Leading the Youth Sports Revolution: Peter Frintzilas, CEO of TeamSnap - Sports Business Conversations

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Leading the Youth Sports Revolution: Peter Frintzilas, CEO of TeamSnap

Episode 43 • 26th March 2024 • Sports Business Conversations • ADC Partners

00:00

Dave Almy

So, Peter, I think the best place to get started is to talk about your own experience as a young athlete, right? And now your experience also as a dad of three boys who are just starting to get rolling in sports. So tell me a little bit about your sports playing experience and how is that both same and different from what you're beginning to experience with your own kids?

00:23

Peter Frintzilas

Look, some of my earliest memories are when I could pick up a ball, a glove, a hockey stick, a football. I played numerous.

00:31

Dave Almy

You were not in Southern California if you're picking up the hockey stick, you were in cold.

00:35

Peter Frintzilas

Well, I was in Northeast. Yeah, I grew up on Long island suburbs way out of New York City, farm country of Long Island. So we hit. There was no shortage of playing fields at that point. But look, I played ball, you know, baseball and football all the way through varsity high school, and at that point realized it was my calling to try to hang up the cleats, hang up the glove and go focus on my education. Still remain very active intramurals and just a very big fan of the game.

01:03

Dave Almy

Did you aspire to play college sports? Was that something that was on your mind or is it just sort of happenstantial at that point?

01:09

Peter Frintzilas

I did not. I mean, there was a realization on my end. I mean, I, you know, I was a starting varsity athlete on, you know, football and baseball team, football team would go on to win the Long island championship. But I think there's a realization of my playing days are going to come to an end at that point. And, you know, it was. I was ready. I was ready. You know, I do think the one thing that's a consistent thread is just there's a lot when you're playing through high school, man, especially when you're playing multiple sports, multiple teams. The workouts, like there is that burnout. And, you know, not to date myself, but this was over 20 years ago. Like the discussion around mental health, that.

01:42

Dave Almy

Wasn'T even a topic wearing leather helmets back then, for goodness sakes.

01:47

Peter Frintzilas

100%, right? And, you know, you layer all that in and so from there, you know, continue to be a very big fan of the game regardless of the sport. And now I'm super excited to get my kids involved in it. I mean, my boys are six, four and one and a half. They're already on skates, they're already playing baseball, they're on skis, they're playing tennis. I mean, you know, and they love it, right? And I can see both my wife and I are, you know, were former athletes, we Love competition. We see the importance of sport for, you know, children and not just the opportunities that opens up, but I'd say all the soft skills, right.

02:21

Peter Frintzilas

The leadership, the collaboration, the hard work, the discipline, a lot of what has kind of shaped me as a leader and many of the values that I want to instill in my boys.

02:30

Dave Almy

It is different now though, than when you. I honestly got started playing sports a little. I got a little bit more gray hair than you do. So my playing background extends way back into the using woolly mammoth tusks for my ice skates type stuff. But it is a different environment for our kids now than it was for us. It's much more organized, so much more professionalized youth sports market now than when were kids.

02:55

Peter Frintzilas

Yeah, I mean, look, when I was growing up, I remember you played in house, right? Within your school district to a certain age. Then if you're good enough, you went onto a travel team and then you played JV and varsity. Like there. There wasn't a lot that was it. I grew up. Was there the concept of like a club team? I mean, there was, you know, one on Long island, right. It was few and far between. And I think you said professionalization. I'd also layer in the specialization of sport today. Look, I have a six year old, right? I live in Southern Connecticut, like the mecca of competitive sport. I'm the CEO of one of the largest sports tech companies.

03:29

Peter Frintzilas

And I still can't figure out where to like put my son and what the right program is and how do you get into the right, you know, structure and yes, professionalize and organized. But with that, the increased chaos and fragmentation that has occurred, that's called the.

03:45

Dave Almy

Perfect segue right there. Because you're the CEO of Team Snap and you've got extensive technology and financial background, right? That's sort of where your origin story comes from in your work because you worked for those industries for years. But how did Team Snap first get on your radar?

04:03

Peter Frintzilas

Yeah, so look, I've been a software operator through and through. Coming up on maybe 23 years. I did do a short stint at a private equity firm as an executive partner, but that was there with a lens on where do we go execute on a platform strategy that ultimately I'd have the opportunity to go run. Right? And so I found that as a great opportunity to align within an investment firm that really aligned with a lot of the values and focus that I had in vertical software. Where I first came across Teamsnap, ironically, was the company I was at prior to joining the investment firm which is called Intralinks. One of the gentlemen that worked for me at that point went off to start his own sports tech company called Play Easy with more focused in the sports tourism space.

04:48

Peter Frintzilas

So think about facilities and destination marketing offices of cities trying to attract youth sporting events. Right. And in that gave me a front row seat which I'm sure we're going to get into on just how massive youth sports is as an industry and how massive sports tech can be and how frankly immature and early innings sports tech is. And so when I joined Watt Capital, which is that growth firm I'm referring to, you know, we started doing a lot of research in sports tech because I recognize, we all recognize that there's a multifaceted ecosystem across a number of different stakeholders that's just, you know, screaming for a single platform to help go.

05:24

Dave Almy

Connect that it is frighteningly fragmented. When you first started looking at it, was that a concern for you? Did you see that immediately as the opportunity?

05:35

Peter Frintzilas

tion of Team Snap in April of: 2021

06:14

Peter Frintzilas

And at that point I've had the good fortune to step in as CEO and we've gone through an accelerated phase of growth. We more than doubled the size of the company, both in revenue and in headcount in less than two and a half years. And we're one of the leading category leaders and assets in the space.

06:30

Dave Almy

Was that a particularly. The word I want to use is nerve wracking moment. Right. When you go from private equity, right, you're looking at things on the outside, you're building the plan and you kind of push the plan off and give the operators a chance to operate against that plan and everything like that. Now you're stepping into the role of CEO. That's a different animal altogether.

06:49

Peter Frintzilas

And let's not forget the global pandemic that was happening in parallel. Right.

06:53

Dave Almy

Super helpful.

06:54

Peter Frintzilas

I left a $400 million software business with offices in 30 different countries, was on airplanes all the time and quarter. My leadership was, you know, the three foot discussion, right. Sitting across the table from somebody, getting to know them, building that level of trust and then you go hop on a zoom call. It doesn't matter if somebody's in Japan and Australia, in Europe. Having the opportunity to meet face to face on a regular basis was core to how I learned to be a professional, learn to be a leader. So now it wasn't just stepping in, which was also my first CEO role, but I'm doing so in a fully virtual environment. And you know, it took a lot longer, I would say, to get to know everybody than I anticipated. Right. Because five person lunch turned into multiple 30 minute Zoom calls and that's.

07:39

Peter Frintzilas

That extends things.

07:41

Dave Almy

Does that experience still impact you today? Like the skills you developed during that transitioning from face to face, the three foot meeting, to use your words. Do you, are there skills that you developed in that place that you're applying today?

07:55

Peter Frintzilas

100%, yeah. 100%. And you know, look, as we get much more into I think a normalized hybrid model, I've now, I think gone through, you know, both great opportunities and how do you start to bring those together, right. And now trying to accelerate the trust building, the relationship building with new leaders, new employees that are coming on, I can do that, whether distributed, virtual or in person environment. But it's also the operating cadence, like how do we run the business on a day to day basis. Taking the best of what was an in person model and a virtual model and bringing those together, I think has really helped us create the foundation and the operating rhythm of this company.

08:37

Dave Almy

For people who might be less familiar with Team Snap as a whole, can you give the 30,000 foot view and the premise behind it, like the challenges that Team Snap solves for the youth sports market. I want to follow that up by talking about the size of the youth.

08:53

Peter Frintzilas

Sports market because it's surprising. 12, 13 years ago, you know, the company was starting a very simple premise. How do you avoid showing up at the wrong field at the wrong. I'm serious. Right. And it caught like wildfire. It was a huge younger generation of parents are coming up. App Store was lighting up, mobile devices were everywhere. And how do you start to take the phone chain and digitize that down to the team and allow the coach to really be able to communicate with that team? Since then we've greatly expanded the portfolio, focused more on as much as on the team, the coach, the family, as we are on the business aspect of clubs and leagues and the operating software they need to run their businesses. And we've become the number one sports management platform through that journey.

09:38

Peter Frintzilas

And you know, we've got over 25 million users, we've got over 2 million users on platform on a daily basis. And very simple. We provide easy to use tools for communication, for scheduling, payment collection, registration and this connection with brands and commerce partners, which I know we'll get into. And we've talked about the chaos of you sports, right? Our goal is to just help simplify that with building incredible products, technology products that bring together clubs, leagues, event organizers, coaches, parents, players and brands all in one spot.

10:09

Dave Almy

And I laugh at the beginning of your response because as a sports, youth sports parent, we've all been at the field going oh crap, like not knowing. And you start the text message. So it's good to know that somebody that is not a solo experience that I've had by any stretch of the imagination. And it's funny too, like I was chosen, chatting with someone yesterday mentioning that were going to have this interview and she responded with, I am always so annoyed when a program doesn't use Team Snap. I mean if, I don't know, like there's no bigger endorsement than that, right? I mean, but to organize the chaos. And I think that speaks to the scale of what we're talking about here. I think most people experience youth sports along the ways that were just talking about.

10:55

Dave Almy

All right, show up at the field on time, make sure your kid's got the orange slices and I'll bring, make sure he has both cleats or she's got the shin guards and all that kind stuff. But my God, we're talking about a pretty remarkable industry now. And it feels a little weird to talk about youth sports in terms of an industry, but that's really what it's become.

11:13

Peter Frintzilas

billion globally by: 2030

12:09

Peter Frintzilas

And so we're talking about the industrial complex of youth sports is for real.

12:12

Dave Almy

And I also think about, you were talking about the people involved and the people who are connected to it without even actually playing the volunteers and pieces. I don't think I can think of anything that's more content driven than youth sports. When you think about what people are putting out into their own feeds and things like that, it's pictures of the kids, it's videos of them playing. They're going. The connectivity to that, when you get right down to it, you're probably talking about everybody in the country connected by at least two degrees of separation is that's the opportunity here, isn't it? As you looked at Team Snap and where it was going and to industrialize that part of it, that had to be an appeal to you both from your own historical experience as a both practitioner, but also as a technology guy.

12:59

Dave Almy

That's where the opportunity had to really scratch you.

13:02

Peter Frintzilas

Yeah. And it's been in two phases, right. We go back to kind of the core of the investment thesis and why Team Snap, like the consumer base, that parent base of users, the trust of the brand we knew was the cornerstone to go build off of. And so for the last two and a half years we've been investing heavily in our Team Snap for business or a back office SaaS based system for small and medium sized businesses. Much more of a traditional B2B software offering. And then in December we made the acquisition of a company called Mojo Sports which is now focused on the engagement and the content of those families. Right. To date Team Snap has been a heavy kind of utility type of application where what's the schedule, where's the field, how do we communicate? Those are all utility features and functions.

13:50

Peter Frintzilas

And we recognize that there's a massive appetite with a growing focus around media and content to help those families save their memories and to engage with each other. And so Mojo Sports was founded by two founders about three years ago. Ben Sherwood, who is a longtime Disney executive, ran Disney Television, ran ABC Television, and Reed Schaffner, who's one of the best consumer oriented technologists I've ever come across. And they went out, they established some incredible partnerships with the mls, the NBA, MLB and the list goes on, and created training content, highly produced training content to help coaches, and then started getting to much more of the in game streaming and memory creation. Right. How do you help families capture those moments, whether they're at the game, after the game?

14:35

Peter Frintzilas

And how do you help the kids, through their own player profiles, be able to share that out? And we're really focused on kind of that Disney family of sport, using Ben's term. Right. That 4 to 14 year old where it's the long tail of participation. It's not the ultra elite competitive yet, but you know, we want to really make the experience for families as world class as it can be.

14:55

Dave Almy

Can you expand on the Mojo acquisition a little bit? Because to your point, TeamSnap was kind of utility based, right. You know, get people to the right field, make sure the contact information is correct, here's the roster, those kinds of pieces, very structured, organizational. Mojo comes over as more of a content play. Is the integration between the two helped by the fact that they're so different, they come at the youth sports market from such different plays, or does that create some unique challenges given their own sort of specialty within the discipline?

15:29

Peter Frintzilas

I think it's both, right? I think the latter. Let's not ignore. Anytime you integrate two technology platforms, right, it's not going to flip a switch and all of a sudden everything works together. Piece of cake, right? But that's where I think the magic, the discipline to the diligence process really comes through. Right. And we started meeting with the MoJo team June of last year and we did a lot of collaborative pre work to ensure that there was a natural path to bring these technologies together. More importantly, there was a natural path to bring the teams together. Because at the core of it, at the base of it, in my mind, that's where success and failure starts and stops on the front end of it. You know, the opportunity it provides is significant.

16:09

Peter Frintzilas

So kind of going back to the mapping of the market and what do our families, what do our teams need? We did that. Right. Six months of research. You create kind of the big spider gram and you say, look, team snaps on this half.

16:20

Dave Almy

Yeah.

16:20

Peter Frintzilas

And there's one or two players that are on this half and we either going to go build into it over the course of the next few years or is there a way to help accelerate and you know, that's where kind of luck comes into play a little bit. Through some mutual relationships, Ben and I got to know each other and he reached out in June and we moved quickly because we saw the, I think both sides saw the opportunity of how do we bring those together. And you know, we're excited. The integration to Date, knock on wood, is going smooth and we're moving fast.

16:47

Dave Almy

And it sort of takes Team Snap out of that utility world, builds it out further into the broader market itself. Which has to appeal to the brands that you work with. Right. I think a lot of brands are fascinated by the opportunity of youth sports. Right. Active, healthy parents making those decisions and things like that, but they're terrified by the fragmentation of it. Like how do we create partnerships all over the country that are, you know, 100 people here and 1,000 people there kind of thing. Can you talk about brand integration into teamsnap? How is that going and where it goes from here? Because it's a potentially another part of this vast market that we're talking about and it's significant.

17:29

Peter Frintzilas

Right, so. So we have a saying across the company that every weekend across this country is super bowl weekend for you sports. There is no other important moment, you know what I mean? And yeah. And whether that game is on the weekend or through the week, you ask parents what's the best part of their week. Maybe it's not watching a 4 hour T ball game, but for the most part it's sitting on the field, sitting on the sideline, watching their kids play. That is the emotional, most emotional point or one of the and special point of their week. And brands want to be able to align to that. Right. It's important that we keep the safety of the user experience, the safety of the family with the right brand, the right experience.

18:06

Peter Frintzilas

And so in fall of 22, we acquired one other company along this journey, a company called Leagueside, which built a technology platform to help facilitate the physical sponsorship of youth sporting teams within the community. So think about logos on jerseys, banners in the outfield, et cetera, at a hyper targeted community level with national scale and coordination. So you can begin to show the attribution and you know, the ROI back to the brands which they want to see, whether it's foot traffic or eyeballs, we marry that up with our digital advertising, which is available across our app that over 2 million parents see on a daily basis. And we have created the one and only to date unique conduit for brands to reach youth sporting families at that national scale, but with a hyper targeted focus on the community.

18:56

Dave Almy

Efficiently.

18:57

Peter Frintzilas

Yeah, efficiently. Right. And in a way in which you can quantify and show the results. And so we've got huge blue chip national brands, the doordashes, the Verizon's, the Apples, the Hilton's, the Marriotts of the world, all that want to bring a message of local community to their brand and align it with you sports. And we've seen that side of our business growing at 45% plus year over year. And we believe that, you know, with the right continued relationships and brand experiences, that's going to continue to increase. And we think it's beneficial on both sides.

19:29

Dave Almy

Did the brands pick up on the opportunity relatively quickly or was it something that your teams had to sell that into them to get them to say, like, look, if you're on a rage youth sports and you need to reach youth sports, this is the way to do it. Did they get that off the right out of the gate?

19:45

Peter Frintzilas

Yeah, I think it's a little bit of both timing and a little bit of execution. Right. The level of investment going into sports generally over the last five years, as we all know, is accelerating. That's starting at a professional level. It's going down to collegians, coming down to high school and youth. And there are a limited number of professional sports teams, collegiate sports teams and sponsorships that brands can put money against. And as the demand is increased, the price has increased. And so the ability to come down market and further reach into a community through youth sports is one that I know through all of our brand partners that everyone has always considered, but then question like the level of infrastructure and people that would be needed to go do that.

20:25

Peter Frintzilas

And so when we're able to go in and tell our story and talk about the size of the scale of the platform, it's not much of a sell as it is education. And then it's a little bit of prove it. Right? Because okay, like, how are you guys really pulling this off? And so I think it's a bit of the execution and the strategy aligning at the right time with timing, which some of that, you know, isn't just luck. Like, we've done a lot of research on ensuring, like we could have gone and invested in 50 different opportunities, but we saw this coming down the pipe because of the buying power that our 2 million plus daily active users bring with it.

20:58

Dave Almy

You mean those big brands weren't just willing to take your word for it and trust you on it? They really usually are so comfortable just shelling out to dollars and say, like, hey, you know, no problem.

21:07

Peter Frintzilas

Yeah. Well, then two years ago we run into a buzzsaw, right, relative to market conditions and money being pulled out of advertising and everything else. And you know, we had a pivot and at that point we recognized that we had to diversify our digital offering and went out, inquired leagueside in order to react to where the market was going. And we saw sponsorship being a heavy driver there.

21:26

Dave Almy

Can you talk about that moment of that pivot? I mean, Covid was. I mean, it's impacted, obviously, every business, but your key customer, families playing youth sports literally stopped in its tracks. There was, there was nothing being played. Did you look at that? And it's like, okay, here's the opportunity we got to change? Or was it something that was already in the process of you saying, this is a great brand, we're going to expand on it. Where do we go from here?

21:59

Peter Frintzilas

of Team Snap in the summer of: 2020

22:06

Dave Almy

COVID Man, you were in the thick of it.

22:08

Peter Frintzilas

Thick of it, right? And so through that fall, it was a real discussion of how long is this going to last and how quickly are the kids going to get back on the fields and the courts, on the rinks, And a lot of research, right? Market economist research, etc. And we felt good as we started to get into that late winter, early spring of 21, that whether it was six, 12 or 18 months out, one, we believe we're picking up the leading platform in the space. Two, there was a clear resurgence on the horizon that youth sports was not only going to come back, but it was going to come back with force. Because I think the. The importance of youth sports was just compounded and validated to every single family across the world.

22:56

Dave Almy

And getting back to it felt normal, right?

22:59

Peter Frintzilas

That was normalcy. And so, you know, the team quickly, this was before I even stepped in. I mean, we quickly innovated. We came up with our health check, where parents were able to answer 8, 10 quick questions relative to the jurisdiction they're in. You know, green pass, ready to go. They show up the field, they're ready to go. And this was before the families were even allowed back in the gyms. And so we saw that opportunity and we felt confident about it again, doing the work, doing the homework, doing the research, doing the preparation in order to be there.

23:26

Dave Almy

One of the biggest challenges, and this is somewhat related to Covid, because as people sort of slowly came back to youth sports, but there's also widely discussed drop in participation that comes right. The Aspen Institute's all over this, and they've got a number of reasons for the decline. Expanded technology, obesity, high cost and something like that, things like that. What's Team Snap's role here? Obviously, because if you keep people playing, obviously, it has long term economic benefit for the platform. But are there things that you feel like the company can do to help staunch that drop off and what might some of those things be?

24:07

Peter Frintzilas

Yeah, well, I think one of the downsides of COVID was that there was an acceleration of the consolidation of sports organizations, right? Whether it was small for profit clubs and leagues that just couldn't go 12 months without having a incoming cash flow, or it was volunteer organizations that couldn't recruit, that really couldn't get back off the ground. And with that, you've seen the consolidation of the programming of sport, the clubs and leagues that are providing that, and in turn the financial burden and barrier to entry is only going up. And so, you know, the company has always been very mission driven around the importance of youth sports to the youth athletes families or the youth athletes upbringing. And so when I joined, you know, I believe it's our responsibility, right?

24:53

Peter Frintzilas

million to over: 1300

25:31

Peter Frintzilas

And then the other side of it and one of the underlying reasons to go acquire Mojo was like, for all of us that played sport, that experience comes down to one common denominator and that's the coach, right? The coach is kind of the dictator of how great or how, you know, limited the experience that kid is going to have. And that kind of pulls through, right? Because if you don't have good coaches, nobody wants to join the program. If a program can't recruit coaches, there aren't enough volunteers out there. And so with Mojo, we believe we have a turnkey kind of volunteer in a box. Hey, you've never coached basketball before. Here's 12 weeks of drills of practices. You're a dad that's only coached sons. Well, guess What? Coaching an 8 year old girls soccer team is not the same.

26:16

Peter Frintzilas

How do you help them understand that? To make the experience better. And then lastly, look, there's a policy aspect of this, right? So I sit on the board and the executive committee of the Plays Coalition which is about 3,500 sports organizations and service providers like myself across the US that are really focused on unlocking funding at a state and federal level. And how do we help sports organizations navigate through the earmark process or ensure that as bills are coming up, that we're very focused on the funding that needs to go into youth sports?

26:51

Dave Almy

Overall, Team Snap has such a unique position in the American family and internationally. As the company obviously grows in that you are in people's pockets and you're a hub part of their daily lives. Right. I mean, it's. I go back to the comment I made earlier about my friend saying I'm really irritated when people don't use teamsnap. What is the future? Given that position and how integral you are, what does that future look like for Team Snap? Right. How do you leverage that position when you have access to so much interaction and information?

27:28

Peter Frintzilas

Yeah, look, I think both with the league side and MoJo acquisition, first and foremost, we're going to continue to listen to the market, right? And our market's really made up of those families and coaches, those sports organizations and the brands that want to reach them. And so how do we continue to bring technology experience, service that connects the three of those and that makes the programming and the experience of youth sports better and more wholesome for all that are involved? We'll focus on the user experience and creating features and functions and value that surprise and delight our parents and our players and our fans. We're going to focus on the professionalization of kind of the business aspect of our software and our offerings. Kind of the product is the services. Services the product.

28:13

Peter Frintzilas

Like we're investing in our customer support and service as much as we are in our technology development. Because a volunteer who is working at 11 o' clock at night to get the rosters uploaded, they shouldn't need to be, you know, whiz bang, software engineer. And if they can't get figured out because maybe we should fell short on the product design, there's got to be somebody to be able to pick up the phone, right? You got to be able to help out those volunteers. And so, you know, we're investing heavily on the data side of our platform. As you mentioned, we are sitting on a significant amount of activity. A family, a player, profile, data. And when I say we're investing in that, the privacy and the security of it is absolutely critical.

28:50

Peter Frintzilas

Especially with the evolving, continued the evolution of the regulatory landscape state by state, we got to be very attuned to that. And there is nothing more important that we're sitting on right now than the data of those families. And our team knows that comes from me, top down.

29:04

Dave Almy

And I'm assuming that the parents. That's something that they're paying a lot of attention to. There's so much information out there and so much concern about privacy and security with data and kids and things like that. It has to be top of mind in just about every conversation you're having.

29:17

Peter Frintzilas

Every conversation. Every conversation. And look, we want to be at the forefront of helping to educate parents. Right. About what they should be concerned about. Because to your point, it is fragmented. You've got hundreds of different providers that are coming out this youth sports tech space. And, you know, parents need to educate themselves as much as we're going to stay top of mind and. Or at the forefront of educating ourselves on what the privacy, security, and regulatory controls that we need to comply to are.

29:42

Dave Almy

Pete Francillis, he's the CEO of Team Snap. I want to thank you for joining us today, but before I let you go, I'm going to put you, Pete Francillis, in the Lightning Round.

29:52

Peter Frintzilas

Oh, boy. Here we go.

29:54

Dave Almy

That is the appropriate reaction because this is scary stuff. All right, so here we go. Are you ready?

30:02

Peter Frintzilas

Yep. Let's do it, David.

30:03

Dave Almy

Let's do this thing. Okay. You're the father of three boys. What sport are you hoping they don't try? I'm telling you, it's. The Lightning Round was harder than you thought it was going to be. Yeah.

30:16

Peter Frintzilas

Look, the reason for it is I'm open to them trying anything. Like, I played so many silly sports growing up. Okay, all right.

30:24

Dave Almy

You're open to everything.

30:25

Peter Frintzilas

My. My oldest right now is showing a. A big likeness affinity for ice hockey. And so, like 5am practices, I'm starting to dread as we're starting to get to the decision point, are we going to do this or not? But, you know, hey, you're signing up for it, right?

30:41

Dave Almy

I am a former ice hockey dad. I'm gonna. I know. I'm not gonna say another thing.

30:46

Peter Frintzilas

All right, ready.

30:48

Dave Almy

Best mince pronunciation of your last name?

30:52

Peter Frintzilas

Fran Jiggas.

30:53

Dave Almy

Okay, that actually is really.

30:55

Peter Frintzilas

Somebody said that to me once in the beginning of me and I'm like, did you even read the spelling? Like, it's not even close.

31:00

Dave Almy

Frangella Mackis. Okay, we're gonna. You're just winging it. All right. You did undergraduate work at Syracuse University.

31:07

Peter Frintzilas

Yes.

31:07

Dave Almy

Who is the greatest Syracuse athlete of all time? And there's only one correct answer.

31:12

Peter Frintzilas

Carmelo Anthony. That's not The Jim Brown. Jim Brown.

31:15

Dave Almy

All right, that's the correct answer.

31:16

Peter Frintzilas

Come on. I was there in 03 when we won the national championship.

31:20

Dave Almy

Okay.

31:20

Peter Frintzilas

The greatest athlete, relative to my experience. Carmelo.

31:25

Dave Almy

I will allow for that.

31:26

Peter Frintzilas

I had you there. You almost done? Oh, my God.

31:30

Dave Almy

Who is this guy? I can't believe. All right, your preferred fast food stop when you're traveling to a youth sports event. And what's your go to order?

31:40

Peter Frintzilas

I mean, it's got to be Shake Shack.

31:42

Dave Almy

Yeah.

31:43

Peter Frintzilas

Double cheese and bacon. I mean, that's. That's always a go to.

31:45

Dave Almy

Yeah, that's what I want to hear. It's the in and out burger. Last one. You have an IMDb listing for your role in An American in Hollywood where you played studio executive.

31:57

Peter Frintzilas

Yeah.

31:58

Dave Almy

What was your best line?

32:01

Peter Frintzilas

Well, funny enough, I was just supposed to be there as, like, the secondary guy that was in the suit. And then my buddy couldn't get his lines right. But my lines were limited in that. Here's your contract. Sign it or no deal.

32:16

Dave Almy

Your buddy couldn't get that line right?

32:18

Peter Frintzilas

No. He kept fumbling, man. He kept fumbling.

32:22

Dave Almy

Pete princess, man. Thanks for the time. Appreciate it.

32:25

Peter Frintzilas

Likewise, Dave. Thanks for having me. This was great.