Shownotes
We just couldn't let The Just Podcast end without addressing some of the heavier topics consuming our nation and world right now. We spent some time in REAL talk, RAW emotions, and what steps we can take forward towards progress.
Episode Summary:
- 0:00 - Intro
- 0:48 - Episode start
- 1:38 - Jes frames up the episode
- 3:42 - Rob asks why are we here?
- 4.26 - Talking honestly, openly, and vulnerably
- 7:00 - Rob is struggling but wants to lean in
- 8:12 - Jes remembers talking to her son about Trayvon Martin
- 10:05 - Mourning vs. shock or anger
- 13:11 - Naming the difference between reactions from Black folks and white folks
- 13:32 - The one place that white people never go - "that could be me"
- 14:11 - Ahmaud Arbery
- 14:57 - Jes explains the aspect of trauma
- 17:00 - Jes is reassessing her role in the resistance
- 17:18 - Rob says everyone should ask “what is my role?”
- 17:54 - Jes explains more about her assessment
- 19:38 - Jes will build wealth for herself and her community
- 20:02 - Wealth is power
- 20:21 - When Black communities move towards power, white supremacy brings them down
- 21:47 - White folks can't stand the power structures to shift
- 22:17 - If Black folks had power, people would think twice about killing them
- 23:38 - The system of race was an economic play
- 24:27 - Why was race created in the first place?
- 25:56 - Rob talks about learning about NC Mutual
- 26:51 - You can’t stop at the diagnosis
- 28:11 - If Blackness is a social construct, then so is whiteness
- 28:59 - When is the white community going to examine their own identity or move beyond it?
- 29:44 - Rob admits he would rather examine Blackness than look at his own whiteness
- 31:25 - White people need to become students of how whiteness works
- 33:22 - Will Rob do the work to study his own legacy and how he got here?
- 34:45 - White people don't feel shared responsibility for the harm they cause
- 35:16 - White people bring an individual lens - they don't see systemic issues
- 36:11 - We're at a different place than when we started this podcast
- 37:02 - We have to take a personal and spiritual accounting
- 37:37 - Naming white supremacy
- 39:20 - Rob describes being blind to the injustices of privilege
- 40:07 - Rob commits to learning how his social mobility story interacts with the larger picture
- 40:49 - You gotta do the work
- 41:03 - There are more resources available now than 3 weeks ago
- 41:52 - We’re going to keep this conversation going
- 43:00 - Episode end
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