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8:13 Everybody Hates Hitler
Episode 13 • 4th April 2024 • Devil's Trap: A Supernatural Podcast • Don't Be A Dick Productions
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In this episode of the Devil's Trap podcast, Diana and Liz discuss season eight, episode 13 of Supernatural titled 'Everybody Hates Hitler.' They debate the best candy season, share their recent travels, and prepare for the upcoming solar eclipse. The main themes of the conversation include Easter candy, the Library of Congress, the solar eclipse, and the episode recap. The conversation is light-hearted and filled with humor. In this conversation, the hosts discuss the Supernatural episode 'Everybody Hates Hitler' and delve into the lore and history behind the Thule Society and the concept of golems. They explore the themes of Nazi occultism, the Aryan race, and the influence of Madame Blavatsky. The hosts also analyze the characters and their actions in the episode, highlighting the significance of the Golem and the role of the Men of Letters. Overall, they emphasize the importance of understanding the historical context and the horrors of the Nazi regime, while also critiquing the glamorization of Nazi magicians in popular culture.

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Supernatural, podcast, season eight, episode 13, candy, Easter, Library of Congress, solar eclipse, recap, Supernatural, episode, Everybody Hates Hitler, Thule Society, golems, Nazi occultism, Aryan race, Madame Blavatsky, Men of Letters, historical context, glamorization, Nazi magicians

Chapters

00:00

Introduction and Easter Candy Debate

02:10

Traveling and the Library of Congress

04:12

Preparing for the Solar Eclipse

09:41

Recapping 'Everybody Hates Hitler'

37:03

Uncovering the Thule Society and the Necromancers

44:48

The Library Break-In and the Dart Attack

53:05

The Thule Society and Nazi Occultism

01:01:06

Reactivating the Golem and Settling into the Men of Letters Life

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Jerk (:

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast. I'm Diana.

Bitch (:

and I'm Liz.

Jerk (:

And this week we're going to talk about season eight, episode 13. Everybody hates Hitler. Facts.

Bitch (:

set.

Bitch (:

You should. You should. What's up, Diana?

Jerk (:

I celebrated my birthday. Um, yeah, so now I've been having some fun times and eating lots of pastries. It's also what I argue is the best, um, candy season of the year. I stand by Easter has the best candy. I stand by this. They got the Cadbury eggs. You've got the Reese's eggs. You've got peeps and I'm a peep fanatic. We all know this.

Bitch (:

Ruff.

Blah. I know they're gross.

Jerk (:

And then you've got these, the Robin's eggs and the Multimouth book. I'm fucking sold. Easter candy is the best candy out of all the candies for the holidays. So the between, huh?

Bitch (:

Meh.

Bitch (:

Yeah, Halloween candy wins. Halloween candy is better. We all know it.

Jerk (:

Well, Halloween candy is just regular candy. It's just small and you just get lots of it. So it's not really special.

Bitch (:

It wasn't always like, it's like some of the candy is special. That's where, you know, you know, and you can get the peanut butter chocolate things, which is the only thing that matters. And you can get those in Halloween and on Easter time. So whatever.

Jerk (:

I guess.

Jerk (:

I guess I still think but I'm also a peeps fanatic and kind of a peeps purist. Will I eat other seasons of peeps? Yes, cuz I like peeps. Are they as good as traditional peeps? No, I want the fucking little birdie That's a little swirly guy. I like him the best

Bitch (:

I'm so scared of sugar. Ugh. There's no flavor.

Jerk (:

Like I tried to make the Rice Krispie treats out of them though and it was a fail. One of the recipes I found that did not come out good. Nobody wants a gummy Rice Krispie.

Bitch (:

Wap wap.

No.

Jerk (:

But yeah, so now I had a good time and I've had, um, lots of, lots of sweets and treats. And, uh, I guess that's it. That means good. It's not a complaint. It's just, yeah, that's what I got going on. How about you?

Bitch (:

It's exciting though.

Bitch (:

I just got back from traveling to the capital of the United States and I yelled at a building. That was fun. Mainly I think I was yelling at people inside the building, but you know. And then I went to the building next door and got to be a cool ass researcher at the Library of Congress, which makes me feel all badass and special that I have now.

elevated my status to the point where I am just in the rare reading books room of Library of Congress looking legitimately at stuff and have a reason to do that and that's pretty cool. Library of Congress is beautiful and I'll come up in this episode but it is it is a lovely place and it's a nice place to spend an afternoon. It's also really cool to go basically be backstage or like a rock star. It's like the VIP pass right like you walk past Albatura so they're like no

Jerk (:

That's cool.

Jerk (:

Nice.

Bitch (:

and you get your own special little card, anybody can get them. And frankly, tourists, like it's fucking annoying. I had to wait in line to get my fucking card. All of y'all think it's pretty funny. Like I'm gonna leave your congers and give a reading card. I'm like, some of us actually needed that reading fucking card to do shit. But there's just like, be a time for like fake ass reading cards. Like, do you actually not plan to use this? Or like, I just have a window where they can do that. But it was great. It was...

I was in the Houdini collection because Houdini collected a lot of things on spiritualism because he was like to disprove that ghosts were real and all that other fun stuff. So his library collection was awesome and it was donated to Library of Congress. So I spent a lot of time digging through that, looking for threads and ate a bunch of good food because DC does have good restaurants. That was really good. And spent some time. I fucked around a couple of museums.

The museums are full of children because it was spring break. So yeah, so that was a good week. But now it's here and we're preparing for the eclipse.

Jerk (:

It's a big deal to be just to be clear. If so, if you're not everybody, I mean, obviously.

Bitch (:

Yeah, I'm not sure. That's what I understand. Like if you're not in Texas in May, you may not be getting the warnings that we are.

Jerk (:

Oh my gosh. So yeah, I mean, and there's other parts of the country because it does cut across but near you and me both are on the path of totality, which is a big fucking deal to have a solar eclipse for four solid minutes in your hometown. And I didn't realize what a tourist event this is. Did you know that before this?

Bitch (:

I have a friend who's coming in from California for it, so yes.

Jerk (:

Oh, I know. But before this, did you know that it was like before your friend booked their trip, did you know that this was like a thing people like travel for? Because. I just didn't notice. I just didn't notice, I guess. States of emergency. Yeah.

Bitch (:

Well, yeah, because people traveled for the last eclipse and that wasn't even as a big of a deal as this. And so I don't know, we, but. That there are towns here that are declaring like national disasters, like, you know, like everyone's like, I did last night though, take a moment to be like there was a thread on next door and I was like, let's just grab some popcorn and see how racist this is going to get. Cause you know, people, cause it's next door. It doesn't matter what it talks about. It always just ends up somehow dissolving into our.

Jerk (:

I don't even know how that...

Bitch (:

It's just how Nextdoor works. It's just how it is. It just always dissolved in someone making it racist comment. And it did. So, I mean, somehow it got to me about border security. Thank you, Nextdoor. I know. That is the beauty of Nextdoor. Anything can dissolve into a ridiculous fight. So, but I am going to the Reinery. Yeah.

Jerk (:

Oh.

Jerk (:

Oh my gosh.

What?

Jerk (:

Well, yeah, there's people traveling. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. That's exciting for you. You're going to the Rhinery.

Bitch (:

Yeah, I'm going to the Reinerie, which is a winery that is there for the conservation of rhinos. I don't know. There's a rhinoceros there. Money is going to charity, which made me feel better because every place is charging like a dumb amount of money. And since I had someone coming in, like I felt like I had to do something. So this was like the most reasonable amount of money to for like a ridiculous thing. Like I feel like I'm getting a good return on investment. I just don't know how like

Jerk (:

It's stupid. Insane.

Jerk (:

There's wine involved.

Bitch (:

There's why involved. I just don't know how long it's going to take us to get there and back. I am terrified of getting to the hill country and coming back just because I know those roads. Yeah.

Jerk (:

You know, they're like closing schools. Like many school districts are shutting down. Others are just giving the kids glasses and telling them to watch, I don't know. I decided, I was like, it's just a process with me. Like I'm, maybe I'm an asshole. Well, I realized that my work, I'm like, that's a fucking Monday. We're working bitches. This is four minutes long. I'll buy you lunch and some glasses and we can go outside.

Bitch (:

Whatever, yeah.

Bitch (:

Capitalism doesn't stop for the eclipse.

Jerk (:

Also, like, we're like, most of us are like grownups. I'm like, what are you? Like, oh, they could take the day off if they want to. That's fine, I'm just not gonna close things down for it. Because the rest of the country that we're interacting with in our emails all day are probably not closed for an eclipse. That's what I'm saying.

Bitch (:

Yes, but also you can take a vacation day.

Bitch (:

No, that's silly.

Bitch (:

Yeah, well until the lizard people come down during the eclipse and devour the earth and then they won't be working

Jerk (:

That's true. Or or some y2k shit and we all fall apart. I don't know.

Bitch (:

Well, I'm like, what, like, how much of an asshole are you gonna feel like if you're working and, like, the world explodes? At least I'll be with rhinoceros.

Jerk (:

Oh man.

Jerk (:

Yeah. I told them to bring their families. I told them to bring their families. That's nice, then, right? So if the world explodes, they'll be with their loved ones at work.

Bitch (:

Anyway, so that's coming up. Yeah, yeah, I'm just really concerned. I'm just concerned about traffic because the places we're going are not meant for this many people and that's what everyone's concerned about. It's just like it's a flood.

Jerk (:

That is that's really what it is. It's not really they're worried that cell towers are going to get overwhelmed. They're worried about roads getting overwhelmed and just people getting like cars breaking down because of being stuck in traffic, that kind of shit. That's what the fear is.

Bitch (:

And it's legitimate fear. You know, like, I am legitimately fearing that I'm gonna be stuck in a Cybertruck for the rest of my life. I'm going in a Cybertruck. I'm just like, no, I don't wanna die on a douche mobile. So other than these.

Jerk (:

I forgot you're taking a cyber truck. That's right. That's amazing.

Jerk (:

So cool. Can't you like shoot an arrow at it? Isn't that a thing they've done? Like shoot stuff at it?

Can you do that?

Bitch (:

I mean, sure.

I don't think my friend will like it if I start shooting shit in a new cyber truck. But whatever, I'm sure he's got insurance. All right, so moving on, moving on. Just some other news. Walker season four is returning after the night before we dropped this. So that's Wednesday, April 3rd with a quiet. So that's coming back. Also, it's really tragic and sad news. Chance for Domo. He played Andre Anderson in the boys, the boys spinoff Gen B. He was also

Jerk (:

I mean, yeah.

Bitch (:

in Adventures of Sabrina, her really hot cousin. I don't know if it was the character, but Sabrina's really hot cousin. He was a bi guy who lived in the house. Anyways, unfortunately, he died in a motorcycle accident this week.

Jerk (:

Oh, yeah.

I saw that.

Bitch (:

Yeah, and the cast for season two was just about to start filming on Gen V. And so they have pushed that off indefinitely. I'm not sure what they're going to do with that show, but it's just tragic. He was just he was a really good actor. And, you know, I wouldn't objectify someone like me. It's just a good, very attractive. But, you know, he was just I very much enjoyed watching him. You know, this is a bummer. I was going to do for the show, but I'm all around.

And such, you know, as is Nazi magicians, Nazi magicians are just a bummer. And last night I hung out the phone with Diana. I was like, did you watch the episode yet? And she said, yes. Why? And I was like, cause I was about to tell you, I'm going to go watch. I had to go dive back into Nazi magicians, which she said I wouldn't be surprised if I hadn't seen the episode. Yeah.

Jerk (:

If I hadn't watched the show, I would have not been shocked by that.

Bitch (:

So this was season eight's episode 13 it first aired in February 6 2013 it was directed by Phil scripture and written by Ben Edlund So heavy hitters here for this one, which is the pretty is pretty you know, there's a big episode in terms of lore, but just a So and we're gonna dive right in our recap is just

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Jerk (:

Very many letters. Yeah. And I cannot pronounce the name of this city in Belarus, but that sounds right.

Bitch (:

uh, Vitsubetsk. And so this is really something I think is really important to know. This is a real town. And during World War II, when this is happening, Nazis were occupying this town, right? And this is one of the reasons that I'm going to start off telling you this and what you want you guys remember this when we get to the part about the fool. So this town used to have a pretty big large pop Jewish population.

Jerk (:

Alright.

Bitch (:

There used to be like, basically was like half the town, but Nazis came in and half of people either you know fled, half of them thankfully fled, but The other half are basically the Nazis ended up operating prison there and there's forced labor camps and everybody was murdered. So

n we got started this Belarus:

Jerk (:

Mm-mm.

Jerk (:

Well, especially when the other guys comment response to him immediately with something about getting the clap like Toronto to clap. So, yeah, it was gross. Not cool.

Bitch (:

Yeah. But then we get some satisfying moments of violence.

Jerk (:

We do one of them is trying to light a cigarette and then some large figure approaches him and throws him through the fucking guard check. Yeah, so yeah, and so there's like this fight at that place with some large person creature outside of the guard shack. But inside the building that they're guarding, and we've got

Bitch (:

Yeah!

Jerk (:

some like Nazi officer pouring like has a jar of blood. And then we got another one making notes from a ledger from some radio calls. That's about what's happening.

Bitch (:

Yep. Yeah, I didn't see it like lots of books, lots of Nazis and radio operator just yelling, it won't go down. It won't go down story of my next 16. And so

Jerk (:

And whatever is coming after them, they are all queued up to shoot the shit out of. Well, this officer, Nazi officer is doing a fucking blood ritual. And yeah.

Bitch (:

Yeah, he's doing some magic and the things like in there like one you can really tell like he's Nazi because he starts damning the sorcerers of Abraham and that's not some anti-semitic bullshit. I don't know what is so he lights something on fire and that ignites a cloaking flame and then the giant man comes in and he just apart Nazis.

Jerk (:

Yeah, it's a giant man. This is just a big man. A little Andre the giant ish, I would say.

Bitch (:

That's what I was kind of thinking. I was trying to think of the best way to compare him to. And I think very Andre the Giant. Like I just immediately want to hug him. Or the Rock. Like I also, yeah, there was times where I thought he was rockish. Like Dwayne Johnson-y.

Jerk (:

Because it's not like, yeah, because it's not like impossible human size. It's just large.

Jerk (:

Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. I went Andre because I think also just the angular face, which is associated with it with some of that size sometimes. But anyway, it was very, just a very, very large man who was not bothered by a bunch of bullets at all. And yeah. And so there we go. That's our intro scene.

Bitch (:

Hmm.

Bitch (:

And you know, he just goes inside and the commander yells at him to tell you, masters, it's not over. And then everything goes up in flames and a very cool effect. So we, this very epic opening to this, right? We're just like Nazis getting ripped apart. I can see that over and over again. And then just flames, flames.

Jerk (:

But in Lebanon, Kansas, in modern times, Sam and Dean have pulled up at this abandoned, what appears to be an abandoned factory with a door in the hill below it. And they figured out that no one's been here in 60 to 765 70 years. This is the location that the man of the men of letters gave them to go to. That's where they're

Bitch (:

Yes, it is a coordinates that match the key for the supernatural mother load. So we're about to see what is waiting for them in the supernatural natural super mattress, your supernatural mother.

Jerk (:

Yes.

Jerk (:

Superman. And as they discover when they go inside, it's the fucking Batcave.

Bitch (:

And it's very Deco. Like, I know this was supposed to be 40s, but it's so gorgeous. Everything is just gorgeous. And there's a ham radio and a telegraph and a switchboard.

Jerk (:

So many books. So many books. And apparently there's a shower and some left behind robes and slippers, too, because Dean goes and immediately takes a shower.

Bitch (:

Yeah, and so there's also a generator that works. And Dean is just really impressed with the water pressure because it's important. And Sam just wants to acknowledge that this place is weird and we're just, Dean's just like, we're not going to talk about the fact that we don't know how this power started. We're just going to pretend. This is all just awesome stuff.

Jerk (:

Yes.

Jerk (:

Yeah. And he's like, look, but he also doesn't want Sam to get all like hoity toity, like the men of letters, like they knew something that the hunters don't. But Sam's like, no, I think that they do. They might. This could help us. And this could help all of society catch a break in all the shit that we're dealing with all the time. So I'm going to research the fuck out of everything and see what they knew.

Bitch (:

But Dean's not wrong because Sam points out, you know, he's like, you know, they're a secret society and Dean volleys back with that means they made stuff up. And that's accurate. Like the more time I spend researching secrets, you know, I have yet to find a secret society that just didn't make shit up. And Dean also says that they were fezzes and sashes and swung scimitars around like it was a bad thing. Like, how is that a bad thing? That's what I want to do. If I could have a fez and a sash on right now and be swinging a sword, damn, I'll know I'd be doing it.

as an American actor from the:

Jerk (:

Over in Wilkes Bar, Pennsylvania, we have an older Jewish gentleman enter the library and the librarian obviously knows him and says he's late. And the man's talking about how he had to change bus lines because he was being followed. It just sounds super.

And you can tell the librarian does not really believe him. And, but he, you know, gets the manuscript that the Jewish men have asked for. It's from an estate and they.

Bitch (:

So it's from an estate, but it's more importantly, it's from an uncataloged collection. And so this is like, like a researcher's dream. It's just a box full of crap that you don't know what's in there. Like you think it could be something and now you're going through and finding it. And so he finds a ledger and then he says a word that I'm not going to repeat because I would just mess it up and it's Yiddish for dear God.

Jerk (:

And it is the ledger, the, this burned up book from Belarus, where we saw the beginning, the beginning scene is this ledger that was being written in at the time. And so he's trying to explain to the librarian that this is like super special and has to be protected. And the librarians like, yeah, sure. Of course it will be because it's safe here in the fucking library. Dum dum. It's basically the library is a librarian's attitude. So

Bitch (:

Yeah, he's a dick, but also a rock.

Jerk (:

But anyway, so the old man gets a little sassy with them, which is good, I appreciate it. When he basically tells him that, you know, he needs to do something about the bug up his ass, but, you know, either way. So the old man leaves the library and goes straight to the campus pub and uses the payphone. And somebody's watching him. Yeah.

Bitch (:

with a credit card is a payphone that you can insert a credit card in. And I just like, that's crazy. I can't even imagine like, Oh my God, how much I could steal off of that. Anyway, so someone's watching him leave his message at the tone.

Jerk (:

I remember that era briefly. Briefly.

Jerk (:

And he leaves him a message about how there's no time left. He found it and gives like a code number to find this and hangs up. You know, shit's going weird because he leaves his notes unattended.

At this point, he turns away from the payphone and walks towards the window and is yelling out, yelling toward the window from indoors. Nobody else can hear him, but towards the person following him about like, why are you so shy? Come on in. And people in the pub are looking at him. And then he's yelling about a Nazi piece of rubbish. And then he starts smoking. They don't mean he lit up a cigarette in the bar, like smoke from under his collar.

Bitch (:

Mm-hmm.

Jerk (:

Like his body is physically smoking and then he catches fire and he's screaming about Nazi pigs.

Bitch (:

I hate sport.

Yeah, and if you don't like if I can go out yelling you Nazi pig, like I think my life will probably be in a good position. So two weeks later at the bunker. So I just like how they kind of skip through this. Right. So we have this nice like, this is what happened in those two weeks. Dean went out to go see Kevin. He's fine. Garth is fine. And Sam is just working. Yeah, Garth says hi. And Sam is just working at these tables are so fucking awesome. And they are like this. This room really does remind me that reading room.

Jerk (:

Yep, guys says hi.

Bitch (:

Congress, but just like the massive tables that you can spread out and work on. And I'm so jealous of all of this space. And so this is like, this is what I need for my new house. Like, do I just need to build a bunker? Yeah. This is a big research room. Anyway, so Sam, yeah.

Jerk (:

Yeah. Well, Sam has.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Jerk (:

or just a big research table.

Yeah, your own library, your own library. So but Sam has discovered something about the Judah initiative.

Bitch (:

Well, because he has been creating a men of letters database and this is like, this is the Sam I love. This is hot Sam. Sam is getting all geeky and he's making databases like where he's crops referencing the names of the people, the names of the things they did, like going through all of her stuff. It's so fucking hot. So now Sam's found.

Jerk (:

the Judah initiative in World War II, which was made up of rabbis. And they were hardcore saboteurs. It's fun. And he figured out that one of them is still alive. And so Rabbi Bass or was he was still alive until two weeks ago. Rabbi Bass, he was a college campus and spontaneously combusted. So now we know that our gentleman from the previous scene was part of the Men of Letters.

Bitch (:

or was.

Bitch (:

No, he was not part of the Menna Letters. He was part of the Judah Initiative. Yeah, they were just like in society, like in, they were like dotted line to each other. They weren't like a part of each other.

Jerk (:

Well, he was part of the Judah initiative, which worked with the men of letters.

Jerk (:

Right, they work together, but they weren't the same. Kind of. So, anyway, so Dean is...

Bitch (:

Yeah.

Bitch (:

It would be like the CIA and MI6, but with secret societies.

Jerk (:

Well, Dean's drinking about it because he's annoyed about them having a case when he just got back from visiting Kevin.

Bitch (:

But he's nesting, right? So he just like has a place that he just got back to and he's sad about leaving it. That is adorable.

Jerk (:

So Dean's nesting and Sam's making databases and Liz is swooting.

Bitch (:

I love Minute Letters, I love the bunker, this is my happy place.

Jerk (:

Me too. All right, so they go to Pennsylvania. Sam goes to the library, duh, says he's a research assistant at Rabbi Bass and needs to see... A spider under his jacket.

Bitch (:

And he is so nerded up. I'm just fending myself again. He's got like a little like, he's got a little sweater vest on, like over with a little like, yeah, he's very nerdy and I love it.

Jerk (:

Well, he wants to see whatever the rabbi saw the day that he died. So in the meantime, Dean's going to go to the pub and talk to a couple of the girls there were there at the pub that night. And they're like, yeah, he was a nice old cook. And basically said he talked a lot to himself or to anyone that would listen about a secret war with special Nazis, necromancers, Nazi necromancers. So.

Bitch (:

the Necromancers.

Jerk (:

And while this is all going down, some guy with a umbrella in his drink is making eyes at Dean. So here we go. Back at the. Oh, go ahead.

Bitch (:

Yep. Yeah, back at the library, Sam opens up the tote that this manuscript was in, and also that manuscript would not have been that tote. But anyways, and instead of the manuscript, there is the explorer's guide to North American birds, which looks really pretty, but it's bizarre. Not a lecture.

Jerk (:

So Dean has to go confront this guy that's making eyes at him and flashes FBI badge, his agent bullet.

Bitch (:

Yeah, so you know, so Agent Bowlin, obviously that's Mark Bowlin, who was T. Brex. And last week I learned that Mark Bowlin once got up to 300 pounds before he died.

Yeah, I didn't have it. T-Rex was fat. Who knew?

Jerk (:

Well, this guy's like, oh, I thought you were a headhunter. I was waiting for you to get out of your meeting. And then Dean's like, no, I've seen you a bunch today. And then the guy's like, no, I'm sorry, I lied. I thought we had a magic eye moment or eye magic moment. And Dean gets very flustered when he thinks he's being hit on. Like very, very flustered. And so Dean has to like stumble away. Luckily Sam calls to distract him.

Bitch (:

Yeah, but as he's stumbling away, he starts calling him, I'm just doing a federal thing, citizen. And like calling people citizen. I'm gonna call you citizen from now on.

Jerk (:

So Sam's like, hey, this research doesn't make sense, but I, FYI, I'm gonna use a code word that to tell you that somebody's following me.

Bitch (:

It's something stuck to my shoe and that's an old gum shoe thing. Huh? Gum shoe. Dun dun dun. But it's an old thing that you would say when somebody was following you. Like I got some, I got gum stuck to my shoe. Um, also Dean, yeah. You didn't know what?

Jerk (:

Ahhhh

Jerk (:

I didn't know that.

Bitch (:

So they die in a lurch. And Dane is also, I feel like, overplaying his masculinity by commenting how hot the co-eds were when he's talking to Sam. And to be fair in the transcript, they are named attractive young women one and two. So I guess they had to be attractive, but I also feel like there was just like, yeah, super, super hot women. Oh dude, my penis is large. So they agreed to meet up at the visitor's parking lot.

Jerk (:

There you go.

Jerk (:

Yep.

Jerk (:

to set a trap for whoever's following Sam. So Baby's parked and Dean fumbled or Sam walks up fumbling keys by himself. And you can tell someone's watching from the bushes and Dean sneaks up on the spy and it is our giant from Belarus.

Bitch (:

He is, he's very, very big. And he gets thrown across the parking lot. And then the man, is that a baby? I thought it was through another car. I don't know. So he gets thrown across the parking lot. The man comes for Sam. And then when Sam cuts him, it's weird. It's like.

Jerk (:

He does and breaks baby's window.

I thought it was. Oh.

Jerk (:

Well, Sam gets into trunk. So we do get a brief moment of trunks contribution here. Yes. And then and then he cuts into his arm with a knife. He pulled out and it's like clay.

Bitch (:

Hehehe

Bitch (:

Thanks, Trunk.

Bitch (:

Yeah, but you know, it's also like I can see this like you ever have those dreams where like you punch somebody and nothing happens Like can you imagine this with a knife? You like what's it? And then someone says stop

Jerk (:

Yes.

That'd be very distressing.

Jerk (:

as he's choking Sam out. And who is it? But our guy from the bar that was making eyes at Dean.

Bitch (:

Bearded guy. So I call him at this point. I call him bearded guy because I couldn't remember his name and then he tells him that He's a golem and he's my golem Did you know what a golem was do I have to explain that you know, okay I think I figured that's what I didn't like I figured everyone knew about it. So I hope

Jerk (:

Hmm.

Jerk (:

Yeah. So they go to this rental property.

Bitch (:

Yeah, I also I'm looking at like, I like, I feel like it's like an apartment, like the college houses, you know, like near campus, like made for students, they're just gonna fuck it up. I don't know.

Jerk (:

It looks like a house, but it's got rental shit everywhere and they're renting. I don't know. Kind of.

Jerk (:

I don't know. It's a rental house ish. Whatever that

Bitch (:

Maybe like Rabbi Jacob, Rabbi Isaac had rented it.

Jerk (:

Well, maybe well, I don't know. This is where Aaron is staying with his golem. And he shares that Rabbi Bass was his grandfather. And he started following Sam and Dean when they started investigating the rabbi's death. So they did not have a moment. He was definitely trailing Dean.

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Yeah.

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And no, they didn't have a moment. 14.

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But that's basically it. He's really like mocking of this golem. Like he's just kind of like he's kind of like likes him, but just kind of talk shit. And he's like, yeah, he's shaped from clay and brought to life by the rabbi to protect the Jewish people. And he was left to Aaron by his grandfather. So.

Sam mentions the Judah initiative though, and Golem starts talking, which shocks everybody, because apparently they're not normally talking.

Bitch (:

All right.

Bitch (:

No, I talk like this. He hasn't talked to you. Yeah, so the Golem isn't happy that they know about the men of Judah, but they but he backs off and they drop men of letters, right? And then we see like super blonde dude with the glasses talking to him outside.

Jerk (:

Well, they imply that they don't always.

Jerk (:

And that's the one that stalked the rabbi. So that's not good. And he's like, look, Dane's like, look, Erin, I know this is all new to you, but our whole family is into supernatural stuff. So surprise, surprise. Catch up.

Bitch (:

Yeah, and they kind of bond over this, right? They bond over their families coming from this thing. And Aaron tells him that his family thought his grandpa was nuts until he died. And a big box showed up. And when it opened it up, it was the Golem and he was naked. So how big was that box? Who delivered it? Where are their stairs? How did, what was as a crate lay?

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Did you have to have a crowbar?

Bitch (:

Like yeah, was like how like was it long? Was he folded up inside? Like how did you get him in there? How did you lift this? Like he's gotta weigh like 9 000 pounds. Like what the fuck? And dead weight of him? Like no.

Jerk (:

Yeah. Oh, God. So and apparently this quote, big naked potato faced lunatic woke up and went crazy.

Bitch (:

Guess he was in a box and he was stuffed.

Jerk (:

And he trashed his entertainment, Aaron's entertainment center. Oh, but the Golem is not entertained by anything Aaron has to say. He's just talking about how, like, undefout he is and all this kind of stuff. And I really like Aaron's immediate comment was everybody loves bacon. So.

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because he wasn't keeping kosher. And the Goan keeps saying something in Hebrew. That means take charge.

Jerk (:

Yes, I keep saying take charge. And Aaron just doesn't know what the fuck it means. It doesn't really listed like I didn't really listen to his grandfather because nobody believed him. And he's just not prepared. And it was just so insulated from everything, his all the stories his grandfather told. And now he's then apparently his grandfather was always talking about trying to track down the Fool Society, Thule, which were the Nazi necromancers. And so Sam and Dean have to explain what a necromancer is. And

The Golems like, yeah, that's who murdered grandfather and we need to find him. So he's gone, smashes some furniture.

Bitch (:

Well, and he also, yeah, and he also says, this is important for later, that Aaron says that all he knows about the Thule were that they were this twisted secret fraternity held into world domination that sponsored the early days of the Nazi party. So that's an important fact to keep in mind what Aaron thinks the Thule Society were.

Jerk (:

So there, Sam's like, hey, wait, that number you have written down from your grandfather, though, by the way, is a library call number.

Bitch (:

Library of Congress call number, there's a difference, because otherwise it could have been a Dewey call number. And Sam knows the difference, because he's a hot nerd. So the colleges, universities typically use Library of Congress as a reference system, as opposed to undergrad, like a high school or a elementary school would use a Dewey decimal system. But Sam is a hot nerd, and of course, he knows the Library of Congress call symbol, and even knows this is sciences and probably bluebirds. He knows the classification system's that hot, because he's hot nerd Sam.

Jerk (:

this.

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Hot nerds here.

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Even with that hair.

Bitch (:

His hair is, he's grown into his hair. Like you can see I'm no longer calming it. It's fine now. He's grown into it. It just took a while. It was awkward. Okay. I'm okay with this. I'm okay with nerd hair. Nerd hair is fine.

Jerk (:

Okay, I just had to check. I just had to check.

Jerk (:

Got it. So they go break into the library. Aaron comments on the fact that they broke into the fucking library.

Bitch (:

Why is there no alarm?

Jerk (:

Very odd.

Bitch (:

That's the fucking library. Like, I'm sorry. There should at least be an alarm. Anyways.

Jerk (:

Well, Sam is going to run up the stairs and go find the book while Dean, Aaron and the Golem wait for him. Sam finds it quite quickly because he knows what he's doing. And then swiftly gets hit with a dart in the neck. So this is not good. Not good. But it's not just like a sleepy time dart. It's a oh, you're going to die dart because it's like turning him like bruisey, like skin dying bad. Yeah. And so he like.

Bitch (:

He knows his call numbers.

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Choo!

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Something bad is happening.

Jerk (:

It manages to shove a cart into our blonde Nazi dude, blonde fool guy and who demands the ledger and runs down the stairs and as he's collapsing in front of his friends, he goes, help necromancer. And then Aaron's like, oh, shit. And then Aaron gets darted to. So Dean luckily tells Gollum, hey, they're both going to die unless you go catch whoever did that.

So the golems like fucking like after him, which is cool to have a golem to go do that. But he gets and he gets darted, but it doesn't matter. And so he gets the blunt. And it's just really I found this hilarious. He reached through the shelves and grabs him and is just like smashing his head through the shelves. Most deeply. I'm just I'm sure satisfying. And then drags him down the stairs to Dean, where he says, look, hmm.

Bitch (:

It is, it is.

Bitch (:

That was entertaining, yeah.

Bitch (:

Yeah, okay. Yeah So he drives down the stairs where he does use his blast dying words Oh, they're the fool and he snaps his neck, right? And like but why like why did you take him downstairs? Like why would you just kill him up there? Why'd you wait?

Jerk (:

Go ahead.

Jerk (:

I don't understand either. Dean just said you need, unless you're gonna, they're both gonna die unless we catch whoever cast the spell. So here's my question. Dean never clarified that we have to kill the person. What if they needed information from him? And they, and Gollum didn't know this. I don't know.

Bitch (:

No. Yeah, I know.

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Learn.

Jerk (:

And did we know that blondie Pat like fucking cast the spell or did he just fucking shoot the dark? I don't know. This is a very like loose piece bit of the story line.

Bitch (:

Yeah, you looked out here, Dean. You looked out. So they basically like we know like, not just this Nazi necromancer is dead, we later learned his name was Torvald, but he did. And yeah, and so they wake up like Aaron wakes up in the back of baby and he just misses Sam and Dean Dicking. And I know he's really sad because like at this point, like the grave is already done. And they're just there with the body like he was the best part.

Jerk (:

for sure. So.

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Okay, one down, one down.

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Yeah. And the golem tells him he's like, Hey, those men of letters saved your life. So but as. As they're burying this, this necromancer before they, you know, put gas on it and set it on fire, they're discussing how to, oh, no, Mr. Bill over there is the comment that Dean makes. And basically, they're saying, like, if shit goes awry, how do we how do we dispatch this golem?

That's what they're discussing. Yeah. And Aaron is watching. Aaron doesn't hear their conversation, but he definitely sees them pour gasoline on and burn this body and calls them psychopaths.

Bitch (:

It's a good question, right?

Bitch (:

Yep, he's slightly freaked by them burning the corpse.

Jerk (:

Yeah. So back at this run to the Aaron's house, whatever. Sam is using Internet translators on the ledger in this log book from the Belarus compound. And Aaron's like. Yeah.

Bitch (:

It's disturbing. What it says is May 12, 1944, the commandant has been informed that the group one has responded favorably to the latest trials. That's never a good thing to see in a ledger.

Jerk (:

Yeah. So. So he air Aaron's like this is leisure is one that my grandfather was convinced was lost in a fire. And Sam's like, yeah, it's describing horrible magical experience experiments that were performed. And the Golem knows about him too. He's like, yeah, it's more horrible than words. Okay, then. So he realized Sam realizes that the Golem was the one that was there. And he's like,

Bitch (:

Yeah, he was created in the ghettos of, it's Steve Buxley, Howard Geisler, in Belarus. He was in the ghettos of there to burn the place down. So that is where he was created. He was created by the rabbi is there. And so Sam finally is like, what the fuck does this take charge mean?

Jerk (:

Yeah. And he's like, Oh, well, uh, Aaron needs to consult the pages and ends up air.

Bitch (:

Why can't Erin consult the patches, dang it?

Jerk (:

because the pages were like a really nice thin vellum and he definitely rolled weed and didn't smoke them.

Bitch (:

saying that I have never seen heard or maybe on some like television shows saw people in a hotel room that use a vellum of like you know the bibles that were like in the hotel room drawers to roll things I mean but that because that vellum is I mean I can see it yeah the vellum is nice but um you know

Jerk (:

Here's my one comment I would say, and this is not as a disparaging comment against the Bible. But I feel like you know there's another fucking Bible, but there might not be another guide to Golems that was a gift from your grandfather. I'm just saying that's.

Bitch (:

Yeah, you know, this is like...

Bitch (:

Yeah, no, like, that's probably why the Bibles are famous, no saying whatever, but allegedly. But this, come on, come on, man, like, you can clearly tell this is really old, like, it's written in Hebrew, like, it's, this looks like some old shit, come on, like.

Jerk (:

Even if your grandpa, even if you think your grandpa crazy, it was special to him, like, ugh.

Bitch (:

Yeah, like I'm not gonna burn my grandfather's prayer book. Like, it's just not something you do. And also it just looks like a rare book, you fucktard. Like, how stupid were you?

Jerk (:

Right. There's a line that you just don't cr-

Jerk (:

So finally, he and pissed that whenever he's judging him for this and really just wants to go home to tell him what to do. And the golem doesn't like that. He's like, it's not my job to teach the teacher and it's not my place. And he walks away. So there we go. We find out Sam's like, yeah, by the way, the fool were murdering Jews and gypsies and then trying to magically reanimate them to as practice so they could later magically reanimate their own people.

Bitch (:

Yes, fucked up. So fucked up. And in the last page is a roster of all the reanimated duel, and they learn that they can be killed with a headshot, but the body has to be burned within 12 hours, or it will reanimate again. Those Nazi bastards.

Jerk (:

Yeah. Anyways, so we've got a black car, black town car. Yeah. And this guy has this fancy ring with a symbol on it. And this is our commandant, is what they were calling him, the Nazi officer from Belarus is there now. And he is annoyed that their blonde guy is dead.

Bitch (:

A black car pulls up outside.

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Yeah, it's a sword and four crosses. Yeah.

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But knows, but can tell through magic-y shit that he's like tasting in the air that it was not by a man because I guess he talked to the blonde guy's ghost. I don't know.

That's basically what he says. He talks to the blonde guy's ghost, but it was forced to, the ghost was forced to depart. Was forced to depart. But he finds the residue of dirt in the library shelves and knows that it's clay. So now he knows that it's a golem.

Bitch (:

Use an incrementor.

Jerk (:

Hmm. So Dean decides to make a call to Garth. And while there while him and Sam are researching golems, because now they're trying to figure out how the fuck they dispatch this golem if they need to. And basically, Garth doesn't know anything about it. And no one in Garth's circle has ever even heard of the fool. Just not great. But

Bitch (:

Yeah, that's, that's not smart. Okay. So yeah, so they don't know what they're doing. And then Aaron comes in and basically questions their right to end and control his golem, which is fair. Like, who the fuck do you think you are, Mr. Winchester? Like, this isn't your shit. This is my responsibility.

Jerk (:

Yeah.

Yeah.

Jerk (:

And as they're arguing about that, the front door breaks in. And it's fucking Nazis. We've got three very strong armed Nazis. And you're in our good old commandant dude is there too. And Sam Dean and Aaron are all pinned down with guns. The golem enters and is ready to smash. But our commandant guy tells him enough and he stops and.

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and it's the Nazis.

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No.

Jerk (:

Why does he stop? It's very sad.

Bitch (:

It's very sad and like when he like becomes like unanimated, I guess it's a word like he just becomes so sad to me. Like this I just yeah, like I just want to hug him like and like come back.

Jerk (:

Deactivated?

Jerk (:

Yeah. So they and it was alluded to a little earlier. I'm sorry, we skipped we kind of jumped past a couple of ways that you take control of a golem are either writing or wiping off a word from their head or through a scroll in their mouth. And. Yes. He spits out a scroll.

Bitch (:

And those are all traditional. And so we see this happen. So when he says a second time, yeah, and it is a pretty cool scroll. I don't know why it's pretty cool.

Jerk (:

So, Gollum spits up a scroll, but he spits it into the hand of our fucking Nazi commandant. And... Anyway, so...

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And we learned that Aaron was supposed to write his name on the scroll. And he did not know that. And then he gets bitch slapped by the commander.

Jerk (:

Right.

Jerk (:

Yeah, I don't like it. So in the meantime, Dean keeps eye on opportunities to grab a pistol or whatever and just doesn't really get an ability or an opening to do so. Sam is telling the Nazi to screw himself when they want to find the ledger.

Bitch (:

You Nazi bastards. I appreciate the lines of, how about you screw yourself, you Nazi bastards. Then Dean calls him a Nazi necromancer dicks. Appreciate that.

Jerk (:

Yeah, yeah, Nazi necromancer dicks. And anyways, so Sam actually tries to kind of distract them by like asking questions and also just shit talking. And while he's doing that, unfortunately, one of the henchmen find the fucking ledger and.

Bitch (:

But also, when Sam is doing this, he does figure out that the commander, unlike the other Thule, he's not undead. He's immortal. So that's a difference he has between the other ones.

Jerk (:

Yeah, it's different.

Yeah. And Dean's like talking shit about the blonde Nazi they killed. He's just doing they're just shit talking. It's kind of kind of sweet. And anyways, he's he the commentator is very happy for finding this fucking ledger. And he's just like, I'm just going to tell a joke. Jew, two Gentiles and a golem walk into the bar. It doesn't end with them coming out.

But as this is happening, Aaron grows some balls and picks up a big old piece of wood and wax the fuck out of the commandant in the head like a fucking baseball. It's pretty, pretty impressive. Pretty impressive.

Bitch (:

Mm-hmm. And Sam has finally learned to make headshots. Finally in season eight. He's gotten good with his gun finally.

Jerk (:

us.

Yeah, because this allows just enough opening for salmon to each get guns and they both shoot this coming guy in the head at the same time. And then another, you know, and what someone's one of one of the Nazi thugs tries to take Aaron as a hostage, but it doesn't really work either way.

Bitch (:

Okay, yeah, so everyone but the commander is dead, right? And the commander yells, you can kill me, but you can never kill all the fool. And yes, you can, and we're gonna talk about that because it's time for lore.

Jerk (:

Mm-hmm.

Jerk (:

Yay!

Bitch (:

Alright, so yes, you could kill all the fool, or you could just let them fade into nothingness. Why? Because they were fucking boring, and maybe that is how it should be. Nazis shouldn't get to have cool stuff because they are fucking Nazis. So in researching this, I was, one was like, yeah, Nazi magicians, but of course I was disappointed because things aren't real as much as you want them to be. And

hat, but definitely like late:

Having secret lodges in societies were all the rage because life was really boring and people like to dress up in ropes Enchant things right and There are if you go through the books about this stuff is all about this order and this order and there was this rudolph And there was this carl and this were blah and they were in this thing and they were They're pretty much like they're all fucking racist um in the fact that a lot of the lodges are coming down from madame blavatsky's theory of the

If you don't know, Madame Blavatsky was a grifter who basically is responsible for most of the...

magical nonsense that exists today. One of her things was about like, there are these races that humans were descended from, right? And depending on which outlook you're looking at, it's like four to eight races. But this is where that theory of Aryan race tends to come from. And a lot of them say like, even like they go, because Blavatsky and Theosophus are really into

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being that, you know, Eastern mysticism and stuff just seems like, you know, the cool things. But in order to have this theory that the Aryan race was superior, how can you have this Eastern thing? So to make that logic work, they would say then that the Eastern people were descended from the Aryans, right? So, but basically this all the main like racial theory is, is that there is like specific racism. This is why the Aryan race was superior, right? They, that's where the secret magic comes from. And

of all the lodges that kind of went through things. The main one that precedes the Thule Society was called, oh boy, here we go. We're going to the German, Germanenorden. That sounds good, right? Germanenorden?

Jerk (:

Cool.

Bitch (:

I guess I don't want to say it like I'm a Swedish chef. So that was a quote unquote secret, anti-Semitic ethnic national based sect who based their rituals on Freemasonry because nobody can think of their own things. So it was kind of a cross between the Masonic rights and other hermetic things. So everyone's just kind of pulling from what they want.

Jerk (:

I did say a little bit, but that's okay.

Bitch (:

Also, at the same time, there is this thing going on in Germany. It's happening in a lot of other countries, but in Germany is called Volkisch. And it's this idea of basically. I don't know about this. Like folk, the folklore of Germany, and it's creating this mythology of the German land and German people in order to create a national identity that can bind people together.

Right. So going back and being like Hans Christian Anderson folk tales and all these things, but they kind of went some things were going back more towards Odin worlds, like kind of towards the Norse things. So you read a lot of things about the tool society stealing things from the Vikings as well.

Jerk (:

Okay.

Bitch (:

So, but those are just kind of important things that were happening at the time that influenced what these cults were made out of, right? And so the Grimond and Ordon, they had an application, and in their form they requested details about the color of the applicant's hair, eyes and skin. The ideal coloration was blonde to dark hair, blue to light brown, eyes and pale skin. They also had further details regarding the particular matters of their parents and grandparents, and if you were married, of your spouse as well.

ony of the Berlin province in:

s was kind of around like the:

Jerk (:

Yeah, you said phrenologist and I was like, no way.

Bitch (:

They found something that said what their novice initiation ritual was. And so I just want to tell you this so you could understand how stupid these people are. So while the novices awaited in a joining room, the brothers assembled in the ceremonial room of the lodge.

The master took his place at the front of the room beneath the baladkin, flanked on either side by two knights wearing white robes and helmets adorned with horns and leading on their swords.

So we got two dudes in white robes, but on top of the white robes is a helmet and there's horns and they got that right. In front of these sat the treasure and secretary wearing white masonic sashes. So we got Dean's sashes. While the herald took up his position in the center of the room. At the back of the room in the grove of the grail stood the bard in a white gown.

Jerk (:

Of course.

Bitch (:

Before him, the master of ceremonies in a blue gown, while the other Lodge brothers stood in a semi-circle around him as far as the tables of the treasurer and secretary. Behind the move of the grail was a music room where a harmonium and piano were accompanied by a small choir of forest elves.

The ceremony began with soft harmonium music while the brothers sang the pilgrim's chorus from Wagner's Tannhauser. The ritual commenced in scandalite while with brothers making the swine of the swine, the sign of the swastika and the master reciprocating. Then the blindfolded novices clad in pilgrimage mantles were ushered by the master's ceremonies into the room.

Here the master told them of the order's aereo-Germanic and aristocratic philosophy before the bard lit the sacred flame in the grove and the novices were divested of their mantles and blindfolds. At this point the master seized Wotan's spear and held it before him while the two knights crossed their swords upon it. A series of calls and responses accompanied by probably like I'm a Nazi or you're Nazi well they didn't have a Nazi yet but

You know, Ivar Aces, whatever. So the consecration followed with cries from the forest elves as the new brothers were led into the grove of the grail around the barred sacred flame. I'm sorry, you've got fucking forest elves.

. So, all right, so that's in:

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of his contributed back to this era. All right, at the same time, a man named Rudolf von Seppotendorf, and that's not his real name. He wasn't a Baron. He gets adopted to the thing, but that's just what ends up going by. So he becomes a member of the GmbH and Orden, and he's the Berlin Chief.

Jerk (:

Okay. Interesting.

Bitch (:

Hermann Poll. And Hermann Poll is like, oh, hey, I saw in these letters in your advertisements, you had all these runes. And Poll tells him, we don't know what these means because of all the racial contamination, the areas of lost knowledge. So once we clean this up, we'll be able to understand them. So it's another one of these justifications for purifying of a race being that we can understand magic if we get rid of these parts of our, yeah, it's stupid.

In:

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Hmm.

Bitch (:

The rooms are decorated with the Thule emblem, showing a long dagger superimposed on a shining Swastika sunwheel. And male members of the Thule society were called brothers and they sported a bronze pin of a Swastika and a shield cross by two spears. So, okay, Swastika on a shield crossed by two spears. And then the sisters just had a plain Swastika gold.

Jerk (:

Hmph.

Bitch (:

1919, Sebbottendorf outlined the roles organizations. Like he's basically said, we want to have two campaigns for this, for this organization. So one of them, this is our inner campaign, and that's for Germany spiritual growth. And the outer one, which is really, really care for, which was overthrowing the people state of Bavaria. So Soviet Union post-World War I has come into Bavaria. They have, there's Bavaria.

Eisner and the Bavarians have taken over this part of that. So they want to throw them out. So basically they're having all of this occult stuff be sort of the cover for all their political stuff they're trying to do, right? So like we're just a magical secret society, but also we're overthrowing governments. So the inner campaigns topics, so the ones that were for like the spiritual growth, those would be things like Nordic culture.

Jerk (:

Right.

Bitch (:

the esoteric implications of heraldry and the racial significance of genealogy, proposals to replace Germany's laws with the imagined laws of ancient northern Europe. Like they just imagine these laws that like

arian Revolution and in April:

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One of them was their founder, one of the founders Walter Nowhouse, but also a bunch of aristocrats were part of this group. There was a countess, there was a prince. The order ends up blaming Sabatendorf for losing their membership and he didn't attend any more meetings until 1919. And so during this time, there are various members of the Deutsche Arbeite Partei, which is DAP.

which would later become the Nazi Party. Hitler was a part of the DAP and there was members of the DAP, DAF, whatever, that were part of the SUL. Hitler was never part of the SUL. That gets brought up, like people say that, but that's not really true. And there were members of the Nazi parties that were part of the SUL, but not all members of the SUL were members of the Nazi Party, if that makes sense. So.

Jerk (:

Right. Interesting.

Bitch (:

So basically, the society falls in decline and is dissolved right about 1924. The 1933, so Battendorf wants to revive them. At this point, the Nazi party has taken over, the National Socialist Party has taken over in Germany and he tries to revive the full society in Munich. He publishes a book called Bevor Hitler Calm before Hitler came.

And he dedicates it to the seven Thule members who were killed. And he basically says in this that the Thule society was the most important precursor to national socialism. And he's like, we're the reason that there are Nazis. And Hitler and his friends are like, no, you're not. But so even though like people were like the Nazi socialists at the time are like, this is not, this did not influence us. And there were other occult things that go into this.

This was exaggerated by Sabatendorf in order to raise, try and basically get the Fool Society back, right, and try to get his like status placed back in. But even though it was made up, a lot of early writers when they were trying to bridge this idea between the Nazis and the occult used that as reasoning for why

Jerk (:

Right.

Bitch (:

Hitler was an occult magician and why they were Nazi magicians. And, but it wasn't true. A lot of it was made up. However, it's not to say like there wasn't like any sort of esoteric influence on the Nazi socialists. Obviously the swastika comes from that, but they end up like banning all Masonic lodges and they try and, you know, distance themselves from that. But I think there's a lot of. One, I mean, the idea like it's.

Nazis are the things we're allowed to hate, and that's really great, right? But Nazi magicians just became cool in comic books for some reason. Like, I think it also related to the lost art probably has a lot to do with it. There's a lot of pop culture reasons for this. And I think there's, and I've seen this theory before too, that if we can impose sort of like the devil made me do it type of things, right? If we can impose like, you know, occultism and magic onto the ideas of

Jerk (:

Hmm.

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Yeah.

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something so tragic and so awful, like it made like, I don't say like, make there be a reason for it, but somehow like that makes it more sensical for some people, right? But at the same time, I also think it kind of makes them seem cooler. And I don't want Nazis to seem cool. I want Nazis to seem like

Jerk (:

Yeah, I don't think but most people don't think of things like that. That's cool. Yeah.

Bitch (:

I know, but I don't want to glorify them at all, right? I want them to be boring fucking nasty people. What they did like in this actual town, this is why I made that point earlier. Like what they did in this town is far more horrific than if they'd actually been Nazi necromancers, right? Like the reality of the situation of what happened in Belarus, I think like the tens of thousands of people who were murdered in the ghettos of that place is...

Jerk (:

Right.

Bitch (:

way more terrifying than the idea that some Nazi tried to raise the dead. Right? Like that's what's horrifying about it. And I think like, it's like, it just made me sad. Like there's no cool research in this. It was just me being like, God, you're a bunch of horrible, stupid fucking people who were bored, wanting to make names to yourselves, wanting to push the political regime. You didn't even do it.

Jerk (:

wanted to put other people down and just picked a group and there we go.

Bitch (:

Yeah, yeah, so, I don't know, fuck you, fuck you Nazi magicians. I said fuck Nazi magicians, I think is just the theme for this. So that's kinda it, and yeah, so, Fool's Society, not cool.

Bitch (:

poet. Alright, so back to the end of our episode and we come back and our poor Gollum is just left there.

Jerk (:

Yeah, so are everybody all the Nazis are dead. Our poor Gollum has been deactivated still. Aaron and Sam and Dean are there and.

Anyways, and Aaron basically is sharing with them. He's like, you know, I now I know the fool are still out there. So I unrolls the scroll, writes his name, and he said, he knows his grandfather left him something important that only he can do. And he puts it in the golem's mouth to reactivate it. Says, looks like I'm the Judah initiative now.

Bitch (:

And I would like this spinoff, a boy and his golem. He's so cute. Aaron's attractive. I would watch it.

Jerk (:

That would be good. That would be a good one.

Yeah. So now I call now I call the men of letters bunker. I call HQ. I'm like, all right, they're back in HQ. So Sam and Dean go back to headquarters and Sam is still cataloging stuff from the tool and from.

Bitch (:

You see, I'm just making a brand new card for the card catalog for the new thing that they got. That's a... You don't understand the library nerd of this. Alright, so there's this big card catalog that has all these things and he has a new book. And he's brought a new book in, he's cataloging it. It is hot librarian nerd shit. I don't know if he's doing like a mark tag, like where he's coming up with his syntax or his taxonomy for like... Okay, go on. Let's go. I'm gonna go to my happy place now.

Jerk (:

Dean asks Sam if Dean's asking Sam if he's a man of letters now and And they I'm imporing them drinks while Frankie Lane's on the sunny side of the street plays

Bitch (:

And I answer the two of them drinking. And yes, there are minimum letters now, but you can still use a fucking coaster on that table. Please put a coaster on that table. Oh my God, you're leaving a ring spot on that. And I will never get that out. Did you see this table? Okay, I guess that's the conclusion of Liz Love Tables. Do you have any notes for us on the popular actors of this show?

Jerk (:

I do. So here we go. I'll start off with our Rabbi Isaac Bass is played by Hal Linden, most famously known as Barney Miller. He was Captain Barney Miller from 1974 through 1982. So well known, a long running actor into American television. He's also been on

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Yeah, that's fucking Bernie Miller!

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icon.

Jerk (:

Yeah, he's also been on television shows, episodes, like, you know, a single episodes of shows like Car 59. Where are you? The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Golden Girls, The Nanny, Gilmore Girls, Mindy Project and Grey's Anatomy. And it did a big spread on purpose to show eras and styles and stuff. So he was also Andrew in The Love Boat, the TV movie in 1976 and Mr. Greenwald in the 2023 movie You People.

Once again, big spread for his acting career. Aaron Bass was played by Adam Rose, which it looks like we'll see him again. And he has been in episodes of shows like The Sopranos, Malcolm in the Middle, Bones, My Name is Earl, Weeds, I Zombie, Santa Clarita Diet, and Modern Family.

He also was make out Dave in the George Clooney movie up in the air and was in a reoccurring character named Max in the Veronica Mars series. Our Golem was played by John DeSantis who we have seen before and might see one more time in Supernatural not as Golem obviously he was Moloch the Scarecrow and now the Golem and then we'll see him again.

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Whaaaaa-

Jerk (:

But in he's got a some a season some stunt work, but honestly, most of his stuff is acting. He was Ragnar in the 13th Warrior. He was Lurch in the 90s series, The New Adams Family. He was Juggernaut in 13 Ghosts. He's. Episodes of shows like Smallville, Once Upon a Time, Hell on Wheels, X-Files, Supergirl and Arrow.

a reoccurring character named Guster in Van Helsing, the bald man, which was a major character in series of unfortunate events, which I loved. And he in the new Peter Pan and Wendy Disney film, he is Bill.

Eckhart was the name of our commandant or commander that was played by Bernard Forscher. And he is he was a Stubbenführer Mueller in Fury in a few episodes of Grimm. Torvald was our blonde Nazi. I was played by Oliver Rice. He's been in episodes of shows like Once Upon a Time, Magicians, Legends of Tomorrow. Oddly enough, also as a Nazi.

The Flash. He was in Chilling Adventures of Sabrina a couple of times, Nancy Drew a couple of times and Riverdale a few times as well. He was Simon in the movie, the Netflix, the Always Me, Always Be My Maybe, and is a reoccurring character in the series Chesapeake Shores.

Bitch (:

He's very blonde.

Jerk (:

There we go.

Bitch (:

So what do you think?

Jerk (:

I actually really enjoyed it because I thought it was kind of interesting having like the side story tie in because not only are we tying in the men of letters to other current events, arguably, I mean, I know it all ties back to World War II, but this is happening in the now. And then you've additionally got a new creature in the golem and how they handle that.

And I think that they had a little bit of a dilemma about it. And it's kind of odd that they were willing to leave it living. Not not sit. They shouldn't have. We like our golem, but that they were willing to leave it living or whatever, activated or whatever, because Aaron took control of it. And then that they're kind of settling into this men of letters life.

Bitch (:

Yeah, I mean, it's a thing of representing a new era. And now we're finding it to see, you know, you could really tell this is my happy place and exactly where I wanna live. Like, it's just, can I just have a bunker? Are we having a round to the bus? Like, you know there's me more. Like, you just like getting your first taste of the bunker. And yeah, I mean, can I live in a place filled with a supernatural mother load? Yes, please.

Jerk (:

Yes

Bitch (:

Anyways, all right, yeah, and so things we learned today, golems are cool. Nazi magicians are boring.

Anything else? Alright. Yeah, alright, so I guess we'll see you next time. Cheers, jerk!

Jerk (:

Yeah. I think that's it. That covers a lot of it.

Jerk (:

Cheers, bitch.

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