Okay. Well,
Speaker:from my perspective,
Speaker:I mean has been around for a long,
Speaker:long time.
Speaker:So just because the buzzwords are changing now,
Speaker:we call content marketing and blogging,
Speaker:which basically was good old fashioned writing back 20 years ago
Speaker:or 15 years ago,
Speaker:publicity is now sort of called promotion or digital marketing because
Speaker:there is digital now,
Speaker:but it's all still related to PR.
Speaker:It's just that it's expanded.
Speaker:And even the PR the good old fashion PR industry gives
Speaker:conferences that are about social media and using that as a
Speaker:tool for PR.
Speaker:But I think that the constant throughout all this is that
Speaker:public relations will never go away.
Speaker:I think that a successful marketer and public relations professional knows
Speaker:the background and the history of publicity and that tool and
Speaker:how to use it.
Speaker:So with all the new mechanisms out there,
Speaker:it's the art of combining them all,
Speaker:knowing when to use what and when to pull in the
Speaker:good old fashioned PR,
Speaker:because that is still very much viable in today's Damian.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:that's interesting because I think a lot of that has gotten
Speaker:lost because it's not the newest,
Speaker:latest, greatest,
Speaker:shiny object,
Speaker:right? It's something that's been around as you've been talking about,
Speaker:when is the right time to bring in good old fashioned
Speaker:PR? Well,
Speaker:first, you know what?
Speaker:We better first describe what good old fashioned PR is.
Speaker:So while we have everybody in coming off at the same
Speaker:place, Okay.
Speaker:So it could be depending on whether you're a local,
Speaker:independent business or individual,
Speaker:or just a local philanthropic all-star in your community to national
Speaker:and global activist.
Speaker:So it depends how you would use that good old fashioned
Speaker:PR to your advantage and a good old fashioned PR tool
Speaker:would be anything from a basic press release.
Speaker:But you have to remember now a basic press release is
Speaker:different today than it was back then,
Speaker:because it should include an image,
Speaker:a digital image,
Speaker:and it should include hotlinks.
Speaker:So it's sort of a morphed with the times we can
Speaker:keep using that term if you'd like.
Speaker:So that's a very basic,
Speaker:good old fashioned PR tool.
Speaker:Another one is just the good old fashioned publicity stunt.
Speaker:If you have a store in your store owner,
Speaker:or you have a new product that you're announcing and that's
Speaker:done today,
Speaker:I'm sure you see it all over the place,
Speaker:but you don't realize that it's really just good old fashioned
Speaker:PR, anything from balloons and a ribbon cutting to get the
Speaker:television or the newspaper reporters there.
Speaker:That's old school.
Speaker:How do you go about,
Speaker:okay, let's so a lot of our listeners are either home-based
Speaker:or they have a shop.
Speaker:And so let's say they're putting on an event somewhere.
Speaker:How do they get the newspapers or local television stations or
Speaker:whoever it be to know about the event so that they'll
Speaker:show up,
Speaker:How did they get them there?
Speaker:Or how did they figure out how do they know who
Speaker:they are?
Speaker:How do they get them there?
Speaker:So the photos can be taken in a story,
Speaker:can be written If there are other small budget and they
Speaker:can't hire a professional,
Speaker:that's skilled in doing that.
Speaker:Is that what you're asking with themselves?
Speaker:Yeah. Today's day and age.
Speaker:They can go Google and there's instructions,
Speaker:but I can be,
Speaker:I'm more than happy to,
Speaker:to tell them a little bit.
Speaker:It's pretty simple.
Speaker:You have four weeks before the event,
Speaker:even eight weeks before the event,
Speaker:if you've planned that far ahead,
Speaker:you can start making,
Speaker:like, getting it listed in the chamber of commerce,
Speaker:which is a big resource that could help spread the word
Speaker:and getting it listed in the local newspapers and giving a
Speaker:heads up.
Speaker:It may go into a circular file with the television stations
Speaker:in the area,
Speaker:on the newspapers,
Speaker:but most likely it's going into a file and they won't
Speaker:look at it until it's closer to the date.
Speaker:And then a lot of it's hit or miss,
Speaker:or when you get to that actual data,
Speaker:if a president is elected and there's a lot of hoopla
Speaker:going on,
Speaker:then obviously they're not going to be coming to your local
Speaker:store opening.
Speaker:So it depends on what the news is of the day
Speaker:and what you're competing against.
Speaker:And that you can tell those are just X factors,
Speaker:but like four weeks out,
Speaker:you would write a press release or an announcement of what's
Speaker:happening the same way you would probably inviting local business people
Speaker:and potential customers and existing customers.
Speaker:So you'd share that with the same media and then two
Speaker:weeks out,
Speaker:you probably would just do another little event alert to just
Speaker:the media,
Speaker:and then you'd just have to get on the phone and
Speaker:call if you want them to come and remind them the
Speaker:day of I've heard somewhere along the way that you're more
Speaker:likely to attract media.
Speaker:If it's not,
Speaker:if your event,
Speaker:if you're doing a,
Speaker:what we'll call the publicity stunt.
Speaker:Okay. If it's not totally,
Speaker:self-serving like if there's some funding going back to some type
Speaker:of a cause,
Speaker:or you're doing it solely for charity,
Speaker:something like that.
Speaker:If it's just an event that you're having,
Speaker:you're, you know,
Speaker:you're opening your shop,
Speaker:they're going to be less attracted to it.
Speaker:Then if there's an another,
Speaker:like an overlaying story,
Speaker:is that true For the most part?
Speaker:Yes. For a small business owner or somebody just starting,
Speaker:I would say that in today's day and age,
Speaker:it's such a crowded field.
Speaker:I've been a big proponent of this.
Speaker:My entire career is that we used to call it piggybacking.
Speaker:Like if we were the client or we're Coca-Cola or somebody
Speaker:like that,
Speaker:we would tie in with a cause that we've already,
Speaker:we're already involved with,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:because everybody in today's day and age,
Speaker:every business I know stands for something.
Speaker:And if you don't,
Speaker:you should,
Speaker:That's a good point.
Speaker:And I don't know that a lot of our listeners have
Speaker:ever thought of it that way.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:how, what are different ways that you can do that,
Speaker:that you've seen in the past?
Speaker:Certainly fundraising could be one from an event like we were
Speaker:just talking about now,
Speaker:what other types of things could people be doing to align
Speaker:themselves with some type of a cause?
Speaker:So here I can give you an example of us,
Speaker:of a local restaurant that did not need the publicity,
Speaker:maybe, you know,
Speaker:but you know,
Speaker:there is a client of his regulars,
Speaker:Hey, and they have an autistic son.
Speaker:They raised money for the school that the autistic son was
Speaker:at. So the restaurant opened their entire restaurant,
Speaker:but their dinner catered this entire meal with wine.
Speaker:It's a known wine restaurant,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:that has amazing wine and paired wine with each of their
Speaker:specialty dishes was really incredible.
Speaker:And they gave 50%.
Speaker:The restaurant gave 50% of the money they made from the
Speaker:charging them for just the meal part,
Speaker:because the rest of it was free.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:the space was free back to the event,
Speaker:to the school and they got great publicity,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:indirectly, because of course,
Speaker:you're going to write about where the venue was.
Speaker:And then that the owner of the restaurant was just so
Speaker:generous. And he did this wonderful thing for his regular clients
Speaker:that is the most positive and valuable awareness that you can
Speaker:get. So you just gave a restaurant example.
Speaker:I think people who maybe sell products could do the same
Speaker:thing. Maybe they're not giving back on every single product that
Speaker:they offer,
Speaker:but certain products,
Speaker:if you buy this product,
Speaker:a certain percentage goes back or that kind of a thing.
Speaker:And you're suggesting that you should be integrating that type of
Speaker:thing into your business.
Speaker:Always not just for a PR stunt.
Speaker:No, always.
Speaker:It doesn't matter how small you are,
Speaker:fury skin,
Speaker:Caroline, for example,
Speaker:or your products are vitamins or even like clothing.
Speaker:Okay. So whatever the,
Speaker:you find it,
Speaker:if you don't have a,
Speaker:cause you find one that's related to your product even,
Speaker:and you know that you're giving back to something that ties
Speaker:back to your company,
Speaker:but that you believe in,
Speaker:in that the company,
Speaker:it makes sense.
Speaker:It really should make sense.
Speaker:It can't be just a disconnect if you're a florist or
Speaker:you're starting a floral business,
Speaker:whether it's silk flowers or fresh flowers giving back to something
Speaker:that's a total disconnect would make no sense.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:the tool would work,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:to raise awareness.
Speaker:Well, unless there was a story around it,
Speaker:like you had a close family member who had a disease
Speaker:or something like,
Speaker:No, I like this.
Speaker:Like the couple that was a regular at the restaurant.
Speaker:Right? So you could do the same with one of your
Speaker:top customers in the skincare business is really an advocate for
Speaker:cancer or for something you can believe in that and give
Speaker:back to that because it's a connection there,
Speaker:right? I'm a big believer in when I worked with McDonald's
Speaker:McDonald's founder,
Speaker:Ray Kroc,
Speaker:he had this motto and it has really stayed with me
Speaker:my entire career after working with McDonald's for McDonald's.
Speaker:And that was,
Speaker:you give back to the communities in which you do business.
Speaker:It's like a Bible and it really should be everybody's.
Speaker:I agree.
Speaker:Let's talk a little bit more about public relations in terms
Speaker:of the value to an individual business owner.
Speaker:Cause we've been talking already about the tactics in terms of,
Speaker:okay, if you're putting on an event or there's something that
Speaker:you want to promote,
Speaker:we've talked about what you should do eight weeks out,
Speaker:four weeks out two.
Speaker:And then the day of the event,
Speaker:we've also talked about the overlay of this is something that
Speaker:should pretty much be genuine within your business.
Speaker:It's not something that you just create for an event so
Speaker:that you can get publicity,
Speaker:because I also think that everyone would see through it.
Speaker:So I agree with you.
Speaker:It should be something going continually,
Speaker:but on a regular basis,
Speaker:what would the value?
Speaker:Cause I don't think a lot of us really think maybe
Speaker:we're even doing PR and we don't even really know it,
Speaker:but I don't think we think about it because the whole
Speaker:social media era that we're in now just kind of supersedes
Speaker:everything. What is the value for a small business entrepreneur to
Speaker:be participating or doing some type of PR activities?
Speaker:The value is incredible if it's done correctly and this is
Speaker:where you really need to integrate,
Speaker:it's the,
Speaker:that's the word?
Speaker:That's the key buzzword is an integrate,
Speaker:integrate public relations or what I call good old fashion PR
Speaker:with today's PR tools,
Speaker:which are Twitter.
Speaker:Facebook, LinkedIn depends on your business,
Speaker:but you do have to integrate news,
Speaker:other awareness mechanisms that are in existence when you can integrate
Speaker:it properly.
Speaker:And that really does come with a special skillset.
Speaker:So, but you can either learn it or you can do
Speaker:a modified version until your business is up and running and
Speaker:you can grow and afford to maybe hire someone to help
Speaker:you. That has a little more expertise in that area.
Speaker:If someone is new,
Speaker:what would you suggest are three things that they could do
Speaker:to get started promoting themselves,
Speaker:whether it's the good old fashioned way through old fashioned tactics,
Speaker:integrating social media,
Speaker:what would you suggest if there were three concrete steps?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you had a blank piece of paper and someone was just
Speaker:getting started.
Speaker:What would you advise?
Speaker:Okay. I have self-branding steps.
Speaker:Okay. This sounds interesting.
Speaker:Good. Go for it.
Speaker:First of all,
Speaker:you have to just get yourself out there because nobody's going
Speaker:to know about you if you're not out and about and
Speaker:physically out there.
Speaker:Yes I am.
Speaker:But I don't mean just running around the street,
Speaker:waving, waving your arms up to clarify.
Speaker:I mean join the professional organizations that will have other businesses
Speaker:become aware that there's a new business in town.
Speaker:Definitely join your local chamber or better business Bureau,
Speaker:depending on how large your new business is.
Speaker:Networking is very important to any business owner,
Speaker:especially a new business because word of mouth is huge.
Speaker:That's not talked about enough or we haven't talked about it
Speaker:enough, but it is.
Speaker:It's a,
Speaker:it's a huge tool and then showcasing your expertise or your
Speaker:business by maybe trying to get some speaking opportunities or being
Speaker:on a panel.
Speaker:As it relates to trying to get awareness for yourself.
Speaker:These are easy things that you can do that you don't
Speaker:need to rely on getting a news story or being on
Speaker:television. And there's sometimes even more effective depending on what your
Speaker:business is.
Speaker:Even writing a guest blog.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I'm sure that,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:somebody, whether you're a new working mom that was recently reentering
Speaker:the workforce,
Speaker:you don't realize all the people that you know,
Speaker:until you have a minute to sit down and think about
Speaker:it. And then lastly,
Speaker:eventually your business could apply for awards.
Speaker:And those are all easy ways that don't involve being on
Speaker:TV or in the newspaper that will get you in the
Speaker:spotlight. Okay.
Speaker:Super. These are great because this isn't something we normally talk
Speaker:about. So really good,
Speaker:valuable new information.
Speaker:So the three steps Abby is suggesting in terms of PR
Speaker:moves now is getting out there and networking,
Speaker:which as we have talked about a lot,
Speaker:but she is just underlining the importance of that and then
Speaker:showcasing your business,
Speaker:whether it's speaking or doing some writing for someone else on
Speaker:a blog,
Speaker:something like that,
Speaker:because that does get you extra exposure and it'll get you
Speaker:click backs to your website.
Speaker:Lots of really good SEO juice,
Speaker:if you will.
Speaker:And then third apply for awards,
Speaker:which Abby I wouldn't have even thought about,
Speaker:but you're so right.
Speaker:You don't always have to wait for someone to point the
Speaker:finger at you and say,
Speaker:look, look at them,
Speaker:recognize them.
Speaker:You're allowed to raise your own hand.
Speaker:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker:Yeah. So if there are awards or things that are going
Speaker:on in your community,
Speaker:why not enter in and I would never think of that.
Speaker:So that's a really good one.
Speaker:Do you have anything more to say on this topic before
Speaker:we move on?
Speaker:No. I think if you can do any of the things,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:obviously the last one would be promote yourself,
Speaker:capitalize on the media,
Speaker:but that,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:showcase your expertise,
Speaker:but you'll become an expert by doing the other things I've
Speaker:mentioned. And then,
Speaker:then it's easy then to get me not easy,
Speaker:but it's easier to then you're in the right place to
Speaker:get attention from the media or even social media.
Speaker:You can tweet that you've won a reward.
Speaker:And if you do not have Twitter yet,
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:everybody's on Facebook these days either because you have children and
Speaker:that's why you joined or because I mean to be truthful,
Speaker:a lot of people won't admit it,
Speaker:but trust me,
Speaker:that's why they joined.
Speaker:But it makes sense to have a business Facebook page for
Speaker:some businesses.
Speaker:That's where your clientele will go to if you're a retail
Speaker:store, for sure.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:and then there are others like Pinterest for retail store where
Speaker:you put pictures up,
Speaker:but those are really complicated things.
Speaker:And if you're just starting out,
Speaker:keep it simple master one,
Speaker:and then you can add a second.
Speaker:Totally agree,
Speaker:get one,
Speaker:get grounded,
Speaker:get a plan going and then layer them on one by
Speaker:one and see what's working because some of them just might
Speaker:not be your audience.
Speaker:So then you can eliminate it and add something else in.
Speaker:I want to move on now,
Speaker:Abby and I am so excited.
Speaker:I intentionally didn't hear the whole story because I wanted to
Speaker:hear it live.
Speaker:I told you that before,
Speaker:let's talk about socially sparked news.
Speaker:What is it about,
Speaker:tell us how it started.
Speaker:Give us the scoop Socially sparked news.
Speaker:It's been in my head for over a decade because I
Speaker:write and I've written for years for different organizations or different
Speaker:magazines. And I actually under Abby sparks media group,
Speaker:I have a newsroom and I created socially sparked the blog
Speaker:a few years ago.
Speaker:And so I actually housed my stories under there.
Speaker:And then for a year I wrote a lot of them
Speaker:on the marketing standpoint for a different newsroom.
Speaker:And so they were,
Speaker:they all were,
Speaker:they're just,
Speaker:you've read them.
Speaker:They've just been all over the map.
Speaker:And so I finally had the time to take everything in
Speaker:my head and everything I've written and that all the stories
Speaker:that are still in my head because that's the creative brain
Speaker:in me and I created what was the evolution of all
Speaker:my writing.
Speaker:So I created socially sparked news and it's not just my
Speaker:voice, but it does have to follow my motto,
Speaker:our ethics,
Speaker:which is the stories that are written are not being written
Speaker:because a brand is paying us or because it's a client
Speaker:that we want to promote.
Speaker:It's the people,
Speaker:places and things basically that have socially sparked our lives in
Speaker:the worlds of entertainment,
Speaker:which could be anything from television to theater,
Speaker:to dance,
Speaker:anything in performing arts or music.
Speaker:And then in the digital world,
Speaker:which is constantly evolving and making our world totally connected in
Speaker:a way we never thought would ever happen to technology,
Speaker:which is also the reason why you and I Sue can
Speaker:have this interview today.
Speaker:That's right.
Speaker:And then activism and advocacy,
Speaker:which has always been a huge really it's all my passions.
Speaker:That's where it all started.
Speaker:Yeah. So that's it.
Speaker:And I'm really excited about it.
Speaker:And it launched a little over a month ago.
Speaker:It's doing amazingly well.
Speaker:I just,
Speaker:luckily for me,
Speaker:that was right before these fake news stories started breaking,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:all the fake news.
Speaker:Have you heard about all that,
Speaker:But Phil,
Speaker:everybody in here?
Speaker:Well, I,
Speaker:there was a whole thing in the news that made national
Speaker:about fake news stories and there was a whole big thing
Speaker:about it.
Speaker:And here comes socially sparked news,
Speaker:which is an authentic written from a passionate cultural pop cultural
Speaker:standpoint. You know,
Speaker:you should check out socially sparked news.com
Speaker:and you'll see what kind of writing it is.
Speaker:And we do accept writers.
Speaker:I do have a whole slew of photographers on board that
Speaker:I've worked with through the years.
Speaker:The way I've set this up is I'd rather promote their
Speaker:work than to take a stock photo that I have to
Speaker:credit somebody.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:Oh sure.
Speaker:Yeah. I'm still promoting people,
Speaker:even though it's a news service and then same thing with
Speaker:the writing.
Speaker:So like if somebody really sees something that they're expert in
Speaker:music, or they're an expert in breast cancer during breast cancer
Speaker:awareness month,
Speaker:they see somebody that has socially sparked our lives by being
Speaker:an advocate for breast cancer and they can write it.
Speaker:What's been done and what's going on now,
Speaker:then they're welcome to write for me and submit the story.
Speaker:And on the bottom they can,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:we can hot leak back to their business and explain who
Speaker:they are.
Speaker:So that's the way it's set up.
Speaker:And I'm really excited.
Speaker:It's doing great.
Speaker:And already I've been asked to submit awards from people in
Speaker:Europe. Oh wow.
Speaker:Wonderful. Yeah.
Speaker:So it's definitely something to watch.
Speaker:It's going faster than I thought,
Speaker:Abby, as you're getting socially sparked news up and running,
Speaker:was there a single social media site that you relied on
Speaker:and worked with to kind of get the word out there?
Speaker:I was so excited to launch officially launched so slowly sparked
Speaker:news. I mean,
Speaker:I quietly it went up without any fanfare.
Speaker:I did not announce it,
Speaker:which is what you should do with your regular business.
Speaker:You kind of work out the tweaks,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:kind of a soft opening.
Speaker:It was like a softer,
Speaker:but it was a soft launch.
Speaker:And I have like 5,000
Speaker:contacts. Will you with that email that I had written,
Speaker:but I'd been so busy.
Speaker:I didn't send it out.
Speaker:Usually it would not launch a new service without having like
Speaker:a thousand followers on Facebook or on Twitter.
Speaker:And I didn't wait,
Speaker:I just did it.
Speaker:And so I created the social networking sites for socially sparked
Speaker:news. I had a couple hundred already on Twitter because I
Speaker:had, I had had a second handle.
Speaker:I just changed it to socially spark news instead.
Speaker:But Facebook,
Speaker:I launched with zero followers in about two weeks.
Speaker:I gained 600 followers in no time.
Speaker:Oh my word.
Speaker:Yes. And then I wrote a story on the rolling stones.
Speaker:It was Havana moon.
Speaker:They were the first rock and roll band to play in
Speaker:Cuba in Havana because rock and roll was banned for those
Speaker:that don't know in Cuba.
Speaker:So that was huge.
Speaker:And I happened to get invited to the only North American
Speaker:private screening of the documentary.
Speaker:So I wrote about it the next day.
Speaker:And I had on Facebook alone in like two minutes,
Speaker:like 1400 impressions.
Speaker:I mean,
Speaker:it was crazy.
Speaker:So it's working,
Speaker:everything's working,
Speaker:I believe in organic growth.
Speaker:So when I see people that have like 20 K followers,
Speaker:that just didn't seem real to me,
Speaker:you know?
Speaker:Yeah. Unless you've grown it over time.
Speaker:Yeah. I'll caution give business nerves.
Speaker:We might've talked about this on a prior show.
Speaker:The last thing you want to do with any of your
Speaker:social media sites is buy followers or buy likes or any
Speaker:of that type of thing.
Speaker:Because if you ever want to go back and analyze the
Speaker:audience, you know,
Speaker:it's, you know,
Speaker:it's okay.
Speaker:So it's good for social proof.
Speaker:You've got these big numbers,
Speaker:so you look important,
Speaker:but the end result is are they really coming in and
Speaker:consuming what you're there for,
Speaker:whether it's a service or a product.
Speaker:And if you're just spending all of your time and focusing
Speaker:on getting random followers who really aren't aligned with what you're
Speaker:doing, all it is,
Speaker:is a number ticking up it,
Speaker:you know?
Speaker:Yes. A little bit of social credibility,
Speaker:but in the long run specially with Facebook now,
Speaker:because you can market against the people that like your page
Speaker:and get more,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:lookalikes like that.
Speaker:You don't want the wrong people.
Speaker:Cause they're going to muddy up what your real customer looks
Speaker:like. So that's,
Speaker:I like when Abby is talking about this,
Speaker:just in terms of Politik grow authentically and specially,
Speaker:if you're just starting out your idea about soft opening and
Speaker:just getting all the kinks out first,
Speaker:before you go gung-ho is really wise.
Speaker:Yeah. Organically growing is the way to go in a lot
Speaker:of the social media experts and influencers.
Speaker:They all echo the same thing.
Speaker:Absolutely. And then even the brands I've been at conferences and
Speaker:the brand,
Speaker:the big brands that are there speaking in panels,
Speaker:they even say nowadays quality over quantity.
Speaker:And that's huge.
Speaker:So that's another like emo that you should use.
Speaker:Absolutely. Okay.
Speaker:Abby, we're going to spend now into our reflection section,
Speaker:and this is an area where I'm just going to ask
Speaker:you a couple quick questions.
Speaker:It's more like fill in the blank just to give us
Speaker:a little more feel of different types of things that you're
Speaker:really good at that have helped you to be successful.
Speaker:If you were to call upon one trait that you feel
Speaker:like you've naturally had your whole life that you continue to
Speaker:use even today,
Speaker:what would that trait be?
Speaker:I'd say optimism and passion,
Speaker:Optimism and passion.
Speaker:Okay. And we've kind of been talking about that this whole
Speaker:time through.
Speaker:Yes we have.
Speaker:And what tool do you use regularly to help you keep
Speaker:productive or to create some balance in your life?
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:everybody's different and I have an amazing memory that I can
Speaker:thank my father for,
Speaker:but I did not use tools.
Speaker:Like there's,
Speaker:there are great tools out there like doodle,
Speaker:which is a new app that you can keep your notes
Speaker:on. But I think for me,
Speaker:the idea is like I said earlier,
Speaker:they come into my head,
Speaker:but the weirdest times only to remember,
Speaker:cause I'm like,
Speaker:okay, that's a story or that's a visual.
Speaker:So I use my iPhone notes and just type it right
Speaker:in there.
Speaker:So I don't need a pen or paper just depends on
Speaker:your individual self,
Speaker:what works best for you.
Speaker:If you are a to-do Lister,
Speaker:then you,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:you choose finding the best digital tool.
Speaker:And if you're not up to digital speed,
Speaker:then you know,
Speaker:go to an old,
Speaker:good, old fashioned notebook,
Speaker:which I still do use like soon while we're talking,
Speaker:I didn't have answers written down,
Speaker:but I did reread sort of what your What'd,
Speaker:your questions were going to be Based on your other shows.
Speaker:So I'm looking at my good old fashioned notebook that has
Speaker:my brand new logo for socially sparked news on it.
Speaker:Okay. I wondered one just to test it out.
Speaker:You know,
Speaker:I think the really important thing that you just talked about
Speaker:here is good ideas can be so fleeting,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:and when you land it,
Speaker:when you have this idea,
Speaker:maybe it's for a new topic for an article or a
Speaker:social media post or something for your product or whatever.
Speaker:Oh my gosh,
Speaker:you can think right at that moment,
Speaker:you're going to remember it forever.
Speaker:And then two hours later,
Speaker:it's like,
Speaker:what was that idea again?
Speaker:So no matter as we're talking,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:I phone notes or pen and paper,
Speaker:whatever, have some system that works for you where you can
Speaker:capture that information.
Speaker:What book have you read lately that you think our listeners
Speaker:could find value in?
Speaker:Actually it's a book that I often go back to,
Speaker:it's called the artist's way.
Speaker:It's a spiritual path or just a path to higher creativity.
Speaker:The author is Julia Cameron really it's,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:it helps you how to overcome creative blocks,
Speaker:whether it's business planning or if you're creative type in writing
Speaker:or designing,
Speaker:it applies to every field.
Speaker:So I constantly go back to it because oftentimes you just
Speaker:kind of get stuck or you're starting a business and then
Speaker:you're just stuck on where to go next.
Speaker:Or you remember,
Speaker:you can't remember cause you're so busy doing other things in
Speaker:life, you know,
Speaker:that are interfering.
Speaker:It helps.
Speaker:I highly recommend it.
Speaker:She's an American teacher,
Speaker:she's an artist,
Speaker:she's a playwright and novelist and journalist.
Speaker:And she also,
Speaker:I think they use this book and school in New York
Speaker:city called the new school,
Speaker:which is a very,
Speaker:you know,
Speaker:there's the new school of social work and there's also a
Speaker:journalism school.
Speaker:So I would recommend it.
Speaker:Perfect. And right in line with all of the creators and
Speaker:makers who are listening to the show.
Speaker:So, and give biz listeners just as you're listening to the
Speaker:podcast today,
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Speaker:Okay. Abby,
Speaker:I want to present you with a virtual gift.
Speaker:It's a magical box containing unlimited possibilities for your future.
Speaker:So this is your dream or your goal of almost unreachable
Speaker:Heights that you would wish to obtain.
Speaker:Please accept this gift in our presence and open it.
Speaker:What is inside your box?
Speaker:A fortune?
Speaker:What kind of fortune financial fortune It's at fortune telling fortune
Speaker:because I think my goal and everything that I want to
Speaker:do, what I'd like to see happen in my lifetime.
Speaker:So it's about inspiration to help change the world.
Speaker:That if everybody could just do one thing,
Speaker:we could all work together to really change the world and
Speaker:all the issues that are going on,
Speaker:not just in our country here in the U S but
Speaker:abroad. That's the goal of the powers that be,
Speaker:that I think is in my box because we need more
Speaker:people that can inspire others moving forward so that we can
Speaker:really change the world.
Speaker:So that's it Wonderful.
Speaker:And that's right in line with socially sparked news,
Speaker:since you're talking about motivating,
Speaker:uplifting stories,
Speaker:and it all comes together,
Speaker:you are nothing,
Speaker:if not consistent,
Speaker:right? The same message through the whole way,
Speaker:which is wonderful because that's exactly who you are and give
Speaker:biz listeners.
Speaker:There are so many places to get in touch with Abby
Speaker:because she's got a couple of things going on and you
Speaker:know, all of that is going to be over on the
Speaker:show notes page.
Speaker:But if there was one place Abby,
Speaker:that you would direct people,
Speaker:if they're just listening and not near a computer,
Speaker:where would that be?
Speaker:I would say go To Abby sparks media.com.
Speaker:And you can go to my newsroom.
Speaker:And some of the things that we talked about today in
Speaker:our broadcast about the tools that you could use,
Speaker:if you're just starting a business or the three things you
Speaker:should do first,
Speaker:they're in my stories in my archives.
Speaker:If you go through,
Speaker:you'll find some very inspirational and helpful tools in marketing Look
Speaker:so we can learn more from you right over there.
Speaker:Absolutely. You certainly can.
Speaker:Perfect. All right,
Speaker:Abby, I think you've helped us so much see a different
Speaker:side of PR and I really appreciate the whole concept of
Speaker:old fashioned in terms of its term,
Speaker:but it's morphed into combining with technology today.
Speaker:We should be looking at it in a whole different way
Speaker:yet. Keep the good things from the past.
Speaker:We've kind of lost sight of some of that in terms
Speaker:of the steps and the true PR things that we can
Speaker:be doing to advance our businesses.
Speaker:So that's been really enlightening to me and I'm sure to
Speaker:our gift biz listeners.
Speaker:So I really appreciate your joining me today,
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Speaker:It's been a really valuable conversation and may your candle always
Speaker:burn bright?
Speaker:Thank you so much.
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