Listen, Jesus said it pretty plainly.
Caesar Kalinowski:I am the way and the truth and the life.
Caesar Kalinowski:No one comes to the Father except through me.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:John 14, 6.
Caesar Kalinowski:Through us having a relationship.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's what he's saying.
Caesar Kalinowski:And when he taught his disciples how to pray, he led them in relationship to the Father.
Caesar Kalinowski:Prayer was always, in Jesus mind, meant to be a conversation with our Father, our Daddy, our Abba.
Caesar Kalinowski:If your prayers are cold and formal, self focused or rare, then seeing prayer as a time we get to talk with our Daddy.
Caesar Kalinowski:Dad, our perfect dad, and realign our priorities and trust with his will, that'll draw you to the source of all life and grace and love.
Caesar Kalinowski:Prayer is all about relationship.
Heath Hollensbe:Welcome to the Everyday Disciple Podcast,
Heath Hollensbe:where you'll learn how to live with greater intentionality and an integrated faith that naturally fits into every area of life.
Heath Hollensbe:In other words, discipleship as a lifestyle.
Heath Hollensbe:This is the stuff your parents, pastors, and seminary professors probably forgot to tell you.
Heath Hollensbe:And now, here's your host, Caesar Kalinowski.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey Heath, hope you're doing well.
Caesar Kalinowski:Doing great.
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Caesar Kalinowski:All right, let's jump into our discussion on prayer.
Caesar Kalinowski:Prayer is all about relationship.
Caesar Kalinowski:And as we're going to talk about today, it is so full of gospel.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's so full of good news.
Caesar Kalinowski:And once you see it, like what I'm going to share today, I've never really heard anybody share it exactly this way.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're going to look at the six movements of the Lord's Prayer, which that's not new.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's been around as long as I can remember.
Caesar Kalinowski:But I'm going to kind of bring a gospel focus and perspective and relational focus to each of those.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:And once you hear them, man, you can't unhear it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like it changes that forever.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I was, I was raised, quote, Protestant, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:But I went to Catholic school growing up, and so, one of the things they would have us do a lot is recite the prayer, you know, for Matthew 6, over and over and over and over and over and over and over, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't know what it was supposed to do, and, and just, it, it made it so numb, and so not relational.
Heath Hollensbe:Sure, it's like the Pledge of Allegiance, and you just forget what you're saying, you don't, you don't really think about it, cause
Caesar Kalinowski:it's all, Yeah, that's why no one can recite it right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah,
Heath Hollensbe:And I would argue that you know Everybody knows the Lord's Prayer non believer I mean, there's many people that that know it like formally But don't really have the gospel lens in which to interpret it which I will put some framework on that today,
Caesar Kalinowski:right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And I'll tell you once I started seeing The Lord's Prayer through this gospel lens, I realized, Oh my gosh, it really covers all of life and I can take any little thing to it and there's a spot for it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Thanks Jesus for this pattern.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, you know, and it ends up in good news.
Caesar Kalinowski:So it's like, Oh, it's so much bigger.
Caesar Kalinowski:I, you know, I've heard it taught through the six movements, but real like pragmatically, it's due to be, it's kind of like.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep, God, you do this.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's why you're this way, you know, and I want to do this more so that I'll be more like, you know, it's, it's, it's too pragmatic.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's, it's not relational.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's not beautiful, but it is actually.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I hope, I hope I can shine a little bit of beauty light on this today.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, okay, let's go to Matthew six and let's start.
Caesar Kalinowski:So yeah, so in that, that's the pattern, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Matthew six is the pattern that Jesus taught his disciples when they asked him how to pray.
Caesar Kalinowski:They saw him praying all the time.
Caesar Kalinowski:We call it the Lord's Prayer, like we've already said, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Which, I gotta be honest with you, I'm not a huge fan of that term, because that's not what Jesus called it.
Caesar Kalinowski:He didn't say, like, pray the Lord's Prayer, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:And, and here's why, I kind of already tipped my hand to it.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's because for too many of us around the world, we've turned His beautiful relational pattern into the actual prayer itself.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that, like we just said, has made it cold and rote and somewhat lifeless and lacking in relationship.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so, yeah, anyway, let me read it first and then I'm going to go back through the six movements and really kind of unpack it.
Caesar Kalinowski:All right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So Matthew six, starting in nine and this is, this will be NIV and uh, yeah, so he goes, this then is how, not what, by the way, how you should pray.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here's the pattern.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
Caesar Kalinowski:Give us today, some, some translations say each of us our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, our sins, as we also have forgiven our debtors, or those who sin against us.
Caesar Kalinowski:And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Caesar Kalinowski:For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever.
Caesar Kalinowski:Amen.
Caesar Kalinowski:Amen.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right?
Caesar Kalinowski:So even in just hearing it, you know, cause I've been raised going to church my whole life and, and like I said, you know, top like, Oh, so many people try to turn this into like a cold thing, but it's not where my heart is anymore.
Caesar Kalinowski:So when I hear it, even I get a little verklempt.
Caesar Kalinowski:So it's, there's so much in it.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's so beautiful, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And so, you know, Jesus said it pretty plainly, I am the way, the truth, and the life.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so no one comes to the Father except through him, through having a relationship.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so when we, when he taught his disciples how to pray, what he was really teaching them how to do is like, Here's how you have that talk with dad, you know, here's prayer is relationship.
Caesar Kalinowski:So let me show it to you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So let's break down this relational prayer pattern that Jesus gave us and, uh, and see how the gospel is actually woven into all of it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Cool.
Caesar Kalinowski:Cool.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm excited about this.
Caesar Kalinowski:By the way, it's, it's, it's really good news that can be applied to any area of life.
Caesar Kalinowski:So even though I'm going to take it like through the six classic six step pattern, sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can go back and say, okay, I'm facing this blue.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's going to fit like a glove into one of these six.
Caesar Kalinowski:And now you're gonna know how to pray the gospel over it.
Caesar Kalinowski:So it doesn't, wouldn't matter even what it was.
Caesar Kalinowski:And maybe we'll have time and we can pick a few things and, you know, go back and see how they fit.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:So he said, this then is how, in verse 9, this is the first of the movements.
Caesar Kalinowski:This then is how, like I already said, not what, but how you should pray.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here's the pattern.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.
Caesar Kalinowski:So this first of the six movements is about identity.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's about who are we talking to?
Caesar Kalinowski:And who are we?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, this is an identity, a relational thing here.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our father.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:So right away we see God and Jesus is saying as our Abba, our daddy, our father.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that is radical thinking in the day.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sure.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like nobody thought of their gods, little G gods.
Caesar Kalinowski:as a daddy.
Caesar Kalinowski:It was all like wrath and fire and I gotta sacrifice babies and animals and you know, to try to appease him and he's pissed off all the time.
Caesar Kalinowski:And even the Jewish people would have seen him maybe as like the quote, father of Israel or the father of creation.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, like a distant.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, right.
Caesar Kalinowski:But to think of him as daddy, completely like mind blowing.
Caesar Kalinowski:So that it's right at the beginning.
Caesar Kalinowski:So right away you're going like, who am I praying to?
Caesar Kalinowski:It's my dad.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:But by saying our father, there's something else going on.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our means there's a communal aspect going on.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's not just my dad.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's not just Jesus dad.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's, you and I, brother, that's the same dad.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Which makes us children of the same dad.
Caesar Kalinowski:Cause if he's dad, then I'm his son.
Caesar Kalinowski:You're his son.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yep.
Caesar Kalinowski:But it also makes us family.
Caesar Kalinowski:Boom.
Caesar Kalinowski:So just in this opening in verse nine, this then is how you should pray.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our Father.
Caesar Kalinowski:Boom.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right away.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like, okay, wait a minute.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's right.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm part of a community.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm part of dad's family.
Caesar Kalinowski:God's my dad.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like he's not distant ticked off at me.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like it's so packed, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:That's so good, man.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then he goes on hallowed be your name.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we don't say hallowed much.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's holy.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's the word holy, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:God is holy.
Caesar Kalinowski:And the way we say this in the story of God, as we say, he always does what is good, right and perfect.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's holy.
Caesar Kalinowski:He set apart.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's the only one.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we were created in his image to be like him, good, right, and perfect.
Caesar Kalinowski:So now we're starting off this prayer relationship.
Caesar Kalinowski:Dad, who is perfect and good and right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I'm your son creating your image.
Caesar Kalinowski:And you know what?
Caesar Kalinowski:You actually created me to be good, right, and perfect like you are.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like Jesus said, don't go and don't sin anymore.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just like your father, God.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right, right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And guess what?
Caesar Kalinowski:And here's, this is where it gets to gospel in Jesus eyes and in the father's eyes because of Jesus.
Caesar Kalinowski:We are already seen that way good right and perfect by our dad.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hmm.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey, you don't work yourself because what Jesus has done on the cross You don't have to earn that somehow It's not by like well if you tithe long enough if you get up and pray for 40 days straight or you know There's something we're already seen as good right and perfect in our dad's eyes because of Jesus So what it makes me want to hang out with him more.
Heath Hollensbe:Well, yeah already the first two lines are It's just a shattering way of looking at You know, I always prayed it as in using the Hollywood King James, so it's like Hollywood.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah, so there's a sense of our father who art in heaven So there's a distance.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah, you're there.
Heath Hollensbe:I'm here Hollywood be your name unapproachable and so to view it in the sense of like identity is I mean, we're already resetting
Caesar Kalinowski:the playing field from ground one.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now, doesn't that just change, boom, the way you want to pray?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, we get to pray.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sounds amazing, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, it's a conversation with our holy, amazing daddy.
Caesar Kalinowski:Absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm going to keep us moving on.
Caesar Kalinowski:Verse 10, Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Caesar Kalinowski:So this step of the sixth sort of movements is all about kingdom, meaning who's really in charge here, who, who's on the throne, if you will.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we're getting reminded of that.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm talking to dad.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I'm saying, your kingdom come, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey dad, it's your kingdom that needs to come down here to earth a whole lot more.
Caesar Kalinowski:Starting in my own life.
Caesar Kalinowski:I love it because it's like, on earth as it is in heaven.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I'm just reminded like, in heaven, no one's confused.
Caesar Kalinowski:No one's fearful.
Caesar Kalinowski:No one's lacking.
Caesar Kalinowski:No one's wondering, what's God really like, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Because we'll see clearly.
Caesar Kalinowski:Are people provided for?
Caesar Kalinowski:Is there, is there still tears?
Caesar Kalinowski:Is there war?
Caesar Kalinowski:Is there, no.
Caesar Kalinowski:We know that's all put away.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's all over.
Caesar Kalinowski:So Jesus is saying, That's what we need.
Caesar Kalinowski:Not our agenda, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey dad, it's your kingdom.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey dad, it's your will, not my own, that I really want to happen today.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, I got my calendar packed, I didn't even ask you about it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Father, your will be done today.
Caesar Kalinowski:So if you change the whole thing, so, so the gospel connected here, the good news.
Caesar Kalinowski:Remember, Jesus came proclaiming the good news of the kingdom, it said.
Caesar Kalinowski:So here we are right away at the second little bit of this prayer.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey dad, your kingdom come.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that, that through his life, Jesus said in his death and resurrection, God was now making a way for all of humanity to be restored, to live in a close familial relationship.
Caesar Kalinowski:That was the good news of the kingdom.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like God's no longer far away.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you've seen me, you've seen God.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, you look like a person.
Caesar Kalinowski:You look like a really nice guy.
Caesar Kalinowski:You're healing people.
Caesar Kalinowski:You're feeding people.
Caesar Kalinowski:You're, you hang out.
Caesar Kalinowski:You like, you like to party.
Caesar Kalinowski:If you've seen me, you've seen God.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's the good news of the kingdom and that we can now all live under his perfect rule and reign the way we were originally created to be.
Caesar Kalinowski:So come father, bring a lot more of that to my life, my family into this world.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And here's a bit of a diagnostic question to go with it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like what's happening in your life right now that you're trying to control for your own preference or liking, you know, and I just say, pray to dad, release it to him, ask him to have his will.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then to rule and reign over that thing in that situation, not yours, but his rule and reign would happen.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah,
Heath Hollensbe:and that's what we're living for, right?
Heath Hollensbe:The kingdom come, like, like.
Heath Hollensbe:Let
Caesar Kalinowski:it be here.
Caesar Kalinowski:And this isn't a, I mean, as a kid, I prayed this and it was like, your kingdom come, like, I guess someday, maybe thousands of years, maybe it'll be tomorrow, like, no, no, now, Jesus is saying, like, now, today, like, my calendar, that thing at work, that thing, that doctor's appointment I'm supposed to hear back today, you know, my kid, that, that teacher called, again, I got to go see her, you know, it's like, like, your kingdom come, your will be done, your rule in here, I don't, I have to stress on this.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, it's so pretty.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, verse 11, this is the third part of the movement.
Caesar Kalinowski:Give us today, each of us, our daily bread.
Caesar Kalinowski:So this is a section on provision, and many of you have seen that before.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like, hey, we can trust God for that, and I just, in this I see, I see God is our true provision, and praying this way, I need to be reminded of that.
Caesar Kalinowski:I need to be reminded that he's actually the provision, it's not Caesar, you're so smart, you're so funny, you're so good, you know, you work so hard, you know, he sustains and cares for us and our needs.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're not these self made, you know, men or self made women or self made people who work hard for, you know, I, I earned everything.
Caesar Kalinowski:I can remember years ago, a buddy of mine going, Man, I'm looking at your life and the way it's going.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's just so beautiful.
Caesar Kalinowski:You and your wife and kids.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is years ago.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm like, dude, Jesus.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's like, no, man, you work hard.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, it's like you earned it.
Caesar Kalinowski:You deserve it.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm like, no, you don't know what I deserve.
Caesar Kalinowski:I deserve death, man.
Caesar Kalinowski:We are not our providers or the provisional source for our family.
Caesar Kalinowski:But how many of us listen right now?
Caesar Kalinowski:People listening are going.
Caesar Kalinowski:I feel the way to be in the provision for my family, like to the point of throwing up or wanting to like, how many, how many say, how many people just like spike the ball and leave their family every year?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like thousands of thousands.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's tons, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Men and women, you are not the provisional source for your family.
Caesar Kalinowski:God alone is.
Caesar Kalinowski:And recognizing this, and thanks Jesus for this part of the relational prayer pattern, recognizing this frees us up from trying to be our own provision.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like God calls us to work, so those of you who don't work shouldn't eat and all, but work.
Caesar Kalinowski:Amen.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's the source of provision, both for forgiveness and atonement, okay, but also for all of our other physical and relational needs in our life.
Caesar Kalinowski:God's the source for all of that.
Caesar Kalinowski:So the pressure's off.
Caesar Kalinowski:So here's the gospel that, that God sort of megawatt proves that he can meet our daily needs like bread by not withholding even his own son, Jesus, in our greatest need.
Caesar Kalinowski:Remember, it was Jesus who taught us this prayer too.
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, you know, and talk about gospel in that.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's not just like our daily bread, like man on the ground, like, well, we'll get by kids.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like, no, no, no, no, a father, a daddy who would not withhold his own son to meet that greatest need.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's not going to, he's not meet our daily needs and relational needs and all that.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's why he sent Jesus.
Heath Hollensbe:The other thing it does there is it actually like.
Heath Hollensbe:I think it's really good to be, to force yourself to remember every day that, that your provision and everything given to you is, it's humbling to admit that it's not on you.
Heath Hollensbe:Because a lot of us would say like, Oh, yeah, God's our provider.
Heath Hollensbe:Yet we live lives that are completely opposite.
Heath Hollensbe:That's right.
Heath Hollensbe:We're stressing ourself out, five jobs.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah, I mean, that's right.
Heath Hollensbe:Story of my life, right?
Heath Hollensbe:But to be able to like position yourself, like, I have to remember that it is Him who provides.
Heath Hollensbe:He's good.
Heath Hollensbe:He's generous.
Heath Hollensbe:And so I don't have to lose my mind killing myself to provide for my family because he's,
Caesar Kalinowski:it's his.
Caesar Kalinowski:So take all the things you're stressing about and you're trying to be the provision for your kid's success, your, your income.
Caesar Kalinowski:We always put this in the income and like stuff column.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's way bigger than that.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's way bigger than that.
Caesar Kalinowski:All right.
Caesar Kalinowski:Next movement.
Caesar Kalinowski:Verse 12.
Caesar Kalinowski:And forgive us our debts.
Caesar Kalinowski:Some translations say, some say sins.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:I like sins because I, you know, did a little bit of Greek work on this getting, you know, ready to talk about it, but.
Caesar Kalinowski:It really is.
Caesar Kalinowski:It has to do with, um, like in Greek, it's, it's interesting.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like forgive in Greek says to send away, to let go, to give up debt, to forgive.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's amazing.
Caesar Kalinowski:But it has to do with sin.
Caesar Kalinowski:It has to do with transgression against God or not believing the truth.
Caesar Kalinowski:Isn't that cool?
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so, and so Jesus is saying, okay, dad, who is the provider of all things, it's your will.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're looking for forgive us our sins.
Caesar Kalinowski:As we have forgiven our debtors.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's not like if we do, so like, well, I won't forgive you.
Caesar Kalinowski:Right.
Caesar Kalinowski:So what's, what's the overarching theme of this movement?
Caesar Kalinowski:It's, it's really about posture.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's, I think it's a posture of humility when we can admit we're in need of forgiveness.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, how do you come to the gospel?
Caesar Kalinowski:How do you come to the cross?
Caesar Kalinowski:If you go like, well, I'm not that bad, you know, like I haven't, you know, I don't rob blanks, banks and kill people.
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't sleep around, you know, um, you can't come to the right way.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, we admit we're in need of forgiveness.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so often we've exalted self and our own glory above God's and other people.
Caesar Kalinowski:So this is about posture to me, like it's not a, it's, this isn't like, okay, I'm not going to be saved if I don't pray this or no, no, that's not what this is about.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is a posture of humility, reminding ourselves that in our greatest need, it's been provided.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our gracious fathers offers ultimate forgiveness in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we don't have to live with shame or guilt.
Caesar Kalinowski:overpass stuff.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's forgiven.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's finished at the cross.
Caesar Kalinowski:The Bible teaches us that God looks at us.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's not like, Oh, Heath, you know, I love this kid, but I had to forgive him of a lot of stuff.
Caesar Kalinowski:Here's the list, but I don't look at it anymore.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like, he goes, what sin?
Caesar Kalinowski:He looks at Heath.
Caesar Kalinowski:He doesn't even see it.
Caesar Kalinowski:What's sin, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And so when we go, forgive us our sins, that's what's going on there as we have forgiven those who sin against us, our debtors, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And so we also get to remember not only have at the greatest price of God's own son, our brother Jesus, our Lord and our Savior, we also get to forgive others with that same measure that we've been forgiven.
Caesar Kalinowski:Because why?
Caesar Kalinowski:Because forgiveness restores both our relationship with God, Jesus wiped a slate clean so we can hang out with dad again.
Caesar Kalinowski:and with each other.
Caesar Kalinowski:So that holding that debt, that's, that's why it is a good word to holding that quote debt over someone's head is not being like God, where God says, what sin, what debt that's been paid for?
Caesar Kalinowski:Well, I mean, I covered it.
Caesar Kalinowski:I marked a red line through it, but you owe me.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Look over it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm going to over.
Caesar Kalinowski:No, it's like what's in, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:It's so cool to think of it this way and forgive us our debts, our sins.
Caesar Kalinowski:as we have also forgiven our debtors.
Caesar Kalinowski:Talk about relational good news here.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Between us and God and us and everybody else.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, and, and, and that's the posture I want to have.
Caesar Kalinowski:And when we can believe this, it just levels everything out and you don't see yourselves.
Caesar Kalinowski:We don't see ourselves as above people that it removes that whole benevolent stooping of Christians.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, well, you know, we're going to help them, you know?
Caesar Kalinowski:And, but I mean, they, they caused this.
Caesar Kalinowski:That was their choice.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Their bad choices is screwing themselves.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's like, It's none of that.
Caesar Kalinowski:It takes it all out of that and just removes
Heath Hollensbe:it.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah, and it's constant reframing of remembering that we get to forgive, and as we forgive others, we're reminded of the forgiveness that's shown to us by Jesus.
Heath Hollensbe:It's both ends.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's a beautiful loop of relational healing and atonement, and all because of the cross, all because of Christ, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, such good news!
Caesar Kalinowski:It's so good.
Caesar Kalinowski:Alright, the next movement, um, and verse 13, And lead us not into temptation, So this is about guidance.
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is about guidance and direction as part of the movement.
Caesar Kalinowski:Now, right away, in my whole life, I've been kind of caught by this like, wait, wait, does God tempt us to sin?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, so why would Jesus teach us the pattern is.
Caesar Kalinowski:Don't lead us into temptation.
Caesar Kalinowski:But we, we right away, we know, no, that's not what's going on here in this verse.
Caesar Kalinowski:James 1, 13, 14 says, When tempted, no one should say, God's tempting me, for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone.
Caesar Kalinowski:But each one is tempted when, what, by his own evil desire, he's dragged away and enticed.
Caesar Kalinowski:So Jesus, James here is taking it way deeper to say, Hey, temptation is a situation.
Caesar Kalinowski:That situation can grow you, that situation to remind you of God's provision.
Caesar Kalinowski:It can remind you of your own self will, self love, or you can go into it.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can dive deep into it.
Caesar Kalinowski:And it's when that happens by your own evil desire, self love, all that, that you're dragged away.
Caesar Kalinowski:And that's when it really starts.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, so, James says God doesn't tempt, that's true, but the Bible also says Jesus was led by the Spirit, who is God, into the wilderness to be tempted, but by who?
Caesar Kalinowski:By God?
Caesar Kalinowski:No, by the evil one.
Caesar Kalinowski:The evil one.
Caesar Kalinowski:I found this cool thing from Piper, he says, what this is saying here, and I think it helps.
Caesar Kalinowski:is what it teaches us to pray is that the temptation does not take us in.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're saying, God, you're going to keep shaping us.
Caesar Kalinowski:And just like Jesus was led and tempted in every way, but all it did was refine his clarification of who dad was and that he wasn't his own provision.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then his trust was there.
Caesar Kalinowski:Go back and look at the three temptations, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:That we have a record of, and it's all these, it's all in the same prayer.
Caesar Kalinowski:And he, What Piper is saying is, what we're praying is actually is like, when you're leading us in life, Lord, don't let those temptations take us in.
Caesar Kalinowski:Don't lead me into places that You know are gonna be too hard for me.
Caesar Kalinowski:Deliver me from this evil that's set before me and be my provision out of it, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:So, so, you know, the truth is today we're all gonna stand before innumerable temptations like so many.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's what life is.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's an endless set of choices between belief and unbelief, between trust God I don't trust, I trust myself, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:I'll manage to get knowledge of good and evil for myself.
Caesar Kalinowski:Obedience, disobedience, but God forbid that I'd yield to that.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's what this prayer is about.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hold me back from stepping inside that temptation and being my evil own heart leading me away, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, what's interesting
Heath Hollensbe:is a pop culture reference, but just a couple of weeks ago, actually Pope Francis approved changing the phrase, lead us not into temptation.
Heath Hollensbe:And he suggested we now pray at Do Not Let Us Fall Into Temptation, which might be an
Caesar Kalinowski:interesting way of I think that's, I think that's kind of what I see the scripture getting at here.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:But didn't he take it further though?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, he went on a little bit more.
Caesar Kalinowski:Didn't it a little further?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Where'd he go?
Caesar Kalinowski:Didn't he go somewhere else wacky?
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, he went
Heath Hollensbe:a little bit crazy on it.
Heath Hollensbe:He said, I'm the one who fails.
Heath Hollensbe:It's not him pushing me into temptation to then see how I've fallen.
Heath Hollensbe:The pope says, a father doesn't do that.
Heath Hollensbe:A father helps you get up immediately.
Heath Hollensbe:It's Satan who leads us into temptation.
Heath Hollensbe:That's his department.
Heath Hollensbe:Which.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't know about that last part.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, there again, it goes, so this, this leads right into, okay, well, first off, what's the gospel?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, what's the gospel about this?
Caesar Kalinowski:Lead us not into temptation.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's that we have, we have not just been saved from our sins, so we'll go to heaven one day.
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus prayed that God's will would be done on earth as it is in heaven right here.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're being conformed into the likeness, the glory of God in Christ.
Caesar Kalinowski:So we can both ask God to lead and guide that transformational path through trials, through things that'll shape us, and we can trust him to keep us from falling into temptation, i.
Caesar Kalinowski:e.
Caesar Kalinowski:to give in to unbelief and self love and having to control it and be my own provision and all the stuff we've been talking about.
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus is teaching us.
Caesar Kalinowski:You can trust dad to conform you to my image, you know, lead us, but not into temptation.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then it goes into 13b here, but deliver us from evil.
Caesar Kalinowski:And some, some will say, or from the evil one, and that's about protection.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's that's we've kind of already tipped into it.
Caesar Kalinowski:See.
Caesar Kalinowski:If it's the evil one, if that's the accurate translation, well, we know there's an accuser out there.
Caesar Kalinowski:We have an enemy that rolls around, and that's what we see in the temptation of Christ, led by the Spirit, by the way, by the way, out to the wilderness to be tempted, but was not the one tempting.
Caesar Kalinowski:Satan was the one doing the attempting and was an accuser.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, if you're God's son, then why don't you turn these rocks into bread and feed yourself, be your own provision, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:And so he's attacking his identity.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's going to happen here too.
Caesar Kalinowski:Remember the beginning of the prayer?
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus is solidifying our identity.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our identity, God's our father.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's our daddy.
Caesar Kalinowski:We can approach him.
Caesar Kalinowski:We're our kids.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's our father.
Caesar Kalinowski:We do this in community.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is how God created us to live.
Caesar Kalinowski:This last bit of this prayer is we do have an accuser who will consistently try to get us to believe lies and live only for ourselves and Connected to that last little bit here We see the good news is that not only can we pray asking dad to lead us in ways that conform and mature us like I already said yeah But also to protect us from ourselves from the enemy from our own evil desires like certain areas of our life He's working on yes all that And, and we can trust Him for that.
Caesar Kalinowski:Colossians 2, 14 to 15 describes what God did for those who trust His Son when He died on the cross.
Caesar Kalinowski:He said, that record of debt that stood against us, He set it aside, nailing it to the cross.
Caesar Kalinowski:He disarmed the rulers and authorities, He's talking about Satan here, and put them to open shame by triumphing over them.
Caesar Kalinowski:on the cross, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:So we know that the enemy's, the enemy's defeated, okay?
Caesar Kalinowski:We have been delivered, if we'll trust him.
Caesar Kalinowski:So often when God is leading us through parts of life that he knows what he's doing and he knows how he's conforming us to the image of Christ.
Caesar Kalinowski:We think, oh, God's forsaken me, and we, we begin to grasp back, control, my will done, my kingdom, my control.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm gonna provide them what I need, what I think I want, all that stuff.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's not the good news.
Caesar Kalinowski:The good news of the gospel is, nope, that's all been done already.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's finished.
Caesar Kalinowski:And then, not all translations have it, but I think it's right.
Caesar Kalinowski:It feels too good because it's a perfect bookend to the beginning.
Caesar Kalinowski:Jesus sends this pattern of prayer for yours, Father.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's the kingdom.
Caesar Kalinowski:and the power and the glory forever.
Caesar Kalinowski:Not mine.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's not my kingdom.
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't have that kind of power.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's not about my glory.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's about yours forever.
Caesar Kalinowski:Amen.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's so beautiful.
Caesar Kalinowski:And so we see here in this pattern of Jesus prayer.
Caesar Kalinowski:Every part of our life.
Caesar Kalinowski:There's nothing that we couldn't go.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, that's that.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's that fourth movement.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's that fifth movement.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Sixth movement.
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm feeling like I'm feeling accused right now.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like I'm doubting my sonship.
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't does God really love me or do I have to earn it?
Caesar Kalinowski:There's an enemy.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's defeated.
Caesar Kalinowski:You don't have to believe that he's he's the loser in this battle.
Caesar Kalinowski:We know he's out there roaming around.
Caesar Kalinowski:He'll be put away like never to be seen again someday.
Caesar Kalinowski:But right now he's roaming around.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's defeated though.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's a loser.
Caesar Kalinowski:We don't listen to him.
Caesar Kalinowski:Everything in life can be fit into one of these things.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's all about relationship and it all beautifully reminds us of and points us to the gospel.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, once we see it that way.
Heath Hollensbe:Yeah, you're right.
Heath Hollensbe:It's it's gonna be really hard to unsee the Lord's Prayer that way You don't pray it wrote anymore You pray it with identity and protection and you can
Caesar Kalinowski:seriously just pray one of these and just focus on it and go like what?
Caesar Kalinowski:Are all the areas of my life.
Caesar Kalinowski:I need to be reminded God.
Caesar Kalinowski:You're you're my dad Yeah, like what am I?
Caesar Kalinowski:What am I not?
Caesar Kalinowski:I'm not approaching you like a dad or today when I was at work I was like dad.
Caesar Kalinowski:I didn't even ask you I didn't even talk to you about your or provision I'm stressing over this thing or I'm feeling attacked, but I feel like somehow you're in it Lord, you're conforming me to Christ likeness, but it's causing me to go here Lord, lead me not into temptation, please.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like keep doing your good work, I trust you, but deliver me, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:Deliver me from evil.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, every, like, we can just look at, we can look at each one of these or we can pray our whole life through this every morning, or every day, or all night, or whatever we need to do.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's, it's, it's so big, man, and it super bums me.
Caesar Kalinowski:When it just gets turned into a, like a rote, like, how many times can you say it?
Caesar Kalinowski:You got to pray this a hundred times.
Heath Hollensbe:It's a whole different approach to it.
Heath Hollensbe:Hey, thanks for sharing that.
Heath Hollensbe:That's a really
Caesar Kalinowski:cool take.
Caesar Kalinowski:This has been simmering on my heart for a long time.
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't think I've perfectly expressed it here today yet, but I'm, it's like God's birthing it.
Caesar Kalinowski:You know, like I'd never heard it quite taught like through the lens of the gospel this way.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I'd love to get people's feedback on it and even more gospel good news to poke it in there.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, and, uh, yeah, maybe someday I'll turn into a book or something.
Caesar Kalinowski:I don't know.
Caesar Kalinowski:Who knows?
Caesar Kalinowski:That'd be fun.
Caesar Kalinowski:Hey, let's get
Heath Hollensbe:to the big three for today.
Heath Hollensbe:The big three is the free download of the PDF you can get by going to everydaydisciple.
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Heath Hollensbe:You'll get the free download of the Big Three, which are just the three takeaways, if nothing else, we want you to walk away with this week.
Heath Hollensbe:Caesar, what are the Big Three for this week?
Caesar Kalinowski:Okay, number one, don't miss it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Prayer was always meant to be a conversation with our father, our daddy.
Caesar Kalinowski:This is relational prayer.
Caesar Kalinowski:And if your prayers are cold or formal or self focused or not so often, then seeing prayer as a time that we get to talk with dad and realign our priorities and trust with his, it will draw you to the source of all life and grace and love.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, what have you been waiting to tell or ask dad about?
Caesar Kalinowski:Like, you get to.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah, and you
Heath Hollensbe:get to approach him as father, not as some distant dictator
Caesar Kalinowski:or distant.
Caesar Kalinowski:And we get to do it together, which also reminds me that, okay, because of the gospel, I get to pray for you, and it's effective, and you get to pray for me, and I want to, and oh yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:That's great.
Caesar Kalinowski:Second, day three.
Caesar Kalinowski:Um, seeking the kingdom and the will of our father here on earth removes the weight of trying to build our own kingdoms.
Caesar Kalinowski:It's just good news on top of good news, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:It's his kingdom.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I don't, I don't want my will done on her.
Caesar Kalinowski:I mean, I do, right.
Caesar Kalinowski:But no, I want his perfect will as it's perfect in heaven.
Caesar Kalinowski:They're not all messed up and confused and weird and fighting and struggling and all that.
Caesar Kalinowski:So, so much of what stresses us out in life, maybe everything that does comes from us trying to build our own kingdoms and see our will be done not only for ourselves, but we want everyone else to kind of come in line with our will too.
Caesar Kalinowski:So let go and let dad, we've heard the old school, you know, let go, let go, let go, let dad, you know, Ask him what his will for your life or this conversation you've got to have with somebody today or your hopes in a certain part of your life on your dreams or fears.
Caesar Kalinowski:Ask him how to have his will done and then ask him to guide you into those things.
Caesar Kalinowski:You have to trust him.
Caesar Kalinowski:Could be crazy, but trust him.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah,
Heath Hollensbe:building your own kingdom is just so exhausting.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh, stop.
Caesar Kalinowski:Like we don't have to like we get to be reminded.
Caesar Kalinowski:No, it's your good kingdom.
Caesar Kalinowski:Yeah.
Caesar Kalinowski:Number three, praying through this pattern that Jesus gave us covers every area of life, and I said that earlier, but don't miss it.
Caesar Kalinowski:Every fear, every need, every temptation, every attack, every hope, whatever, it all fits in there, and there's gospel for it, and there's relational wholeness there for it.
Caesar Kalinowski:So take a few minutes now to pray through the six movements.
Caesar Kalinowski:Just open up your Bible.
Caesar Kalinowski:You'll see what the six are, right?
Caesar Kalinowski:They're just kind of verse by verse, except the last 13 has two pieces of it.
Caesar Kalinowski:And each step personalize what you're facing or needing or asking for or hoping for in that category of that part of the pattern.
Caesar Kalinowski:Our heavenly dad is waiting.
Caesar Kalinowski:He wants to hear it all and he waits to see you walk in trust and freedom.
Caesar Kalinowski:He's just, that's his desire.
Caesar Kalinowski:Walk in trust, walk in freedom.
Caesar Kalinowski:Beautiful man.
Caesar Kalinowski:I hope so.
Caesar Kalinowski:I love this.
Caesar Kalinowski:I really love this.
Caesar Kalinowski:I hope it's, I hope it's freeing for some people.
Caesar Kalinowski:And I just challenge you like to pray this pattern, but through the lens of what I've just given you.
Caesar Kalinowski:And watch how the weight just peels off and how everything starts to be way better news.
Caesar Kalinowski:Oh yeah, absolutely.
Caesar Kalinowski:How could
Heath Hollensbe:it not?
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